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55._o be_v yet_o more_o plain_a against_o he_o arbour_n enim_fw-la quaedam_fw-la in_o navi_fw-la est_fw-la crux_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la quae_fw-la inter_fw-la totius_fw-la saeculi_fw-la blanda_fw-la &_o perniciosa_fw-la naufragia_fw-la incolumis_fw-la sola_fw-la seruatur_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la ergo_fw-la navi_fw-la quisquis_fw-la aut_fw-la arbori_fw-la crucis_fw-la se_fw-la religaverie_n aut_fw-la aures_fw-la svas_fw-la scripturit_fw-la divinis_fw-la clauserit_fw-la dulcem_fw-la procellam_fw-la luxuriae_fw-la non_fw-la timebit_fw-la for_o the_o cross_n in_o the_o church_n be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a tree_n in_o a_o ship_n which_o among_o y_fw-es e_fw-es flatter_a &_o pernicious_a shipwreck_n of_o y_fw-fr e_o whole_a world_n alone_o be_v preserve_v in_o safety_n in_o this_o ship_n therefore_o who_o so_o ever_o shall_v either_o bind_v himself_o to_o you_o â—_o three_fw-mi of_o the_o cross_n or_o stop_v his_o ear_n with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n he_o shall_v not_o fear_v the_o sweet_a storm_n of_o luxuriousnesse_n etc._n etc._n he_o allude_v to_o the_o fable_n of_o ulysses_n which_o tie_v himself_o to_o the_o mast_n and_o stop_v his_o ear_n with_o wax_n that_o he_o may_v not_o hear_v the_o song_n of_o the_o mermaid_n this_o sentence_n whereof_o martial_a dare_v cite_v but_o three_o or_o four_o word_n declare_v that_o his_o author_n make_v nothing_o for_o the_o title_n of_o this_o article_n of_o erect_v the_o cross_n in_o church_n chapel_n etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o when_o all_o be_v do_v i_o must_v confess_v with_o the_o learned_a that_o these_o sermon_n be_v not_o write_v by_o s._n ambrose_n but_o by_o one_o maximus_n of_o latter_a time_n bishop_n either_o of_o taurinum_n or_o of_o milan_n concern_v the_o tale_n that_o you_o father_n upon_o sir_n ambrose_n