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A49526 The answer of the chancellor, masters and scholars of the Vniversity of Oxford, to the petition, articles of grievance, and reasons of the city of Oxon presented to the honorable committee for regulating the University of Oxford the 24. of July, 1649. University of Oxford.; Langbaine, Gerard, 1656-1692. 1649 (1649) Wing L363; ESTC R19608 22,313 47

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