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A40885 The narrative of Segnior Francisco de Faria, interpreter and secretary of languages unto Gasper de Abrev de Freitas, late Ambassador in Ordinary from the crown of Portugal, to His Most Sacred Majesty of England wherein is contained the several informations given upon oath before the Right Honourable the Lords Committees, for examinations touching the horrid Popish Plot, and reported to the Lords spiritual and temporal in Parliament assembled, and afterwords to the Commons of England in Parliament assembled. Faria, Francisco de, b. 1653. 1680 (1680) Wing F426; ESTC R7380 21,930 46

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in the least danger or Jeopardy The further INFORMATION of Francisco de Faria upon Oath before me Edmund Warcupp Esq one of his Majesties Justices of the Peace in the said County and City this Day of December 1680. Mid. and West THis Informant being duely Sworn and Examined saith that in the Month of July 1679 when Sir George Wakeman Baronet William Marshal and William Rumley Gentlemen and James Corker the Priest were Tryed in the Old Bayly he employed one Mr. Cooper by Order of his Master Gasper de Abreu de Frietas Ambassador in Ordinary from the Crown of Portugal to take in Writing the said Tryals which he did and the said Trials were transcribed and afterwards read and interpreted unto the said Ambassador who seemed to be exceedingly displeased with Mr. Marshal for so over-doing his Defence in regard said he the said Mr. Marshal was well assured before hand he should not be Condemn'd and in these long Speeches said he he hath too much reflected on the Innocency of them that had already Suffered and took too much No tree of the Blood already shed by which he endanger'd the s●oning of the whole Business by exasperating the Court and Jury against them all That some time after the said Trials there was a report about the Court and City that Articles were coming out against the Lord Chief Justice Scroggs upon which the said Ambassador told this Informant he would give fifty Guinneys to have a Copy of them before they were made publick That some time before the Ambassador acquainted this Informant that he intended to send to Portugal for his Lady and that this Informant should be her Gentleman Usher and also continue in his present Capacity of Secretary and Interpreter That the said Ambassador did in order thereto furnish his House and one Day being very intent upon Work Men who were putting up some Tapestry Hangings a very large Pacquet of Letters was brought his Excellency by Doctor Mendex one of the Queens Majesties Physitians which he had no sooner read but he acquainted this Informant that he must forthwith go for Portugal to which this Informant answered that he much wondred at it and was not a little surprised to hear it especially in regard that his Excellency being Ambassador in Ordinary must then leave the Ambassadage Extraordinary behind him a thing unusual But his Excellency answered this Informant that he must go and that immediately and would leave Orders to sell his Coach and Horses and other things after he was gone This Informant still pressing the Reasons of so sudden a Departure was by the said Ambassador answered that otherwise he thought he should be called before the King and Counsel upon the Lord Scroggs his account and added Francis you must then go also but I charge you not to say that you went to the said Lord Scroggs from me that Fryday on which Sir George Wakeman was Tried but that you went on your own head and that you went to him from me on the Saturday after only for God above knows what we do is for the Catholick Cause and that God below pointing to his Chappel which was under his Chamber in which we then were will pardon us and justify us in what we do At which time there being a rumour that the Earl of Ossory was to go for Madrid to complement that King upon his Marriage and that he would Embarque for Lisbon and go thence by Land to Madrid the Ambassador said he would go with him But he then again further charged this Informant to say if he should happen to be examined before the Council that the Ambassador sent him and went himself to the Lord Chief Justice Scroggs by a Mistake as looking on him to be a publick Minister of State Whereupon this Informant having alwayes great Freedom of Discourse with the said Ambassador asked his Lordship his reasons and why his Lordship did direct him to say in that manner touching the Lord Chief Justice Scroggs and his Lordship thereupon answered him in the Portuguese Language with a Proverb of that Countrey in these words Chen es muy curioso novive muto which in English is He that is over curious never liveth long Whereupon this Informant thought fit to forbear any further Questions in that Matter promising to obey his Lordships Command about the said Lord Chief Justice Scroggs And this Informant saith that he well remembers that this Discourse was on the last Lord Mayors Day was twelve Months And this Informant saith that at the time when his Majesty was ill at Windsor this Informant being in Discourse with the said Ambassador did ask his Lordship what should be done with the Queen in Case his Majesty should tben die which God forbid he should who answered that so soon as his Majesties Eyes were closed the Marquess de Aronches Extraordinary Ambassador or else himself would immediately go with her Majesty to Calais and her Majesty being by one of them thus secured the other should stay here and then England should be treated with to restore Tangeir and the rest of her Majesties Dowry vvhich he said was the reason that two Ambassadors were here at one time for said he should the King die the Queen would be imprisoned and punished or made a Slave in England and we come not hither to repeat his own words Nos non v●m●● para ●nsi●ar perlos to thread Pearl but to take care of her Safety Francisco de Faria And this Informant further saith That the Ambassador one day asked him if he knew Dugdale To which he answered That he knew none of the Witnesses Then the Ambassador said Dugdale is a Rogue because he would not accept the money that was offered him by a Chambermaid For if he had taken the money he might have gon beyond Sea and might there have lived happy and been adored for that our Church will forgive all that repent The Ambassador further added at that time that Burgomanero the Spanish Ambassador was a great Friend of the said Chambermaids and that the said Burgomonero would be examined before the Council about that Matter as he thought And this Informant further saith That the Ambassador his Master after he came home one night from Court with great Joy said That Villain Shaftsbury is put out of the Council and now we must have his Blood calling this Informant Dunce and Blockhead that he should be at White-Hall and not hear it before And this Informant further saith That at one other time discoursing of Mr. Coleman that was Executed he said If ever any Man was Guilty that died Coleman was and therefore could not ever be Canonized for a Saint because of the Guilt but he might be Absolved And this Informant further saith That at the time when the Duke of Monmouths Cook accused Segnior Antonio Farnandez belonging to the Queens Confessor for somwhat said by him or to him about the four Ruffians at Windsor after he had given
glass of Wine with him which this Informant consented unto and went out of the Coffee-House with him and desired him to go to the Rose-Tavern in Bridges-Street but he desired to go farther At the Horse-Shoe Tavern this Informant desired the said Wyard to go in thither But he there desired to go farther and so drilled this Informant on into Grays-Inn Walks Which this Informant consented to And in Discourse he there told this Informant that this Informant had his Fortune in his hand This Informant ask'd him In What The said Wyard replied He knew my wants If you will but Cudgel a man you shall have 200l One Hundred in hand and the other Hundred when the Work or Business is done To which this Informant replied That that might be done by a Porter for a Shilling To which the said Wyard replied You may believe by the sum that is offered that there is some thing more to be done besides Cudgelling And when you have done you shall have a better Reward To which this Informant replied He scorned such unworthy and base Proposals and utterly refused to treat with him about it Then the said Wyard desired this Informant to go and speak with the Lord Powis in the Tower To which this Informant answered That he had no business with the Lord Powis nor the Lord Powis any with him as he knew of Who then shewed this Informant a letter from the Lord Powis to this Informant which Letter was to this effect Mr. de Faria Come to me to the Tower and speak with me but let no body know who you are The said Mr. Wyard when he found this Informant utterly refused to go to the Lord Powis or to treat in the said business any farther the said Wyard then told this Informant He would meet this Informant in the same place on the morrow and would then bring this Informant a Letter from a Person of Quality whose hand this Informant did well know and that this Informant had Papers then in his pocket under the said Persons hand And on the morrow the said Wyard did meet this Informant in the said place and then shewed him a Letter writ in the Portugueze Language which contained these words being into English Translated Francis Do what this Man bids you for it shall be well done Subscribed Gasper de Abreu de Freitas And this Informant farther sayeth That he knew the Hand and did compare it with some Papers he had then in his Pocket signed by the same Hand But notwithstanding the said Letter this Informant utterly refused to treat about the said Business any farther The said Wyard then desired this Informant to meet him the next Day again and took his leave And this Informant being desirous to know who the said Wyard was and where he lay followed the said Wyard down Chancery-Lane and into Cursitors Alley and into several turnings but lost sight of him And the next day this Informant went to the same place to meet the said Wyard but the said Wyard came not nor could this Informant ever since find the said Wyard or hear of him though he had made a great and general Enquiry after him But saith He could know him again if he could see him And farther this Informant sayeth That he the same day declared unto one Monsieur Camas that he was offered 200 l. to Cudgel a Man And also saith That being apprehensive that he might be called in Question after Mr. Arnold was assaulted the said Monseiur Camas having charged him with it and with receiving of the same 200 l. This Informant went to the Right Honourable the Earl of Clarendon about the first day of May and desired his Honour to take his Information in Writing this Informant being to go into Flanders which the said Earl did and this Informant set his Hand to it And farther at present sayeth not Signed Francisco de Faria Jurat corum me Phillip Mathews 15 July 1680. This first Information only was sworn before Sir Phillip Mathews Francisco de Faria THE INFORMATION OF FRANCISCO DE FARIA Born in America Son of John de Faria of St. Giles in the Field Gent. Taken upon Oath before 〈◊〉 Edmond Warcupp Esquire one of his Majesties Justices of Peace in the said County and City in presence of John Arnold Esquire by Command of the Right Honorable the Lords Committees for Discovery of the late Popish Plot. 26. Octob. 1680. THis Informant saith that being a Limner in Antwerp in Flanders in the year 1675 by the Perswasion of three of the Sisters of Sir George Wakeman then in the Nunnery of St. Teresia and of Father Worsely a Jesuit he became a Roman Catholick and often communicated at his hand And the said Warsely then perswaded this Informant to come into England and he would make this Informant happy and then gave this Informant 35 Pistels in Gold to bear this Informants Charges for England But this Informant did not immediately follow him to England but took up Arms and was Captain Lieutenant under Colonel Montgomery in the Prince of Orange's Service where he practised to make and throw hand-Granadoes and grew to some Note for that Service and in the Year 1678 this Informant being in England and well versed in seven or eight Languages was preferred to be Interpreter and Secretary of Languages to Gasper de Abreu de Freitas Ambassador in Ordinary from the Prince of Portugal to the King of England To which Ambassador this Informant had been known for many Years before and the said Ambassador among other things acquainted this Informant that Don Francisco de Melot the late Ambassador that died here was much out of Favour with the Prince of Portugal for that he had indiscreetly pushed on the Promotion of the Catholick Religion before a due time and had Caused several Popish Books to be printed in England which had given too great an alarm with many other things relating to the Popish Religion which he greatly condemned him for and the said Ambassador to indear this Informant did often give him Mony and intrust him in Affairs of the greatest Moment and carried this Informant with him to all or most of the great Ministers of State in England using him for his interpreter and employing this Informant to resort to several Persons for an account of the Orders and Passages in the Kings Council of all which the said Ambassador usually had an account within an hour after the rising of the Council or any Committees And the said Ambassador much about the time of the Tryal of the five Jesuits expressing a great Sorrow for the Oppression of the Catholicks did w●●● that Oats and Bedlow were made away and then commanded this Informant to go to Mass and Confession and then told this Informant that he might do the Catholick Cause great Service and might make his own Fortune if he would join in destroying Oats and Bedlow and that 50000 Reales d'occi● should be given for that
to take in writing the Trial and gave him 20 s for his pains which this Informant delivered to the Ambassador who immediately sent it to the Queen then at Windsor vvith vvhich and a Letter this Informant should have gone to Windsor had he not been very weary And that same Night this Informant vvas sent to Sir George Wakemans in St. Martins-Lane to complement him on the Ambassadors part but he vvas not then come to his Lodging in St. Martins-Lane So this Informant vvent next Morning and found him in Bed vvith his Wife and as this Informant vvas commanded told him from the Ambassador That his Fortune and Estate vvas at his Service and so vvas his Princes and the Prayers of the good Catholicks have prevailed for your delivery and we are all bound to Sir Philip Loyd for his Generosity to you at the Tryal and we are all bound to pray for him Whereunto Sir George Wakeman replied If it had not been for him I had not been saved and so we are all bound to pray for him And I pray return my Lord many thanks for his Offers and that he would wait on his Excellency that very day to give him thanks for his Favours but that he must first go to Windsor to wait on the Queen but at his Return he would wait on his Excellency And Sir George then took this Informant by the hand and said I am sorry Mr. Faria that I had not the happiness to speak with you before For I am Informed what a Man you are and that you could do great Service for the Catholicks But alas it is now too late Thence this Informant went again by Order to the Lord Chief Justice Scroggs to know when my Lord Ambassador should Visit him The Lord Scroggs answered That the Ambassador would do him great Honour to Visit him but he was that day to go out of Town by One of the Clock Wherewith the Ambassador being acquainted he went about Twelve in his Sedan with a Coach of State wherein this Informant was to the Lord Scroggs's in Chancery-Lane The ●●…mplement was in Porugueze and this Informant Interpreted to this effect My Lord I come to Vi●●… you as you are a Minister of State and am sent as Ambassador from the Prince of Portugal to the King of Great Britain and am directed to Visit you and am likewise to thank you for the Justice you have done Yesterday to Sir George Wakeman To which the Lord Scroggs answered I am placed to do Justice and will not be curbed by the Vulgar and so I thank your Prince and yourself for the great Honour you have done me And his Informant father saith That a Portugueze came to him when the Earl of Ossory was to go for Tangeir offering this Informant that he might go with the said Earl as his Interpreter and should have 300 l. per Annum for his pains But this Informant reflecting That the Sum offered was too big for that Service believed this was a Snare to take away his Life The same Portugueze afterwards offered him to go for Planders where Monsieuer Fonsec might prefer him to the Prince of Prama But he looked upon that as a Snare also and therefore refused And this Informant saith that about six Months ago he was assaulted by two unknown Persons with then Swords drawn but he happily escaped from them And further sayeth not Francisco de Faria Colonel Warcupp having taken this Information carryed me a second time to the Lords of the Committee before whom I again attested and Justifyed upon Oath what I had Sworn before the Justice of Peace the 〈◊〉 also observing what I had said concerning Mr. Sauer and Mrs. Seare Commanded the Colonel to take the Examinations likewise which was accordingly done next day and the Depositions carryed up to the Lords who found them agreeable to my Information and this was n● so 〈◊〉 Confirmation of the Truth of what I had Sworn the Depositions Coppied from the Originals in the Hands of the Clerk of the Lords House are these that follow Midd. and Westr The INFORMATION of Richard Salter of St. Clement Danes Milliner taken this 27th of October 1680. before me Edmund Warcupp Esquire one of his Majesties Justices of the Peace in the said County and City by the Command of the Lords Committee of Examination of the late Popish Plot. THis Informant sayeth that Francisco de Faria was as this Informant heard Interpreter to the Portugal Ambassador about February last past at which time he asked this Informant whether he would carry a Letter into Flanders whereunto this Informant replyed he would send a Letter by the Post but Mr. Faria answered he must send it by a Messenger express and himself was suddenly to follow after it and he choose this Informant to carry the Letter because this Informant knew the Country having been there before and could also speak the Language And he proffered this Informant ten Pounds for the Voyage but this Informant refused to go because he had three Horses upon his Hand and one of them was lame but Mr. Faria seemed unsatisfyed with this Informants denyal and added many Prayers and Importunities to his Proffer of the ten Pound but could not prevail and this Informant well remembers that he saw the said Mr. Faria in some kind of Frensical and Melancholy Fitts and threw himself upon the Floor about the Month of March last past and this Informant helped to hold him up and further sayeth not Richard Salter Jurat Die Anno supra dictum coram me Edmond Warcupp The INFORMATION of Mrs. Mary S●alies taken upon Oat● the Day aforementioned by the Command of the said Lords Committee THis informant sayeth That Monseiuer Francisco de Faria about the Months of February and March last past came several times to his Lodgings very Melancholly and disturbed and sometimes was in Frenzical Fitts and in his Sleep and Frenzy would often cry out upon Murderers and did sometimes call out naming Oats and Bedlow and sometimes the Ambassador and once cryed pitty my youthfull Dayes my Lord which Disturbance this Informant observing did at length prevail with him to tell her what the Matter was and he then told her there was a Design to kill Oats and Bedlow and Shaftsbury and a Country Gentleman but who it was he could not tell whereupon this Informant told him there was a great deal of danger in knowing of it and this Informant then perswaded him to say nothing of it lest he fell into Danger and if he should discover it he should get no Credit by it but would be looked upon as a Knave as Oats and Bedlow were by the Company his Informant kept Company with and this Informant did really fear he would come by some Mischief when ever he went abroad and therefore desired him when ever he stayed out late to send this Informant word where he was which he usually did and he charged this Informant to declare if