God And because when they were first baptised they were not baptised into that particular church onely but are counted baptised into the catholike church and into Christ his death and burial Rom. 6. 3. 4. therfore though they renew the covenant yet their baptisme is not renewed for then it is manifested to the judgment of man that the seed of God though for the time it was not seen remayned in them and therfore their syn was not unto death 1 Joh. 3. 9. And this the Apostle teacheth us from God saying This is my covenant unto them when J shall take away their synns As concerning the Gospel they are enemies for your sake but as touching the election they are beloved for the fathers For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance Rom. 11. 27. 28. 29. Where we see that while mens synns are not by promise of God taken away they are not in his covenant as is confirmed also by Heb. 8. 10. 12. And in that Gods gifts and calling concerning his elect are without repentance they are to be restored into the covenant when they turne unto the Lord without any repeating of their outward baptisme Where he addeth this reason For baptisme is the signe of our entrance into the covenant and the Lords seale of his so receiving and admitting of us as circumcision was unto the Iewes Though it may in some sense be admitted which he sayth yet not as he intendeth and urgeth it For first Abraham was in the covenant of grace and justified by faith in Christ before he received circumcision Gen. 15. 6. Rom. 4. 3. And after that he received the signe of circumcision a seale of the righteousnes of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised Genes 17. Rom. 4. 10. 11. Secondly the children of Abraham were borne in the covenant and holy 1 Cor. 7. 14. Ezr. 9. 2. and borne unto the Lord Ezek. 16. 20. but were not circumcised til the eight day Levit. 12. and such infants as dyed before the eight day died not out of the covenāt not to speak of the women in Israel which were in the covenant without circumcision in the flesh Thirdly Moses sayd to men women and children ye stand this day all of you before the Lord your God c. that thou shouldst enter or pass into covenant with the Lord thy God Dent. 29. 10. 11. 12. 13. Yet all which had been borne within 40. yeres before were uncircumcised and so continued till Moses was dead Ios. 5. 2. 7. By all which it appeareth that men may otherweise enter into the Lords covenant then by Circumcision or by baptisme now come in sted therof How much more then if they have been baptised before and fallen from the covenant may they enter into it againe without a new baptising with water His other tautologies I omitt being before answered But he thinks to have help from Jer. 3. 12. 13. 14. where God calleth Israel to returne unto him and he will not cause his anger to fall upon them and sayth Turne o backsliding children for I am maried unto you and I will take you one of a citie and two of a familie and will bring you to Sion Where amongst many observations these are the chief 1. That God dealt otherweise herein then a man doth with his wife whom he putteth away and she become another mans as he shewed in Jer. 3. 1. 2 That these words The Lord thy God are words of the covenant Genes 17. 7. 3ly That he sayth J am maried unto you which the best writers expound to be the covenant of grace 4. That he would take them one of a citie and two of a familie teaching that they should not stay one for an other though the body of the people should remaine obstinate yet if a few returned he would receive them which sheweth the stability and eternitie of his covenant as Gen. 17. 7. which he performeth if but a fewe be made partakers of that grace as Rom. 11. 1. 5. Answ. He erreth himself and causeth to erre in not observing the scope of this scripture nor the conditions propounded and in not distinguishing the times past present and to come nor the covenant of the Law and the covenant of grace The scope of this scripture Jer. 3. 6. c. is to shew 1. the transgressions of Israel and Iudah under the covenant of the Law 2. the punishments inflicted for the same 3. and a promise of another covenant of grace which God would make with them in Christ. Israel played the harlot Ier. 3. v. 6. God called her to repent but she repented not v. 7. then God put her away and gave her a bill of divorces v. 8. yet Iudah her sister feared not but played the harlot also and dissembled so that Israel justified her self more then Iudah v. 8. 9. 10. 11. Then God seing them bothe to be covenant breakers promiseth of his grace a new covenant to be made with them in Christ which he proclaimeth first to Israel if they repent acknowledge their synns and turne unto him v. 12. 13. and so speaketh of his mariage with them to weet with the remnant of them one of a citie and two of a family whom he would bring to Sion v. 14. unto whom he would give faithfull pastours v. 15. not as under the Law and rudiments therof for the most excellent signes therof even the Ark of the covenant of the Lord should not be remembred or visited any more v. 16. But Ierusalem the Lords throne the Christian Church should be for the Gentiles of all nations v. 17. and for the Iewes and for the Israelites walking togither v. 18. Then sheweth he the signes and fruites of his grace in them manifested by their calling upon God as their Father in Christ v. 19. their weeping and supplication for their former synns v. 20. 21. the Lords promise of mercie to them that returne and their acceptation of his mercie offred v. 22. shewed by their humble confession of their synns and just punishments v. 23. 24. 25. The same argument is in Jer. 31. both touching Israel Iudah where after many promises he speaketh of a new Covenant with Israel and Iudah not like the covenant made with their fathers when he brought them out of Egypt which they brake though the Lord was an husband unto them but a covenant that he would write his Law in their harts and forgive their iniquitie which Paul expoundeth to be the new Covenant or Testament now confirmed by Christ Heb. 8. 8. c. Now to apply these promises which concerned future times graces in Christ to that present time whē they were in their synns unrepentant unbeleeving unforgiven under the bill of divorce and put away from the Lord is quite to mysse of the mark which the prophet aymeth at For though he speaketh to Israel as a body or corporation which continueth through many ages yet not those persons then
6. 28. 29. 30. Ezek. 13. 14. ch And againe As if there were no difference to bee put between the Temple of God and that lawlesse one 2. Thes. 2. 4. 8. nor between the people of God and Babylon Rev. 18. 4. 8. c. Answ. I deny not all calling of God in her as he accuseth me to it I have before answered His comparison I deny In Iudah were the Lords prophets and priests in Rome none but the hierarchie which they say is the Man of syn no members but ulcers in the body Let them shew me a Ieremie or Zephanie now in Rome or a lawfull ministery of God therein as was in Iudah till the captivity reckned by the holy Ghost 1. Chron. 6. 3. 15. Let them shew me a company that abstaineth from and crieth out against their abominations in Rome as was in Iudah and Ierusalem Ezek. 9. 4. or a basket of good figgs which God acknowledged for his people Ier. 24. 2. 5. 6. Finally they still plead for Rome by the name of Ierusalem when the holy Ghost calleth it Babylon Rev. 17. 18. chap. Such calling as was out of Babylon I grant unto them As for the Temple of God I have before answered their plea from the same They pleaded the publick record of holy mariage the scripture and the ministerie c. I answered the scripture sheweth no such mariage but doth defie her as an harlot Rev. 17. 1. Where is the record that Christ was ever maried to the Beast that came up from the bottomless pit Rev. 17. 8. If her having the book of holy scripture in an unknown tongue wickedly abused to maintain her whoredomes and abhominations and subjected to the interpretation of her Lord God the Pope bee a record of that holy mariage the Iewes which have Moses and the Prophets read and expounded in their mother tongue have better records c. Mine opposite sayth The Scripture sheweth record of the mariage of that church Rom. 1. 7. 8. 7. 4. 16. 19. Answ. It is denyed for this is not that church but an other harlot arisen since falsly boasting to be the same 2. That church consisted of officers and people all joyntly maried to Christ Rom. 12. if this record will serve now for the people of Rome it will serve also for the Bishop and ministerie of Rome the hierarchie which they confesse to be the Man of syn 2. Thes. 2. the great Antichrist so then the Scripture sheweth belike that Christ and Antichrist have been maried together And seeing the mariage of Christ with his Church is by faith Hos. 2. â—0 and the Pope hath still the same faith that the people hath his mariage standeth as well as theirs 3. The Scripture sheweth like mariage with the churches of Ephesus Philippi Thessalonica and many other which have revolted to Mahomet as Rome hath to the Man of syn so then we must account those Churches still maried unto Christ by the same record But they will deny those churches to continue the mariage so doe I this Besides if he had considered the scripture Rev. 19 7. 8. he might have seen a new mariage between Christ and his Church which needed not have been if the former mariage had continued undissolved as he supposeth Object Neither is it any thing that he sayth God doth defie her as an harlot Rev. 17. 1. For besides that he putteth no difference between Babylon and the Church or Temple of God what wil he say to Jsrael yea to Judah also and Ierusalem thinks he not that God defied them also as harlots Ier. 3. 8. 11. with Esai 1. 21. c. yet the scripture shewes record of â—hew mariage with God Exod. 19. 4. 5. 6. Ezek. 16. 8. c. Answ. What difference hee would make between the Whore of Babylon Rev. 17. and the Church of Rome whom himselfe proclaimeth to be a notorious harlot and idolatress I cannot comprehend Some that are dazeled may think one thing to be two or three I find in Rev. 17. but one notorious harlot Babylon if they grant that she was never maried to Christ it is all that I desire That Israel the twelve tribes was maried to Christ and after ten of them became an harlot and was divorced I grant and so her adulterous sister Iudah afterward The same I acknowledge for the churches of Rome Corinth Ephesus c. But since they were divorced from Christ and maried to Mahomet and Antichrist there remaineth no more record of their former mariage ill they returne again to the Lord out of Babylon unto Ierusalem the holy citie which is prepared as a Bride adorned for her husband Rev. 21. 2. Of my next words mine opposite maketh a wonderment But it exceedeth all sayth he that he blusheth not to aske where is the record that Christ was ever maried to the beast that came up from the bottomless pit Rev. 17. 8. To the beast That Christ was ever maried to the Beast Did Mr. Junius ever say so Or thinks he that ever it entred into his thought Did not Mr. Junius speak expresly of the Church Wil this man never learne to put difference between the Beast and the Church between the Man of syn and the Temple of God c. Answ. It seemeth that his wonder made him to forget himselfe Sayd he not even now it was evident that Mr. Iunius in one respect acknowledged the Hierarchy to be an order or estate of apostasie in the Church and in another respect he esteemed the ministery of Gods holy things to be there So then though the Hierarchy onely be the Beast as mine opposite thinketh and though in respect of the Apostasie it is not maried to Christ yet in respect as it is Gods ministerie though corrupted it is maried to Christ. But behold how their doctrines are admirable to themselves The ministers of the Church of Rome are of the same religion faith and holines with the people the people hee will have to bee still maried to Christ but the ministers in no weise he cannot endure to heare of it especially when it cometh under the scripture names of the Man of syn or the Beast And where he asketh if I wil never learn to put difference between the Beast and the Church c. I doe put difference though not so great as he would have me for the Beast and the whore that rideth him Rev. 17. though they differ yet are they so neerly conjoyned that if one be maried to Christ the other is also But why doth he not teach from the scriptures what the Beast signifieth I have learned from the Prophet Daniel that a Beast meaneth a Kingdom Dan. 7. 23. and a kingdom by light of reason consisteth of King and subjects of governours and people and Mr. Iunius himselfe telleth us so saying A kingdom is a multitude of men gathered under one King As the Christian kingdom therefore consisteth of Christ his ministers
can be transformed as the ministers of righteousnes 2 Cor. 11. 14. 15. is it such a marvel that he should transforme his temple and church into the Temple of God and church of Christ and yet as he is a Divil stil notwithstanding his transformation so his Temple coÌ„tinueth stil the Temple of the Divil and church of Antichrist how ever they are disguised with other names and habits And to help a litle to the discerning of both these opposite mysteries of pietie and impietie wee are to know that Christs Kingdome beginneth in the kingdome of Satan and is perfected in the Kingdome of God and Antichrists kingdome beginneth in the kingdome of God and is perfected in the kingdome of Satan For the god of this world having blinded the eyes of infidels who are dead in synns and walk according to the prince of the power of the aier Christ by his Ministers sent into the world and by his word of trueth the gospel causeth light to arise unto them openeth their eyes and turneth them from darknes to light and from the power of Satan vnto God that they may receive forgivenes of synns and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in him and thus God delivereth them from the power of darknes and translateth them into the kingdome of his beloved son Then cometh Satan by Antichrists which are his ministers privily crept into the church and by the word of lying which is Antichrists gospel he darkneth the mindes of them that have not received the love of the trueth and turneth them back againe from God and by damnable heresies privily brought in draweth them even to deny the Lord that bought them and so bring upon themselves swift destruction Then doe they goe out from the church blaspheme the way of trueth and togither with the Beast doe warr against Christ whom yet in name and pretense they would seem to honour and serve so accomplishing the mysterie of their iniquitie unto assured damnation if they turne not againe unto God This thing not being observed how Christ beginneth in the world and draweth men out of it into his church and Antichrist beginneth in the church draweth men out of it into the world againe as the Dragons taile draweth the starrs of heaven â—â—fteth them to the earth Rev. 12. 4. mine opposite thought it absurditie and contradiction in me for writing thus When th Apostle therfore telleth us that Antichrist sitteth as God in the Temple of God it is to be vnderstood first of their invading and destroying of Gods church and people as the heathens of old dealt with Jerusalem and dwellers therin secondly of their owne vayne ostentation whiles they will have it called the Christian catholik church and th Pope the head of the same Vpon this he thus inveigheth What have we here Doth himself now by the Temple of God vnderstand Gods church and people yea such as was answerable to Ierusalem and the dwellers therin of old why then hath he so eagerly oppugned us hereabout c. Answ. I oppugne the present church of Rome which Antichrist destroyeth not but buildeth and adorneth as an alluring harlot the Christian church which was in Rome of old that hath he invaded and destroyed long since for they then were Saints such as he hateth these now are worshipers of him and of idols Divils and are an habitation of Divils So there is as much difference between the church of Rome now and the church then as between the Bishop of Rome now the Bishops then they were Christs ministers this now is Antichrist as mine opposite himself confesseth And what cause hath he to insult as if he had got the victorie Let wise men judge But he proceedeth Obj. Where can he shew in the scriptures that sitting is put for invading or destroying c. Otherwhere stil he teatheth that by sitting is meant abiding continuing dwelling c. What if I cannot prove that sitting is put for invading or destroying if I prove my assertion by other words of the text shall it not suffice The words Eiston Naon into the Temple may imply by a figure his invading and the person that invadeth being an enemy a theef a wolf implyeth his destroying for our Saviour sayth The theef cometh not but for to steale and to kill and to destroy 1 Joh. 10. 10. The scripture often wanteth words easy to be understood so here Paul sayth of Antichrist that he having entred into the Temple of God sitteth as God And if they regard not my exposition they shall have his on whom they so much rely Mr. Iunius I mean who so explaineth it saying The testimonie of signe is this that Invading the temple of God he shal sit as God Jun. Animad vers in Bellarm. Controv. 3. l. 3. c. 14. not 18. But what if I confirme it by the word sitting which he thought so unlikely In Esai 14. 13. the Prophet upbraideth the king of Babylon thus Thou hast sayd in thine hart J wil ascend into heaven c. J wil sit also in the mount of the congregation in the sides of the North meaning mount Sion where Gods temple was But this is meant of Nebuchadnezars invading of Ierusalem to spoile the same as the historie sheweth 2 King 25. and in him Antichrists tyrannie against the church was lively figured As for sitting to mean continuing though it doth so often times yet not alwayes Christ sate upon the mount of Olives Mat. 24. 3. the disciples sate in the house Act. 2. 2. yet dwelt they not or continued long there And when the Babylonian invaded mount Sion to sit there he continued not there but having spoiled the citie burned the Temple and captived the people he returned into Babylon 2 King 25. so Antichrist spoiling Christian churches returneth to his whore of Babylon his proper habitation which he wickedly boasteth to be the Sion Temple and church of God Wheras mine opposite expounded the Temple of God to be the church and shewed not whether he meant a church particular or general and catholik I sayd for a particular church it wil not agree with the prophesies of Antichrist whose citie or church is so great as peoples kinreds tongues nations doe dwell in the streets therof Rev. 11. 8. 9. He gainsayeth me thus First Still he calls that Antichrists church which th' Apostle calleth the Temple of God Answ. It is his own interpretation that the Temple meaneth the church and that he that sitteth in it is Antichrist and sitting he wil have to be continuing and why may not I call that church wherin Antichrist sitteth continually as God Antichrists church yea though it were indeed Gods church as he supposeth Seing the citie wherin Christ did but dwell was called his owne citie Mat. 9. 1. And that which God sayth in my house and in my kingdom 1 Chron.
17. 14. an other Prophet relateth it thine house and thy kingdome speaking to David the governour 2 Sam. 7. 16. Or to shew a fitter similitude as the holy Ghost calleth the Moabites the people of Chemosh Numb â—1 29. because they worshiped Chemosh for their God so the church of Rome which worshipeth Antichrist is fitly called Antichrists church Object How will he prove that the Beasts citie Rev 11. 8. is the temple of God 2 Thes. 24. Ans. It is himself that expoundeth the Templ to be the church and in special the Lateran church in Rome where the Pope is parish priest I shew by Rev. 11. 8. that the Popes parish is a larger citie or church then eyther that Lateran parish or Rome it self even over many nations and so can not be a particular church such as Christ instituted but a new catholik church which the Pope hath devised and would have it accounted the Temple and church of God Here mine opposite laboureth to finde a difference between the Beasts citie and his church but all in vaine For thus he reasoneth 1. This citie in Rev. 11. 8. is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt where also our Lord was crucified But the church is here called the Temple of God or the Court without the Temple or the holy Citie Answ. First then he granteth that the same church may be called both a temple a citie so the diverse name helpeth him nothing Secondly it is true that Antichrists church is called Sodom and Egypt which was an whole countrie let men now judge how fitly mine opposite hath confined Antichrists church within the Laterane parish a corner in Rome Shall we rather beleeve him or the Holy Ghost Thirdly that is called the Holy citie Rev. 11. 2. which the Gentiles the church of Antichrist tread under foot as destroyed and wast wheras the church of Antichrist is a great citie called Babylon sumptuously builded garnished and by him mainteyned Rev. 17. and that is the church of Rome at this day as all know and of the present church of Rome is now our controversie Obj. 2. This great citie is that where our Lord was crucified Rev. 11. 8. Now all know that he was crucified in and vnder the jurisdiction of the citie not of the church of Rome For he was condemned by Pontius Pilate c. Answ. The thing he aimeth at is that the citie mentioned in Rev 11. 8. is a civil politie as when Rome killed Christ and not an ecclesiastical politie or church But he laboureth in the winde for the citie is such as is the Beast or kingdome the Beast is a spiritual politie most synful for it commeth out of the bottomles pit Rev. 11. 7. that is from the Divil wheras all Civil polities are from God though they be heathens Rom. 13. 1. 2. Secondly he should have knowen that the same Citie which was a civil politie in Christs time killed him is now subordinate to an ecclesiastical politie church or Papacie and stil crucifieth Christ in his members Obj. 3. This citie is that which was the Dragons throne and by him given to the Beast Revel 13. 2. But this was the citie not the church of Rome Neyther J think wil these men themselves say that the church was the Dragons throne or was by the Dragon given to the beast Answ. The citie or politie which the Dragon gave to the Beast was civil but is now subjected to or become ecclesiastical for the citie of Rome is now by profession Christen which of old was heathen and by professed Christians namely the Pope his church are those witnesses of God killed Rev. 11. 7. 8. so their corpses lye unburied in the streets of the beasts citie that is of Antichrists church or politie which reacheth over many nations Obj. 4. This citie also is the throne of the Beast and Babylon the great citie spoken of Rev. 16. 10. 19. 17. 18. chapt which is to be understood of the citie of Rome and dominion therof Answ. It is granted that this citie is Babylon and Rome and the dominion therof but it is a spiritual politie or church for who hath dominion now of Rome but the Pope or Bishop there the pretended vicar of Christ and who but he hath killed those Martyrs within his Diocese or Bishoprick which reacheth over many kingdoms Obj. 5. This citie is the woman that sitteth on seven-mountains Reve. 17. 9. 18. And the citie not the church of Rome is built on 7. mountaines Answ. Yes the same heathen citie which was first set on seven hills is now a pretended Christian citie sitting still on her 7 hills and being a Christian in name hath killed Christ in his members by her Popes power ecclesiastical who hath his seat in her but his Dragons pawes reach into farr countries This citie the woman on 7. hills is shee that hath made the inhabiters of the earth drunk with the wine of her â—ornication Rev. 17. 1. 2. c. and who but the church of Rome hath doen this Obj. 6. This citie hath 7. kings or kindes of government c. by Kings Consuls Dictators Decemvirs Tribunes ceased before Johns time Emperours when Iohn lived and Popes not then come But how should this be found in the church of Rome which was not before Johns tyme and therfore could not have 5. Kings or kindes of government then fallen Answ. Ill doe they thrive that kick against the pricks Here himself confesseth the Popes goverment to be one of the seven now the Popes goverment or papacie is an ecclesiastical monarchie by it were the witnesses of Christ slayn as before I shewed As for seven goverments to be found in the church of Rome that is in the papacie is absurd for it is to seek 7. kindes of goverment in one But six are gone and the seventh remayneth by the Pope That citie or politie which once was heathen now Christian in name Antichristian in deed which the Pope menageth is the malignant church that killeth Gods witnesses amongst peoples kinreds tongues and nations Rev. 11. 8. 9. Therfore it can not be restreyned to one particular congregation Obj. 7. This citie is that which reigned over the kings of the earth in Johns time Rev. 17. 8. And that not the church but the citie of Rome so reigned when John wrote all doe acknowledge Answ. But that the citie the church of Rome now reigneth by the Pope the head of that church all doe acknowledge And the killing of those witnesses Rev. 11. was not in Iohns time but after when the citie or politie of Rome was become Christian in name and title To say it was not so in Iohns time therfore it is not so now is dallying rather then sound reasoning Obj. 8. Finally the Lord himself putteth difference between this citie Babylon and his people therin Rev. 18. 4. as of old in Babylon of Chaldeâ— Ier. 50. c. Answ. This is true but what can he inferr
thereupon It was not Gods people in Babylon that killed those witnesses Rev. 11. but it was Babylon that killed those witnesses Gods people therin Because Gods people killed not those witnesses but the Beast in his catholik citie or church therfore thinks he that citie of the beast is not his church a fayre conclusion Obj. Note here that by the great citie is meant not onely the citie it self but the whole jurisdiction authority and dominion therof how farr soever extended Answ. It is a good note and worth the marking for the great citie being the church of Rome as before is proved it followeth that the extents of that church reach further then the materiall walls of Rome even to all nations that are of the Popes religion and therfore to bound it within the Lateran parish of Rome is to restreyn that which God sheweth to be more large It were a happy day if the Popes unruly power were limited within the Lateran parish and his jurisdiction reached no further But he must have a larger scope to range in yet a while and weak warriers are they against him that plead for his whorish church of Rome that it is the true church of Christ and under his covenant of grace It is the thing that the Pope would most gladly have proved and I am well assured Babylon wil not fall til it be otherweise battered Obj. Where yet observe further that the church of Rome being fallen into deep apostasie and having the man of syn sitting ther in as God who hath that citie for his throne the things that are spoken of this citie are also applied to the apostate estate of that church of Rome and the other churches that are under the jurisdiction of the prelacie of that Sea whersoever and of whatsoever people kinred tongue or nation they be c. But shall wee therfore conclude that by the Temple of God 2 Thes. 2. 4. may not be understood the church of God Answ. How glorious is the trueth that forceth those to yeild that fight against it His former reasons that by the Citie in Rev. â—1 8. the church was not meant he now frustrateth himself But still he cleaveth to his first plea The temple of God 1 Thes. 2. is the church of God I may answer hereto as God by Ieremy did to the Iewes Trust not in lying words saying The temple of the Lord the temple of the Lord the temple of the Lord are these Ier. 7. 4. Our dispute is in what sense Paul calleth it the Temple of God whether as the true temple builded by Solomon or as the false temple builded in Samaria by the Apostate Israelites which the Prophet calleth the house of their God Amos 2. 8. as the Apostle calleth this the Temple of God Now faine he would have this Romish temple of apostate Papists to be the true temple of God and that they notwithstanding their deep apostasie are Gods true church under his covenant which I deny and have before disproved and Paul in the very same place counteth them among those that perish for beleeving lyes which shal be damned for not beleeving the trueth 2 Thes. 2. 10. 11. 12. and Christ teacheth that being worshipers of the beast their names are not written in the book of lâ—fe Rev. 13. 8. 17. 8. but they shal be tormented in fyre and brimstone for ever Revel 14. 9. 10. 11. and that the whorish church Babylon the great the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth which is drunken with the blood of the Saincts and of the martyrs of Jesus shal be destroyed for ever Rev. 17. 5. 6. 18. 21. And who now that have not their right eye blinded wil not rather say it is the Samaritans Temple then Solomons though in pretence and colour the Temple of God And seing every true church now is a particular congregation in one place but the church of Rome is a new found catholik church spred over many nations under one head Bishop the Pope it can not possibly be Christs true church having neyther the constitution faith worship ministerie order or ordinances of Christ but of his enemie Antichrist Wheras I formerly wrote Neyther is that if they meane a particular church answerable to the Temple in Israel which was not for one synagogue but for the whole nation of the Iewes and for the Gentiles that came to the faith through the world To this he sayth How greatly forgets he himself and how presently seing but a line before he sayd the Temple figured not onely the catholik or universal church Ephe 2. 21. but also every particular church by proportion 1 Corint 3. 16. 17. And may we not then apply it to that wherof it was a figure c. Answ. No for mine opposite granteth that the Temple was primarily a figure Christ but so to apply it in this place 2 Thes. 2. himself thinketh not fit I deny not but some where it may and ought to be so applyed but considering that the Temple of God wherin Antichrist now sitteth is a catholik church spred over many nations as was prophesied Rev. 11. 8. 9. I think the applying of Pauls words in 2 Thes. 2. to a particular church is neyther fitting to the type nor to the prophesie nor to the accomplishment of it which we see at this day The priests in Israel figured Christ chiefly secondarily Christians Rev. 1. 6. But to apply those things which Paul speaketh of the Priests in Heb. 10. 11. 12. to us Christians were not onely unfitting but heretical Obj. The Candlesticks and Lamps were set in the Temple of God and the church of Rome was a golden Candlestick as well as the rest of the primitive churches and this man himself sayth definitely the true churches were many of them apostate when John wrote whom yet notwithstanding Christ acknowledgeth to be golden candlesticks In any of which of Antichrist had sit as in the church of Rome I suppose this man would not deny but his sitting then should have been in the Temple of God whether it were considered as a particular candlestick it self or a branch of the great general candlestick c. Answ. 1. If the Candlesticks were churches in the Temple the church then the Temple in such respect is the catholick church for one particular church is not in an other 2. I grant that the church of Rome was a golden candlestick in th'Apostles time and I think mine opposite would not deny but then also the Bishop of Rome was a starr in Christs right hand But now the Bishop is a starr fallen from heaven and acknowledged to be Antichrist why then may not the church be fallen with him as Paul forewarned Rom. 11. 22. and the candlestick removed from it as wel as from Ephesus Rev. 2. 5. except Rome have a privilege above all other cities because it crucified Christ. 3. I grant also that
church estate was dissolved their Temple and holy citie burned when Babylon and Bels temple in it flourished and was garnished with the holy vessels stollen out of Gods temple The Lord had swallowed up all the habitations of Jakob swallowed up Jsrael and all her pallaces destroyed his places of assemblie caused the solemne feasts and Sabbathes to be forgotten in Sion cast off his Altar abhorred his sanctuarie Mount Sion was desolate and the foxes walked upon it But was Babylon which thus abused Gods people and burned his Temple Gods church If not how should the Church of Rome which now is Babylon the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth which is drunken with the blood of the Saincts how should she be Gods church people or Temple 3. Had not that people also polluted the Temple of the Lord and fallen into notorious idolatrie c. for which they were given by the Lord into the hands of the Babylonians and were they not stil the Lords church and people c. Answ. They were some of them as before is shewed And so Christians having polluted Gods temple of Christianitie and fallen into idolatries and heresies were given over of the Lord some into the hands of the Turk as Israel into the hands of Assur some into the hands of the Pope as Iudah into Babel And such Israelites as embraced the religiō of the Assyrians Babylonians ceased to be Gods people actually til they repented others that resisted evil and kept the trueth as Daniel and his brethren were Gods holy people So all in Rome and Turkie that abide in the truth refusing their abominations are Gods holy people the rest that have received Maometisme and Antichristianisme are not Gods people actually albeit many of them are Gods elect and shal so be manifested when they come out from them But mine opposite changeth the state of the question turning it from Babylon it self to Israel Gods people in Babylon and so from the Church of Rome now Babylon to the faithful witnesses of Christ therin of whom none make doubt 4. Js there not difference to be put between the people of God in Babylon and Babylon it self c. Answ. Yes which whiles it is not held unto we are dallied with The controversie is about the church of Rome it self which is Babylon the reasons given are for Gods people open or secret in that Babylon Who seeth not the deceyt For God hath had his people in Rome not onely when it was Antichristian but when it was heathen and multitudes have been killed for Christ therin in both estates This justifieth not but condemneth Rome the murderer of the Saincts Obj. To make this matter yet more plaine observe Zach. 2. 6. 7. Ho ho come forth c. Deliver thyself ô Sion that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon This plainly sheweth that Sion is in Babylon not mount Sion it self c. but the people of God that perteyned to Sion among whom when God set his Temple he sayd withall I wil dwell in the midst of you shewing that the Temple was a token of his presence among them a band of the holy and mutual conjunction that was between God and them whether they were bound to come for to worship God and to bring their sacrifices Answ. In deed this maketh the matter more plaine For 1. here he grāteth the Temple to have been a token of Gods presence among his people but when so I applied it in expounding 2. Thes. 2. he resisted me and would have it there to be the people the church 2. This temple the token of Gods presence and band of his communion with his people God had forsaken For his people synning in it by their idols Ezek. 8. God in wrath sent destroyers upon them Ezek. 9 But before destruction he marked his people on the forehead that cried out for all the abominations Which being doen he slayed to destruction all others not marked both old and yong and began at his sanctuarie Then scattred he coales of fyre over the citie removed his glorie the signe of his presence out of his Temple and from the middest of the citie to signifie his departure from amongst them Then came the king of Babylon Gods servant to execute his wrath and performed the vision in burning both Temple and citie and carying the people thence into Babylon So Moses prophesie was fulfylled Levit. 26. 31. 36. Then both such godly ones as had not been polluted with the abominations in Ierusalem and had been marked of God for his such synners also as by their afflictions were brought to repentance and confessed their iniquitie and the iniquitie of their fathers and had their uncircumcised harts humbled and turned unto him with all their hart and with all their soule he mercifully respected them remembred his covenant towards them The rest perished in their synns being given over in just judgment whiles they were in that dispersion to serve other goods wood and stone though yet by his prophets God warned them not to doe it Ier. 10. So the Lord set the signe of his gracious presence in the Christian church Rev. 4. but they soon defiled it by their idolatries heresies for which they were chastised Rev. 6. Wherfore God in justice ready to bring further plagues marketh and sealeth on the foreheads such as were his Rev. 7. then his judgments came forth in greater measure Rev. 8. by a beast or kingdom whose chief seat should be in Babylon that is Rome he suffered the Saincts to be overcome and gave him power over all kinreds and tongues and nations that such as had not their names written in the book of life should worship him and be damned for ever In which Babylon or Popish church the Lord hath notwithstanding his open witnesses that withstand their abominations unto the death and many moe of his elect whom he calleth out in his time from that whorish church and these are the people of God that perteyn to mount Sion and wil no more justifie the state of the church of Rome at this day then Gods lost sheep of Israel justified Babylon of old Obj. Note here 1. That the people of God pollute his temple become apostates and idolaters and are captived in Babylon Answ. But note withall that they have their temple of God and holy citie consumed with fyre and are caried out of their holy land into an other synfull nation as before is shewed 2. That thus now Sion is in Babylon and consequently the Temple of God so to speak the people of G. the church of G. is in Babylon Ans. So to speak But the speech is unproper and God no where speaketh so The visible Temple was burnt and they had none with them in Babylon but Bels temple none of the Lords The lost sheep the people of God perteyning to mount
he wrong me as if I made the church of Rome damned and dead for ever that is as if there could be no mercie shewed to the papists for repentance and turning to the Lord. They are onely the reprobate multitude which are damned and dead for ever Many of that church yea even of the hierarchie whom my opposite holdeth to bee the Man of syn the son of perdition being dead in their sins God hath in mercie revived and raised with Christ as he did in the churches of the Gentiles Eph. 2 1â— Coloss. 2. 〈◊〉 But such as are not raised from the death of Antichrist and quickned by Christ they perish for ever And wee speake of that Church now remaining in her synfull death unto which so continuing no salvation is promised but assured destruction threatned 2. Thes. 2. Rev. 14. 9. 10. 11. Thus we see how notwithstanding all his turning and winding and backing his errour with learned mens names these Gentiles the church of Antichrist and worshipers of the Man of syn are by the sentence of God dead in sins as were the Gentiles before Christ gave them life That such of them as the Lord shall in mercie raise up out of the grave of poperie shall escape the second death the rest doe remain under Gods wrath dead in syn and shall die in torment In the end to that which I shewed of that whores death otherweise and of her burning with fire Rev. 18. 7. 8 and of the joy which the heavenly multitude shal have at her destruction Rev. 18. 20. 1â— 1. 2. 3. mine opposite seemeth to assent referring it to the Citie resembled as he sayth by Babylon and Babylons destruction that was of old Rev. 18. with Ier. 50. 51. Thus the truth hath wrung out at last an acknowledgement from him as the feare and light of his conscience made him acknowledge at the first For he began with the Church of Rome thus acknowledging it to be fallen into most sinful and deep defection and apostasie and so to be a notorious harlot and idolatres This notorious harlot the holy Ghost calleth Babylon the great the mother of horlots and abominations of the earth Rev. 17. 5. which is meant of the Citie Rome v. 18. but of an ecclesiastical state such as is in that citie at this day And that Babylon or church it is whole destruction is threatned in Rev. 18. and for which there shall bee ioy and singing Alleluiah for that God hath judged the great whâ—re which did corrupt the earth with her fornication and shed the bloud of his servants Rev. 1â— 1. 2. 3. c. For the destruction of this great whore which in deed is no other then the Church of Rome mine opposite sayth with me they shal be so farr from mourning at her funeral as they shal rejoyce with the heavenly multitude and sing Hallelujah when the Lord hath given Sodoms judgement on her and they see her smoke rise up for evermore Rev. 19. 1. 2. 3. Of his own mouth now let him be judged with what truth equity conscience he hath pleaded for the church of Rome to bee the Temple of God the church of God in his covenant of grace and to have his baptisme the seale of his covenant even in that adulterous and most sinfull estate wherin she standeth at this day under her Pastor Antichrist whom she honoureth and worshipeth beleeving his lies serving his idols and trusting to merit heaven by the wicked works which that Man of syn hath taught her But that God for a reward of his popish errour in advancing the Ministers above the church and the pastor above his fellow ministers gave him over to this second errour who would have thought that a man of understanding would so bitterly have inveighted against me for denying her to be Christs true Church and that he would for defense of such a notorius harlot have forsaken and written against his own former good testimony which hee witnessed against her Gods counsels are unsearchable and let all that feare him heare what the Spirit sayth unto us Hearken unto me now therefore ôye children and attend to the words of my mouth Let not thine heart decline to her wayes goe not astray in her paths For shee hath east downe many wounded yea many strong men have been slain by her Her house is the way to hell going down to the chambers of death Prov. 7. 24 27. Of other Writers TO his citations of Polanus Keckerman c. I answered That diverse men were mistaken in judging of that rotten Church of Rome which would help these our opposites nothing who have seen and acknowledged better and now goe back And I instanced sundry others contrary minded as Mr. Carwright Mr. Perkins D. Fulk D. Willet Mr. Bale all our country men who deny the church of Rome to be the true Church of Christ. Mine opposite replieth that I say in particular of Polanus that he was mistaken and in this for that he sayd that Antichrist must sit in the Temple of God not Jewish or at Jerusalem but Christian c. wherein as his manner is he drepraveth both my words and meaning For I never dreamt that Antichrist should sit in the Iewish Temple at Ierusalem but in the Christian Church falsly so called as Mr. Iunius nameth it in Annot. on Rev. 11. But Polanus pleadeth otherwise for the church of Rome as mine opposite hath set down his words Chr. plea. p. 212. And in that I iudge he was mistaken and not I onely but many moe with me men of greater learning and before me though mine opposite leaveth it with this reproch That all in my judgement are mistaken hereabout but my selfe and my followers And presently after to that which I alleaged from Mr. Cartwright Perkins c. he wisheth they had written more advisedly and more soundly And why even for his former often refuted reasons of the Temple of God and Baptisme in that church wherein he doth but beg the question and answereth not them For I named to him Mr. Perkins reasons that the Papists doctrine doth rase the very foundation of Religion and his 4. arguments in a treatise for that purpose Now to these he answereth not one word But the Temple of God the Temple of God and Antichrist must sit in the Temple of God and Martyres out of the Church of Rome and where else had they their baptisme these are his common bucklers To which I have answered before And now that the Reader may further see how not I onely but many before me even such as he nameth in his book for him as D. Whitakers Mr. Broughton Mr. Brightman and others are direct against him I will set down their testimonies What Mr. Bale Mr. Cartwright D. Fulk M. Perkins and D. Willet have written I have shewed heretofore and them hee regardeth not Whereas Bellarmine would conclude from the protestants graunt that the church of Rome
living but their posteritie are meant for they perished in their synns save some few that turned to the Lord but their after generations found mercie Neyther can we deny if we rightly observe th'Apostles doctrine in Rom. 11. but those and the like promises made by the prophets doe belong to the Iewes even at this day though for the present they are without the covenant in their owne persons for when the fulnesse of the Gentiles is come in all Israel shal be saved sayth he as it is written There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer and shall turne away ungodlynes from Iakob And this is my covenant unto them when I shall take away their synns As concerning the Gospel they are enemies for your sakes but as touching the election beloved for the fathers The conditions propounded he observeth not namely Return thou backsliding Israel and J will not cause mine anger to fall upon you Onely acknowledge thine iniquitie c. But pleadeth as if they in that rebellious estate were still in their persons in the covenant of grace visibly though God because they returned not had given them the bill of divorce Contrary to the gospell which sayth If we say that we have fellowship with God and walk in darknes we lye and doe not the trueth If we confesse our synns he is faithfull and just to forgive us c. If we say that we have not synned we make him a lyar and his word is not in us 1. Ioh. 1. 6. 9. 10. Now this was Israels state they walked in darknes and synns and left all the Commandements of the Lord their God they would not turne from their evill wayes nor hear the Lords prophets nor beleeve in the Lord their God but walked in all the synns of Ieroboam they departed not from them until the Lord removed Israel out of his sight And if any of them after their dispersion returned to the Lord they were then received so also were the Gentiles that turned to him and so the Iewes at this day that come unto Christ. He distinguisheth not the times For their mariage with the Lord which he sayth the best writers expound of the covenant of grace if he referr it to the future time of Christ is true but then it will nothing help those unrepentant synners divorced from the Lord for by the bill of divorce the mariage is dissolved as before is proved If he referr it to former times it agreeth not with the scope of the prophesie as I shewed but if that be granted him then his best writers wil hardly prove it to meane the covenant of grace for better then they doe shew it to be the covenant of the Law even Ieremie himself and Paul his expositor For Ieremie in chap. 31. v. 32. useth the same word Baalti J was maried to them when he speaketh of the old covenant made when they came out of Egypt which was the covenant of workes not of grace though they were then also in the covenant of grace as they were in the faith of Christ. And Paul expoundeth that word Baalti according to the Greek version J regarded them not Heb. 8. 9. which is quite contrary to mine opposites purpose But it is usual in the Prophets to speak of things to come as already doen as Esaias prophesying of Christ sayth Unto us a child is borne Esai 9. 6. who was not borne til many yeres after And so here the Greek version so much approved in the new Testament expoundeth this word Baalti J am or was maried futurely thus For J wil rule over you and wil take you one of a citie and two of a familie and bring you into Sion so it is a prophesie of a future mariage with Christ and accordeth to the Apostles writing unto that people saying ye are an holy nation a peculiar people c which in time pass◠were not a people but are now the people of God which had not obteyned mercie but now have obteyned mercie 1 Pet. 2. 9. 10. When was the time that Israel were no people nor obteyned mercie unless when Lo-ammi and Lo-ruhamah were borne Hos. 1. 6. 9. and Ephraim was so broken that it was not a people Esai 7. 8. Thus Peter testifying they were no people by which name Moses calleth the Gentiles when they were estranged from God Deut. 32. 21. and Paul saying that God regarded them not or cared not for them because of their breach of covenant Heb. 8. 9. doe overthrow all my opposites plea for them in their most synfull and unrepentant estate That which he sayth from Jer. 3. 1. that God dealt otherweise herein then a man doth with his wife whom he putteth away c helpeth him not First he should say then a man might doe with his wife for it was syn for such a man to returne to his wife it polluted the land Jer. 3. 1. the reason wherof was the man by unjust divorce had caused his wife to be defiled as the law closely teacheth Deut. 24. 1. 4 which fault cannot be imputed to the Lord. Secondly the Lord dealeth likeweise with the Gentiles when they turne from their adulteries he receiveth them according to his former covenant and spiritual mariage with Noe and his seed Genes 9. 9. 16. Esai 54. 1. 4. 5. 9. 10. So the promise being conditional benefited not them that would not returne unto him The last point of the stablenes of Gods promise though but a few are made partakers of it Rom. 11. 1. 5. is true and concerneth as well the Gentiles as the Iewes for in all ages God brought some of the Gentiles into his grace as the whole historie of the scripture sheweth Wherfore it is marvel how he could so insist upon the promise made to the Iewes to their children in Act. 2. 39. wheras the promise of grace in Christ perteyned also to the Gentiles as is testified by all the Prophets Deut. 32. 43. Psal. 117. Esa. 19. 24. 2◠49. 1. 6. Ezek. 4◠22 And wheras next he digresseth to speak of Iudah and from Esa. 54. 4. compared with Ier. 51. 5. would shew how in one respect they were forsaken and bare the reproch of widowhood to weet by their captivity in Babylon and in an other respect they were not forsaken as a widow of the Lord who yet remembred his covenant to shew them mercie he foloweth his own wisdom in expounding the scriptures regardeth not the wisdom of God who elswhere hath opened that prophesie after a heavenly manner The prophet Esaias in chapt 53. foretold of Christ and of his suffrings and in chap. 54. he prophesieth of the Christian church and beginneth Sing joyfully ô barren woman thou that didst not beare for moe are the children of the desolate then the children of the maried wife sayth the Lord. This argument he goeth on to inlarge shewing the former shame and reproach which this