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A48308 Defensive doubts, hopes, and reasons, for refusall of the oath, imposed by the sixth canon of the late synod with important considerations, both for the penning and publishing of them at this time / by John Ley ... ; hereunto is added by the same author, a letter against the erection of an altar, written above five yeares agoe, and a case of conscience, touching the receiving of the sacrament, resolved. Ley, John, 1583-1662. 1641 (1641) Wing L1874; ESTC R21343 93,675 154

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DEFENSIVE DOUBTS HOPES AND REASONS For refusall of the Oath imposed by the sixth Canon of the late Synod With important Considerations both for the penning and publishing of them at this time By JOHN LEY Pastor of Great Budworth in Cheshire Above all things my Brethren sweare not Jam. 5.12 Falsa Juratio exitiosa est vera Juratio periculosa est nulla Juratio secura est August serm 28. de verbis Apostoli Hereunto is added by the same Author A Letter against the erection of an Altar written above five yeares agoe And a case of conscience touching the receiving of the Sacrament resolved LONDON Printed by R. Young for G. Lathum at the signe of the Bishops head in Pauls Church-yard 1641. To the right Worshipfull Sir William Brereton Baronet Peter Venables Esquire Baron of Kinderton Knights of the Shire for the County Palatine of Chester and Sir Thomas Smith And To the Worshipfull Francis Gamull Esquire Burgesses for the Citie of Chester John Ley wisheth the welfare of this and the other World Right Wor ll and worthy Sirs AS the good providence of God and the good will of your Countrie have sorted you together in the designe of publicke service of the Church and State so your united Interests in the cause and composer of this Booke have joyntly rather claimed as a dutie then invited as a courtesie that I should present it to publicke view under all your names It proposeth and pursueth many as I hope a judicious Reader will upon serious perusall find them just and weighty exceptions against the late Oath of the sixth Canon wherein it waiteth upon the wisdome and justice of your Honourable House of Commons who have voted it to vanish like the smoake of a Canon without a Bullet making a great sound but doing no hurt to avow your righteous and religious Act therein against the mis-conceit of such as either partially or perversly misdeeme the deserved doome which you have passed upon it And if now by your hands it may come to the eyes of your venerable Associates it may haply find such acceptance in their sight that by your common favour it may have the honour to appeare before the right Honourable Lords of the Upper House of Parliament and to represent us who were most exposed to the perill of the Canonicall Decree the more capable of the concurrent Grace of you all in the full and finall abrogation thereof And for my selfe besides my generall engagements with thousands who owe you the affectionate observance of publicke Patriots and Patrons in the places to which you are called the particular favours which I have received from you in severall oblige mee this or any other way wherein I may doe you any acceptable service to expresse my selfe Yours most ready to attend you with humble observance JOHN LEY From my Lodging at the Fountaine in Pauls Church-yard Febr. 22 1640. A Letter declaring the occasion of beginning a manner of proceeding for the penning and publishing of the Discourse ensuing TO The Right Worshipfull and Worshipfull my very reverend and worthy Friends and Brethren Mr. Th. M. D. of Ch. Dr. D. D. of R. Mr. R. H. W. of M. and Mr. Ch. H. R. of W. and with them to the rest of my venerable Brethren of the Diocesse of Chester My worthy and well beloved Brethren and Friends BEsides the Doubts of the Oath proposed in this Booke whereof wee must wait for resolution from our Superiours there may bee some Doubts of the Booke it selfe to which it most belongeth to mee to make answer and therein partly to give satisfaction to you and partly to require testification from you since to many of you a good part of what I shall say is very well knowne and that with the rest I shall reduce to these foure particulars whereof most as yet have either none or at least but a doubtfull apprehension and wherein it is meet they should be rightly informed 1. Concerning the occasion of the discourse ensuing 2. The presenting of it at first to you and then to him to whom it is inscribed 3. The addition made in this I may say second edition though a It was then not intended for the Presse yet but a manuscript 4. The Reasons why now I am willing to communicate Copies of it which before I was not First for the Occasion it was this Some of you and divers others my selfe for one met at W. at the monethly Exercise set up or upheld as is confidently delivered by divers persons of unquestionable credit with the good liking and allowance of our late learned Soveraigne as a godly and gratefull memoriall of his Majesties and the Kingdomes deliverance from the Powder Treason At one of the Assemblies there the Bishop of Chester that now is not long before hee was advanced to the Episcopall Chaire bestowed his paines in the Pulpit one part of the day and I mine the other At our premised meeting which was August 18. last past the service of the day was divided betwixt you Mr. Ch. H. and mee and our minds and tongues united in pressing Peace and Charity most needfull Themes for these crazie and distracted times Our Sermons ended and some of us invited to a place of convenient repose the rest of our Tribe who were a part of that Congregation resorted unto us every man accompanying his acquaintance and so making as it were a whole chaine of many linkes and withall it is not unlike but that the most that there met in person met also in perplexity of mind by reason of the late Canonicall Oath and in their desires to be resolved of their Doubts and they might have so much more hope thereof as there were the more at that time with whom in such cases of conscience they might consult Howsoever being so met that which was the common talke of the Laity and the particular trouble of the Clergy could not but be a principall part of our discourse at that time and of that the most that was said was the proposall of a Doubt Whether the Oath were doubtfull or no and all of us expressing but the same conceipt as I verily beleeve which every one brought with him unanimously consented in an Affirmative answer Our next Quaere was what course should be taken either that we might not take it or that it might be so cleared and qualified unto us that our consciences might not be entangled by it and for that wee resolved to propose our Doubts of the Oath to the Bishop of the Diocesse and by him to advance higher though in the low and humble way of Petition if there were cause Then the Question was Who should draw up our desires and doubts in writing and the company assembled presently agreed to put that taske upon me which I then undertooke This was the worst of that daies work which some whose place and profession promised more charity and discretion have slandered as a Schismaticall Conventicle