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A26147
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A treatise of the true and ancient jurisdiction of the House of Peers by Sir Robert Atkyns ...
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Atkyns, Robert, Sir, 1621-1709.
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Wing A4144; ESTC R31568
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non_fw-la fuit_fw-la in_o the_o elder_a time_n and_o so_o say_v selden_n in_o his_o title_n of_o honour_n page_n 604._o nec_fw-la dum_fw-la haereditaria_fw-la fuit_fw-la dignitas_fw-la initio_fw-la dignitas_fw-la temporaria_fw-la post_v aquavitae_fw-la aequalis_fw-la but_o in_o that_o age_n title_n of_o honour_n and_o place_n be_v no_o more_o hereditary_a than_o virtue_n and_o true_a worth_n be_v which_o be_v not_o ex_fw-la traduce_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o william_n the_o conqueror_n comites_fw-la caeperunt_fw-la esse_fw-la feodales_n &_o hereditarii_fw-la dux_n nomen_fw-la officii_fw-la non_fw-la honoris_fw-la say_v cambden_n page_n 134_o 135._o oneris_fw-la non_fw-la honoris_fw-la it_o be_v no_o title_n of_o honour_n till_o king_n edward_n the_o three_o make_v his_o son_n edward_n the_o black-prince_n duke_n of_o cornwall_n and_o king_n richard_n the_o second_o that_o prince_n son_n make_v robert_n de_fw-fr vere_n the_o first_o marquis_n that_o be_v of_o dublin_n and_o king_n henry_n the_o six_o make_v the_o first_o viscount_n which_o still_o be_v also_o a_o name_n officiary_n selden_n title_n etc._n etc._n page_n 621._o the_o king_n thane_n be_v he_o that_o hold_v of_o the_o king_n in_o chief_a by_o knight_n service_n he_o be_v of_o the_o same_o kind_n with_o they_o who_o after_o the_o come_n of_o the_o norman_n be_v honorary_a of_o parliamentary_a baron_n the_o name_n of_o vavasor_n say_v seld._n ib._n 625._o be_v feodal_n only_o and_o not_o at_o all_o honorary_a in_o doomsday_n say_v he_o it_o sometime_o occur_v as_o a_o synonomy_n with_o liberi_fw-la homines_fw-la regis_fw-la these_o tenant_n de_fw-fr rege_fw-la in_o capite_fw-la be_v the_o person_n that_o have_v right_o to_o sit_v in_o parliament_n and_o in_o the_o supreme_a judicature_n and_o council_n during_o the_o time_n of_o the_o first_o six_o or_o seven_o of_o the_o king_n next_o after_o the_o come_n of_o the_o selden_n title_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 705._o to_o the_o magnum_fw-la concilium_fw-la 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henricus_fw-la tertius_fw-la say_v he_o in_o his_o britannia_n pag._n 137._o exit_fw-la tantâ_fw-la multitudine_fw-la speak_v of_o the_o parliament_n in_o those_o time_n quae_fw-la seditiosa_fw-la &_o turbulenta_fw-la fuit_fw-la optimos_fw-la quosque_fw-la