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A07567 Minucius Felix his dialogne [sic] called Octavius Containing a defence of Christian religion. Translated by Richard Iames of C.C.C. Oxon.; Octavius. English Minucius Felix, Marcus.; James, Richard, 1592-1638. 1636 (1636) STC 17953; ESTC S112688 38,739 185

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Admetus Neptune builds the wals of Troy for Laomedon and vnhappy workeman hee cannot get his hire There Vulcan vpon his anvile beates out thunder for Iupiter and armour for Aeneas when heaven and thunder and lightning were long before ever Iupiter was borne in Creete such as that one-eyed Vulcan could never imitate and Iupiter himselfe must ever feare What shall I speake of Mars and Venus taken in adultery and the rape of Jupiter vpon Ganimed● consecrated in heaven All which things seeme to bee produced that men may haue authority for their vices With such like inventions and sweeter lyes the dispositions of youth are corrupted on these fables they stay and grow vp to a perfect age and in these opinions they miserably dye when truth is more easily found but of those who seeke it For all the writers of auncient times both Greeke and Latin haue deliuered that this Saturne Prince of all the fabulous genealogie was a man Nepos and Cassius in their history know this and Thallus and Diodorus speake it Hee for feare of his Sonnes rage fled from Creete and came into Jtaly and being hospitally entertained by Ianus taught many things to those ignorant country people as being a pretty polisht Greeke to write by Alphabet to coyne mony to make many sorts of instruments And because he had here safely lurkt hee pleased to call this hiding place Latium He gaue them a city called Saturnia by his owne name and Ianus left them his Ianiculum for which they are both remembred with posterity Therefore when he so fled and lurkt out of the way surely he was both the father of a man and a mans sonne and amongst the Jtalians cald a sonne of heauen and of earth because he was to them of vnknowne parents as at this day when we see people suddenly come and we know not from whence we say they come from heauen or obscure ignoble commers we doe terme sonnes of the earth This Saturnes sonne hauing drouen his father out of Creete raignd there died there and had children there Iupiters caue is there yet to be seene and they shew his sepulcher and many of their holy rites convince his mortality T is idle to goe through all the singularity and rablement of these Deities in a like narration when mortality proovd vpon their first parents must of necessity fall on the rest by order of succession except perchance you will faine them to be Gods after their death as Romulus is a God by the periurie of Proculus and t is the kind pleasure of the Moores to haue Iuba be a God and other Kings are Gods which are consecrated into Deitie not because the people belieued so but to dismisse them with honour from their office of kings craft And many times these are made Gods against their will they would rather stay in a mortality they are afeard to be made Gods and although they be never so old they would never willingly be such Gods therfore of those that die none be Gods because God cannot dye and no Gods are borne because every thing must die that is borne and that only is divine which hath neither birth nor death And if there were gods borne why are not some borne in out dayes except Iupiter be now waxed old and Iuno hath left off teeming And can Minerva grow gray headed before she hath had children Or is all this generation of Gods passed and gone because people no longer assent vnto their fables But if Gods could be borne and not die we should haue more Gods then men the heauens would not now bee large enough to containe them the ayre could not receiue nor the earth beare their multitudes Whence it is manifest that they were men whose births we read and whose deaths we know When therefore the common people doe pray vnto their consecrate images and worshippe them who doubts but that ignorant opinion is here deceiud with the beauty of the worke dazeld with the bright glittering lustre of gold and siluer and besotted on the faire whitenes of the Iron But if a man conceiue in his minde with what torments and engines euerie image is formd he will shame to feare that matter which is so misusd by the artificer before he can make it a God For the wodden God a peice perchance of some vnhappy poste or fireblocke is hung vp cut squard and hewed the brazen or siluer God as it was often done by the Aegiptian king is made out of some vncleane vessell knockt with hammers brought into figure vpon the anvill and the God of stone is againe hewed scrapd and made smooth by some impure vicious man These feele not the iniury of their natiuity nor the honour of your worshippe Or perchance this stone this wood this siluer is not yet a God When then shall they be They are now cemented set together set vp is there yet no God They haue their ornament their consecration they are praied too So at last a God is made when any man pleases to giue these statues a dedication Dumbe creatures how much more truely doe they by nature esteeme of your Gods Mice Swallowes Kites they know these Gods haue no feeling they nibble them get on top set on them if you driue them not away they make nests in the very mouth of your God Spiders weaue cobwebbes about their face they hang this worke on their heades you wipe cleanse and rubbe all of And these Gods which you make you protect and feare whilest none of you will consider that you ought to know God before you worship him whilest men reioyce to obey their parents vnreasonably whilest they had rather follow a common errour then belieue themselues whilest they know nothing of that they feare So hath covetousnesse a consecration in gold and silver so come idle statues to finde their forme with you so growes the Romane superstition whose rights if you runne through how many things are there of laughter and more of pitty In the cold shriveling winter some course vp and downe naked some goe capt after a strange manner carrying about on their shoulders targets on some slash their skins and from streete to streete leade their Gods a begging You may not see some temples but once in the yeare some not at all some are not permitted to men some are sacred from women Some holy ceremonies must be solemnized and crowned by a woman that knowes but one man some by a common woman she is with great religious enquiry sought for which can number the most adulteries Why hee who makes libation with his owne blood and supplicates with wounds might he not be better prophane then religious in such manner And hee that cuts off his virilities with a shard were hee not better violate the Gods then so please them When if God would haue Eunuchs hee should not need your making but might finde out a way of procreation for them Who doth not by this vnderstand that if