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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A35057	The judgment of M. Cartwright and M. Baxter concerning separation and the ceremonies	Cartwright, Thomas, 1634-1689.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691.	1673 (1673)	Wing C701; ESTC R21747	13,713	32

foundation CHRIST whereupon it is necessary that by faith the Assemblies be laid which groweth unto the Lords building without the which it cannot be his Church which thing being whatsoever is wanting of that which is commanded or remaining of that which is forbidden is not able to put that Assembly which by faith is laid upon Christ from the right and title of being the Church of Christ for Faith can admit no such thing which giveth an utter overthrow and turning upside down of the truth By this title of the Faithful the Apostle in his Epistles noteth out the Churches of God it being all one with him to say To the Faithful or To the Saints as To the Church of such a place Whatsoever wanteth unto this or is more than enough that wanteth or aboundeth to the disgrace or uncomelyness or to the hazard of continuance and not to the present overthrow of the Church Hereupon the people of Israel which neglected for the space of forty years the holy Sacrament of Circumcision and the Passeover also as it seemeth one onely time excepted ceased not therefore to be the Churches of God and to have the Sanctuary among them And in this respect the Dutch Assemblies whereof the greatest part in High Germany which beside the main of Discipline which is common to our Churches are groslly deceived in the matter of the Supper are notwithstanding holden in the Roul of the Churches of God In this respect also certain Assemblies of our Profession which having the use of the Discipline permitted unto them are not suffered to have the use of the Lords Supper are not therefore when the Lords Churches are mustered and their names written and enrouled up cast out as unfit to be in any accompt of the Lords hosts Without any part of that Order or Discipline which the Lord hath appointed I grant there can be no Church of Christ or that without some part of it there can be no faith in Jesus Christ It is a part of the Discipline of our Saviour Christ that there should be certain which should be chosen out of the rest to preach the Gospel by preaching whereof the Churches are gathered together Where therefore there is no Ministery of the Word there it is plain that there are no visible and apparent Churches It is another piece of the Discipline of the Lord that the rest of the body of the Church should obey those that are set over them in the Lord wheresoever therefore there is no obedience of the people to the Ministers that in the Lords name preach unto them there can be no true Church of Christ But where these two be although other points want yea although there be some defect in these that neither the Ministers do in all points preach as they ought nor the Assemblies in all points obey unto the wholesome doctrine of their Teachers yet do they for the reason above-said retein the right of the Churches of God This is made plain by a similitude from the body of a man whereinto we are already entred For if a man should have both his hands and his arms cut off his eyes put out c. yet as long as the head standeth and other vital parts he is to be accompted a Man although a maimed man Even so it is in the Assembly as long as it holdeth the head how defective soever it is otherwise it hath the due and right of the Church of God And although a man should have six fingers in one hand and but three in another and albeit they should stand where the mouth doth yet all this deformity should not hinder him from being truely holden to be a Man although it should be a great deformity in him On the other part if he had no Head at all or that there were no natural conjunction of the parts one with another but a whole and through displacing of every part from his proper seat then verily would he be denyed to have either the proportion of a Man or his life So likewise if an Assembly should not hold the Head which is Jesus Christ or be nothing elss but a confused multitude without part of the order which the Son of God hath appointed the same is justly crossed out of the accompt of Gods Church Was not Jerusalem after the return from Babylon the City of the great King until such time as Nehemiah came and builded the Walls of the City To say therefore it is none of the Church of God because it hath not received the Discipline metthinks it is all one with this as if a man should say It is no City because it hath no Wall or that it is no Vineyard because it hath neither ditch nor hedge It is not I grant so sightly a City or Vineyard nor yet so safe against the invasion of their several enemies which lye in wait for them yet are they truely both Cities and Vineyards There remaineth that other point which is against those Assemblies onely which have a dumb Minister wherein the part of your conclusion That that Assembly where they be is none of the Church of God is before answered Therein resteth that part of your conclusion whereby you infer That the Sacraments ministred by them are none of Gods Sacraments and therefore that a man may not receive any part of them at their hands Here first I agree with you that their Ministery is unlawful and to themselves without repentance a certain matter of destruction especially in those to whom knowledge of corruption is come to the Churches where they be presently hurtful and in the end without remedy deadly But that they are no Ministers of God so far as to receive the good they offer unto us that I suppose I may not yield unto The ground whereof I take from the former part of my Answer That for so much as they are allowed by the Churches of God they ought until remedy may be found of so great disorder to be heard and retained so far as they can give us any thing that is of Christ And for this cause our Saviour commanded that the Scribes should be heard for that they taught truely which honour our Saviour would never have given unto them unless the Church-calling had moved him thereunto Neither had it been lawful for the people otherwise to have heard them for it is evident that their unfitness and unlawfulness in the Ministery although another way was as great as it is in our reading Ministers They were altogether deceived in the Messias for neither knew they that Jesus was Christ nor yet that Christ whom they looked for should be the Son of God but held him for a bare and naked man It appeareth also that they taught the Justification by the Law of Works not onely in the 18. of Luke but even in the same very place where our Saviour Christ commandeth this audience for speaking of the works of the moral Law which

THE JUDGMENT OF M. CARTWRIGHT AND M. BAXTER Concerning SEPARATION And the Ceremonies LONDON Printed in the Year 1673. TO THE READER UPon this following Letter of T. C. there will need no other observation than what Archbishop Bancroft long since made in these words But it most of all pleaseth me to see how Master Cartwright draweth homeward For as the Anabaptists by their madness kept Master Calvin within some good compass and as Master Beza hath been compelled in some sort to retire himself from his former eagerness so assuredly the phrenetical giddiness of these our new unbrideled Schismaticks who for pretended purity are many degrees beyond all the Savoyan Disciplinarians hath wrought a miracle to my understanding upon M. Cartwright For hear him how for fear of falling into flat Donatism he was fain to plead against one that had been his Scholar in the behalf of the Church of England so bitterly before by himself impugned The ordinary assemblies saith he of those which profess the Gospel in England are the Churches of Christ which he proveth in this sort Those Assemblies which have Christ for there head and the same also for their foundation are Gods Churches Such are the assemblies of England Therefore c. Again They that have performed unto them the special Covenant which the Lord hath made with his Churches of pouring his spirit upon them and putting his word into their mouths are the Churches of God But such are the assemblies in England Therefore c. Hereunto may be added saith he further the judgment of all the Churches of Christ in Europe all which give the right hand of Society in the house of God unto the assemblies which are in England Again to prove that the Church of England is the Church of God notwithstanding it want the pretended Discipline he useth this distinction that at it is in mans body so is it in this matter there are certain-parts essential and such as without the which a man cannot stand and some serving either to his comelyness or to his continuance And of this latter sort he maketh the Discipline And lastly he write thus To say that the Church of England is not the Church of God because it hath not received this Discipline methinks is all one with this as if a man would say It is no City because it hath no wall or that it is no Vineyard because it hath neither hedge nor ditch Thus far Master Cartwright In which his manner of speech you find a very great alteration from his anoient stile And as concerning the necessity whereof I intreat the wind you see is turned There is no more necessity in England of the Geneva platform than that every City in this Realm should be walled about And besides the pretended Discipline is become not to be any longer of the essence of the Church but as appertaining to the comelyness of it And a little after And this I will add unto it that if Master Cartwright would but confer with some that haves kill in fortification to know of him whether an old thick wall of lime and stone made many hundred years since or a new slight wall slubbered over and wrought with untempered mortar some few years ago whether I say of these two walls are of better defense for any City I should be in good hope that he would in short time leave the Disciplinary walls of Geneva and content himself with the ancient fortifications of the Church of England and the rather because he seeth what a giddy and itching humour his novelties have bred in the unstayed sort of many fantastical people Now to what M. Cartwright hath said in general to shew that there is no such necessity of Separation from the Church of England as some of his followers now pretend may be added the Judgment of a later Writer concerning those particulars which are so much scrupled by them who under pretense of greater purity will needs cast out all decency and good order from the House of God in a Book intituled Five Disputations of Church Government and Worship Printed at London 1659. A LETTER of T. C. TO RICHARD HARRISON CONCERNING SEPARATION Grace and Peace c. FOR so much as I left you the choice for the first conference whether you would have it in writing or by speech of mouth I attended some daies for Answer of that matter which because it was not returned I esteemed that you held you still to the request of your Letters which was to receive something from me by writing For Answer therefore So it is that your Letters affected me diversly for where your first page had raised me up unto some hope of re-uniting your self with the rest of your company unto us from whom you have thought good to sunder your selves the second page which layeth forth the condition of our peace did cast me and as were beat me from it again Howbeit the mercy of God upholding me in some good hope of profiting you or receiving profit from you I thought to cut out this time of my weightiest and most necessary business wherein I might give that contentment which the Lord hath enabled mine hand unto Unto you not unwilling to come to us the passage as it seemeth is stopped in divers respects The short whereof is The receiving without publick repentance of those which come from the Churches of England where because in the outward profession that the Laws of the Land do justifie the dumb ministry there appear unto you no lawful assemblies of the Church of Christ your fear is least in uniting your selves with such you should be unequally yoaked and made fellow members of some other than of that whereof Christ Jesus is the Head First therefore if it be shewed that the ordinary assemblies of those that profess the Gospel in England be the Churches of Christ it seemerh that the way will be paved and planed for mutual entercourse between us Thus therefore it seemeth to be performed Those Assemblies which have Christ for their Head and the same also for their Foundation are Gods Church But such are the Assemblies of England Ergo They are Gods Church The Assumption is evident in that by believing that Christ is our righteousness we are members of his body and thereby are lively stones laid upon him as upon a foundation and grow into one spiritual house with him Now that they have like precious faith with us is convinced not onely by their own profession but by the testimony of the Spirit of God who by manifold graces poured upon them doth bear them witness that they be members of the body of Christ who as the Head hath partaked unto them his Holy Spirit even to an apparent sanctification of numbers of them They which have performed unto them the special Covenant which the Lord hath made with his Churches by pouring his Spirit upon them and his word in their mouths are the Churches