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A43112 Animadversions upon a late quibling libel from the Hartford Quakers, stiled, A testimony for the man Christ Jesus demonstrating that it is not the same true and real man Christ Jesus that they give testimony unto, but another false and feigned Jesus, or, A fresh and fuller draught of the same antidote, against the poyson presented in the whores golden cup / by Will. Haworth. Haworth, William. 1676 (1676) Wing H1194; ESTC R19450 28,927 32

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nature with that which he had before his Resurrection for it appears evidently that was not such a Manhood why then if it be not the same in kind and Nature it cannot be the same in Number 3. The third thing as to the matter of Charge viz. That this same Manhood is now in Heaven a place remote so circumscribed there that it is not here on Earth this they openly deny in so many words Pag. 6. But his conclusion i. e. is denyed by the connexion it appears that therefore Jesus Christ is not here on Earth as he is Man but as to his Manhood only in Heaven a place remote from us and in many other places of the Book you shall find the like They do clearly affirm that Jesus Christ is present on Earth in and with his Saints as to his soul The Papists say in their monstrous opinion of Transubstantiation that the natural Humane body of Christ can be and is in an hundred nay a thousand several places at once So these that the soul of Jesus is in innumerable places at once Thus every whit of the matter of Charge stands good against them and I have brought them in as witnesses against themselves whilst they did pretend to the weak people to vindicate themselves Now do not they that deny these three things mentioned plainly deny Jesus Nazareth to be the Messiah which they say Pag. 4. is the other part of the Charge if Jesus Christ hath not the self same true and real Manhood which he took of the Virgin and which dwelt here on Earth at that place called Nazareth then is not Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah according to the Quakers For his name was called Jesus as he was born of the Virgin Mat. 1.21 And she shall bring forth as Son and thou shalt call his Name Jesus and that adjunct of Nazareth is given because of his habitation in those parts Mat. 2.23 And he came and dwelt in a City called Nazareth that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Prophets He shall be called a Nazarene But these people now it 's plain the mask being pull'd off deny that Manhood that was taken of the Virgin and dwelt at Nazareth in that they do suppose it so changed that it 's turned into an Immense infinite Being a Deity which that Manhood was not Let them but remember that Scripture John 8.24 Except you believe that I am he ye shall die in your sins and if they write again fairly take off these things that I have briefly brought against them Let us now hear throughout the Book what they have to say for themselves that they are not guilty of denying the Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven The first thing produced is W. Pens confession at Barbakin Pag. 4. W. P. speaks in the name of the Quakers thus we do believe the Man Christ Jesus to be glorified in Heaven we do believe the holy Manhood to be in Heavenly Glory they add see how far the Quakers are from denying the true and real Manhood of Christ in Heaven Some that are not acquainted with their way of speaking may think this sufficient but others that have been used to them cannot till W. Pen doth describe what he means by the Man Christ Jesus and what by the Manhood whether it is such a Manhood as hath a Humane soul and body as its essential parts For G. Fox in his great Mystery Pag. 286. hath these words the Man may speak Christ in the Male and in the Female W. P. then in the name of all the Quakers may mean such a man is Jesus Christ as is in every Male and Female Preacher that is nothing but the light within Fox again hath another passage Pag. 71. Christ's nature is not bumane which is earthly for that is the first Adam's This man Christ that W. P. confesseth in the name of all the Quakers may be such as hath no Humane nature such a man as never had a nature that was of an Earthly substance such a man as came not of Adam's race and line but we always thought and believed that the Manhood was such which is Christs nature as properly as his Divine nature Again nothing more obvious in our discourses with them than that Heaven is within them I have heard it in discourse with them What doth all this brave sound of words in this Confession at Barbican come to why this is the sum of it when he saith we believe the Man Christ to be glorified in Heaven and the holy Manhood to be in heavenly glory viz. that the Light within being hearkened to and obeyed is lifted up and exalted and glorified in the heart of man I know it to be true that Pen hath written it in the Folio put forth by him and Whitehead viz. that the Light in that body that was taken of the Virgin is the Christ whereas we know and assert that it 's neither the Divine nature alone nor Humane alone but both in union that is the Christ of God I will give one testimony out of Smith's Primer Pag. 8. They that are false Teachers preach Christ without and bid the people believe in him as he is in Heaven above Now lest some Reconciler as W. P. or any other should say that their Brother Smith meant that whoever preached Christ without only were false Teachers not but that the preaching of Christ without will consist with the preaching of Christ within hear his own words again Pag. 9. Child This is a great difference in their Doctrine speaking still of the true and false Teachers for one to preach Christ without and another preacheth him within Fat Yes it doth make a great difference and bath no more fellowship together then the East with the West See how far they are from denying the true and real Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven he that will be decieved let him be deceived by this line you may measure all the rest that followeth The next thing to take off the Charge is their own confession in the Book Pag. 5. They write We farther add and confess that the same man Christ that suffered and was put to death in the flesh and was raised from the dead by the mighty Power of God ascended into Heaven Gods dwelling place ascended both as to change of place and state of glory Is not here a very full and plain confession Would not you take the Hareford Quakers more Orthodox than others of them would not one hope that our writing against their Errour doth inlighten them teach them convince them and that they are coming near to some good settlement in the good old Truths and that they will at length become Christians but it is so with some that have accustomed themselves to ly and cheat they are always suspected by them that know them so truly is it with this People they have altogether lost their credit and reputation with many as in this matter in that we