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A44841 The Quakers house built upon the rock Christ Wherein neither their doctrines, principles, nor practices can be confounded, not disproved; being neither damnable, nor pernitious. As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his book called, The Quakers house built upon the sand: or, a discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious doctrins, in his answer to G.W. which to prove, he lays down seven grounds of delusion, and five arguments of damnable doctrine. But in this answer his seven grounds is proved false in themselves, ...; and his five arguments is proved to be his own false positions, ... as first, he lays down false positions, and then proves them false; and then boasts, as if he had proved our doctrines or principles false: the truth of which is herein clearly made manifest, and wherein he falsly accuseth us, he is justly guilty himselfe. Also the ten fundamentall principles or doctrines of the hireling priest-hood, ... By a servant to the Church of Christ, ... Richard Hubberthorne. ... Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662. 1659 (1659) Wing H3227A; ESTC R221606 34,515 47

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sayst we 〈◊〉 so and so thou makes thy meaning the judge both of the Scriptures and of our 〈◊〉 but God will judge and condemn thy false meanings Again thou being asked what it was that was imputed unto Abraham for righteousnesse thy answer is It was the promised Seed which is Christ Here thou erres not knowing the Scripture as ●amos 2. 23. Abraham beleeved God and it was imputed unto him for righteousnesse his Faith was accounted unto him for righteousnesse but Faith is not called the promised Seed nor Christ And for thy saying If a men were never so godly and have nothing but his tears to pleade for him he must goe to Hell This is foolish ignoranc● the godly never went to Hell but it is like thou meant if he seemed to be godly but was not for we must 〈◊〉 have meanings to thy words which is contrary to thy words or else the substance of thy whole Volume will prove false But it is the day of the discovery of thy nakednesse Again in page 20. when thou art confuted about Baptisme and the Lords Supper thou sayst thou meant standing Ordinances and that thou meant that which the Pedobaptists and 〈◊〉 baptists use and so in every particular thou means anot●●● thing then thou speaks And in page 22. when thou 〈◊〉 that trying all things cost Solomon a sad Apostacy thou meant he fell into Apostacy but both thy former words and letter meaning is false Pr. Then thou would bring the Apostle for a cloake 〈◊〉 thy covetousnesse and saith thou hast warrant and example of the Apostle for receiving Wages Ans. Nay thou hast neither warrant nor example from him For he first Planted a Vineyard before he Eate of the Fruit And he first did sow spirituall things before he di● eate of the carnall things And he said Have we not power to eate and power to drinke But he did not say Have we no power to take tythes as thou art pleading for a power to take Tythes and so he is no example nor warrant for thee 〈◊〉 he said that the Priest-hood was changed and that the 〈◊〉 was changed by which Tythes were lawfull And 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 no example from Paul to be so many yeares at New-easi le and have yearely Wages above 100 livre. a yeare and yet not profit the people at all but rather harden their hearts against the truth and beget envy and wrath in them against the appearance of Christ in any so thou hast no warrant nor example from the Apostle for these things therefore make them no more a cloake for thy covetousnesse Pr. Againe thou brings Paul that for the greatnesse of his Wages the Primitive Saints layd downe their Estates at the Apostles feet Ans. But thou and thy brethren may long Preach before the people lay down their Estates at your feet for if they did you would spend it upon your lust and pride for your Gospel doth not open the hearts of people neither can they account you worthy to partake of their carnall things because they receive no spirituall things from you as the Saints did from the Apostles For that which he had received of the Lord did he deliver unto them But thy brethren and labourers in the vineyard with thee Henry Leavers Richard Franklings and Iosias Dockerey affirmed upon the 21. day of the seventh Moneth at Branspith castle that they have the Scriptures and their Gospel not from God but from men And to prove it said that Timothy received the Gospel not from God but from man viz. from Paul Therefore how can people lay down their Estates at your feet which doe but deliver unto them a Gospel received from Man For they can receive it from man or have it from the Printer for lesse money then they give you yearely for Wages And they need not give every yeare the tenth part of their increase for the Scripture and Gospel from man for they may have it for five shillings or lesse which will serve for many yeares Now the Apostle he was worthy and it was the least if when he had Ministered unto them spirituall things that he did eate and drink of their carnall things for the Gospel which he Preached he received it not of Man neither was he taught it but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ and so the people under his Ministery did not spend their money for that which was not Bread nor their labour for that which did not satisfie as they doe under your Ministery and therefore you must either make bargaines before-hand for your Wages or get a Law to compell them to pay Tythes as the complaint of many of your Priests is in this Nation that if it were left to the freedom of people they might starve the hearts of people is so hard What Gospel have you been Preaching all this while that peoples hearts is hard yet and that you dare not trust your Gospel nor your Church for food and rayment you are ashamed to all profession of godlinesse Did ever the Ministers of the Gospel of Christ starve for want of food and rayment where they had gathered Churches Or for Wages did they either goe to Law or take mens goods by violence as the Priests in England doe but while they have received no Gospel from God but from man how should it be otherwise so from man you have received the Gospel and from man you have received a Law to take tythes and so its another Gospel then Paul Preached For he received it not from man neither was he taught it by man but from God by the Revelation of Jesus Christ but now you can no longer be hid but are made to consesse to the glory of God the truth against your selves that people may no more receive you as sent of God nor to have a Message from God but from men according to your consession and your Gospel must needs be chargeable and burthensome to people contrary to that which the Apostle Preached Pr. In page 21. thou accuseth G. W. to be ignorant of the literall Knowledge of the Scriptures because he asks them Where the Levites had Houses and Lands and Tythes appointed of God for their service And thou brings these Scriptures Lev. 25. 32. and Numb. 35. 3. where it mentions what Cities they shall have to dwell in c. and brings Deut. 27. 21. which speaks nothing of the Priests Tythes Houses nor Lands but of another thing which is nothing to what thou would prove Ans. Here thou art Ignorant of the literall Knowledge of the Scriptures we never denyed that they had Houses and Cities to dwell in And what i● they had five and forty Cities with their Suburbs what is this to prove that they had Houses and Lands and Tythes for their s●rvice appointed of God Hast thou not read in Numb. 18. 20. where the Lord spoke unto Aaron saying thou shalt have no Inheritance in their Land neither shalt thou have any part among them I