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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n prove_v a_o catholic_n church_n make_v up_o of_o all_o church_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o they_o deny_v jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 146_o we_o ask_v whether_o if_o they_o murder_v he_o will_v not_o this_o nullify_v his_o office_n and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o their_o sin_n other_o way_n make_v void_a the_o office_n also_o object_n mr._n poole_n say_v we_o confound_v the_o nullify_n of_o the_o office_n and_o the_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o 2._o he_o demand_v whether_o this_o hold_n of_o the_o apostle_n or_o no_o whether_o if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n and_o that_o prove_v heretical_a and_o vote_v down_o the_o apostle_n will_v this_o make_v their_o office_n null_n or_o no_o he_o say_v this_o follow_v upon_o our_o principle_n for_o the_o church_n the_o correlate_n cease_v they_o must_v needs_o cease_v also_o &_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la and_o we_o allow_v the_o institution_n and_o constitution_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o the_o people_n in_o the_o same_o page_n he_o tell_v the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act_v 1_o he_o add_v that_o this_o doctrine_n render_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o man_n lust_n and_o humour_n to_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o christ_n &_o the_o authority_n end_n and_o use_v of_o christ_n ambassador_n for_o now_o there_o be_v none_o but_o ordinary_a minister_n and_o he_o suppose_v but_o twenty_o congregation_n in_o the_o world_n and_o each_o of_o these_o may_v resolve_v several_o to_o eject_v their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o what_o he_o express_v in_o many_o word_n mr._n poole_n pag._n 32._o 33._o ans_fw-fr 1._o we_o have_v not_o confound_v but_o clear_o distinguish_v between_o nullify_a the_o office_n and_o hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o it_o as_o he_o that_o shall_v impartial_o read_v our_o book_n may_v see_v 2._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n the_o apostle_n be_v neither_o of_o man_n nor_o by_o man_n but_o be_v make_v by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o it_o do_v belong_v only_o to_o christ_n to_o null_n their_o office_n because_o ejusdem_fw-la est_fw-la instituere_fw-la &_o destituere_fw-la but_o we_o can_v but_o complain_v that_o mr._n poole_n have_v here_o offer_v abundance_n of_o wrong_n to_o we_o in_o report_v to_o the_o world_n that_o we_o say_v apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n by_o the_o church_n allege_v act._n 1._o and_o not_o content_v himself_o with_o sayit_n once_o he_o come_v over_o with_o it_o again_o towards_o the_o end_n of_o pag._n 32._o of_o his_o book_n whereas_o we_o have_v express_v the_o contrary_a and_o that_o in_o express_a term_n in_o speak_v to_o act_v 1._o which_o he_o say_v we_o allege_v for_o it_o let_v any_o one_o read_v our_o book_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 268._o where_o we_o use_v these_o word_n this_o be_v but_o half_a a_o election_n and_o that_o be_v the_o reason_n why_o it_o do_v not_o constitute_v mathias_n a_o apostle_n as_o appear_v because_o the_o choose_n of_o the_o one_o which_o be_v by_o god_n be_v the_o constitute_v act_n act_n 1._o 24._o etc._n etc._n by_o which_o any_o one_o may_v see_v that_o we_o deny_v the_o apostle_n to_o be_v constitute_v by_o the_o church_n and_o assert_v it_o to_o be_v by_o god_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v do_v we_o much_o injury_n in_o this_o report_n 3._o suppose_v a_o church_n murther_v its_o officer_n either_o he_o must_v say_v that_o they_o be_v officer_n after_o they_o be_v dead_a which_o be_v absurd_a or_o else_o he_o must_v grant_v that_o the_o sin_n of_o a_o people_n may_v nullify_v the_o office_n of_o a_o minister_n which_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n deny_v 4._o no_o supposition_n may_v be_v allow_v which_o impli_v a_o contradiction_n to_o any_o divine_a promise_n for_o god_n be_v faithful_a and_o therefore_o will_v restrain_v from_o every_o act_n that_o will_v render_v any_o promise_n void_a some_o supposition_n may_v be_v admit_v of_o but_o not_o such_o as_o be_v against_o promise_n otherwise_o we_o may_v answer_v he_o with_o a_o other_o himself_o suppose_v p._n 32._o that_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v be_v confine_v to_o one_o congregation_n if_o the_o elder_n possible_o but_o two_o or_o three_o shall_v excommunicate_v that_o whole_a church_n they_o shall_v by_o this_o juridical_a act_n how_o un_fw-we just_a soever_o nullify_v the_o promise_n of_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n mat._n 16._o 18._o as_o much_o as_o by_o his_o supposition_n the_o people_n shall_v nullify_v the_o promise_n about_o officer_n in_o such_o a_o case_n two_o or_o three_o elder_n can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v the_o universal_a church_n and_o officer_n to_o it_o also_o and_o if_o there_o be_v not_o a_o church_n &_o officer_n set_v in_o it_o either_o the_o promise_n about_o officer_n or_o the_o church_n must_v fail_v if_o supposition_n against_o promise_n be_v allow_v and_o in_o what_o a_o sad_a condition_n than_o will_v the_o church_n be_v in_o for_o there_o will_v be_v none_o to_o appeal_v to_o and_o thus_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 34_o 35._o upon_o himself_o or_o we_o may_v suppose_v that_o persecutor_n be_v most_o of_o the_o world_n may_v murder_v that_o one_o congregation_n which_o he_o improper_o call_v the_o catholic_a church_n be_v but_o few_o its_o true_a the_o act_n will_v differ_v one_o be_v a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n the_o other_o a_o juridical_a act_n but_o both_o be_v equal_o possible_a and_o so_o a_o supposition_n may_v be_v take_v from_o one_o as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o other_o and_o therefore_o he_o can_v get_v nothing_o from_o such_o supposal_n the_o monstrous_a opinion_n follow_v upon_o his_o own_o principle_n suppose_v but_o twenty_o minister_n in_o the_o world_n who_o only_o have_v power_n according_a to_o he_o to_o ordain_v and_o they_o through_o treachery_n and_o frowardness_n shall_v refuse_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o power_n for_o a_o succession_n they_o die_v and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n be_v nullify_v neither_o do_v his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n pag._n 33._o 34._o take_v off_o this_o for_o here_o the_o case_n be_v not_o whole_o different_a here_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n to_o assert_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v give_v to_o minister_n a_o juridical_a power_n as_o they_o judge_v that_o of_o ordination_n to_o be_v by_o the_o abuse_n of_o which_o they_o may_v if_o they_o please_v disannul_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o our_o argument_n for_o man_n being_n officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a be_v vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n which_o mr._n pool_n bring_v against_o they_o some_o argument_n we_o use_v to_o prove_v that_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 35._o den_n yes_o the_o major_a of_o our_o first_o syllogism_n but_o meddle_v not_o with_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o so_o it_o remain_v firm_a still_o to_o prove_v our_o minor_a we_o use_v this_o argument_n arg._n 1._o all_o that_o flock_n or_o church_n over_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v a_o man_n a_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n he_o be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o and_o sin_v if_o he_o do_v not_o but_o no_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o universal_a church_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la ob._n mr._n pool_n
pag._n 35._o deny_v the_o major_a and_o say_v a_o minister_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n and_o add_v every_o apostle_n be_v a_o catholics_n pastor_n and_o so_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o but_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n and_o all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o his_o denial_n of_o the_o major_n be_v little_o better_a than_o a_o denial_n of_o the_o very_a word_n of_o scripture_n for_o the_o apostle_n say_v act_n 20._o 28._o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o flock_n over_o the_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v make_v you_o overseer_n to_o feed_v the_o church_n etc._n etc._n be_v it_o not_o plain_a that_o actual_a feed_n be_v enjoin_v and_o that_o not_o only_o some_o but_o all_o a_o man_n flock_n be_v thus_o to_o be_v say_v 2._o this_o do_v not_o answer_v our_o argument_n but_o leave_v we_o under_o a_o new_a seem_a difficulty_n 3._o if_o his_o reason_n shall_v be_v whole_o grant_v we_o do_v not_o see_v how_o it_o justify_v his_o denial_n of_o our_o major_n or_o take_v away_o the_o force_n of_o our_o argument_n and_o have_v he_o not_o leave_v out_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o syllogism_n he_o may_v easy_o have_v see_v it_o himself_o for_o the_o utmost_a he_o can_v conclude_v from_o those_o premise_n be_v but_o this_o ergo_fw-la every_o catholic_a pastor_n who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v the_o whole_a church_n all_o nation_n etc._n etc._n and_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o purpose_n if_o every_o catholic_a pastor_n or_o every_o one_o who_o have_v the_o whole_a church_n for_o his_o flock_n be_v not_o will_v it_o follow_v hence_o that_o no_o officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n may_v there_o not_o be_v some_o officer_n who_o have_v no_o such_o large_a flock_n and_o may_v stand_v under_o such_o obligation_n if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o yet_o may_v not_o every_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o his_o flock_n what_o shadow_n ofa_fw-mi consequence_n be_v here_o this_o may_v be_v enough_o in_o answer_n to_o that_o which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v a_o unanswerable_a reason_n but_o that_o his_o reason_n take_v not_o away_o the_o force_n of_o our_o argument_n we_o may_v evidence_n these_o way_n 1._o because_o the_o impossibility_n of_o every_o apostle_n look_v to_o all_o the_o church_n be_v the_o reason_n which_o himself_o give_v pag._n 7_o 8._o why_o they_o do_v it_o not_o but_o our_o argument_n be_v draw_v from_o a_o command_n to_o ordinary_a officer_n fix_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n all_o which_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o they_o actual_o to_o feed_v and_o so_o the_o case_n run_v not_o parallel_v and_o that_o a_o universal_a church_n shall_v be_v their_o flock_n the_o hundred_o it_o may_v be_v the_o thousand_o part_n whereof_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o fixedness_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n they_o can_v never_o feed_v and_o yet_o be_v command_v to_o feed_v all_o their_o flock_n who_o can_v imagine_v it_o or_o do_v not_o such_o a_o command_v rather_o determine_v their_o particular_a flock_n to_o be_v all_o over_o which_o they_o be_v make_v overseer_n 2._o because_o the_o apostle_n have_v immediate_a direction_n from_o god_n which_o give_v they_o a_o dispensation_n for_o a_o actual_a feed_v every_o church_n 3._o because_o if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o command_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o that_o flock_n or_o all_z those_o church_n that_o they_o have_v liberty_n by_o their_o commission_n to_o act_v as_o officer_n towards_o seeing_z every_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v command_v to_o feed_v all_o the_o flock_n he_o be_v a_o overseer_n to_o acts._n 20._o 28._o hence_o his_o suppose_a unanswerable_a reason_n fail_v in_o the_o main_a thing_n it_o shall_v prove_v if_o mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o be_v speak_v to_o this_o or_o that_o apostle_n single_o than_o that_o be_v a_o command_n of_o actual_a teach_n and_o baptise_v every_o apostle_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v or_o teach_v all_o nation_n and_o then_o his_o minor_a be_v untrue_a but_o if_o it_o be_v speak_v to_o all_o the_o apostle_n together_o v._o 16._o 19_o 20._o then_o if_o every_o apostle_n be_v not_o oblige_v actual_o to_o feed_v all_o church_n or_o all_o nation_n yet_o all_o the_o apostle_n together_o do_v actual_o feed_v all_o the_o church_n in_o that_o age_n and_o be_v oblige_v to_o do_v it_o and_o all_o officer_n together_o in_o after_o age_n be_v under_o the_o like_a obligation_n yet_o no_o one_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v oblige_v actual_o to_o teach_v all_o nation_n but_o every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o feed_v all_o the_o flock_n over_o which_o he_o be_v make_v a_o overseer_n arg._n 2._o if_o officer_n now_o be_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v care_n of_o all_o the_o universal_a church_n than_o their_o power_n be_v as_o extensive_a &_o large_a as_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n pr●_n sent._n p._n 11._o obj._n the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n but_o in_o the_o independency_n superiority_n and_o singularity_n of_o jurisdiction_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 36._o answ_n 1._o if_o this_o be_v true_a yet_o it_o prove_v what_o we_o produce_v it_o for_o viz._n that_o no_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v command_v actual_o to_o feed_v and_o take_v heed_n to_o all_o the_o unisal_n church_n for_o himself_o grant_v pag._n 6._o that_o it_o be_v peculiar_a to_o the_o apostle_n to_o be_v actual_o minister_n to_o the_o whole_a church_n 2._o but_o that_o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n seem_v to_o we_o very_o false_a for_o 1._o apostle_n have_v universality_n of_o jurisdiction_n ergo_fw-la apostles_n have_v generality_n of_o relation_n ordinary_a officer_n have_v not_o universality_n of_o jurisdiction_n ergo_fw-la ordinary_a officer_n have_v not_o generality_n of_o relation_n nomans_n jurisdiction_n can_v be_v extend_v beyond_o his_o relation_n and_o therefore_o none_o can_v deny_v the_o apostle_n universality_n of_o relation_n and_o that_o ordinary_a officer_n have_v so_o extensive_a a_o jurisdiction_n let_v he_o prove_v that_o will_v assert_v it_o 2._o as_o apostles_n have_v general_a relation_n so_o they_o be_v under_o obligation_n to_o actual_a discharge_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o relation_n in_o like_a extent_n 2_o corin._n 11._o 28._o and_o so_o be_v the_o church_n towards_o they_o but_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o under_o a_o obligation_n for_o the_o actual_a discharge_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o their_o relation_n to_o all_o church_n as_o we_o have_v already_o prove_v from_o act_n 20_o 28._o 1_o pet._n 5._o 2._o neither_o be_v all_o church_n under_o such_o obligation_n to_o duty_n towards_o they_o as_o their_o officer_n either_o ●o_o submit_v or_o afford_v maintenance_n etc._n etc._n to_o they_o and_o therefore_o ordinary_a officer_n relation_n do_v not_o extend_v to_o all_o church_n 3._o apostle_n general_a relation_n oblige_v they_o to_o a_o itinerant_a execution_n of_o their_o office_n so_o as_o they_o can_v not_o fix_v in_o any_o church_n but_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o engage_v to_o such_o a_o execution_n but_o by_o divine_a appointment_n be_v fix_v in_o some_o one_o church_n and_o be_v bind_v there_o to_o reside_v which_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o such_o a_o relation_n as_o the_o apostle_n have_v 4._o the_o general_a relation_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v so_o special_a as_o all_o church_n may_v plead_v a_o like_a interest_n in_o they_o and_o call_v they_o their_o officer_n with_o ordinary_a officer_n it_o be_v not_o so_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o be_v judge_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 143._o if_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v not_o equal_o relate_v to_o all_o church_n they_o be_v not_o at_o all_o relate_v to_o they_o 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apostle_n have_v not_o this_o gift_n of_o prediction_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 77._o answ_n there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n in_o this_o chapter_n or_o elsewhere_o to_o evidence_n that_o these_o prophet_n have_v any_o such_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o infallible_a teach_n by_o immediate_a revelation_n there_o be_v as_o great_a a_o silence_n about_o this_o as_o the_o other_o that_o divers_a of_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o the_o gift_n of_o prediction_n prove_v that_o they_o be_v not_o extraordinary_a prophet_n but_o how_o this_o be_v against_o we_o we_o know_v not_o for_o they_o have_v a_o extraordinary_a office_n upon_o they_o viz._n their_o apostle-ship_n though_o they_o be_v not_o prophet_n ob._n 2._o i_o be_o prone_a to_o conceive_v that_o the_o prediction_n of_o future_a event_n be_v rather_o a_o privilege_n indulge_v to_o some_o new_a testament_n prophet_n then_o common_a to_o all_o prophet_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 77._o an._n 1._o we_o have_v no_o leisure_n to_o 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be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o a_o public_a place_n the_o temple_n and_o to_o speak_v to_o all_o etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o shall_v speak_v only_o in_o a_o private_a way_n or_o several_o to_o they_o be_v irrational_a to_o imagine_v and_o a_o mere_a shift_n as_o to_o what_o he_o say_v pag._n 80._o 81._o it_o have_v very_o little_a weight_n in_o it_o for_o he_o grant_v 1._o that_o doctrine_n be_v ordinary_a and_o give_v no_o probable_a ground_n that_o here_o it_o must_v be_v extraordinary_a as_o for_o the_o office_n be_v extraordinary_a it_o be_v confute_v already_o 2._o that_o there_o be_v ordinary_a revelation_n and_o his_o reason_n to_o prove_v extraordinary_a revelation_n to_o be_v here_o intend_v be_v very_o weak_a object_n 1._o the_o word_n be_v of_o the_o present_a tense_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d if_o it_o be_v reveal_v not_o if_o it_o have_v be_v reveal_v mr._n pool_n pag._n 80._o answ_n 1._o dr._n collings_n will_v tell_v he_o the_o enallage_n of_o tense_n be_v very_o ordinary_a in_o scripture_n vind._n revind_n pag_n 107._o it_o be_v say_v roman_a 1._o ver_fw-la 17._o the_o righteousness_n of_o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v reveal_v yet_o this_o do_v not_o deny_v either_o that_o it_o be_v reveal_v before_o or_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v afterward_o so_o if_o it_o be_v in_o the_o presence_n tense_n if_o it_o be_v reveal_v this_o will_v not_o deny_v the_o revelation_n of_o the_o thing_n to_o be_v before_o 2_o it_o be_v one_o of_o mr._n pool_n gross_a mistake_n that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v in_o the_o present_a tense_n for_o 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o first_o aorist_n &_o it_o be_v general_o render_v thus_o si_fw-la revelatum_fw-la fuerit_n si_fw-la patefactum_fw-la fuerit_fw-la not_o if_o any_o thing_n be_v at_o present_a but_o if_o any_o thing_n have_v be_v reveal_v so_o that_o quite_o contrary_a to_o what_o mr._n pool_n say_v the_o very_a tense_n do_v intimate_v that_o they_o have_v the_o revelation_n before_o their_o sit_v by_o and_o thus_o his_o argument_n be_v build_v upon_o a_o mere_a mistake_n object_n 2._o the_o posture_n in_o which_o it_o be_v reveal_v when_o he_o sit_v by_o pag._n 80._o answ_n it_o only_o intimate_v what_o posture_n they_o be_v in_o after_o the_o thing_n be_v reveal_v as_o be_v already_o prove_v not_o what_o posture_n they_o be_v in_o at_o the_o time_n of_o their_o revelation_n one_o that_o be_v sit_v by_o have_v the_o revelation_n but_o that_o he_o have_v it_o whil_v he_o be_v sit_v by_o the_o word_n prove_v not_o in_o the_o least_o object_n 3._o this_o revelation_n be_v not_o common_a to_o all_o the_o prophet_n but_o peculiar_a to_o one_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d some_o one_o that_o sit_v by_o and_o therefore_o sure_o it_o can_v be_v the_o revelation_n by_o the_o word_n which_o be_v common_a to_o all_o the_o prophet_n yea_o all_o the_o church_n pag._n 80._o answ_n 1._o if_o this_o revelation_n be_v not_o common_a to_o all_o the_o prophet_n than_o it_o will_v prove_v a_o argument_n against_o he_o if_o such_o extraordinary_a revelation_n be_v intend_v for_o we_o may_v argue_v thus_o those_o to_o who_o extraordinary_a revelation_n be_v not_o common_a be_v but_o ordinary_a prophet_n for_o they_o can_v be_v extraordinary_a prophet_n without_o such_o extraordinary_a gift_n but_o some_o of_o the_o prophet_n 1_o cor._n 14._o be_v such_o say_v mr._n pool_n to_o who_o extraordinary_a revelation_n be_v not_o common_a ergo_fw-la some_o of_o the_o prophet_n 1_o cor._n 14._o be_v but_o ordinary_a prophet_n sure_o therefore_o upon_o second_o thought_n mr._n pool_n will_v say_v it_o be_v common_a to_o all_o these_o prophet_n to_o have_v these_o revelation_n at_o one_o time_n or_o another_o though_o at_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a time_n it_o be_v peculiar_a to_o one_o or_o two_o to_o have_v they_o and_o then_o we_o answer_v 2._o it_o be_v be_v peculiar_a to_o some_o one_o to_o have_v they_o do_v not_o prove_v his_o have_v they_o by_o immediate_a inspiration_n but_o only_o intimate_v a_o possibility_n of_o other_o come_v without_o preparation_n because_o all_o the_o prophet_n may_v not_o come_v prepare_v by_o premeditation_n to_o prophesy_v therefore_o it_o may_v apt_o be_v say_v if_o any_o thing_n be_v reveal_v to_o one_o that_o sit_v by_o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o it_o may_v be_v mean_v of_o ordinary_a revelation_n by_o the_o word_n which_o be_v common_a to_o to_o all_o the_o church_n to_o have_v in_o some_o degree_n though_o it_o be_v not_o common_a to_o all_o the_o prophet_n to_o have_v at_o this_o or_o that_o time_n in_o such_o a_o degree_n as_o to_o be_v in_o readiness_n to_o prophesy_v as_o now_o a_o day_n its_o ordinary_a for_o many_o minister_n to_o go_v to_o a_o lecture_n and_o sit_v
their_o argument_n against_o gift_a man_n preach_v without_o ordination_n he_o rehearse_v our_o argument_n leave_v out_o a_o great_a part_n of_o their_o strength_n and_o put_v in_o his_o own_o exception_n against_o they_o and_o then_o mention_v the_o head_n of_o their_o argument_n without_o our_o exception_n against_o they_o and_o yet_o pretend_v pag._n 116._o not_o to_o take_v at_o advantage_n but_o to_o set_v the_o best_a gloss_n upon_o our_o cause_n in_o which_o sure_o no_o reader_n will_v believe_v he_o chap._n xii_o concern_v election_n as_o belong_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n there_o be_v three_o scripture_n chief_o urge_v to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o election_n to_o belong_v to_o a_o church_n viz._n act._n 1._o act_n 6._o and_o act._n 14._o many_o of_o our_o answer_n to_o objection_n against_o these_o proof_n we_o have_v no_o reply_n to_o and_o so_o we_o shall_v but_o touch_v upon_o thing_n here_o and_o refer_v the_o reader_n unto_o our_o former_a book_n and_o to_o our_o reply_n to_o dr._n collings_n for_o a_o full_a answer_n 1._o the_o first_o scripture_n be_v act._n 1._o 23._o object_n it_o be_v not_o a_o exhortation_n to_o choose_v nor_o a_o direction_n in_o choose_v here_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o the_o piety_n etc._n etc._n of_o the_o person_n but_o only_o a_o declaration_n that_o one_o must_v be_v choose_v etc._n etc._n however_o it_o be_v fit_v the_o people_n shall_v consent_v pag._n 120._o answ_n 1._o here_o he_o plain_o contradict_v the_o provincial_a assembly_n for_o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o a_o direction_n in_o choose_v they_o say_v jus_fw-la divin_n min._n pag._n 127._o they_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v in_o their_o choice_n by_o the_o eleven_o apostle_n and_o seek_v to_o prove_v it_o from_o ver_fw-la 21_o 22._o how_o shall_v we_o answer_v both_o 2._o qualification_n be_v set_v down_o ver_fw-la 21._o and_o the_o man_n and_o brethren_n in_o the_o meeting_n be_v speak_v to_o ver_fw-la 16._o it_o be_v clear_a that_o they_o be_v the_o person_n choose_v ver_fw-la 23._o 2._o the_o second_o place_n be_v act._n 6._o object_n 1._o regulation_n by_o dead_a law_n and_o rule_n be_v no_o prejudice_n to_o the_o people_n sole_a power_n in_o election_n but_o a_o regulation_n by_o live_a judge_n do_v destroy_v it_o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v refuse_v any_o of_o those_o choose_v by_o the_o people_n upon_o just_a ground_n will_v they_o have_v be_v deacon_n if_o not_o than_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n consist_v not_o in_o election_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 121._o answ_n 1._o paul_n be_v as_o much_o a_o live_a judge_n when_o he_o do_v write_v ●o_o timothy_n and_o titus_n as_o the_o apostle_n be_v act_v 6._o yet_o he_o give_v rule_n for_o regulation_n 1_o tim._n 3._o ver_fw-la 2._o 3._o tit._n 〈◊〉_d ver_fw-la 6●_n and_o if_o ordination_n be_v aim_v at_o here_o either_o these_o rule_n of_o regulation_n destroy_v the_o power_n of_o timothy_n and_o titus_n in_o ordination_n or_o else_o those_o rule_n act_n 6._o do_v not_o destroy_v the_o people_n power_n of_o election_n and_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o question_n upon_o he_o if_o paul_n have_v upon_o just_a ground_n refuse_v any_o of_o those_o ordain_v by_o timothy_n and_o titus_n will_v they_o have_v be_v officer_n if_o not_o then_o according_a to_o his_o argue_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n consist_v not_o in_o ordination_n 2._o if_o they_o choose_v person_n due_o qualify_v the_o apostle_n can_v not_o refuse_v they_o 3._o if_o the_o apostle_n have_v a_o negative_a voice_n in_o case_n person_n be_v not_o right_o qualify_v yet_o that_o will_v not_o deny_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o election_n to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n for_o their_o affirmitive_a voice_n may_v be_v only_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la not_o causa_fw-la formalis_fw-la of_o the_o election_n as_o himself_o tell_v we_o pag._n 13●_n we_o may_v urge_v his_o instance_n there_o against_o what_o he_o say_v here_o and_o they_o will_v be_v as_o strong_a for_o we_o as_o for_o he_o and_o this_o answer_v what_o follow_v if_o the_o apostle_n refuse_v any_o choose_v will_v have_v hinder_v their_o be_v deacon_n as_o p._n 121._o or_o the_o want_n of_o ordination_n will_v have_v make_v election_n null_n as_o he_o say_v pag._n 122._o yet_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n may_v consist_v in_o election_n for_o their_o approbation_n or_o ordination_n may_v be_v only_o causa_fw-la sine_fw-la qua_fw-la non_fw-la they_o may_v not_o be_v essential_a though_o they_o can_v not_o be_v without_o they_o but_o it_o be_v he_o that_o forget_v not_o we_o for_o the_o present_a question_n be_v about_o the_o people_n power_n of_o choose_v not_o about_o election_n as_o essential_a to_o a_o call_v nor_o of_o apostle_n power_n in_o election_n as_o to_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 123._o about_o argue_v a_o minori_fw-la ad_fw-la majus_fw-la affirmative_a we_o answer_v it_o be_v mr._n pool_n that_o run_v upon_o the_o gross_a mistake_n for_o our_o argument_n be_v fetch_v from_o the_o same_o canon_n that_o there_o be_v be_v as_o any_o one_o may_v plain_o see_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 224._o and_o whether_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o great_a to_o the_o less_o affirmative_o be_v not_o urge_v in_o the_o scripture_n we_o mention_v pag._n 226._o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v another_o canon_n and_o that_o be_v this_o quod_fw-la competit_fw-la minori_fw-la competit_fw-la e●iam_fw-la majori_fw-la if_o ordination_n be_v require_v to_o the_o mean_a and_o less_o considerable_a office_n which_o be_v that_o of_o the_o deacon_n much_o more_o be_v it_o require_v to_o that_o which_o be_v the_o great_a and_o weighty_a office_n and_o this_o be_v the_o argument_n use_v by_o the_o assembly_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 123._o answ_n our_o argument_n will_v stand_v upon_o this_o foot_n he_o can_v get_v nothing_o by_o this_o for_o the_o canon_n will_v serve_v we_o what_o he_o say_v of_o ordination_n we_o may_v say_v of_o election_n if_o the_o people_n election_n be_v require_v to_o the_o mean_a and_o less_o considerable_a office_n which_o be_v that_o of_o deacon_n much_o more_o be_v it_o require_v to_o that_o which_o be_v the_o great_a and_o might_a office_n 3._o the_o three_o text_n be_v act._n 14._o ver_fw-la 23._o to_o his_o exception_n we_o answer_v 1._o that_o the_o usual_a signification_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v to_o choose_v by_o suffrage_n and_o without_o special_a reason_n we_o must_v not_o recede_v from_o that_o and_o many_o reason_n we_o give_v against_o its_o denote_v a_o choose_n or_o ordain_v only_o by_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n 2._o the_o word_n be_v apply_v to_o god_n act._n 10._o 44._o it_o must_v needs_o be_v take_v figurative_o and_o as_o there_o it_o do_v not_o denote_v choose_v by_o suffrage_n so_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v take_v for_o imposition_n of_o hand_n for_o god_n have_v no_o hand_n to_o lay_v on_o 3._o the_o word_n be_v but_o once_o more_o use_v that_o we_o know_v of_o in_o scripture_n and_o then_o it_o be_v apply_v to_o the_o church_n so_o that_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n use_v of_o it_o the_o advantage_n be_v on_o our_o part_n 2_o cor._n 8._o 19_o he_o think_v the_o people_n do_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o object_n 1._o they_o be_v say_v to_o ordain_v they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o themselves_o mr._n pool_n pag._n 125._o ans_fw-fr he_o confess_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v take_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o this_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v the_o people_n or_o church_n act._n object_n 2._o the_o same_o person_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v in_o several_a city_n and_o church_n and_o so_o have_v a_o authority_n over_o several_a church_n pag._n 25._o answ_n 1._o if_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o yet_o 1._o they_o do_v not_o as_o the_o manner_n of_o some_o be_v ordain_v in_o one_o church_n ●or_a another_o at_o lystra_n for_o antioch_n but_o in_o every_o church_n respective_o it_o be_v not_o all_o upon_o one_o day_n 2._o they_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d who_o go_v before_o other_o and_o be_v chief_a in_o choose_v 2._o it_o be_v not_o evident_a that_o the_o person_n be_v the_o same_o i●_n a_o parliament_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v and_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n shall_v send_v man_n into_o the_o several_a county_n to_o observe_v the_o people_n election_n it_o may_v be_v say_v as_o it_o be_v here_o and_o when_o they_o have_v choose_v they_o parliament_n man_n by_o suffrage_n in_o every_o county_n etc._n etc._n though_o those_o man_n so_o send_v have_v no_o hand_n in_o the_o election_n so_o if_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n have_v be_v only_a spectator_n and_o eye-witness_n of_o the_o several_a church_n election_n yet_o all_o may_v have_v be_v say_v
how_o these_o arguing_n agree_v we_o know_v not_o object_n 2._o no_o doubt_v they_o be_v the_o first-born_a that_o do_v lay_v hand_n on_o the_o levite_n ans_fw-fr this_o be_v full_o answer_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 344._o most_o that_o he_o say_v from_o pag._n 157_o to_o 161._o be_v either_o inconsiderable_a or_o answrable_a or_o answer_v before_o object_n 1._o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n of_o the_o people_n concurrence_n in_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n p._n 158._o paul_n in_o all_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o church_n speak_v not_o a_o word_n about_o ordination_n sure_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v argumentative_a p._n 159._o ans_fw-fr if_o this_o will_v stand_v many_o of_o his_o principle_n must_v fall_v for_o we_o hear_v not_o a_o syllable_n in_o holy_a write_v of_o the_o subordination_n of_o a_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o point_n of_o government_n unto_o assembly_n make_v up_o of_o the_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n nor_o of_o the_o subordination_n of_o synod_n one_o to_o another_o nor_o of_o its_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n which_o be_v mention_v 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o nay_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n in_o scripture_n for_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n act_v in_o ordination_n out_o of_o the_o particular_a church_n he_o be_v over_o upon_o a_o ordinary_a call_n and_o so_o the_o scripture_n silence_n be_v as_o much_o argumentative_a in_o case_n a_o church_n have_v no_o officer_n in_o it_o against_o ordination_n by_o officer_n of_o other_o church_n our_o officer_n as_o against_o ordination_n by_o the_o people_n object_n 2._o there_o be_v the_o same_o reason_n for_o the_o apostle_n be_v a_o precedent_n for_o minister_n baptise_v and_o not_o the_o people_n and_o for_o their_o ordain_v and_o not_o the_o people_n pag._n 158._o ans_fw-fr we_o have_v reason_n against_o the_o people_n baptise_v which_o be_v not_o fetch_v from_o the_o precedent_n of_o the_o apostle_n baptise_v and_o which_o speak_v not_o against_o the_o people_n act_v in_o ordination_n when_o a_o church_n be_v without_o officer_n as_o for_o baptism_n be_v a_o part_n of_o worship_n only_o by_o institution_n which_o as_o worship_n the_o people_n be_v not_o where_o warrant_v to_o perform_v in_o the_o act_n of_o it_o whereas_o the_o essential_a act_n of_o ordination_n be_v prayer_n which_o though_o require_v by_o gospel_n rule_v on_o that_o occasion_n yet_o in_o itself_o be_v a_o act_n of_o natual_a worship_n which_o the_o people_n may_v perform_v so_o baptism_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n etc._n etc._n ob._n 3._o we_o never_o find_v ordination_n practise_v but_o by_o person_n in_o authority_n towards_o their_o inferior_n pag._n 160._o ans_fw-fr 1._o then_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o can_v speak_v of_o ordination_n by_o a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n for_o timothy_n be_v a_o extraordinary_a officer_n and_o so_o be_v not_o inferior_a to_o a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n either_o this_o or_o else_o what_o he_o say_v p._n 149._o 154._o must_v be_v false_a 2._o we_o never_o 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