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city_n	antichrist_n	temple_n	zion_n	25	3	9.6572	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A01042	Eubulus, or A dialogue, where-in a rugged Romish rhyme, (inscrybed, Catholicke questions, to the Protestaut [sic]) is confuted, and the questions there-of answered. By P.A.	Forbes, Patrick, 1564-1635.	1627 (1627)	STC 11147; ESTC S102413	101,942	162

CHRIST should not haue continued and continued visible There-fore thinges affirmed by you can not consist with the promise of CHRIST made to His Church and her Condition accordinglie and consequentlie you are Haeretickes Thus having as hee thinketh set vs aside from anie Interest in the Title of CHRIST'S Church next vpon a ground confessed by vs but miserable mistaken by him hee buildeth a Conclusion for the second part of his mayne Assumption which concerneth the Church of Rome thus To giue lawfull Ordination to Pastors is competent onlie to the Church of CHRIST But you Protestantes acknowledge That the Ordination given by the Church of Rome was lawfull Ordination There-fore the Church of Rome must bee the Church of CHRIST Doe you not now perceiue Philomathes whither your Man's meaning tendeth by all this his great Squadron of Interrogatours with the multitude where-of hee would in a Musicall Moode over-whelme vs Philomathes I now perceiue it well anough you haue reduced all to so cleare and compendious a forme And graunting the Major of his mayne Argument you denyed his Minor And first that part there-of which vpon the Defectes layde agaynst you hee assumed of your Churches For Probation where-of I must confesse that no-thing is brought by him in his second Syllogisme but the all-readie disputed poyntes of Continuance and Visibilitie Where-of you haue sayde ●…o much as wee can not goodlie requyre anie more of you So that except it please you to aunswere vnto his last and appearinglie insoluble Objection agaynst you grounded on your owne Graunt of lawfull Ordination by the Church of Rome I thinke for mee there resteth no other poynt vndiscussed of all our matter Eubulus Of his Objection of lawfull Calling by the Church of Rome and all that hee can possiblie build thereon I shall GOD willing eyther pay him or prooue him al-readie payed more than aboundantlie And al-be-it I haue before al-so spoken of the other poynts yet for more clearing whether hee better prooveth or I deny his mayne Assumption let vs take a short view of his Interrogatours Philomathes Then saye to them and wee will heare gladlie Thus they are You say your Fayth did appeare For the first sixe hundreth yeare But tell mee if thou can When Papistrie first began Eubulus Wee affirme that our Fayth which is the onlie true Fayth hath appeared not sixe hundreth onlie but now all-most sixeteene hundreth yeares though not in alyke evidence at all tymes or to all persones and though not al-wayes perceived even of them to whome it appeared For as the Smoake of the bottomlesse Pitte by degrees prevayled so was true Light the lesse and of the lesser number perceived And yet even in the height of that Evill when a Throne was erected to Satan in the Temple of GOD and Antichrist obtayned not onlie the Court of the Temple but al-so all the holie Citie there were Candle-stickes still in the Temple and good numbers of Sealed Ones following the Lambe on Mount Syon while all the miscarried Earth followed the Beast although none could heare or learne their Song but themselues who in that common Apostasie were bought from the Earth to be the true Citizens of Heaven al-be-it in the Earth yet not of it Now what tyme Poperie did first begin what Man is hee that needeth to make anie question who readeth Paul affirming plainly that the Mysterie of Iniquitie was even then begun to worke or who readeth Iohn avouching that Antichrist was even then in the World That the first beginninges and subtill Insinuation were not commonlie marked it was the LORD His wyse Dispensation and Satan's deepe Deceit for other-wayes it had beene no Mysterie Doeth not the LORD Him-selfe teach vs in Parable That the envyous one did sowe his Tares even with the good Seede in the LORD His owne Fielde and that so covertlie and subtillie whyle the Servauntes were sleeping that all-bee-it mixed with the good Seede and waxing in the midst there-of yet it is not espyed vntill by different Stalke Flowre and Eare it bewray whose Hand did scatter it so as the verie Servants al-be-it by tyme they see it growing and waxing and discerne it to bee adulterous yet they can not tell howe by whome nor what tyme it was sowne And shall Tares I pray you bee counted good Wheat except the moment and first Sower there-of bee showne Your Man doteth and deceiveth in reasoning Sophisticallie from Poperie in the first Seede to Poperie begotten and even from Poperie begotten in the first subtill Insinuation and cunninglie-covered beginninges to Poperie borne and brought foorth and from Poperie even brought foorth but yet still masked vnder fayre and plausible Pretences and swedled vp in the Clouts of GOD His Children to Poperie at length kything openlie Teeth Hornes and Clawes so bewraying evidentlie vvhose Broode it was all-bee-it long and fraudfullie fostered in the midst of GOD His owne House Satan was long in all Subtiltie and deepe Deceit a-bringing out of that Monster as the last and greatest Master-stich of all his Policie and Power and much and darke tyme behooved to bee allotted to the begetting of that great Hercules of the infernall Iupiter First in the Seede Next in the Egge vvhence Satan long and sedulouslie sitting there-on at length hatched out a Serpent which became by tyme a fyrie flying Dragon For the Beast arose out of the Earth slowlie and insensiblie not as that Tages repente doctus in ipso nascendi Articulo You may reade if you list Philomathes a more large Answere to this same vayne Question sent to my selfe by one of your side in my Discoverie of his Dotage there-in Philomathes I will GOD willing reade it But what say you to this VVhere were the Servantes of the LORD That none of them durst speake a word To defende the knowne Trueth c. Eubulus They were even where Satan's Throne was and all-bee-it tollerating spirituall Fornication for which the LORD had some-thing agaynst them yet keeping the NAME of GOD them-selues and informing others in the true knowledge there-of they were in the Temple whyle Antichrist trode downe the Court there-of and the holie Citie and powerfullie dispensing there-in both Light and Grace to true Christians and having Vengeance in readinesse agaynst their Enemies they were in the VVildernesse both fedde and feeding others They were on Mount Syon with the Lambe both worshipping purelie them-selues and leading others there-in though none eyther heard or learned their Song but the sealed Virgines whyle the Beast miscarried all the Earth to commit spirituall Fornication Thus they were all-wayes and both spake the Trueth and for the Trueth But the blynde and stupified Sectatours of the Beast neyther saw nor heard them For howe soone the Beast of the bottomlesse Pitte perceived them then was The Patience of the Saynctes and then Blessed were the Dead which died in the LORD then lay they vnburied in the Streetes of that

embrace Trueth But let vs come to the rest of our Interrogatours How might a Man haue found you out To haue tryall in matters of doubt When no such Companie did appeare For so manie hundreth Yeare Eubulus To this Question I haue al-readie answered more than once and it is the same which more than thrise your Man hath not beene ashamed to demaund For from that Question where were the servants of the LORD that none of them durst speake a word what haue all his Interrogatours beene but a pievish repetition of one and the same thing in substance Anie truelie-lightened and humblie and sincerelie seeking might al-wayes haue found vs out vnder the common Ensigne And if perhaps Errour had so farre prevayled in common as hee could finde or heare nothing in all the holie Citie and Court of the Temple but the Dragon's mouth yet Candle-stickes and Oliues were never wanting in the Temple And even when all the Earth committed Fornication following the Beast yet Virgines would haue found on Mount Syon a Song which chaste Hearts might heare and learne To your Man's Rhetoricke where-by heere in a Poëticall licence hee looseth his Tongue so liberallie vpon LVTHER I disdayne to answere but referre him to the Fish-Market where-of his Aeloquence most smelleth I come to examine his Logicke Because before LVTHER and such others as were in the same Age and cause with him none did contest so openlie or in so high a degree agaynst Antichrist doeth it follow there-vpon that none at all were before him VVhy then were IOHN HVSSE and HIEROME of PRAGVE an hundreth yeares ere then cruellie and barbarouslie burnt agaynst publicke Fayth and assurance given them VVhy were all the Bo●…emian Churches so sore vexed Because the two Witnesses Revel xi after the Spirit of Lyfe had entered in them stoode more vigorouslie and advowedlie than before and because by Divine Warrand at that poynt of tyme they were first bidden Come vp hither their Enemies saw them and were afrayde And so then first they were publicklie separated from Antichrist his Contagion and his Kingdome beginneth to take an open fall where-by the Holie Ghost paynteth out playnlie the tyme and dealing of LVTHER and his Fellowes in their State Course and Condition vvill it conclude there-fore that those Witnesses were not till then or that they did not contest agaynst Evils before that tyme all-be-it not in that degree eyther of Strength or Successe Had not the Beast ere then murdered them even with applause of the Worlde Yea and before anie advowed Contestation with him or Violence from him were they not long prophecying in the Temple all-bee-it lurking and in Sacke-cloath Because in KING EDWARD'S dayes the abolishing of Poperie and reparation of true Worship were first by publicke Lawes established vvill anie Logicke conclude heerevpon That no Protestantes were before that VVhere-fore then were so manie martyred before the dayes of KING EDWARD VVhat did your Men meane by the barbarous raysing of IOHN WICKLEFE and his Disciples Bones some Ages before that The Name of PROTESTANTS your Man would say was never heard of before LVTHER But I pray you Philomathes were it good Logicke to conclude That never a Christian was in the Worlde before a Church was raysed in Antiochia because till then that name was not heard of Will your Poet admit that where Poperie is not by lawes established there no Papistes are at all Poperie in-deede did beare sway for the space of a thousand yeares for so long tyme the holie Ghost putteth betwixt the Dragon's imprisonment at which poynt of tyme Antichrist had his first open degrees of vsurpation to his loosing agayne at which poynt that Mischiefe was come to the toppe of all sacrilegious Impietie But it did not beare all that tyme a-lyke sway neyther at anie tyme vniversallie with everie one how-soever it did commonlie with all but had much different and slowlie and slielie comming-on degrees which your Poet confoundeth most vnskilfullie and there-vpon no lesse chyldishlie in different tymes and cases yet requyreth one and the same Manner and one and the same Measure of Contestation Which in GOD'S wyse Providence was reserved to the challenging of the Beast in the height of his impietie for working of his fall Hee was first a fraudulent spotted Pard but by tyme became of the Dragon's Colour Hee first had on his head the name of Blasphemie but by tyme all his bodie was full of the names of Blasphemie Hee first craftilie layde stumbling Blockes as Balaam but by tyme the Whoore horne vp by him lyke furious and bloodie Iezabel did openlie over-throw all true Worship erect Baal and drinke the blood of Sayncts Finallie Philomathes this your Mens Question where-by they so much stupifie the Simple Where was the Church so manie hundreth yeares c is even just such a Question as if one who had lyen long diseased convalescing at length should be asked by one who had never seene him walking in perfect health Where were you before this tyme To which foolish Demaund as hee might verie well answere That hee both had beene before and were the same selfe Man which the Demaunder had seene before al-though not in the same state and condition So wee affirme That the CHVRCH is still the same CHVRCH vvhich was all those hundrethes of yeares where-in they woulde appeare to make Her a-missing but that Shee was long sicke by a long slowlie and at first insensiblie comming-on Disease vvhich at length had become extreame daungerous and deadlie but that by the Cure of Her LORDE Shee hath convalesced of it And it were an extreamlie ridiculous Clayme If in a Bodie vvhich had beene over-gone with a great Disease and yet by the power of the Noble partes retayning Integritie had so farre recovered that even the Dregges and force of the Sicknesse were fallen into the Legges and Feete If there-fore I saye the swollen Legges and Feete shoulde denye the rest of the Bodie and take all Priviledge there-of to them-selues because they for-sooth kept still the Dregges of a long Disease As the CHVRCH at first even in the Apostolicke tymes and some whyle after retayning PVRITIE and Spirituall Health was the CHVRCH So afterwardes contracting Sicknesse in all the growing Degrees thereof yet was still the same CHVRCH all-bee-it not in the same good condition of Health and integritie of all her Members and nowe agayne by the Purgation of of the WORD and SPIRIT convalescing is yet still the same CHVRCH all-bee-it in a greater Degree of Health than before And still the CHVRCH lived the same Lyfe of GOD all-though not all-wayes in a-lyke measure and force And the Evill or Disease was still one and the same wasting the Lyfe of the CHVRCH all-be-it not at all tymes in a-lyke force or seene working neyther yet ever over-going vniversallie everie Member howeso-ever it in common over-went and affected all For it never vtterlie extinguished the Lyfe of GOD in the