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A33943 A modest enquiry, whether St. Peter were ever at Rome, and bishop of that church? wherein, I. the arguments of Cardinall Bellarmine and others, for the affirmative are considered, II. some considerations taken notice of that render the negative highly probable. Care, Henry, 1646-1688. 1687 (1687) Wing C529; ESTC R7012 75,600 120

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