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A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

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they_o proceed_v to_o censure_n gradual_o and_o for_o no_o other_o cause_n but_o for_o the_o like_a sin_n and_o scandal_n that_o the_o word_n direct_v in_o 4._o query_n whether_o the_o church_n shall_v own_o man_n to_o be_v member_n for_o a_o bare_a profession_n etc._n etc._n i_o confess_v i_o do_v the_o more_o wonder_n at_o the_o query_n answ_n because_o the_o most_o of_o sober_a divine_n be_v tax_v for_o unfoundnesse_n in_o hold_v the_o affirmative_a and_o yet_o himself_o say_v the_o child_n of_o such_o be_v holy_a federal_o and_o therefore_o to_o be_v baptize_v whereas_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o church_n member_n how_o come_v their_o child_n to_o be_v holy_a federal_o and_o to_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n that_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o child_n of_o such_o that_o be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o if_o a_o remote_a right_n may_v serve_v to_o bring_v in_o the_o child_n of_o such_o a_o bare_a professor_n as_o he_o pag_n 129._o then_o why_o have_v not_o the_o parent_n of_o that_o 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the_o same_o which_o in_o other_o he_o conceive_v unsound_a 2._o what_o shall_v be_v do_v with_o the_o child_n of_o the_o most_o godly_a when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o if_o profession_n without_o true_a holiness_n do_v not_o continue_v such_o member_n forasmuch_o that_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n leave_v to_o dismember_v for_o ignorance_n or_o want_n of_o the_o work_n of_o true_a holiness_n regeneration_n etc._n etc._n member_n such_o be_v not_o only_o by_o birth_n but_o formal_o by_o the_o church_n approbational_a act_n of_o baptism_n they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o renounce_v or_o forsake_v their_o christian_a profession_n that_o they_o adhere_v to_o the_o external_a part_n of_o it_o and_o be_v not_o scandalous_a they_o neither_o fall_v off_o nor_o be_v cut_v off_o by_o any_o rule_n or_o act_v of_o censure_n what_o hinder_v they_o but_o that_o such_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o have_v a_o true_a right_n to_o all_o the_o external_a privilege_n of_o membership_n 3._o if_o 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