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A26198 The schoolmaster disciplin'd, or, A reply to a lying paper, entitull'd, The gadding tribe reproved, put foeth [sic] under the name of George Willington ... also, An answer to a scandalous paper, put forth by William Prynne, entitulled The Quakers unmasked ... : whereunto is added A reply to an additional paper, put forth by William Prynne, in his lying, inlarged edition of his scandalous paper aforementioned ... / by John Audland. Audland, John, 1630-1664. 1655 (1655) Wing A4197; ESTC R23357 14,236 15

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amongst them and this Informant further saith that the said Coppinger asked him what kinds of Opinions in Religion there was in Bristol and this Informant told him that there were several opinions and judgements and not naming any Opinions of the quakers the said Coppinger asked him whether there had been any quakers in Bristol and the said Informant answered him no whereupon the said Coppinger told him the said Informant two or three times that if he did love his religion and his soul he should not hear them whereupon this informant told him that he thought none of them would come to Bristol who expresly replyed that if this Informant would give him five pound he would make it five hundred pounds if some quakers did not come to Bristol within three weeks or a month then following and on the morrow following the said Coppinger departed from this Cifor Ireland his Native place and about eighteen dayes after there came to this City two persons that bare the name of quakers This is a true Coppy of the information taken upon oath at Bristol This Being the ground of that scandalous Paper put forth by thee VVilliam Prynne to it I shal answer and clearly make appear that these scandalls are false and sul of confusion First that they are false it wil appear two of us whom the World reproachfully calls quakers came from the North being moved of the Lord to come to the City of Bristol our both and beeing according to the flesh was in VVestmoreland not far from Kendal and there at this present is our outward habitations and families we came from thence in the Month called Iune and we came into the City of Bristoll the 12. day of the month called Iuly and on the morrow being the 13 day we were at two meetings the one was with the people called Anabaptists the other with the people called Independants and we were moved by the Lord to speak at both their meetings which we did and this was the thirteenth day of the month called Iuly which was a little before the Fair at Bristol called Iames-Fat●e as severall of those people can bear witness Then further thou saith it being in September George Cowlishaw being asked by the said Coppinger if there had been none of those people called quakers at Bristol he answered no now this is false some of us who is so called was then at Bristol and here I shall take many people to witness against thee for we had meetings then in Bristol the tenth day of the month called September we had a meeting at the Fort the thirteenth day of the same month a meeting at the Red-Lodge in Bristol and at both meetings there were several hundreds of people and likewise a meeting at F●eltin the fifteenth day of the same month and the seventeenth day we had a meeting at Bishford and hundreds went out of the City of Bristol to that meeting the nineteenth day we had a anomeeting at the Red-Lodge and several other meetings we had in about Bristol in the same Month called September which wil all bear witness against thee that thy slander is false and thy oath false who saith we were not at Bristol in September which he hath said on his oath we were not and here I have proved thy information false again it is ful of confusion who saith that Coppinger said that none came so neer him as the quakers and that he met with two in London of his own order and yet he saith to the informant if that he loved his religion and his soul he should not hear them and yet saith they came near him and was of his own order which is false we deny such lyars and their order and here he is proved to be in confusion let all that can discern judge Again the man that took the oath as thou sayest said that Coppinger was one of the Franciscan company and had taken upon him the order at Rome or Italy here the informant hath made himself guilty of and liable to the Law in such cases provided who was privy to him who said he had taken up that order and did not discover him but let him go and then accuseth those that are innocent which bears the name of quakers Now here thou art made manifest to be a false accuser and a slanderer I have proved that we came to the City of Bristol in the month called July before the fair and likewise that we were at those meetings before mentioned and several other meetngs we were at in and about Bristol in the Month called September and this oath before mentioned being the ground of a warrant given forth by the Magistrates of Bristol and several of our names therein expressed we who had been at Bristol whose names were there mentioned came all forth of VVestmoreland near unto Kendal none of us having never been out of the Nation but we lived and walked in and at our own habitations excepting at the time of the wars when we were in the service of the Commonwealth● and severall of the commanders and magistrates in that countrey can bear witness to our places and beings and here your lyes and slanders are made to appear and utterly denyed and VVilliam Prynne here thou art clearly detected who slanderest the innocent living in the spawn thou speaks of the Poison of asps being under thy tongue and spuing out thy venome against the harmless and thy informant is proved to be guilty in not discovering the man hee speak of which he hath on his oath said that he confessed to him he had been at Rome and taken upon him the order of a Fryer of the Franciscan company Now here let all people take notice of the dealings of the magistrates who gave out a warrant against the innocent whom they cannot justly prove any thing against whereof they do accuse them and yet lets him go free who concealed the said Coppinger which on his oath declared that the said Coppinger confessed himself to be one of that order and we deny all of his Order who lives in lying and confusion or any such to speak amongst us for we know the voice of Christ from the voice of the stranger so the devil being the father of lyes and a lye being thy foundation thou art taken with a lye in thy mouth and so ads lye unto lye and builds one lye upon another and then thou cryes against thy own lyes for thou can prove no such thing by us as thou accuseth us of saying that the quakers use inchanted Potion Bracelets Ribbands Sorcery and witchcrafe which is false and thou like the raging Sea casts up thy mire and dirt O thou ful of all mischiefe and enemy to all righteousness I charge thee or any of thy companions of the same order who lives in lying to prove any such thing by us and make it appear publikely as thou hast accused us or let thy mouth be stopped and own thy condemnation
and confess thy deceipt and call in thy filthy paper and take shame to thy self for know this that the Lord God wil plead with thee for all thy hard speeches and justly by him shalt thou be rewarded and we utterly deny and do bear witness against all such filthy waies and practises of all such Frogs as thou mentions and against thee who prints lyes as I have already proved and lyars must be cast into the Lake and here I have found thee and proved thee in the intoxicated giddy headed condition thou speaks of who art already deceived and need be deceived no farther and thou art fallen into the pit thou digged and they for whom thy not was spread being innocent are escaped and thy folly is unmasked and thou art clearly betected and proved to be in error in thy very foundation and so all thy building is made void and if thou cannot begin upon better evidence let thy mouth for ever be stoyyd and let shame cover thy lips and repent of the evil of thy wayes lest the wrath of the Lord break out against thee and there be no remedy to the Light in thy conscience I speak and remember that thou art warned Friend thy Spirit is savoured and tryed and now this is the end of thy zeal who art become a persecutor of the life which thou hast professed in words and now thy zeal appears without the knowledge of God for the Jesuits Romish Fryers and Frogs as thou calls them are in the same nature as thou art in against that people whom thou scornfully calls quakers and so there is many unfavoury speeches in thy Paper putforth by thee VVilliam Prynne which worth the mentioning are not but thou hast manifested the end of thy P●o●ession who appears now to be one of those giddy headded English men thou speaks of and as touching leading silly women Captive laden with sin and led away with divers lusts ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth to thee this home shall return who appears to be in this state learning alwaies and silly for how many years hast thou been learning and now doest resist the truth with thy unclean Spirit as Iannes and Iambers did the Children of Israel which was comming out of Egypt with their corrupt Spirits so with what Measure thou measurest it shall be measured to thee again good weight running over pressed down and friend in the day of thy calamity remember whom thou hast despised in the day of thy prosperity and what thou hast rejected with thy ful Stomack and now loathes the Honny-Comb and the precious and the vile chus●th and so one with the Harlot art become the light doth thee comprehend thou saist there was trembling or quaking in the hoast in the field among all the people the garrisons and the spoylers they also trembled so it was a very great trembling or quaking this for thy selfe shal stand when thou thy self canst read a spoyler and see thy self in the field the strong man that must bow himself and thy fenced Cities must be broken down and thy Garr●son with all thy carnall weopons then the hoast shal thee fail and then trembling and quaking wil not be despised which stands with a put ful compassion to all souls and quaking and trembling doth not despise for thou unmasked thy self in this paper hast to be a scorner and scoffer at Gods righteous seed which he upholds with his arm for which thou shalt give an account to the light in thy conscience which changes not is it spoken And whereas thou William Prynne saith that Coppinger confessed that he spake about thirty times at London among them called quakers it is false he did not speak amongst us who are so called but them that have spoken amongst us their names we know and so we whose names are subscribed bear witness against that untruth thou hast published in print Amors Toddert Simon Dring John Bolton William Creake Gervase Roberts Henry Clerke Robert Dring William Kaymond Richard Davies William West A Reply to an Additional Paper put forth by William Prynne in his Lying Enlarged Edition FRiend thou pretending a reply to that which is before printed in a paper put forth by thee bearing the same title which thou saith is the second Edition enlarged to thee I shal reply that the things which I proved stands good and not detected by thee but thou art clearly detected and proved to make a lye thy foundation and now in thy lying enlarged Edition thou hast gathered up more lyes sent them abroad into the world ful of venome thou art spawned from the Serpent crawling in the mire like the frogs thou peaks of casting up thy filth and foming like the Sea and when thou hast gathered up a heap of lyes together thou wouldst cast them upon the children of light wwo in scorn are called quakers who denyes thee among the rest of the Roman● vermine giddy-headded brain-sick generation and were thou not blinde thou would not utter forth such confusion Babylon is thy habitation the destruction of thy City is ha tningapace Misery and lamentation from the Lord God is comming upon you the burthensome stone wil grind you to pieces Thou saith the chiefe exception is against Cowlishaw his Oath is untrue for sayest thou though we were in Bristol and went to two meetings yet that was unknown to Cowlishaw Reply Here thou hast confessed that the oath is untrue in that he sware the thing he knew not which thing proves contrary to what he sware and and this again p●oves thy foundation false who faith we had not been at Bristol and sware the thing he knew not as is before expressed Thou sayest we spoke to those people then not under the notion of quakers but onely of Anabaptists and Independants Reply This is false lye to lye thou ads take them away and thy refuge is gone we did not speak to them as Anaba●tists or as Independants and this many of the people wil witness for us and against thee and there was several in that City that knew us to be of those people that were called quakers which proves another lye upon thee Thou saist when the meetings was in September we began to take upon us the name and title of quakers and that those meetings was after Cowlishaws conference with Coppinger who adds that about eighteen dayes after Reply Thy covering is too narrow by the Light thou art discovered for the information faith it was in September and then were we in Bristol and the words about eighteen dayes after which 〈◊〉 proves the th●ng false we being at Bristol then at those publike meetings before mentioned and that we began to take upon us the title of quakers then is false and with such filthy stuff thou makes up thy enlarged Edition Thou saith this convinceth Audland of a slander and doube ly First in accusing Cowl●shaw for making a false oath which his
God and the Holy Ghost spoke to them no voice of that is heard in thy mediate cal or mans ministry therefore denied by them who are guided by the Spirit o● the Lord who receives not the ministry of man but by the revelation of Iesus Christ and that 's not mans ministry The third is that we are to salute no man Reply This is thy own and in thy confutation thou answerest thy self for the Saints Salvation we own and honors all men in the Lord which is more than the heathen do but we have learned not to fashion our selves according to the world and to deny the customs of the heathen and their flattering titles and vain fashions which is without the fear of God who have mens persons in admiration because of advantage and respects mens persons and commits sin and a difference do we put betwixt the Saints salvation and the vain fashions and customs of the heathen which Israel was not to observe The fourth is that the Scripture ought not to be expounded and that expounding of Scripture is an adding to Scripture and if we add then God wil add to us all the plagues that are written therein and in thy confutation saith Christ expounded Scriptures Reply He that adds the plagues is to be added to him as it is written but thy other words is false and thy own it is your own imagination of the Scripture which we deny wresting it as thou hast done and adding with thy Envious spirit against the truth but that Christ expounded the Scriptures was neuer denied by us and that he opened their understandings to understand the Scriptures we own and witness and the Spirit of Christ is one in all his Saints and for the ly let it return upon thy own head Thy Fift is that it is not lawfull to use the title of Master to any and in thy confutation thou saith Christ was called Master and where it is said Be ye not called Master for one is your Master even Christ thou sayest the meaning is not that it is unlawful to be called Master Reply thou shews thy self to be none of Christs servant who pleads against his command and saith he bad them avoid a thing which was not unlawful if it be not unlawful its lawful thou hast forgotten now to make Scripture thy rule as for Christ being called Master he was and is so and whom hee made Ministers he made them not Masters for they had one Master and him we own to be master and in this thou art a Lyar and of the Devill who saith we say it is not lawfull to use the title of Master to any and we likewise say and exhort thereto that servants should be obedient to their owne Masters not as men-pleasers with eye-service but serving the Lord Thy sixt is that Infant-Baptism is no Ordinance of Christ and therefore of no use in the Church of God and thou saith an express command thou grants is not to be found but thou saith infants were circumcised and Baptism is ordained in the room of that Reply VVe deny it to be an Ordinance of Christ or that it came in the room of Circumcision the Scripture speaks of no such thing as infant-Baptism and til thou prove it came in the room of Circumcision thy saying proves nothing the male-children were circumcised in room of what came in your female children to be sprinkled thou speaks thou knows not what he is a Jew who is one inwardly and Baptism is by the spirit and circumcision is that of the heart he that is in Christ is a new creature born again of water and not of the spirit such are partakers of the Ordinance and are members of the Church and that which is no Ordinance of Christ is of no use in the Church of God but is by the children of light denyed Thy seventh head is That we say that the Lords supper is of no use in the Church of God since the resurrection of Christ Reply This is an absolute lie never spoken or owned by us I charge thee to prove it either by our words or writings or let shame cover thy lips lyer for the lake and own thy condemnation for thy slandring lying and false accusing Thou saith it was not thy purpose to have writ a treatise of this subject till of late finding that none answered the book before mentioned Reply Thy treatise is lyes and rayling language against the servants of God but the book is yet unanswered thy filthy silly lying paper is not taken for an answer to that book and of late thou beginnest to vent out thy mischief and thy ignorance old rotten dul stuff it is like the evil treasure it proceeded from and they who reads thy paper whose understanding is opened will discern thy ignorance and malice and deny thy unclean spirit for among the children of light thy unfruitful works of darkness is denyed and cast out and thy formed weapon cannot prosper but the Lord will wound the head of the wicked he will bruise thee as with a rod of Iron and dash thee in pieces like a potters vessel this is answered not because it was particularly against me but for the truths sake that the lies which he had raised against it may return upon his own head I. A. An answer to a Scandalous Paper Entitu●ed The quakers unmasked Put sorth by William Prynne wherein his slanders are made to appear and he is found with a lye in his mouth I Meeting with a Paper Entituled The quakers unmasked and clearly Detected Put sorth by VVilliam Prynne wherein he slanders and falsly accuseth those people scornfully called quakers and saith they are sent from Rome to seduce the intoxicated giddy headded English Nation his ground being an information he saith taken upon oath in the City of Bristol which he sets down as followeth The Information of George Cowlishaw of the City of Bristol aforesaid Iron-monger taken the two and twentieth day of Ianuary 1654. who informeth upon his oath that in the Month of September last this Informant had some discourse in Bristol with one he calls Mr. Coppinger an Irish man formerly a School-fellow of his that came thither purposely for his passage into Ireland who told this Informant that he had lived in Rome and Italy eight or nine years and had taken upon him the order of a Fryer of the Franciscan Company and he told this Informant that he had been at London lately for some months and whilest he was there he had been at all the Churches and meetings publike and private that he could hear of and that none came so neer him as the quakers and being at a meeting of the quakers he there met with two of his acquaintance in Rome the which two persons were of the same Franciscan order and company that were now become chiefe Speakers amongst the quakers and he himself had spoken amongst the quakers in London about thirty times and was wel approved of