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A60496 The narrative of Mr. John Smith of Walworth ... containing a further discovery of the late horrid and popish-plot ... Smith, John, of Walworth. 1679 (1679) Wing S4127; ESTC R15413 45,689 42

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mind after I became settled at Mr. Jenisons heightned my Abhorrency of them For it is an easier thing to divest a man of the Principles of Supernatural Revelation than to eradicate out of him the Principles of natural Religion We may be sooner brought to Renounce the Doctrines of Faith than the measures of Justice betwixt Man and Man And there are some who would more easily let go all the Articles upon which future Happiness depends then bid farewell to those Dictates of Natural Light upon which the Government of Kingdoms and the peace of Societies hang and bear And to deal freely as I sooner observed the falshood of the Romish Doctrines which relate to Magistrates than of those which concern Jesus Chrìst and Salvation by him so the conviction I was under of the Erroneousness of the former was that which led me first to examin then to doubt of and at last to renounce all the latter For as I plainly perceived that no man can be loyal to his Prince and faithfull to the Government he lives under and withall maintain the Universal Jurisdiction of the Pope viz. his right to Depose Kings and Absolve Subjects from their Allegiance so I suddenly came to understand that no one can be a Papist but he who holds them For to disclaim them is to disclaim both the Infallibility of the Pope and the Authority of General Councils which is in effect to abjure the whole Popish Religion as having no other foundation but the Decrees of Popes and Canons of Councils Being then settled as I intimated at Mr. Jenisons House and having called over all the Traiterous Positions I had heard the Jesuits teach and having found them agreeable unto and justified by their publick Writings I thereupon made it my business to exclude both all Jesuits and all other Priests Jesuitically inclined from coming to the said House or wheresoever else Mr. Jenison had to do For though I was not yet so far enlightned my self as to think of Converting that Family from being Papists yet I was resolved to preserve them from being Traytors and accordingly to hinder all such from coming among them who might infect them with Disloyal Principles section XXI Now during my abode there and my Converse with the Countrey about the first suspition I received of the Plot was an Vniversal Collection of Moneys which I observed to be made among the Papists I was my self sollicited by Mr. William Gascoyne and other Secular Priests to assist in it but I not only declined Cooperating in such a business but diswaded Mr. Jenison and all others I had the Conduct of from contributing Money upon any occasion 'T is true the Pretence was to repair the College of Doway which is penall by the Law should it be granted that the Money was so applyed but I have reason to apprehend that under the Umbrage of repairing a College they were providing for the Ruine of a Kingdom For the Collections were Universall in all the Northern Parts and not only the Gentry but most others of the Popish Religion in those Counties contributed their Proportions some to Five pounds some to Ten pounds and some to Twenty pounds He must be of a very shallow Understanding that can once imagine that so great Treasure as this would come to should be all sacrificed to the Repair of a College No it must have been some greater Design that so large a supply of ready Money was intended for I grant that my own refusing to assist in that Affair together with the Jealousies they had conceived of me for excluding all the Jesuits and such other Priests as were tainted with their Principles from admission into Mr. Jenisons House gave them sufficient reason to conceal the disposal of it from me But this I know that all the Moneys which were collected were either paid or to be paid to Mr. William Stephenson a Priest Though the many foregoing passages which I have truly reported section XX gave me full assurance of a Conspiracy against His Majesties Life and the Protestant Religion as by Law Established in these Nations yet I knew that it would have been morally impossible through the interest which the Papists had in Persons near His Majesty to get the Jesuits and much less the Romish Party Convicted upon this General and withall single Evidence And therefore I found it necessary for a season to conceal these things lest I should not only miscarry my self upon attempts to Detect them but withall enrage the Papists to precipitate their Designs upon the Sacred Life of the King However I resolved to be watchfull over all Opportunities whereby I might attain a more perfect insight into their Hellish and Mysterious Conspiracies And as in this interim the Plot came to be discovered by Mr. Oates so an occasion presented it self in a Conference thereupon betwixt Mr. Robert Jenison and me which not only contributed to my own more perfect satisfaction in reference to their Bloody Designs but hath given rise to Mr. Jenisons own Discovery And as it is convenient that the World should know the sense and tenor of that Discourse which past betwixt Mr. Jenison and me so I think it fittest to deliver it in the words of the Information which I gave in to one of His Majesties Justices of the Peace Middls West ss Part of the Information of John Smith of Walworth in the County Palatine of Durham Gentleman taken upon Oath the 8. day of September 1679. before me Edmund Warcup Esquire one of His Majesties Justices of the Peace in the said County and City THis Informant saith that Mr. Robert Jenison came to his Fathers House in September 1678. where after he had been some days Sr. Edward Smith came to Walworth and produced a Letter signifying a Discovery of a Popish Plot in London and upon enquiry who were in it Ireland and Whitebread were named About three or four days after which Mr. Robert Jenison before his Father Sisters and this Informant said he believed there was something of a Plot for that he had heard Mr. Ireland say 't was an easie matter to take off the King Whereupon this Informant asked him what that Ireland was Who answered he was a Jesuit and his Cousen And Mrs. Katherine Jenison his Sister asked when he saw Mr. Ireland Who answered a little before he came out of Town at his Lodging in Russel-street which was on the Day that himself came from Windsor and the same Day that Mr. Ireland came Post out of Staffordshire and that he then found him pulling off his Boots Mrs. Katherine Jenison then asked him how her Aunt in Staffordshire did Who replied Mr. Ireland said she was well and that he had been with her in Staffordshire at that time This Informant then asked him what a kind of Man Mr. Ireland was Who answered that he was a fine countenanced smiling Man and swore if he be Guilty of this Plot I will never trust a Smiling Man again Thereupon
their Kingdoms And this Informant further saith that Mr. Jenison told him also at Walworth that Mr. Ireland had lent him Twenty pounds which he desired the Informant to send him to London to pay Mr. Ireland again This being the Narrative of the Information so far as it relates to this Purpose which was given in by me to Edmund Warcup Esquire one of His Majesties Justices of the Peace for the County of Middlesex and City of Westminster I shall only make these few Remarks upon what is here declared 1 It strongly and most effectually serveth to Corroborate all the Depositions which Mr. Robert Jenison hath made For all these Discourses past betwixt him and me whilest he was a Papist and before ever he had entertained a thought either of Changing his Religion or Informing concerning the Plot. He must be very obstinate as well as an incredulous Person that can after this deny Mr. Irelands being in London in August seeing the very Party that conversed with him told it to so many credible Witnesses within so few days after And which is most remarkable all this was declared to his Father Sister and my self when neither he nor any alive could apprehend that ever there would be an occasion of bringing this Circumstance upon the Stage And this being therefore so demonstratively made out none but Conspirators or Abettors of this Conspiracy can either bring into question the Truth of the Plot or give credit to Papists in any thing they say Nor can there be a greater Evidence of the Combination of the whole Papal Party to destroy the Nation then that rather than the Design should miscarry they will sacrifice their Souls and Consciences in the justification of a most palpable Lie 2. It may both induce us to believe that Mr. Jenison hath more to discover than he hath yet declared and also oblige us to give all credit to what he shall further say For it is plain from many passages which dropt from him that his Acquaintance with the Conspirators and his knowledge of their Devilish Machinations are more considerable than as yet he hath divulged T is true he hath neither done wisely nor with that simplicity which became a Christian either in delaying his Informing at first or in those Reserves which he still maintains Yet if we will observe the influence he was under partly from the regard he bore to the credit of the Romish Religion which himself then profest partly from the love he had to many of the Papists as his Kinsfolk and Friends partly from the concernment he had for his own Reputation which he knew upon his Discovering would be assaulted not to insist upon the apprehensions he might entertain concerning the danger and hazard to his Life which would ensue we may be not only the less surprized at his backwardness to discover but admire the over-ruling power of God in conquering his passions and jealousies so far as that he should make any Discovery at all And besides the Divine Wisdom which can serve it self both of our sin and folly hath turned it to wonderfull advantage that he informed not sooner For had he appeared before the Trial of Mr. Ireland there would never have been any such thing mentioned as Ireland's being in Staffordshire all the month of August No it was from an Opinion that none who knew of his Being in London would appear against him save Mr. Oates that gave him the confidence of betaking himself to that Shift And the Confounding them since in this particular hath both been and will hereafter prove of wonderfull Consequence 3. The discourses mentioned in the foregoing Depositions may serve to testifie my own Innocency as to any thing that relates to this Horrid Plot. For though I had prevailing Reasons to persuade me to believe that there was a design carrying on against the King the Protestant Religion and the Government of the Kingdom yet I neither directly nor indirectly had Accession to it nor assisted in it Yea so soon as I arrived at that measure of knowing it as Mr. Jenisons Conferences with me helpt me unto I did from thence forward not only by all means promote his coming to Inform but threatned the having himself in case he continued obstinate and refractory apprehended and proceeded against For besides those Letters of mine to that purpose Printed by himself in his own Narrative I wrote him many more upon the same Occasion which as they had the success upon him which I aimed at so having been designed for no other end but what is already accomplished I shall not trouble the World with them FINIS Page 13. l. 21. read perverting p. 14. l. 10. dele not p. 18. l. 47. for only r. not p. 19. l. 48. r. indispensably Lib. cui Titulus Tortus p. 19. See Baron ad Ann. 1172. Matth. Westm. lib. 2. Polyd. Virg. lib. 17. Hist. Angl. ubi supra De Laicis lib. 3. cap. 22. In 2.2 Th. qu. 12. See Compend of the Plot p. 73. See Prynt Discovery of a Popish Plot by Haberfeld De Laicis lib. 3. ca. 6. De jure Instit. lib. 2. cap. 6. De Rego lib 6. ca. 6. See Moulins Vindicat See Colemans Trial and therein his Letters Politicks of France cap. 5. See Persecution of the Protestants in France So the New Plot to Transform c. p. 15. Letter to both Houses p. 2. Compendium of the Trials p. 69. See the Mystery of Jesuits Let. 15. De Justit lib. 1. Tr. Disp. 12. Theolog. Fundamen N. 1151. Lib. 9. Decol 2. Sect. 2. De Justit lib. 2. c. 9. See also Escobar Morus Theolog. Tract 1. Exam. 7. cap. 2. Amicus de Justit Disp. 36. Sect. 5. Vbi supt Sect. 7. Seasonable Queries p. 1. Causa 23. q. 5. Canon Excommunicatorum See Gavans Speech Lib 1. Instruct. c. 13. Lib. 5. de Rom. Pontif c. 8. Tom. 3. in Th. Disp. 1. q. 12. Part 2. c. 2 Vide Thuan lib. 130 ad Ann. 1604. See Cambdens Life of Queen Eliz. See Anti-Coton Vide Crab. Tom. 2. p. 4. Cochl Hist. Hussitar lib. 5.