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B07699 Certaine reasons, proouing the separation, commonly called Brownists, to be schismatiques. By William Gilgate, minister of the Word of God.. Gilgate, William,; Stansby, William, fl. 1597-1638, printer.; Butter, Nathaniel, d. 1664, bookseller. 1600 (1600) STC 11895.5; ESTC S92695 5,148 14

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CERTAINE REASONS Proouing the Separation commonly called Brownists to be Schismatiques By WILLIAM GILGATE Minister of the Word of God GALAT. 5.19 20 21. The works of the flesh are manifest Seditions whereof I tell you before as I haue told you before that they that doe such things shall not inherit the Kingdome of God LONDON Printed by W. Stansby for Nathaniel Butter and are to be sold at his shop neare St. Augustines gate at the signe of the Pyde Bull. 1621. The Preface to the Reader HAuing some yeares since suffered shipwracke in the gulfe of Separation and by Gods gracious hand hauing beene lifted out and saued from drowning in these waues I thinke it my duty to discry to others the danger and escape of those passages to and from Amsterdam I left these Arguments of mine with Master Henry Ainsworth Preacher to the same English at Amsterdam calling themselues the Separation commonly called Brownists that hee and his might see how I not rashly but for iust cause left them Sithence that I haue beene inwardly moued to publish them in print that they also who still sticke in that pit may at length perceiue on what a sandy foundation the Separation is built and forsaking the same with mee and others may labour to build themselues vpon the Rocke Christ so as the gates of Hell may not preuaile against them to plucke them from the one Body whereof hee is the one onely Head Because they perswade themselues that their manner of separation is the same that the holy Scriptures doe warrant I haue set downe their Reasons grounded on two chiefe places of the same very firmely as they imagine but I haue shewed that they wrest them as many other alleaged to that end for the proofe of that which they reproue My reasons shewing their Separation to be a Schisme I haue set downe briefly This I haue done not of hatred to any of their persons or any truth of Christ which they hold with the true Churches of God but of sincere loue toward them that they might acknowledge and forsake this worke of the flesh Schisme I meane which among other excludeth men from the Kingdome of God which I pray God to bestow vpon all his there and euery where Amen William Gilgate The reasons of the Separation called Brownists taken out of two chiefe places of Scripture answered GOD admonisheth his people dwelling in Babylon id est Rome Reuel 18 4. That at length acknowledging the filthinesse of that Citie they forsake her Therefore hee willeth also all his people with speed to come forth from the Parish Assemblies in England I deny the consequence It followeth not there is not the same reason In the Church of Rome men continuing members are partakers of their damnable errours and sinnes but it is not so in the Parish Assemblies of the Church of England Which is so farre from beeing Babylon that it is the strongest and most flourishing enemie of Babylon In which regard it is most deadly hated by the Antichrist of Rome Let the Separatists take heed lest themselues vnder the pretence of hatred to Babylon build vp a worse Babylon or Babell of Confusion in the Christian Church 2. The beleeuers in the Church of Corinth 2. Corin. 6.17 are forbidden to haue fellowship with Infidels in Idolatrie id est in the holy Feasts they celebrated to the honour of Idols Therefore they may not communicate with the English Parish Assemblies in the Word of God Sacraments Prayer Here also is an inconsequence They must proue the people there to be Infidels and those meanes or helpes of Gods worship to be Idols and the vsing of the same there to be idolatrie Separatists are Schismatiques NAy the Separation seemeth the rather guiltie of Idolatrie in adhering to admiring and euen adoring their owne dreames and new-fangled fancies My reasons conuincing them of Schisme Where the Sonne of God speaketh to men by his Gospel there we may heare him In the English Parish Assemblies Christ speaketh to men by his Gospel Therefore in those Parish Assemblies wee may heare him And by consequence the Separation are Schismatiques refusing to heare him in any of the said Assemblies Minor proued Where men that were dead in sinnes and trespasses by hearing doe liue spiritually id est doe reioice in God tasting Gods fatherly fauour toward them in Christ there the Sonne of God doth speake to men by his Gospel In the said Assemblies some men that were dead in sinnes and trespasses doe liue spiritually c. Therefore in the said Assemblies at least some of them the Sonne of God doth speake to men by his Gospel When I vrged this Argument to Maister Ainsworth he could answer nothing but that Christ doth not at any time speake to any by his Gospell in the Parish Assemblies of the Church of England and that none there doe liue by Faith Which vncharitable and hatefull opinion of his did make me the more to hate their vnchristian opinions Reason 2 They that consenting with others in the doctrine of Saluation by Christ 1. Cor. 1.10.11 Iud. 19. doe neuerthelesse separate themselues from them as touching spirituall communion are Schismatiques The Separation doe consent with others in the doctrine of saluation by Christ and yet doe separate from them as touching spirituall communion Therefore they are Schismatiques The Corinthians were guiltie of Schisme in hearing some teachers and not othersome Maior proued though teaching the same doctrine and in not communicating at the Table of the Lord with them that professed the same Faith of Christ with themselues 1. Cor. 11.21 Therefore the Separation are guiltie of Schisme in doing the like The former had some shew of reason for that they did so haue the latter Those men that Iude speaketh of were Schismatiques 2. proofe of the Maior for separating themselues from the godly when they came together to the outward worship of God Therefore the Separation for doing the like are likewise Schismatiques Let them not falsly affirme that they from whom they separate in the Parish-Assemblies are not godly and that the outward worship there vsed is not Gods worship because of I know not what pretended defects and because many wicked are mixed with them Reason 3 They that teach that in those Churches where open sinners are tolerated Reuel 2.24 3.4 no lawfull communion can be had in things of God and thereupon refuse to haue communion with the same are Schismatikes Reasons discussed pag 247. 249. The maior proued The Separation doe teach this c. Therefore they are schismatiques Christ putteth no such burden vpon the faithfull in Thyatira and Sardis to separate themselues because wicked men were tolerated in their Churches Therefore they are Schismatiques that lay such a burden on the faithfull in England Reason 4 They that refuse to haue communion in priuate prayer with those Ephes 4.3.4.5.6 whom they may discern to haue communion with