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that_o as_o by_o the_o prevarication_n of_o the_o virgin_n eve_n all_o her_o posterity_n do_v suffer_v so_o by_o the_o obedience_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n to_o the_o angel_n message_n and_o by_o the_o bless_a fruit_n of_o her_o womb_n all_o man_n kind_n be_v comfort_v and_o relieve_v we_o have_v not_o ireneus_fw-la his_o work_n in_o greek_a as_o they_o be_v first_o write_v suppose_v his_o word_n he_o make_v use_v of_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o know_v that_o signify_v as_o well_o a_o comforter_n as_o a_o advocate_n the_o virgin_n mary_n have_v make_v amends_o for_o the_o transgression_n of_o her_o sex_n in_o our_o mother_n eve_n this_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o that_o comparison_n in_o the_o father_n phil._n what_o sense_n you_o will_v fix_v upon_o his_o word_n i_o see_v must_v pass_v for_o currant_n bellarmin_n bring_v the_o testimony_n of_o pope_n cornelius_n in_o the_o three_o century_n between_o who_o and_o s_o t_o cyprian_a there_o past_o many_o letter_n
against_o any_o desire_n that_o the_o faithful_a live_n shall_v assist_v we_o with_o their_o prayer_n theoph._n you_o shall_v not_o join_v together_o the_o mediation_n &_o intercession_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o saint_n whether_o in_o heaven_n or_o earth_n and_o you_o may_v observe_v the_o father_n speak_v of_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d intercessor_n in_o the_o plural_a as_o of_o many_o imply_v that_o one_o be_v our_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n even_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n 1_o tim._n 2._o 5._o and_o withal_o the_o testimony_n be_v sufficient_a against_o that_o fond_a conceit_n that_o we_o be_v unworthy_a to_o draw_v near_o to_o god_n in_o our_o own_o person_n but_o by_o other_o intercession_n phil._n you_o will_v draw_v out_o your_o discourse_n in_o infinitum_fw-la by_o your_o rejoinder_n and_o remark_n but_o i_o have_v to_o a_o end_n the_o second_o greek_a father_n i_o propose_v be_v theodoret_n a_o learned_a bishop_n of_o cyprus_n who_o in_o 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his_o judgement_n to_o pronounce_v nestorius_n accurse_v yet_o we_o honour_v his_o great_a learning_n and_o let_v his_o memory_n be_v precious_a phil._n i_o be_o glad_a to_o discover_v your_o moderation_n for_o there_o be_v another_o most_o considerable_a testimony_n out_o of_o he_o full_a to_o the_o point_n of_o saint_n invocation_n affectibus_fw-la invocation_n libro_fw-la 8._o de_fw-fr curandis_fw-la graec_fw-la affectibus_fw-la the_o temple_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v magnificent_a &_o beautiful_a in_o they_o we_o often_o keep_v festival_n &_o such_o as_o enjoy_v health_n pray_v to_o the_o martyr_n to_o preserve_v it_o such_o as_o be_v sick_a desire_n health_n of_o they_o man_n and_o woman_n who_o be_v unfruitful_a ask_v of_o they_o child_n such_o as_o go_v a_o journey_n desire_v their_o conduct_n and_o after_o their_o safe_a return_n they_o pay_v their_o thanks_o to_o they_o owe_v their_o security_n to_o their_o favour_n now_o say_v he_o they_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o these_o 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the_o person_n of_o theodoret_n or_o rather_o with_o the_o book_n itself_o which_o 54._o which_o niceph._n l._n 44_o c._n 54._o nicephorus_n do_v not_o reckon_v up_o among_o theodoret_n work_n when_o he_o give_v a_o account_n of_o all_o his_o book_n these_o 8_o book_n de_fw-fr curandis_fw-la graecorum_n affectibus_fw-la be_v not_o mention_v etc._n mention_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n those_o which_o he_o write_v be_v these_o etc._n etc._n and_o withal_o your_o learned_a cardinal_n know_v well_o that_o what_o theodoret_n if_o this_o book_n be_v he_o do_v build_v with_o one_o hand_n he_o pull_v down_o with_o another_o as_o to_o this_o point_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n for_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o 2_o do_v chap._n of_o s_n t_o paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n vers_fw-la 18_o let_v no_o man_n beguile_v you_o of_o your_o reward_n in_o a_o voluntary_a humility_n and_o worship_v of_o angel_n i_o say_v theodoret_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o this_o place_n cut_v off_o the_o sinew_n and_o foundation_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n invocation_n he_o show_v how_o some_o jewish_a christian_n in_o phrygia_n and_o pisidia_n be_v zealous_a of_o the_o law_n do_v worship_n angel_n by_o who_o the_o law_n be_v give_v and_o build_v temple_n to_o s_o t_o michael_n and_o other_o and_o that_o this_o course_n continue_v long_o among_o they_o etc._n they_o bin._n council_n lacd_a tom._n 1._o can_v 35._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o that_o in_o the_o 4_o the_o century_n a_o council_n of_o bishop_n in_o laodicea_n the_o metropolis_n of_o phrygia_n near_o neighbour_n to_o colosse_n do_v express_o forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o angel_n call_v it_o idolatry_n that_o christian_n ought_v not_o to_o leave_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o depart_v and_o call_v upon_o the_o angel_n and_o make_v assembly_n and_o if_o any_o be_v find_v to_o be_v conversant_a in_o this_o hide_a idolatry_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v now_o this_o voluntary_a humility_n which_o s_n to_o paul_n mention_n refer_v to_o that_o humble_a pretence_n that_o sinner_n be_v not_o worthy_a to_o draw_v near_o to_o god_n themselves_o but_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n &_o angel_n intrude_a into_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o have_v not_o see_v vain_o puff_v up_o in_o his_o fleshly_a mind_n say_v the_o apostle_n that_o be_v say_v theodoret_n cogitationibus_fw-la theodoret_n propriis_fw-la utens_fw-la rationibus_fw-la &_o cogitationibus_fw-la use_v his_o own_o reason_n and_o imagination_n etc._n etc._n now_o say_v he_o the_o angelos_n the_o synodus_fw-la volens_fw-la veteri_fw-la illi_fw-la morbo_fw-la mederi_fw-la cavit_fw-la ne_fw-la precarentur_fw-la angelos_n synod_n of_o laodicea_n desire_v to_o cure_v this_o old_a decease_n forbid_v they_o to_o pray_v unto_o angel_n and_o you_o will_v grant_v if_o we_o must_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n neither_o to_o the_o saint_n for_o you_o have_v derive_v chief_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n from_o that_o of_o angel_n phil._n 20._o phil._n ibid._n cap._n 20._o bellarmin_n have_v answer_v this_o passage_n of_o theodoret_n and_o of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n and_o the_o text_n of_o the_o apostle_n together_o namely_o etc._n namely_o apostolum_n damnare_fw-la haeresin_fw-la simenis_fw-la magi_n qui_fw-la decuit_fw-la angelos_n quasi_fw-la minres_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o apostle_n condemn_v the_o heresy_n of_o simon_n magus_n who_o teach_v like_a plato_n that_o the_o angel_n shall_v be_v worship_n as_o lesser_a deity_n and_o that_o none_o can_v please_v the_o invisible_a god_n but_o by_o the_o angel_n and_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o council_n propria_fw-la council_n concilium_fw-la non_fw-la damnat_fw-la quamvis_fw-la venerationem_fw-la ang._n sed_fw-la quae_fw-la deo_fw-la propria_fw-la do_v not_o condemn_v all_o worship_n of_o angel_n but_o only_o such_o veneration_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n theoph._n observe_v the_o incongruity_n of_o this_o answer_n as_o to_o several_a particular_n he_o say_v the_o council_n condemn_v not_o all_o veneration_n of_o angel_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n the_o supreme_a deity_n and_o yet_o according_a to_o his_o own_o relation_n simon_n magas_n and_o the_o jewish_a christian_n that_o worship_v angel_n do_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o the_o supreme_a deity_n but_o only_o as_o subordinate_a intercessor_n and_o s_o t_o paul_n and_o the_o council_n of_o laoduea_n condemn_v this_o that_o in_o voluntary_a humility_n they_o shall_v deprive_v themselves_o of_o that_o privilege_n to_o come_v to_o god_n themselves_o and_o so_o make_v way_n unto_o he_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o angel_n the_o apostle_n therefore_o and_o the_o council_n sorbid_v this_o inferior_a worship_n as_o theodoret_n observe_v angelos_n observe_v ne_fw-fr precarentur_fw-la angelos_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o pray_v to_o the_o angel_n to_o make_v way_n for_o they_o unto_o the_o great_a god_n and_o in_o the_o next_o chap._n of_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n vers_fw-la 17._o the_o apostle_n
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