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as_o s._n augustine_n expound_v it_o l._n 20._o civit._n dei_fw-la c._n 19_o where_o he_o deduce_v this_o exposition_n out_o of_o the_o manner_n of_o s._n paul_n speak_v who_o say_v not_o in_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o templo_fw-la but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o templum_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v in_o templun_n dei_fw-la that_o be_v as_o though_o he_o and_o he_o be_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n although_o this_o annotation_n of_o s._n august_n be_v not_o necessary_a for_o though_o in_o latin_a we_o can_v well_o say_v sedere_fw-la in_o templun_n for_o in_o templo_fw-la yet_o in_o greek_a it_o be_v not_o evil_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yea_o it_o be_v common_o so_o say_v some_o also_o understand_v the_o church_n of_o christian_n which_o antichrist_n shall_v command_v to_o serve_v he_o as_o s._n chrysostome_n interprete_v it_o yet_o the_o more_o common_a more_o probable_a and_o the_o more_o literal_a exposition_n be_v of_o they_o who_o teach_v that_o the_o temple_n of_o solomon_n be_v understand_v by_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n in_o which_o after_o some_o sort_n repair_v antichrist_n â—â—all_v fit_v for_o first_o in_o the_o scripture_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o church_n of_o christian_n be_v never_o understand_v by_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n but_o always_o the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o that_o which_o be_v more_o the_o ancient_a father_n latin_a and_o greek_a for_o some_o age_n never_o call_v the_o church_n of_o christian_n temple_n which_o in_o greek_a be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o in_o this_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n but_o they_o call_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v oratoria_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la domas_n orationis_fw-la basilicas_fw-la martyria_fw-la certain_o neither_o s._n justine_n nor_o s._n irenaeus_n nor_o tertullian_n nor_o s._n cyprian_n do_v use_v the_o name_n of_o temple_n when_o they_o treat_v of_o the_o church_n of_o christian_n and_o s._n jerome_n ep_v ad_fw-la riparium_fw-la say_v that_o julian_n the_o apostata_fw-la command_v that_o the_o basilicae_fw-la the_o basilicae_fw-la church_n of_o the_o saint_n shall_v either_o be_v destroy_v or_o turn_v into_o temple_n and_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o apostle_n call_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christian_n temple_n be_v two_o the_o one_o because_o than_o they_o have_v not_o any_o temple_n but_o only_o in_o private_a house_n they_o appoint_v certain_a place_n for_o prayer_n sermon_n and_o say_v of_o mass_n the_o other_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o jewish_a temple_n be_v fresh_a lest_o the_o apostle_n may_v seem_v to_o bring_v in_o some_o thing_n like_o to_o they_o and_o that_o they_o may_v distinguish_v the_o church_n from_o the_o synagogue_n they_o abstain_v from_o the_o name_n of_o temple_n as_o also_o for_o the_o same_o reason_n the_o apostle_n in_o the_o scripture_n neve_n call_v christian_a priest_n sacerdotes_fw-la but_o only_o episcopos_fw-la and_o presbyteros_fw-la but_o after_o that_o jerusalem_n be_v overthrow_v and_o the_o temple_n burn_v and_o the_o memory_n of_o the_o old_a temple_n and_o priesthood_n abolish_v the_o holy_a doctor_n begin_v to_o use_v common_o the_o name_n of_o temple_n and_o priesthood_n since_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n writing_n that_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n say_v something_o which_o he_o will_v have_v understand_v of_o they_o to_o who_o he_o write_v and_o they_o then_o do_v not_o understand_v by_o the_o name_n of_o temple_n any_o other_o but_o the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n it_o seem_v certain_a that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o it_o which_o be_v also_o confirm_v by_o the_o common_a exposition_n of_o the_o father_n s._n irenaeus_n lib._n 5._o when_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n than_o our_o lord_n will_v come_v etc._n etc._n s._n hippolytus_n mart._n orat_fw-la de_fw-fr mundi_fw-la consummate_a he_o shall_v build_v the_o temple_n at_o jerusalem_n and_o s._n martin_n apud_fw-la sulpitium_fw-la lib._n 2._o dial_n teach_v the_o same_o s._n cyril_n hierosol_n cateche_n 15._o what_o manner_n of_o temple_n mean_v the_o apostle_n in_o the_o temple_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v remain_v for_o god_n forbid_v that_o it_o shall_v be_v do_v in_o this_o in_o which_o we_o be_v and_o s._n hilary_n can_v 25._o in_o matt._n antichrist_n be_v receive_v of_o the_o jew_n shall_v stay_v in_o the_o place_n of_o sanctification_n where_o he_o plain_o speak_v of_o the_o temple_n of_o the_o jew_n for_o he_o call_v the_o place_n of_o sanctification_n that_o which_o christ_n matth._n 24._o call_v the_o holy_a place_n when_o he_o say_v when_o you_o see_v abomination_n stand_v in_o the_o holy_a place_n s._n ambrose_n in_o c._n 21._o luc._n say_v that_o antichrist_n according_a to_o the_o history_n shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n into_o which_o the_o roman_n cast_v the_o head_n of_o a_o swine_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o emperor_n titus_n and_o according_a to_o the_o mystical_a sense_n that_o he_o shall_v sit_v in_o the_o inward_a temple_n of_o the_o jew_n that_o be_v in_o their_o perfidious_a mind_n sedulius_n upon_o this_o place_n of_o the_o apostle_n explicate_v that_o in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n he_o will_v endeavour_v to_o repair_v the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n etc._n etc._n s._n damascen_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 28._o in_o the_o temple_n say_v he_o not_o we_o but_o the_o old_a jewish_a s._n chrysostome_n theodoret_n and_o theophilact_n who_o say_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v in_o the_o church_n of_o christian_n affirm_v also_o that_o he_o shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o solomon_n for_o s._n chrysostome_n write_v thus_o upon_o this_o place_n he_o shall_v command_v himself_o to_o be_v worship_v for_o god_n and_o to_o be_v place_v in_o the_o temple_n not_o only_o of_o jerusalem_n but_o also_o in_o the_o church_n the_o same_o say_v theophilact_n and_o theodoret._n s._n augustine_n also_o lib._n 20._o civit._n dei_fw-la cap._n 19_o &_o s._n hierome_n quaest_n 11._o ad_fw-la algasiam_fw-la do_v not_o deny_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o solomon_n only_o oecumenius_n deni_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o he_o be_v the_o last_o of_o all_o and_o by_o no_o mean_n to_o be_v prefer_v before_o all_o the_o father_n perhaps_o also_o his_o text_n be_v corrupt_v &_o there_o want_v but_o one_o particle_n only_o for_o it_o be_v not_o credible_a that_o he_o will_v depart_v from_o s._n chrysostome_n theodoret_n and_o theophilact_n who_o in_o all_o other_o thing_n he_o always_o follow_v now_o let_v we_o answer_v to_o the_o argument_n of_o our_o adversary_n which_o we_o propose_v before_o to_o the_o first_o i_o answer_v in_o three_o manner_n first_o it_o may_v be_v say_v with_o s._n augustine_n in_o psal_n 26._o arethas_n haymo_n bede_n and_o rupert_n in_o cap._n 17._o apoc._n that_o by_o the_o harlot_n which_o sit_v upon_o seven_o hill_n and_o have_v her_o kingdom_n over_o the_o king_n of_o the_o earth_n rome_n be_v not_o understand_v but_o the_o whole_a city_n of_o the_o devil_n which_o in_o the_o scripture_n be_v often_o call_v babylen_n and_o be_v oppose_v to_o the_o city_n of_o god_n that_o be_v to_o the_o church_n which_o be_v call_v jerusalem_n and_o that_o by_o the_o seven_o hill_n be_v understand_v the_o universality_n of_o the_o proud_a and_o chief_o of_o the_o king_n of_o the_o earth_n second_o it_o may_v be_v say_v and_o in_o my_o judgement_n better_o that_o by_o the_o harlot_n be_v understand_v rome_n as_o tertull._n l._n cont_n indaeos_fw-la &_o lib._n 3._o cont_n martian_a and_o s._n hierome_n ep_v 17._o ad_fw-la marcellam_fw-la &_o qua_v 11._o ad_fw-la algasiam_fw-la but_o ethnic_a rome_n reign_v worship_v idol_n and_o persecute_v christian_n and_o not_o rome_n christian_n for_o so_o those_o author_n expound_v and_o sure_o marvellous_a be_v the_o impudence_n of_o heretic_n who_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o purple_a harlot_n use_v the_o testimony_n of_o tertullian_n and_o s._n hierome_n for_o since_o at_o that_o time_n heathen_a rome_n be_v contrary_a to_o christian_a rome_n which_o of_o they_o i_o pray_v you_o do_v those_o father_n call_v the_o purple_a harlot_n if_o heathen_a rome_n why_o then_o do_v the_o heretic_n abuse_v their_o testimony_n if_o christian_a rome_n it_o follow_v that_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v degenerate_v then_o and_o antichrist_n do_v reign_v then_o which_o they_o themselves_o do_v not_o grant_v furthermore_o if_o christian_a rome_n be_v babylon_n then_o why_o do_v tertullian_n the_o prescript_n say_v happy_a church_n to_o which_o the_o apostle_n pour_v out_o their_o whole_a doctrine_n with_o their_o blood_n and_o why_o do_v s._n hierome_n lib._n 2._o cont_n jovinianum_fw-la in_o the_o end_n
of_o 3._o about_o the_o second_o place_n m._n downan_n take_v occasion_n to_o show_v his_o skill_n in_o greek_a &_o make_v a_o large_a discourse_n that_o many_o time_n the_o greek_n article_n do_v not_o signify_v a_o particular_a thing_n 2._o 2._o thess_n 2._o which_o both_o s._n epiphanius_n &_o bellarmine_n know_v aswell_o as_o himselve_v 4._o but_o when_o he_o come_v to_o that_o part_n of_o s._n epiphanius_n his_o observation_n which_o make_v to_o the_o purpose_n he_o have_v little_a thing_n when_o the_o greek_a article_n signify_v a_o particular_a thing_n to_o say_v against_o either_o of_o they_o both_o for_o s._n epiphanius_n his_o rule_n as_o m._n downan_n interprete_v it_o be_v this_o where_o the_o article_n be_v add_v unto_o some_o definite_a and_o notable_a thing_n there_o be_v always_o confirmation_n by_o the_o article_n which_o confirmation_n he_o will_v have_v to_o be_v that_o the_o word_n be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v indefinite_o or_o indifferent_o of_o any_o which_o 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argument_n be_v draw_v second_o he_o allege_v 2._o tim._n 2._o 17._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o man_n of_o god_n and_o luke_n 11._o 24._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o unclean_a spirit_n but_o these_o be_v from_o the_o purpose_n since_o that_o neither_o place_n speak_v of_o the_o most_o eminent_a man_n of_o god_n nor_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a unclean_a spirit_n which_o be_v necessary_a for_o s._n epiphanius_n his_o rule_n who_o only_o speak_v of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o m._n downam_n translate_v not_o well_o in_o the_o positive_a degree_n and_o can_v deny_v the_o rule_n itself_o which_o be_v confirm_v by_o all_o the_o example_n which_o he_o bring_v of_o apostle_n poet_n orator_n and_o wiseman_n and_o the_o same_o be_v evident_a of_o king_n man_n etc._n etc._n when_o we_o only_o speak_v of_o the_o most_o eminent_a king_n man_n etc._n etc._n as_o s._n paul_n do_v here_o of_o the_o most_o eminent_a antichrist_n now_o as_o for_o the_o second_o part_n of_o s._n epiphanius_n his_o rule_n which_o m._n downam_n translate_v thus_o but_o without_o the_o article_n it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v of_o any_o one_o indefinite_o that_o be_v indeterminate_o we_o grant_v it_o he_o when_o it_o be_v the_o name_n of_o some_o definite_a and_o most_o notable_a thing_n of_o which_o s._n epiphanius_n speak_v but_o when_o it_o be_v only_o a_o adiective_n or_o a_o pronowne_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v them_z it_o be_v out_o of_o s._n epiphanius_n his_o rule_n especial_o when_o by_o some_o other_o circumstance_n it_o be_v sufficient_o declare_v that_o some_o particular_a person_n or_o thing_n be_v mean_v as_o it_o happen_v in_o our_o case_n 5._o concern_v the_o three_o place_n it_o please_v m._n downam_n to_o be_v a_o little_a merry_a with_o bellarmine_n say_v that_o he_o think_v the_o argument_n draw_v from_o the_o article_n to_o good_a to_o go_v for_o one_o and_o so_o divide_v it_o 2._o 1._o john_n 2._o into_o two_o and_o yet_o he_o know_v well_o 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in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n no_o man_n shall_v be_v permit_v to_o buy_v and_o sell_v unless_o he_o show_v the_o character_n or_o the_o name_n or_o the_o number_n of_o the_o name_n but_o how_o many_o do_v buy_v and_o sell_v in_o the_o dominious_a of_o the_o pope_n who_o be_v not_o yet_o chrism_v nor_o have_v take_v the_o oath_n of_o fidelity_n nor_o be_v priest_n do_v not_o many_o jew_n even_o in_o the_o very_a city_n of_o rome_n where_o the_o pope_n have_v his_o sea_n negotiate_v public_o buy_v and_o sell_v although_o they_o have_v none_o of_o those_o sign_n let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o other_o reason_n &_o prove_v that_o all_o these_o sign_n be_v elder_a than_o antichrist_n antichrist_n by_o the_o opinion_n of_o our_o adversaries_n come_n not_o before_o the_o year_n 606._o but_o tertullian_n live_v about_o the_o year_n 200._o and_o yet_o make_v mention_n of_o chrism_n lib._n the_o resurrectione_n carnis_fw-la the_o flesh_n say_v he_o be_v wash_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v cleanse_v the_o flesh_n be_v anoint_v that_o the_o soul_n may_v be_v consecrate_v s._n cyprian_n live_v about_o the_o year_n 250._o and_o make_v mention_n of_o chrism_n lib._n 1._o epist_n 12._o he_o must_v necessary_o be_v a_o anoint_v say_v he_o who_o be_v baptize_v that_o have_v receive_v chrism_n that_o be_v unction_n he_o may_v be_v the_o aunoynted_a of_o god_n and_o have_v in_o he_o the_o grace_n of_o christ_n s._n augustine_n live_v about_o the_o year_n 420._o and_o yet_o he_o say_v tract_n in_o joan._n 118._o what_o be_v it_o that_o all_o know_v the_o sign_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n which_o sign_n unless_o it_o be_v apply_v either_o to_o the_o forehead_n of_o the_o faithful_a or_o to_o the_o water_n with_o which_o they_o be_v regenerate_v or_o to_o the_o oil_n with_o which_o they_o be_v chrism_v or_o to_o the_o sacrifice_n with_o which_o they_o be_v nourish_v none_o of_o these_o thing_n be_v right_o perform_v likewise_o to_o cleave_v to_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o sign_n and_o character_n of_o a_o true_a catholic_a man_n before_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 606._o s._n augustine_n write_v epist_n 162._o of_o caecilianus_n who_o live_v about_o the_o year_n 300._o he_o need_v not_o to_o care_v for_o the_o multytude_n of_o enemy_n which_o conspire_v against_o he_o since_o he_o see_v himself_o unite_v by_o communicatory_a letter_n to_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o which_o the_o principality_n of_o the_o apostolical_a chair_n always_o flourish_v and_o to_o the_o other_o country_n from_o whence_o the_o gospel_n come_v into_o africa_n s._n ambrose_n who_o live_v about_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 390._o in_o orat_fw-la de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la fratris_fw-la svi_fw-la he_o ask_v the_o bishop_n say_v he_o if_o he_o agree_v in_o doctrine_n with_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n that_o be_v with_o the_o roman_a church_n victor_n vticensis_n who_o live_v about_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 490._o lib._n 1._o de_fw-la persecut_fw-la vandal_n write_v that_o a_o arian_n priest_n go_v about_o to_o persuade_v the_o king_n not_o to_o put_v a_o catholic_a to_o death_n use_v these_o word_n if_o thou_o put_v he_o to_o death_n the_o roman_n will_v account_v he_o a_o martyr_n in_o which_o place_n by_o the_o name_n of_o roman_n the_o catholic_n of_o africa_n be_v design_v who_o doubtless_o be_v not_o call_v romans_z by_o the_o arian_n for_o any_o other_o cause_n but_o for_o that_o they_o follow_v the_o faith_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o not_o the_o misbelief_n of_o the_o arian_n we_o find_v the_o oath_n of_o obedience_n make_v to_o the_o b._n of_o rome_n in_o the_o time_n of_o s._n gregory_n lib._n 10._o epist_n 31._o and_o therefore_o before_o the_o year_n 606._o for_o s._n gregory_n live_v not_o so_o long_o of_o priestly_a unction_n we_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o
§_o 25._o illyricus_n cent_n 1._o lib._n 2._o cap._n 4._o col_fw-fr 435._o and_o all_o other_o sectary_n of_o this_o time_n do_v teach_v but_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n be_v antichrist_n as_o they_o themselves_o also_o teach_v in_o the_o same_o place_n therefore_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n sit_v in_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o be_v the_o prince_n and_o head_n of_o his_o church_n but_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n can_v only_o be_v one_o as_o christ_n be_v one_o as_o caluin_n also_o teach_v lib._n 4._o instit_fw-la cap._n 1._o §_o 2._o therefore_o the_o lutheram_n and_o caluinist_n and_o as_o many_o as_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v under_o the_o pope_n be_v out_o of_o the_o true_a church_n caluin_n see_v this_o argument_n and_o answer_v that_o not_o so_o much_o the_o church_n as_o the_o ruin_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v see_v under_o the_o pope_n for_o thus_o he_o speak_v lib._n 4._o instit_fw-la cap._n 2._o §_o 11._o as_o there_o remain_v in_o old_a time_n certain_a peculiar_a prerogative_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o jew_n so_o neither_o at_o these_o day_n do_v we_o take_v from_o the_o papist_n the_o step_n of_o the_o church_n which_o the_o lord_n will_v have_v remain_v among_o they_o of_o the_o dissipation_n and_o after_o god_n have_v wrought_v with_o his_o providence_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v also_o other_o remnant_n extant_a lest_o the_o church_n shall_v whole_o perish_v and_o as_o building_n be_v often_o so_o throw_v down_o that_o the_o foundation_n and_o ruin_n remain_v so_o he_o have_v not_o suffer_v his_o church_n to_o be_v either_o subvert_v from_o the_o foundation_n or_o quite_o throw_v down_o by_o antichrist_n or_o else_o he_o will_v have_v the_o build_n half_o save_v from_o destruction_n and_o again_o §_o 12._o wherefore_o hence_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o we_o deny_v not_o that_o the_o church_n remain_v even_o under_o his_o tyranny_n but_o this_o solution_n affoard_v we_o two_o argument_n the_o first_o if_o only_o the_o ruin_n of_o christ_n church_n remain_v then_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n be_v fall_v wherefore_o the_o truth_n have_v lie_v which_o say_v matth._n 16._o and_o the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o the_o other_o the_o church_n be_v fall_v and_o the_o papist_n hold_v the_o ruin_n of_o it_o and_o the_o foundation_n yea_o the_o build_n itself_o half_o throw_v down_o then_o the_o lutheram_n and_o caluinist_n have_v no_o church_n for_o they_o have_v not_o the_o whole_a and_o entire_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o that_o be_v fall_v and_o the_o ruin_n yet_o remain_v neither_o have_v they_o it_o half_o throw_v down_o for_o that_o be_v among_o the_o papist_n under_o antichrist_n what_o have_v they_o they_o perhaps_o a_o new_a building_n but_o in_o that_o it_o be_v new_a it_o be_v not_o christ_n and_o who_o that_o be_v not_o altogether_o blind_a see_v not_o that_o it_o be_v more_o safe_a to_o remain_v in_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n although_o half_o throw_v down_o then_o in_o none_o now_o i_o come_v to_o the_o scripture_n by_o which_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o jerusalem_n and_o not_o rome_n shall_v be_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n the_o first_o be_v in_o cap._n 11._o apos_n where_o s._n john_n say_v that_o enoch_n and_o helias_n shall_v fight_v with_o antichrist_n in_o jerusalem_n and_o be_v slay_v thereby_o he_o and_o their_o body_n say_v he_o shall_v lie_v in_o the_o street_n of_o the_o great_a city_n which_o be_v spiritual_o call_v sodom_n and_o egypt_n where_o also_o their_o lord_n be_v crucify_v upon_o which_o place_n arethas_n their_o body_n say_v he_o shall_v be_v cast_v unbury_v in_o the_o street_n of_o jerusalem_n for_o he_o shall_v reign_v in_o that_o city_n as_o king_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o like_a manner_n do_v all_o other_o interpreter_n expound_v it_o and_o sure_o it_o can_v by_o no_o mean_n be_v deny_v that_o this_o be_v speak_v of_o jerusalem_n for_o what_o city_n be_v there_o where_o our_o lord_n be_v crucify_v but_o jerusalem_n wherefore_o chytraeus_n who_o will_v have_v this_o city_n to_o be_v rome_n let_v pass_v those_o word_n where_o also_o their_o lord_n be_v crucify_v as_o though_o they_o be_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n neither_o be_v it_o any_o hindrance_n that_o s._n hierome_n in_o ep_n 17._o ad_fw-la marcellam_fw-la endeavour_v to_o show_v that_o jerusalem_n can_v be_v call_v sodom_n since_o that_o every_o where_o in_o scripture_n it_o be_v call_v the_o holy_a city_n for_o in_o that_o epistle_n he_o persuade_v marcelia_n to_o forsake_v rome_n and_o come_v into_o palestin_o and_o therefore_o he_o heap_v up_o all_o that_o he_o can_v in_o the_o praise_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o in_o the_o reprehension_n of_o rome_n and_o endeavour_v by_o all_o mean_n to_o excuse_n jerusalem_n neither_o do_v he_o it_o in_o his_o own_o name_n but_o in_o the_o name_n of_o paul_n and_o eusto_n hium_fw-la who_o he_o think_v aught_o to_o be_v pardove_v if_o they_o explicate_v any_o thing_n some_o what_o otherwise_o then_o it_o be_v for_o that_o earthly_a jerusalem_n may_v be_v call_v sodom_n for_o last_o and_o offence_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v manifest_a out_o of_o isaias_n who_o in_o his_o first_o chapter_n when_o he_o have_v prefix_v the_o title_n the_o vision_n of_o isaias_n which_o he_o see_v upon_o juda_n and_o jerusalem_n add_v forthwith_o hear_v the_o word_n of_o our_o lord_n you_o prince_n of_o sodom_n harken_v with_o your_o ear_n the_o law_n of_o my_o god_n you_o people_n of_o gomorrha_n neither_o be_v that_o a_o good_a argument_n jerusalem_n be_v call_v holy_a therefore_o it_o can_v be_v call_v sodom_n for_o as_o s._n hierome_n say_v in_o the_o same_o epistle_n that_o rome_n be_v call_v babylon_n and_o the_o purple_a harlot_n by_o s._n john_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o pagan_a emperor_n and_o yet_o that_o it_o be_v holy_a by_o reason_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o sepulcher_n of_o s._n peter_n and_o s._n paul_n so_o also_o jerusalem_n be_v a_o holy_a city_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n which_o preach_v there_o of_o the_o cross_n and_o sepulchre_n of_o christ_n and_o the_o like_a and_o yet_o it_o be_v sodom_n and_o egypt_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o offence_n and_o blindness_n of_o the_o unbelieved_n jew_n the_o second_o place_n be_v apoc._n 17._o where_o s._n john_n say_v that_o the_o 10._o king_n who_o shall_v divide_v the_o roman_a empire_n among_o themselves_o &_o in_o who_o reign_n antichrist_n shall_v come_v will_v hate_v the_o purple_a harlot_n that_o be_v rome_n &_o will_v make_v her_o desolate_a &_o will_v burn_v she_o with_o fire_n how_o then_o shall_v it_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n if_o it_o must_v be_v overthrow_v and_o burn_v at_o that_o very_a time_n beside_o as_o we_o prove_v before_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v a_o jew_n &_o the_o messiah_n and_o king_n of_o the_o jew_n wherefore_o without_o doubt_n he_o shall_v place_v his_o seat_n in_o jerusalem_n &_o will_v go_v about_o to_o restore_v the_o temple_n of_o solomon_n for_o the_o jew_n dream_v of_o nothing_o else_o but_o of_o jerusalem_n &_o of_o the_o temple_n neither_o do_v it_o seem_v that_o they_o will_v ever_o accept_v any_o for_o their_o messiah_n who_o shall_v not_o sit_v in_o jerusalem_n &_o restore_v the_o temple_n in_o some_o sort_n wherefore_o lactantius_n l._n 7._o c._n 15._o say_v that_o in_o the_o time_n of_o antichrist_n the_o chief_a kingdom_n shall_v be_v in_o asia_n &_o that_o the_o west_n shall_v serve_v &_o the_o east_n rule_n and_o c._n 17._o he_o determine_v the_o part_n of_o asia_n in_o which_o this_o kingdom_n shall_v be_v &_o say_v that_o it_o be_v syria_n that_o be_v judaea_n which_o be_v part_n of_o syria_n and_o which_o be_v always_o call_v syria_n by_o the_o latin_n likewise_o s._n hierom_n &_o theodoret_n in_o c._n 11._o dan._n gather_v out_o of_o dan._n that_o antichrist_n shall_v fix_v his_o tent_n in_o the_o country_n of_o jerusalem_n &_o at_o length_n be_v slay_v in_o the_o mount_n olivet_n and_o s._n irenaeus_n l._n 5._o say_v plain_o that_o antichrist_n shall_v reign_v in_o earthly_a jerusalem_n the_o three_o place_n be_v in_o those_o word_n of_o s._n paul_n 2._o thess_n 2._o so_o that_o he_o shall_v sit_v in_o the_o temple_n of_o god_n for_o although_o there_o be_v many_o exposition_n give_v by_o the_o father_n and_o some_o understand_v the_o mind_n of_o the_o faithful_a in_o which_o antichrist_n be_v say_v to_o sit_v when_o he_o have_v seduce_v they_o as_o s._n anselme_n expound_v it_o &_o some_o by_o the_o temple_n understand_v antichrist_n himself_o with_o all_o his_o people_n for_o antichrist_n will_v desire_v to_o have_v himself_o and_o he_o seem_v the_o spiritual_a temple_n of_o god_n that_o be_v the_o true_a church_n
yet_o than_o they_o shall_v be_v gentile_n and_o idolater_n since_o they_o shall_v acknowledge_v no_o other_o god_n but_o antichrist_n himself_o beside_o this_o doubt_n whether_o s._n john_n speak_v in_o this_o place_n of_o antichrist_n or_o no_o m._n downam_n say_v that_o he_o have_v prove_v two_o other_o point_n more_o certain_o first_o that_o henoch_n and_o elias_n be_v not_o here_o speak_v of_o and_o that_o â—_o see_v c._n â—_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v not_o mean_a jerusalem_n but_o these_o proof_n of_o his_o be_v all_o confute_v in_o their_o due_a place_n to_o which_o i_o remit_v the_o reader_n for_o now_o i_o will_v only_o examine_v that_o which_o he_o bring_v in_o this_o place_n where_o he_o be_v content_a to_o suppose_v that_o s._n john_n speak_v both_o of_o antichrist_n and_o of_o jerusalem_n and_o yet_o say_v juggle_n m._n downams_n juggle_n that_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o whersoever_o the_o witness_n of_o christ_n be_v put_v to_o death_n by_o he_o or_o by_o his_o authority_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v his_o principal_a seat_n and_o then_o he_o put_v bellarmine_n argument_n in_o form_n for_o he_o make_v the_o proposition_n thus_o where_o the_o two_o witness_n be_v put_v to_o death_n there_o be_v the_o seat_n of_o antichrist_n to_o which_o he_o also_o answer_v with_o this_o distinction_n that_o be_v general_o understand_v it_o be_v false_a if_o particular_o than_o bellarmine_n argument_n be_v not_o a_o syllogism_n but_o a_o paralogism_n where_o you_o see_v how_o he_o toss_v and_o turn_v bellarmine_n argument_n to_o avoid_v the_o force_n of_o it_o and_o yet_o it_o will_v not_o be_v for_o first_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v that_o bellarmine_n speak_v of_o witness_n without_o determination_n of_o number_n then_o have_v add_v the_o number_n yet_o he_o say_v that_o it_o may_v be_v understand_v general_o which_o i_o can_v conceive_v how_o he_o mean_v except_o it_o be_v that_o bellarmine_n shall_v speak_v of_o any_o two_o witness_n whatsoever_o which_o notwithstanding_o be_v very_o ridiculous_a since_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o he_o speak_v of_o those_o two_o only_a which_o s._n john_n speak_v of_o but_o say_v m._n downam_n if_o it_o be_v understand_v particular_o of_o two_o determinate_a and_o particular_a witness_n than_o bellarmine_n argument_n be_v a_o paralogism_n and_o why_o so_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n what_o deceit_n be_v there_o here_o yea_o be_v it_o not_o great_a deceit_n to_o speak_v universal_o since_o the_o scripture_n speak_v determinate_o and_o particular_o of_o only_a two_o which_o bellarmine_n have_v also_o evident_o convince_v to_o be_v helias_n and_o enoch_n and_o consequent_o m._n downam_n can_v deny_v but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o perfect_a syllogism_n and_o a_o evident_a 17._o see_v part_n â—_o c._n 2._o §._o 17._o demonstration_n except_o he_o can_v find_v some_o fault_n in_o the_o assumption_n for_o which_o he_o remit_v we_o to_o his_o former_a proof_n by_o which_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o have_v 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