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A11788 A true souldiers councel; Experimentall discoverie of Spanish practises. Hexham, Henry, 1585?-1650?, attributed name.; Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626, attributed name. 1624 (1624) STC 22078; ESTC S114763 30,552 55

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but think us all one people then how can we imagine that these people haue freely given themselues to the Spanish obedience and acknowledge him for their Lord and King when they never so much as heard that there was such a man or Nation Againe from Capi culli formia all the land that runneth and maketh the stange of Anian and the Netherlands therof whose bounds and limits are never discovered the Spanyard hath not so much as once seated himselfe to make himselfe known whereby there might bee any likelyhood that they had acknowledged him for their Soveraign And for us to beleeu that the Spanyard is Lord of such whom he hath never seen nor known nor they him were a manifest sign of a strong faith in us And there were no way for any man to make me beleeue Miracles sooner then by making me beleeue this for after the beliefe of this I should never doubt of any miracle though he should tell me a thousand in a day So that if this title come not by consent of all in generall he neither ought to write himselfe Lord of the whole Indies nor debar other Christians from conquering or trading in those parts where the Spanyard hath neither residence nor Seigniory nor command If he challenge right by conquest and consent then must he claim no more then he hath by conquest and consent obtained As for example all that part of the West Indies which at this day is scatteringly inhabited by the Spanyards and Portugals is almost contained in two Tropicks excepting the two small Villages of Saint Augustine and Helena in Florida the Province of new Biscay Northwards and fiue Villages or Townes neere the River of Plate called Sancto Sprinto Saint Anna the Citie of Ascension Saint Fee and Fuvirnan lyeth halfe way betwixt the mouth of the river of Plate and the Mine of Polossie and in the South Sea beyond the Tropick in the Kingdome of Chelix the Townes or Villages of Coquenbo Persco Saint Iago la impe villa del Lago And therfore if the Spanyards haue nothing to doe any further either to the Northward or to the Southward what reason hath he to forbid any Nation to conquer or dwell there But if hee should admit you I think it not convenient that your Majesty should be so satisfied for so should you doe your selfe and other Christian Princes great wrong for his Townes and Castles are so divided and such masses of land and Kingdome betwixt them which he hath no right nor dare to enter as being duely considered by your Majestie hee ought not to claime no more then he ought to claime the Kingdome of France because his Fort of Graueling is of one side and South Arabia on the other France being in the midst between them or to claime France because his Frontiers in Italy bound it on the one side and Spaine on the other or to claime the Iland of the Venetians and the Turks in Levant for that Cicilia and Sardinia and a few others belong to him that stands in that sea Or claime all the Ilands or Shoares in Barbarie for that he hath a Castle or two in the Straits and another in Libia These Countries they never lay claime to because they are in the eye of the Christian world which would make us rise up in Armes against them for their foolish arrogancy if they should pretend it But in the unknown parts which haue been familiar unto us whose light by the iniquity of the time and troublesome warres in these parts haue to us been hidden although to the Ancient well known where they began their foolerie Betwixt the Castle of Argiue in Libia and the Iland of Macoa in the river of Canton in the Kingdom of China the foolish Portugals say all is theirs when many a hundred Kings as absolute and powerfull in regard of people as any King in these parts dwelleth betwixt and admit the Portugals by way of petition or bribes to dwell in some place by the Sea side and trafique with them neither dare they lay claim to any Kingdome but onely to such Fortresses Factories and Villages on the Sea side as perforce and favour of the Iland they are permitted to dwell in as most excellently appeareth by answer of Charles the fifth made unto the Embassadours of Portugal anno 1522 when they came to require and beseech him that his subjects the Spanyards might not trade nor commerce as then they did in the conquest or navigation of the Portugals who after a most peremptory and noble answer of his part told them he knew no reason neither would he suffer them that his subjects should be prohibited freely to passe into any Country where the hope of gain offereth it selfe and that if the Portugals in the cause of their Trade should doe any violence to any of his people either in their persons or goods he would be revenged neerer home meaning upon the Kingdom of Portugal With which answer at that time the Lucitans were forced to depart Which answer if it should please your Majestie to returne upon the Castilians themselues at this time I know no reason how it can any way be bettered having so good a president as their own King against the Portugals upon the same subject But for the Portugals where all their strength is seated I mean upon the coast of Malubor where they haue more Fortes and Castles then in all India besides the Kings doe so pen and lock them up in their Garrisons and Fortes as they can haue nothing the Countrie yeeldeth but by their friendship procured by yearly bribes As for example to the King of Cathaie they pay an yearly tribute of 256000 Reis to the King of Pimenta .. Reis to the mother of the King of Pimenta yearly 36000 Reis to the King of Pargnan yearly 72000 to the King of Manfata yearly 72000 Reis To Carto Babua the proper name of a man of account upon that coast an yearely tribute of 42000 Reis to the Teratates which are brethren and Kings an yearly tribute of 72000 Reis All which summes or tribute are imposed upon the King and Custome of goods brought from these parts As for their credit and reputation amongst these Heathens it is so small either for feare they haue of them or loue they bear to them that when we and the Hollanders pay no custome for goods bought and sold there they make the Portugals pay 30 per hundred we going free before their faces and they paying before ours By this your Majestie may well perceiue what base account the Princes in those parts make of them there and yet these vain-glorious Woodcoks will be very angry with us if we will not beleeue when they say that all the East Indies is theirs and they haue conquered it In selfe manner most renowmed Soveraign stand the Kings of the West Indies with the Spanyards both in the South sea upon the Kingdom of Cheley Reta Peru and others as at