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A72111 The doctrines and practises of the Societie of Iesuites In two bookes. The first, containing their grounds and intentions, discovered by two of their owne societie, the Reverend Paulus Florenius, Doctor and professor of Divinitie, and Christianus Francken, professor of philosophy, both in the Imperiall Schoole of Iesuites at Vienna. The second, containing a detection of the secret designes and bloody proiects of that societie of later yeares; especially, since their first designes for disturbing the sate [sic] of Germanie. And may serue as a warning for vs of this iland, and these times whereinto wee are fallen. By W.F. an vnworthy minister of the Gospell of Iesus Christ.; Colloquium Jesuiticum. English Francke, Christian, b. 1549.; Freake, William.; Camilton, John. aut; Florenius, Paulus. 1630 (1630) STC 11346; ESTC S122937 33,931 78

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stormes at Sea and come safe to Land It is true indeed said the Philosopher heere is a multitude of Tables of them which haue escaped For they are no where painted that haue suffered Shipwracke notwithstanding their prayers to these Gods in this kinde and haue perished at Sea Which answere of his was wittie and beseeming a Philosopher for thereby hee did euidently enough declare that such people had not bin preserued by the helpe or fauour of IVPITER or IVNO or NEPTVNE or any other of their supposed Deities to whom they had directed their Supplications in this case Forasmuch as many others beside and such as perhaps were honester and better men then those who escaped though they had made the same prayers had perished in the waues But forasmuch as all men generally were accustomed in any time of distresse to flye by prayer to one or other of those supposed Deities and that it often fell out that naturall causes being violently prouoked and threatning Death being eyther stopped in the middest of their course or mittigated of themselues doe vpon a sudden yeeld hopes of deliuerance Thence is it that the effect thereof is without any good reason ascribed to their fained and imaginary Deities And euen thus and no otherwise standeth the case with our people of Italy in adoring and beleeuing on that Idoll of Loretto and offering vnto it Tables of Deuotion because inasmuch as all Italy almost maketh prayers vnto her and that of necessitie it must fall out that by one meanes or other in so great a Multitude of people some few at the least shall obtaine what they haue prayed for either through the especiall hand of God or by the strength of nature And that nature at somtimes euen seemeth to worke a Miracle all these things are by these stupi'd and blockish people attributed to their Lady of Loretto except perhaps men would deny that in the same manner and for the same end the Image of Ceres at a Citie called Enna in Sicilia as the same Cicero witnesseth hath made open declaration of her power and Godhead to vse Tullies owne phrase by many Miracles and wonders many a time and full often euen in the desperatest cases afforded vnto her suppliants present helpe and remedy But these things as I haue formerly said vnto you almost none but the vulgar and such as are like vnto them doe runne after and beleeue For euen the more learned of their owne Phisicians Philosophers and Diuines also as many as haue not their mouthes stopped with some Ecclesiasticall preferment do in their better judgements contemne and deride not onely these Miracles of Loretto but euen the very Romane religion it selfe as false and fained as I easily and apparantly discerned at my being at Naples where they had at that time obtained some restraint of the violence of the Romane Inquisition Yea and moreouer these Atheists euen to my face derided my name because it was Christianus for in the Italian Dialect by the word Christian they are wont to intimate a Blockhead or silly foolish fellow which thing as I conceiue they doe for this reason because in their judgement they hold no man fit or inclinable to beleeue the Popish Chimaraes but silly fooles and blockheads And these are chiefly those things which came into my mind to speak ●nd relate touching the Societie of Iesuites the Idols which it more particularly beleeueth in and adoreth beeing rowzed vp thereunto by your discourse and beyond all expectation illuminated therewith PAVL At this word Paulus looking stedfastly in my face spoke thus vnto mee I will not saith hee henceforth any more enquire after the Causes of so great blindnesse in the Iesuites I will admit no more excuses If in thee so great a light of the truth c●uld be depraued by Iesuiticall Education and almost quite ●xti●ct●n thee as I verily suppose it had beene in all likelihood if God had not sent me hither What may I imagine they are not able to worke in the darke and infatuated vnderstanding of others When he had thus said immediately the watch-word was giuen that it was time to retire from our walke and recreation and both of vs in priuate retired to our priuate Chambers Here endeth the first Booke FINIS THE SECOND PART Contayning a Detection of the secret Councels bloudie Projects and Practices of that Societie of later yeares especially since their first Designes for the disturbance of the State of GERMANIE about the yeare of our Lord 1608. MATH 7.15.16 Beware of false Prophets which come vnto you in Sheepes cloathing but inwardly are ravening Wolues By their fruits you shall know them LONDON Printed for GEORGE GIBBS at the Flower de Luce in Popes-head Alley 1630. TO THE RIGHT WOR full Sir EDVVARD BARKHAM Sir MARTIN LVMLEY Sir CVTHBERT HACKET and Sir MAVRICH ABBOT Knights And the Worshipfull HENRY GARAVVAY Esquire Aldermen of this Honourable Citie With the Master Wardens and Assistants of the right Worshipfull Companie of Drapers W. F. wisheth all such Blessings in this Life as may fit them for the blessed fruition of a better Life RIGHT WORSHIPFVLL THe Proverbe is not more antient then true Tunc tua res agitur paries quum proximus ardet When our Neighbours house is on fire it is high time to prouide for the safetie of our owne This present Age wherein wee liue and the distressed estate of our Neighbours and Brethren in Religion fallen vpon them within these few yeares past by the Machiavillian plots of that pernicious brood of Incendiaries stiled Iesuites gaue mee occasion to make vse of this Proverbe and called to my consideration the present danger of our owne State except some course were speed●ly taken to bring to light these concealed proiects of that Societie which now wee may be assured they haue in agitation against vs of this Nation in generall and of this City more in particuler Which thing I haue not found any so ready a way to performe to the best of mine vnderstanding as by propounding vnto our Nation a president of their practises of late yeeres Vt exemplo alieno discamus that we may see by their dealings with others what measures our selues may in all probability expect from them This president you shall find in this following discourse wherein you may see as in a perfect Mirror their Consultations for the disturbing of the States of Germany taken aboue XX. yeeres agoe their plottes vpon the particular Electors and seuerall Princes discouered to that Nation before their Councels were brought into Action had that Nation beene either so wise or so happy as to haue taken notice thereof in time and to haue extirpated that brood of Vipers before they were grown vp to Maturity All which I haue thought it my bounden duty to divulge for the good of our Nation that being forewarned they may arme themselues in time against the growing Mischiefes and to Dedicate more particularly this part thereof to your Worships in