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A16941	A discouerie of certaine errours published in print in the much commended Britannia. 1594 Very preiudiciall to the discentes and successions of the auncient nobilitie of this realme. By Yorke Herault.; Discoverie of certaine errours published in print in the much commended Britannia. Part 1.	Brooke, Ralph, 1553-1625.; Leland, John, 1506?-1552. Laboryouse journey and serche of Johan Leylande, for Englaundes antiquitees.	1599 (1599)	STC 3834; ESTC S106718	60,269	98

erred to the great preiudice of the honourable Lord viscount Monta-cute the Lord Cobham and the Baron Wentworth with manie other now liuing descended of the same honourable familie the true discent here following will explaine Michael De-la-Poole Lord Wingfield Earle of Suffolke and knight of the noble order of the Garter sonne and heire of Sir William De-la-Poole knight Banneret and of Katherine his wife sister of sir Iohn Norwich knight had issue Michaell De-la-Poole the second Earle of Suffolke who died at Haresflew 1415. leauing issue two sonnes Michaell De-la-Poole Earle of Suffolk that died at the battell of Agincourt in the 3. yeare of Henry the fift without issue William De-la-Poole Marques and afterward Duke of Suffolke who was beheaded on the seas 26. of king Henrie the sixt whom you make sonne to his grandfather Michaell the first of that name And for the better satisfying of the world that this Michaell De-la-Poole the first Earle of Suffolke of that familie was not basely descended nor a marchant of Hull as you and others after you haue written I haue hereto added a deede of the said Michaels before he was Earle which doth proue his father mother brother sister and children MIchael De-la-poole dominus Wingfield c. I Michael De-la-Poole Lord Wingfield doe confirme certaine landes to the religious house of Saintcleare neare vnto Kingstone vpon Hull the which lands were before giuen by sir William De-la-Pole knight my father to pray for the good estate of king Richard and for Michaell De-la-poole Iohn Thomas William Richard and Margaret my children and for sir Edmond De-la-Poole knight my Brother and Margaret Neuill my sister and for the soules of sir William De-la-Poole my father and Katherin my mother c. Witnesses Alexander Archbishop of York Henrie Percie Earle of Northumberland Thomas Sutton Robert de Hilton and Walter Fawconbridge knights with manie others Dated at Hull the first of March the seuenth yeare of the reigne of King Richard the second HEngham the Barons thereof were called the Barons of Rhia who discended from Iohn Marshall nephew of William Marshall Earle of Penbroke by his brother to whome King Iohn gaue the lands of Hugh Gurney a traitor togither with the daughter and coheire of Hubert de Rhia From the Marshals the same came to the Morleys and from them by the Louels to Parker now Lord Morley Pag. 360. NOw comming to speake of the Barons of Rhia let mee by your patience put you in minde of a late conference had before the now right honourable Earle marshall of England concerning the true coates of the two families of Bygot Earle of Norfolke and Marshall Earle of Penbroke Master Garter hauing before that time set downe and quartered in diuerse noble personages atchieuements for Marshals coate quarterly gold and vert a Lion passant Gules a coate latelie deuised and for Bygots coate perpale golde and vert a Lion rampant Gules neither of them both being in truth their right coates My selfe being commaunded to say what I knew touching these matters shewed for Marshals coate one faire deed with a seale of Armes thereto of Iohn Marshall father of William Marshall Earle of Penbroke and Anselme that was father to Iohn Marshall Baron of Rhia on which seale was written Iohn Marshall and in his shield or escucheon a bend fuzulie Also I shewed a transcript of an other deed of the said Iohn in which was written Iohn sonne of Iohn the Kinges Marshall with the same Armes of a bend fuzulie testified vnder the hand of an Officer of armes long before that time deceased Lastly I shewed an old roll of Armes wrought in colorus in Henrie the thirds time wherein was the same coate viz. Gules a bende fuzulie golde and ouer the heade thereof written the name of Marshall All which proofes notwithstanding your selfe being there then present verie stedfastlie denied the same to bee the coate of Marshall Earle of Penbroke affirming that bend fuzulie to be the peculiar coate of Marshall Baron of Rhia who was as you then said of no consanguinitie to Marshall Earle of Penbroke For further maintaining of which your speach you then shewed two newe petegrees lately contriued and made by your consent declaring the saide two Marshals to bee seuerall families and not one Since which time perusing well your Britannia fol. 360 I finde the same there auouched by yourselfe for truth which at that time you so confidently denied before the said Earle Marshall viz. That Iohn Marshall Baron of Rhia was nephew to William Marshall Earle of Penbroke by his brother which is quite contrarie to your speeches before vsed By this your information of these Marshals to be seuerall families without which you had no colour to maintaine your errour for that the Barons of Rhia alwayes vsed for their coate of Armes the said bend fuzulie the right coate of Marshall is like now to bee neglected and the Lion in the parted field vsed in stead thereof the same being the peculiar coate borne by Marshall and Bygot when they were Marshals of Englnd and not belonging to anie one priuate name as by many other good proofes it may appeare And because I would not haue any heareafter to stand doubtfull which of vs both are to be beleeued touching these two Marshals to bee discended of one parent I will here set downe the record that doth warrant the same Which being proued I trust you will shew vs some reason why the yonger brother did beare the bend fuzulie if not discended to him from his father That done I will then shew you proofe howe and when both the elder Marshall and Bygot did beare the Lion on the parted field which you missed to find in Master Somersets Notes and Master Leylands twelue bookes lent you by master Iohn Stow in whose custodie I haue seene diuerse of them being most excellent and rare works touching the description of this Countrey written not vpon here-say and reportes but vpon his eye-sight and long trauell from towne to towne and place to place vpon the Kings charge and Commission which Bookes I wish might bee published in the right Authours name EX Rotulo cartarum de Anno quinto Regis Iohannis Iohannes Mariscallus nepos Guilielmi Marescalli comitis Penbroc Habet terras in Norfolke Suffolke quae fuerunt Hugonis de Gornaco proditoris regis terram quae fuit Hugonis de Angee in Norfolke Kantelee Castre c. Testibus I. Norwich Episcopo Gulielmo Marescallo Comit. Penbroc Galfrid filio Petri Comit. Essex Roberto filio Rogeri Hugone de Neuill Dat. apud Merleberge 16. Ianuarii KIng Stephen gaue Norwich to his sonne William from whom king Henrie the second tooke it againe and kept it himself although that Henrie his sonne called the yong King had when hee had aspired vnto the crowne with great protestation promised the same vnto Hugh Bygot whom he had drawne vnto his faction Bygot notwithstanding following the yong kings side who

coulde not containe his hope offered touching the kingdome within the bounds of right and reason grieuouslie afflicted this citie And afterward being made Earle of Norfolke he is thought to haue builded that Castle vpon a high hill neare to the Church which being maruailous deepely entrenched about was in those dayes thought impregnable But Lewis the Frenchman to whom the seditious Barons of England had sworne their fidelitie easilie tooke the same by composition We thinke in deed that Bygot did build this Castle because we haue seene their Lyons saliant in the same forme engrauen in stone as the Bygots vsed them in their seales before they obtained the honour of Marshals Pag. 363. IF your wordes here had beene but coniecturall or gathered by reports as in many other places they are you should haue lesse discredited your selfe then by affirming you had seene that which in truth you did neuer see for where you say We thinke that the Bygots builded this Castle because wee haue there seene Lions saliant in the same forme engrauen in stone as the Bygots vsed in their seales before they obtained the honour and office of Marshall certaine it is that on the said Castle there are no Lions saliant nor any such Ensigne or token as the Bygots did beare in seale or shield or any Armes at all And for that you did of late as before vpon conference had before the now Earle Marshall of England affirme the saide Lious saliant vpon the Castle walles of Norwich to bee the true Armes of the Bygots before they came to bee Marshals of England my selfe hauing seene diuerse deedes of the said Bygots to prooue the contrarie the Seales whereof were Shieldes charged onelie with a plaine Crosse which coate you then auouched to be the Armes of Vlster whervpon I for my better satisfaction therein did ride to Norwich for to search the truth of your speach and going into the said castle I founde ouer the first gate two great stones fixed of some yarde square and vppon each of them a Lyon passant cowardie their tayles turning vnder their bellies and comming ouer their backes but in no Shielde or Escucheon And seeking more diligentlie all other places about the saide Castle I did finde ouer the hall doore other two like stones with a Lyon also vppon each of them but contrarie to the former for these were passant regardants with their tayles ouer their backes and the endes in their mouthes yet neither in Shielde nor Escucheon And therefore no such coate armour is there vppon the Castell of Norwich as you sayde you had seene that the Bygots did vse in their Shieldes and Seales In consideration of this my great paines and iourney I desire but that you will from hencefoorth make a difference betweene the Antique fictions of a caruers braine and the right ensignes of our auncient Nobilitie which you say Were in King Henrie the thirds time but euerie mans owne inuentions they being long time before the honorable rewardes and tokens of valorous persons VVOrmegay commonly called wrongay was giuen by William the third Earle Warren and Surrey to Reignald de Warren his younger brother by whose grandchilde Nicholea daughter of William his sonne it was forthwith translated to the Bardolphs who bare for their armes in a shield Azur three Cinkfoyles golde a great part of whose inheritance togither with the dignitie fell to William Philips and by his daughter vnto the viscount Beaumount Pag. 369. YOur bare imagination cōcerning the gift of Wormegay by William Earle Warren to his yonger brother is nothing probable for Reignald de Warren had the same by marriage with the daughter heire of William de Wormegay not by any gift of his brother And where you affirme the said Reignald had a grandchild by his sonne William named Nicholea married to Bardolph I say he neuer had anie such grandchild but two others called Beatrix and Isabell which Beatrix was married to Bardolph as by the testimonie of seuerall deedes here following it may appeare NOtum sit omnibus tam praesentibus quam futuris quod ego Reginaldus de Warren c. Be it knowne vnto all men aswell present as they that shall be hereafter that I Reignald de Warren haue giuen my church of Plumbtō to the Canons of Southwark for the health of my soule and of Alice my wife William my sonne Isabel the Countesse my mother and William Earle Warren my brother and of William de wormegay father of Alice my said wife c. SCiant praesentes futuri quod ego Gulielmus de Warren c. Let those men know that are present and they that shall come hereafter that I William de Warren do giue and confirme to the Canons of Southwarke thirtie Acres of land in ●otis●ray for the health of mine owne soule my father Reignald my mother Alice and my wife Beatrix my sonne Reignald and my daughters Beatrix and Isabell and for all my auncestors c. VVIlliam the Conquerour made Raph the first Earle of Norfolke who as I haue saide stirring vp newe Rebellion had for his successor Hugh Bygot Earle of Norfolke who had the third pennie of the said Countie as appeareth in his Charter of creation giuen him by king Henrie the first whose stewarde he was After whom in direct succession from father to sonne followed Hugh that tooke part with Henrie the yong king against king Henrie the second his father Roger which flourished in king Iohns time Hugh who died in the yeare of our Lord 1225. Roger who in right of his wife brought into his familie the Honor of Marshall of England for he married Maude the eldest daughter and one of the heires of William Marshall Earle of Penbroke by whom he had issue Roger earle of Norfolke who being wounded with running at the tilt died without issue and Hugh Bygot Lord chiefe Iustice being slaine in the battell of Lewis his sonne Roger was placed after his vncles death in the Earldome of Norfolke and dignitie of Marshal who incurring the displeasure of king Edward the second was inforced to passe ouer all his honours and almost his whole inheritance to the king Pag. 370. THe errors herein are these first you say that Hugh Bygot was Earle of Norfolke and had the third pennie of that Countie as appeareth by his Charter of creation giuen him by king H. the first For answere I say you haue not seene nor can proue any such Charter as you here auouch neither was he the said Hugh or any of that familie Earle before the first yeare of king Stephen who then made him Earle of Norfolke because he being present at the death of king Henrie the first testifie before the Archbishop of Canterburie and other the Barons of this realme that hee heard king Henry vpon his death bed say his will was that his Nephew Stephen and not Maude his daughter should succeede him in his kingdome of England Secondly where you reckon a confused

approbation hereof it appeareth by diuerse offices in the time of king Edward the third that Iohn Handlo in right of Maude Burnell his wife was seased of the Mannors of Holgat and Acton Burnell for terme of his life the Remainder to Nicholas Handlo alias Burnell sonne and heire of the said Iohn by Maude his wife And therefore no such Hugh as you auouch to be sonne of Iohn Handlo but had you said that Hugh had bene grand-childe of Iohn and sonne of Nicholas then had you in this point saued your owne credit and me a labour HArewood Castell came from the Curcyes to Waryn Ftz-Gerald whose daughter Margaret was married first to Bauldwyn Riuers sonne to the Earle of Deuonshire who dyed before his father and after she married Foulke de Brent from her it came by inheritaunce to G. Lisley whose successors were called Lordes of the Isle Rougemont and Harewood But male issue fayling the sister of the last Robert transported this inheritaunce by mariage to William de Alborough by whose onely daughter it came to the Rythers which now holdeth the same Pag. 535. YOur errors committed in this Title of Harewood Castell are worthie some censure For first you say that Harewood Castell came from the Curcyes to Waryn Fitz-Gerald and that his daughter Margaret caryed the same by marriage to Bauldwyn Ryuers Wherein you are greatlie deceaued For Waryn Fitz-Gerald which first possessed Harewood Castell by marrying the sister heire of Curcy had issue a sonne and no daughter which sonne had issue an other sonne and two daughters and so your discent verie vntrue in that poynt Secondly you affirme that after the death of the said Margaret Harewood Castell did discend by inheritance to G. Lisley To that I answere Had you knowne the trueth of this discent you would haue set downe both the time and how the said G. Lisley was the said Margarets heire whether by lineall or collaterall discent but that being a matter too intricate for you to performe in steede thereof you were forced to leaue for his name a bare letter G. and his right of inheritance for the readers of your Booke to finde in nubibus And although for some speciall cause I do forbeare heere to lay open this honorable progenie of Lisles yet by the way will I tell you that there was neuer anie one of that familie whose name began with a G. that possessed Harewood as an inheritance discended to him from the foresaid Margaret nor that wanting heires male his issue carried the same by marriage to the familie of Aldborough as you verie vndiscreetly haue heere set downe for all those Lysleys that were owners of Harewood were called by the name of Iohn Thirdly that the sister and heire of Robert Lysley transported this inheritance by marriage to William de Aldborough I vtterly deny the same and for proofe say that Elizabeth the wife of Sir William Aldborough was sister and heire of Iohn Lisley in the time of king Edward the thirde and not of Robert And lastly whereas without any probabilitie you affirme that the foresaid Sir William Alborough had issue by his wife one onely daughter and heire married to Sir William Ryther I answere that in saying he had but one onelie daughter you wrong diuers Worshipfull families now liuing that are discended of Elizabeth an other daughter and coheire of the said Sir William Aldborough and his wife who was first married to Sir Bryan Stapleton and after to Sir Richard Redman as by an inquisition taken after the death of the said Sir William Aldborough and Elizabeth his wife in the. 12. yeere of king Richard the second it doth appeare FOkingham now the habitation of the Clyntons in auncient time the Barony of Gauntes who discended from Gilbert of Gaunt grand-child to Bauldwyn Earle of Flaunders to whom many goodly Reuenewes fell by the bountie of William the Conquerour His sonne Walter of Gaunt begate Gilbert created by king Stephen Earle of Lincolne and Robert of Gaunt but the Earle left one onely daughter maried to Symon the third Earle of Northhampton who dyed without issue to whom her vncle Robert succeeded in the Baronie and was father to Gilbert de Gaunt to whom Lewis the Frenchman called in by the Barons against king Iohn graunted the tytle of Earle of Lyncolne whose sonne the thirde Gilbert begate the fourth Gilbert and Margaret wife to William Kyrdeston which fourth Gilbert hauing no children made E. 1. his heire and king E. 2. gaue this Barony to Henrie de Bellement or Beaumonte Pag. 412. FIrst in your assertion that Gilbert the Earle sonne and heire to Walter de Gaunt had but one onely daughter It is manifestly to be prooued that he had two sonnes and a daughter both which sonnes had issue Secondly I say that neither the daughter of Gilbert came to the inheritance nor any such vncle Robert succeeded her in that dignitie the right thereof euer remayning in her brothers who with their issue succeeded in the dignitie Thirdly that the foresaid Robert was not father to the third Gilbert as you report whom Lewis the Frenchman made Earle of Lincolne but great vncle if any such Robert were euer at all and the better to manifest the same I haue heere set you downe the rrueth of this discent as ensueth WAlter de Gaunt sonne of Gilbert de Gaunt that founded the House of Gauntes in the citie of Bristow in William Conquerours time had issue Gilbert made Eare of Lincolne by king Stephen Walter Henrie Bawldwyn Gonora and Agnes The said Earle Gilbert maried Hawise daughter of the first William Romare Earle of Lincolne and had issue Gilbert the second Earle of Lincolne disinherited by Henrie the second Bawldwyn Lord of Borne and Alice wife to Simon Sanctolice Earle of Northampton Gilbert the seconde had issue the thirde Gilbert whom Lewis the Frenchman made Earle of Lincolne and that died sanz issue in Henrie the thirdes time Bawldwyn second sonne of the first Earle Gilbert was by the gift of his father Lord of Borne and Deeping he founded the Abbay of Borne 1140. in the honour of Henrie the second his Maister and died the 4. of May. 1156. leauing Emme his onely daughter and heire maried to Hugh Lord Wake of Lydell of whom the noble families of Wakes descended And now to returne againe to Walter de Gaunt Lord of Folkingham seconde sonne to the first Walter whom you name Robert he had issue Gilbert de Gaunt father to the second Gilbert whose sonne Gilbert the third was the first Baron of Folkingham and was by that name in a Parliament holden at Worcester 49. of Henrie the thirde This Gilbert had great liuinges geuen vnto him by Gilbert the last Earle of Lincolne his kinsman He died leauing issue Gilbert de Gaunt his sonne who was Baron of Folkingham 24. E. 1. Nichola wife to Peter Malolakue and Margaret wife to William Kyrdeston Thus by my long and laborious iourney in the ende