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A11786 An Experimentall discoverie of Spanish practises, or, The Counsell of a well-wishing souldier, for the good of his prince and state wherein is manifested from known experience, both the cruelty, and policy of the Spaniard, to effect his own ends : chiefly swelling with multiplicity of glorious titles, as one of the greatest monarchs of the earth, that being admired of all, his greatnesse might amaze all, and so by degrees seeking covertly to tyrannize over all, when as indeed and truth, the greatest part of his pretended greatnesse is but a windy crack of an ambitious minde. Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626.; Hexham, Henry, 1585?-1650? 1623 (1623) STC 22077; ESTC S1713 30,960 58

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you againe and therefore saith he if he had given all these Kingdomes to Christ the Kings of the earth to whom by right they did pertaine would never haue suffered him to haue injoyed them And so for that For the earth is the Lords and all that dwell therin he founded and prepared it as in the Psalmist and so consequently neither the Popes nor the diuils doe dispose to whom they please The copie of which foolish donation of the Popes truely translated out of the originall hath beene delivered to your Majestie long since and I hope perused before this time To proue that he hath no generall consent of all the people and Nations of the Indies appeareth most evidently by this reason for that no Spaniard farther inhabiteth northward then Florida where they haue but two little Forts or Villages the one called S. Austine the other S. Helena All the rest of that hugh tract whose infinitenesse is such as no mortall tongue can expresse nor eye hath seene doe not so much as think there is another world but that they themselues inhabite except some few of them which dwell vpon the edges of the shore that sometimes see both us the French the Dutch and the Spaniard when we come a fishing but are not able to distinguish of us but thinke us all one people then how can we imagine that these people haue freely given themselues to the Spanish obedience and acknowledge him for their Lord and King when they never so much as heard that there was such a man or Nation Againe from Capi culli formia all the land that tunneth-and maketh the strange of Anian and the Netherlands thereof whose bounds and limits are never discovered the Spanyard hath not so much as once seated himselfe to make himselfe knowne whereby there might bee any likelyhood that they had acknowledged him for their Soveraigne And for us to beleeue that the Spaniard is Lord of such whom he hath never seen nor knowen nor they him were a manifest signe of a strong faith in us And there were no way for any man to make me beleeue Miracles sooner then by making me beleeue this for after the beliefe of this I should never doubt of any miracle though he should tell me a thousand in a day So that if this title come not by consent of all in generall he neither ought to write himselfe Lord of the whole Indies nor debar other Christians from conquering or trading in those parts where the Spanyard hath neither residence nor Seigniory nor command If he challenge right by conquest and consent then must he claime no more then he hath by conquest and consent obtained As for example all that part of the West Indies which at this day is scatteringly inhabited by the Spanyards Portugals is almost contained in two Tropicks excepting the two small Villages of Saint Augustine and Helena in Florida the Prouince of new Biscay Northwards and fiue Villages or Townes neere the River of Plate called Sancto Sprinto Saint Anna the Citie of Ascension Saint Fee and Fuvirnan lyeth halfe way betwixt the mouth of the river of Plate and the Mine of Polossie and in the South Sea beyond the Tropick in the Kingdome of Chelix the Townes or Villages of Coquenbo Persco Saint Iago la impe villae del Lago And therefore if the Spaniards haue nothing to do any further either on the Northward or to the Southward what reason hath he to forbid any Nation to conquer or dwell there But if hee should admit you I thinke it not convenient that your Majestie should be so satisfied for so should you doe your selfe and other Christian Princes great wrong for his Townes and Castles are so divided and such masses of land and Kingdom betwixt them which he hath no right nor dare to enter as being duely considered by your Majestie hee ought not to claime no more then he ought to claime the Kingdome of France because his Fort of Graueling is of oneside and South Arabia on the other France being in the midst betweene them or to claime France because his Frontiers in Italy bound it on the one side and Spaine on the other or to claime the Iland of the Venetians and the Turks in Levant for that Cicilia and Sardinia and a few others belong to him that stands in that Sea Or claime all the Ilands or Shoares in Barbaric for that he hath a Castle or two in the Straits and another in Libia These Countries they never lay claime to because they are in the eye of the Christian world which would make us rise up in Armes against them for their foolish arrogancy if they should pretend it But in the unknowne parts which haue been familiar unto us whose light by the iniquity of the time and troublesome warres in these parts haue to us beene hidden although to the Ancient well knowne where they began their foolerie Betwixt the Castle of Argiue in Libia and the Iland of Macoa in the river of Canton in the Kingdome of China the foolish Portugals say all is theirs when many a hundred Kings as absolute and powerfull in regard of people as any King in these parts dwelleth betwixt and admit the Portugals by way of petition or bribes to dwell in some place by the Sea side and trafique with them neither dare they lay claime to any Kingdome but onely to such Fortresses Factories and Villages on the Sea side as perforce and favour of the Iland they are admitted to dwell in as most excellently appeareth by answere of Charles the fifth made unto the Embassadours of Portugal anno 1522 when they came to require and beseech him that his subjects the Spaniards might not trade nor commerce as thon they did in the conquest or navigation of the Portugals who after a most peremptory and noble answer of his part told them he knew no reason neither would he suffer them that his subjects should be prohibited freely to passe into any country where the hope of gain offereth it selfe and that if the Portugals in the cause of their Trade should doe any violence to any of his people either in their persons or goods he would be revenged neerer home meaning upon the Kingdome of Portugal With which answer at that time the Lucitans were forced to depart Which answer if it should please your Majestie to returne upon the Castilians themselues at this time I know no reason how it can any way be bettered having so good a president as their owne King against the Portugals upon the same subiect But for the Portugals where all their strength is seated I meane upon the coast of Malubor where they haue more Forts and Castles then in all India besides the Kings doe so pen and locke them vp in their Garrisons and Forts as they can haue nothing the Countrie yeeldeth but by their friendship procured by yearly bribe As for example to the King of Cathaie they pay an yearly tribute of