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but_o consequence_n and_o argument_n draw_v from_o scripture_n and_o yeâ—_n as_o true_a proof_n as_o scripture_n itself_o so_o you_o judge_v and_o i_o deny_v not_o 3._o if_o you_o mean_v what_o the_o scripture_n say_v express_o it_o be_v grant_v we_o need_v not_o prove_v by_o consequence_n if_o otherwise_o it_o be_v deny_v christ_n himself_o mr._n baxter_n tell_v you_o prove_v the_o resurrection_n by_o consequence_n out_o of_o exod._n 3.6_o so_o that_o you_o may_v have_v spare_v the_o quotation_n out_o of_o gen._n 1.1_o etc._n etc._n who_o deny_v all_o or_o any_o of_o these_o but_o you_o have_v a_o notable_a faculty_n to_o prove_v that_o which_o none_o of_o your_o adversary_n deny_v 4._o if_o mr._n baxter_n etc._n etc._n do_v believe_v those_o scripture_n cite_v by_o you_o and_o not_o deny_v the_o same_o then_o be_v your_o folly_n make_v manifest_a in_o make_v such_o a_o inference_n as_o you_o do_v sect_n 28._o h._n h._n p._n 40._o second_o when_o you_o say_v if_o we_o have_v the_o word_n without_o the_o meaning_n and_o reason_n we_o have_v no_o proof_n at_o all_o this_o be_v a_o most_o subtle_a sophistry_n much_o like_a to_o that_o of_o satan_n when_o he_o beguile_v eve_n save_v gen._n 3.4_o 5._o which_o be_v both_o a_o truth_n and_o a_o lie_n the_o truth_n be_v if_o we_o have_v not_o god_n meaning_n and_o the_o reason_n why_o he_o speak_v to_o we_o how_o can_v we_o understand_v as_o we_o ought_v but_o both_o be_v plain_o declare_v to_o the_o son_n of_o man_n by_o the_o word_n of_o truth_n and_o so_o plain_o that_o if_o you_o or_o a_o angel_n from_o heaven_n shall_v add_v to_o it_o or_o take_v from_o it_o you_o shall_v be_v accurse_v and_o he_o will_v add_v etc._n etc._n all_o which_o if_o you_o do_v not_o know_v read_v prov._n 30.6_o gal._n 1.8_o 9_o rev._n 22.18_o reply_v 1_o mr._n baxter_n expression_n and_o satan_n be_v very_o unlike_a you_o acknowledge_v a_o truth_n and_o a_o lie_n in_o satan_n but_o you_o have_v show_v no_o lie_n in_o m._n baxter_n nor_o indeed_o can_v you_o unless_o you_o will_v also_o condemn_v yourself_o 2._o if_o we_o can_v understand_v unless_o we_o have_v god_n meaning_n and_o reason_n than_o mr._n baxter_n be_v in_o the_o truth_n viz_o if_o we_o have_v the_o word_n without_o the_o meaning_n and_o reason_n we_o have_v no_o proof_n at_o all_o shuffle_v no_o long_o 3._o mr._n baxter_n know_v and_o have_v read_v those_o scripture_n mention_v by_o you_o but_o do_v you_o read_v they_o more_o serious_o and_o then_o you_o may_v know_v more_o clear_o whether_o you_o be_v not_o obnoxious_a to_o those_o plague_n and_o curse_n for_o you_o be_v guilty_a of_o add_v to_o the_o word_n e._n g._n p_o 4._o you_o add_v that_o forth_o wilderness_n in_o mark_n 1.3_o 4_o 5._o
charge_v with_o those_o actual_a sin_n or_o else_o not_o be_v own_v church-member_n nay_o it_o be_v plain_a they_o be_v church-member_n deut._n 29.10_o 12_o 13._o now_o these_o convert_a ephesian_n be_v incorporate_v into_o the_o same_o body_n and_o partaker_n of_o the_o same_o privilege_n for_o themselves_o and_o their_o child_n eph._n 2.19.20_o rom._n 11.17_o 5._o as_o jew_n and_o gentile_n of_o ripe_a yeaâ—â—_n in_o regard_n of_o original_a sin_n and_o the_o fruit_n thereof_o need_v christ_n the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o church-membership_a to_o save_v they_o from_o the_o dominion_n and_o damnation_n of_o sin_n so_o infant_n who_o a_o e_z under_o original_a sin_n as_o you_o acknowledge_v and_o which_o be_v all_o sin_n radical_o virtual_o eminent_o no_o less_o need_v christ_n the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n and_o church-membership_a be_v the_o only_o reveal_v way_n of_o communicate_v christ_n and_o his_o merit_n to_o save_v sinner_n from_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n dominion_n of_o sin_n and_o eternal_a damnation_n sect_n 12._o h._n h._n pag._n 69._o my_o nine_o argument_n be_v from_o 1_o thes_n 5._o ver_fw-la 2_o 4_o 5._o reply_n to_o make_v the_o best_a of_o your_o argument_n it_o be_v thus_o all_o church-member_n be_v child_n of_o the_o light_n and_o know_v that_o the_o day_n of_o the_o lord_n come_v as_o a_o thief_n etc._n etc._n but_o infant_n be_v not_o child_n of_o the_o light_n nor_o know_v etc._n etc._n 1._o the_o same_o answer_n may_v here_o serve_v since_o the_o fallacy_n be_v the_o same_o but_o 2._o if_o a_o man_n shall_v argue_v that_o john_n baptize_v infant_n because_o it_o be_v say_v mat._n 3.5_o 6._o all_o judea_n and_o all_o the_o region_n round_o about_o and_o infant_n may_v be_v say_v to_o go_v out_o too_o though_o carry_v in_o their_o parent_n arm_n exod._n 10.9_o 10_o 24._o &_o 12.37_o go_v out_o and_o be_v baptize_v of_o he_o you_o will_v not_o well_o resent_v it_o for_o it_o will_v spoil_v your_o cause_n and_o yet_o the_o conclusion_n follow_v more_o clear_o than_o you_o 3._o if_o some_o infant_n be_v not_o child_n of_o the_o light_n and_o of_o the_o day_n they_o be_v child_n of_o darkness_n and_o of_o the_o right_n the_o scripture_n know_v not_o a_o three_o state_n but_o it_o may_v be_v to_o carry_v on_o your_o design_n for_o popery_n you_o can_v tell_v we_o of_o a_o limbus_n infantum_fw-la 4._o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o saint_n unto_o who_o he_o write_v at_o thessalonica_n do_v all_o know_v perfect_o that_o the_o lord_n be_v come_v shall_v be_v as_o a_o thief_n in_o the_o night_n there_o it_o no_o universal_a particle_n in_o the_o second_o verse_n neither_o do_v he_o mean_v that_o they_o â—â—â—â—e_v all_o the_o child_n of_o the_o light_n as_o if_o there_o have_v be_v none_o in_o the_o world_n beside_o those_o grow_a christian_n in_o that_o church_n ver_fw-la 5._o speak_v of_o another_o matter_n lest_o of_o all_o do_v the_o apostle_n say_v or_o imply_v here_o or_o elsewhere_o that_o all_o church-member_n know_v perfect_o etc._n etc._n ver_fw-la 2._o this_o you_o prove_v not_o all_o sect_n 12._o h._n h._n ten_o argument_n from_o 1_o thes_n 2.11_o if_o paul_n do_v exhort_v and_o charge_v every_o one_o of_o the_o church_n to_o do_v these_o thing_n than_o there_o be_v no_o infant_n for_o they_o be_v not_o capable_a of_o exhortation_n consolation_n etc._n etc._n ver_fw-la 11._o therefore_o reply_v this_o i_o confess_v have_v some_o form_n of_o a_o syllogism_n viz._n hypothetical_n though_o for_o brevity_n it_o may_v have_v be_v categorical_a to_o which_o i_o say_v 1._o the_o major_n be_v grant_v if_o it_o be_v understand_v of_o immediate_a present_a exhortation_n to_o every_o particular_a member_n of_o that_o church_n without_o exception_n but_o then_o your_o assumption_n or_o minor_n be_v deny_v though_o you_o think_v it_o guard_v with_o scripture_n for_o it_o be_v not_o say_v we_o exhort_v every_o particular_a church-member_n but_o you_o i._n e._n to_o those_o grow_a christian_n to_o who_o he_o immediate_o write_v and_o though_o it_o be_v direct_v to_o the_o church_n 1_o thes_n 1.1_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o say_v every_o particular_a church-member_n be_v bind_v to_o read_v hear_v understand_v and_o obey_v this_o epistle_n so_o soon_o as_o it_o come_v it_o be_v enough_o that_o it_o be_v direct_v to_o the_o principal_a member_n which_o oft_o have_v the_o denomination_n of_o the_o whole_a by_o who_o it_o may_v be_v as_o there_o be_v occasion_n communicate_v to_o other_o the_o apostle_n call_v this_o church_n for_o all_o who_o he_o give_v thanks_o 1_o thes_n 1._o ver_fw-la 1_o 2_o 3_o 4._o brethren_n will_v it_o follow_v therefore_o that_o woman_n among_o they_o who_o be_v not_o brethren_n be_v not_o church-member_n 2._o do_v not_o the_o same_o apostle_n say_v if_o any_o will_v not_o work_v neither_o shall_v they_o eat_v yet_o you_o be_v so_o pitiful_a that_o you_o will_v not_o deny_v food_n to_o little_a babe_n pag_n 62._o methinks_v you_o shall_v be_v as_o pitiful_a not_o to_o deny_v to_o they_o church-membership_a though_o they_o can_v perform_v all_o the_o act_n of_o a_o church-member_n no_o more_o than_o the_o circumcise_a infant_n of_o the_o jew_n can_v 3._o yet_o again_o to_o your_o major_n though_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o speak_v or_o write_v direct_o or_o immediate_o to_o infant_n yet_o mediate_o and_o indirect_o he_o do_v in_o speak_v and_o write_v to_o their_o parent_n who_o be_v to_o lay_v hold_n on_o the_o promise_n etc._n etc._n for_o themselves_o and_o their_o child_n and_o be_v instruct_v in_o their_o duty_n be_v to_o teach_v their_o child_n when_o capable_a gen._n 18.19_o deut._n 6.7_o 2_o tim._n 3.15_o ephes_n 6.4_o if_o in_o this_o sense_n paul_n teach_v be_v take_v as_o there_o be_v no_o just_a reason_n to_o the_o contrary_a then_o the_o consequence_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v true_a that_o the_o opposite_a conclusion_n must_v needs_o be_v true_a sect_n 13._o h._n h._n p._n 70._o eleven_o argument_n from_o heb._n 6.11_o 12._o we_o desire_v every_o one_o of_o you_o to_o show_v the_o same_o diligence_n etc._n etc._n little_a child_n can_v therefore_o not_o sâ—ch_a babe_n be_v church-member_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o hebrew_n reply_v 1_o i_o do_v not_o remember_v that_o in_o this_o epistle_n there_o be_v express_a mention_n make_v of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o hebrew_n will_v you_o be_v guilty_a of_o that_o fault_n which_o you_o charge_v often_o on_o your_o adversary_n viz._n of_o add_v to_o the_o word_n take_v heed_n 2._o this_o argument_n be_v like_o the_o former_a and_o therefore_o the_o same_o answer_n may_v serve_v this_o exhortation_n be_v direct_o and_o immediate_o give_v to_o person_n of_o year_n yet_o remote_o to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o faithful_a who_o be_v bind_v to_o bring_v they_o up_o when_o grow_v as_o abraham_n and_o the_o israelite_n do_v they_o gen._n 18._o deut._n 6._o psal_n 78._o of_o abraham_n i_o say_v for_o of_o his_o chief_a the_o author_n speak_v ver_fw-la 12_o 13_o etc._n etc._n 3._o by_o this_o argue_n it_o may_v be_v prove_v that_o none_o of_o their_o infant_n be_v hebrew_n thus_o every_o one_o of_o the_o hebrew_n be_v desire_v to_o show_v the_o same_o diligence_n to_o etc._n etc._n but_o none_o of_o the_o infant_n be_v desire_v therefore_o or_o because_o a_o master_n of_o a_o family_n write_v that_o every_o one_o in_o the_o family_n shall_v be_v diligent_a and_o faithful_a in_o their_o place_n shall_v any_o conclude_v that_o his_o little_a child_n be_v no_o member_n of_o that_o family_n 4._o there_o be_v a_o like_a universal_a charge_n give_v to_o all_o israel_n deut._n 29.10_o 11_o 12_o 18_o 19_o 20._o yet_o because_o little_a one_o can_v not_o understand_v etc._n etc._n must_v they_o be_v conclude_v or_o exclude_v rather_o out_o of_o the_o covenant_n no_o there_o be_v express_a mention_n make_v of_o their_o be_v take_v into_o covenant_n sect_n 14._o h._n h._n p._n 70_o &_o 71._o my_o 12_o and_o last_v argument_n from_o phil._n 4._o ver_fw-la 21_o 22._o the_o sum_n be_v this_o all_o the_o saint_n at_o rome_n whence_o this_o epistle_n come_v send_v salutation_n to_o the_o saint_n at_o philippi_n but_o no_o infant_n at_o rome_n do_v salute_v nor_o any_o infant_n at_o philippi_n can_v receive_v salutation_n therefore_o no_o infant_n at_o either_o place_n be_v church-member_n the_o major_a prove_v by_o this_o scripture_n the_o minor_a by_o rason_a and_o common_a sense_n reply_v 1_o if_o you_o believe_v the_o subscription_n of_o this_o epistle_n to_o be_v canonical_a scripture_n for_o you_o confident_o avouch_v this_o epistle_n come_v from_o rome_n you_o smell_v again_o strong_o of_o the_o popish_a cask_n beza_n say_v in_o one_o copy_n it_o be_v thus_o it_o be_v finish_v without_o any_o other_o addition_n but_o no_o
find_v so_o much_o strength_n that_o after_o you_o have_v cast_v a_o squib_n you_o run_v away_o like_o a_o coward_n â—ut_v for_o all_o that_o he_o have_v reach_v you_o such_o a_o backblow_n which_o you_o can_v claw_v off_o sect_n 3._o h._n h._n p._n 88_o nay_o to_o give_v he_o his_o argument_n again_o infant_n baptism_n be_v utter_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o obedience_n to_o christ_n rule_n first_o because_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o practice_n for_o it_o as_o he_o grant_v second_o because_o by_o their_o rantize_v or_o sprinkle_v of_o babe_n they_o make_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n of_o none_o effect_n mat._n 7.7_o 8_o 9_o and_o mat._n 15.8_o 9_o thus_o they_o bound_v two_o sin_n together_o and_o in_o the_o one_o they_o shall_v not_o go_v unpunished_a reply_v 1_o if_o give_v be_v grant_v you_o do_v well_o to_o give_v it_o he_o 2._o the_o first_o reason_n of_o your_o retortion_n be_v but_o the_o cuckoo_n song_n m._n baxter_n have_v be_v so_o far_o from_o grant_v it_o that_o he_o have_v abundant_o show_v you_o both_o precept_n and_o example_n but_o you_o be_v so_o wilful_o blind_a that_o you_o can_v see_v wood_n for_o tree_n 3._o your_o three_o be_v both_o a_o mere_a calumniation_n and_o a_o miserable_a beg_v the_o question_n infant-baptism_n be_v neither_o a_o tradition_n in_o your_o sense_n nor_o a_o make_n of_o christ_n command_n of_o none_o effect_v in_o our_o sense_n as_o have_v be_v show_v but_o i_o may_v not_o nauseate_a the_o reader_n with_o vain_a repetition_n as_o you_o do_v 4._o if_o we_o shall_v go_v unpunished_a in_o the_o one_o i_o believe_v in_o the_o other_o too_o sect_n 4._o h._n h._n whereas_o m._n baxter_n will_v make_v we_o offender_n for_o nothing_o i._n e._n for_o not_o baptise_v child_n in_o their_o nonage_n i_o answer_v first_o he_o can_v never_o make_v it_o a_o sin_n till_o he_o show_v we_o what_o command_v we_o have_v break_v etc._n etc._n second_o there_o be_v both_o precept_n and_o practice_n for_o baptise_v man_n and_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d word_n proper_o signify_v idiotes_n and_o so_o translate_v by_o some_o latin_a some_o beza_n and_o old_a latin_a i._n e._n not_o magistrate_n instruct_v in_o the_o law_n but_o ordinary_a vulgar_a person_n who_o the_o jew_n call_v by_o that_o name_n render_v thrice_o unlearned_a 1_o cor._n 14.16_o 23_o 24._o so_o that_o the_o meaning_n be_v when_o the_o learned_a priest_n and_o ruler_n as_o mr._n haggar_n call_v they_o observe_v the_o elocution_n and_o freeness_n of_o speech_n grotius_n speech_n dr._n hammond_n and_o grotius_n with_o which_o peter_n and_o john_n teach_v and_o consider_v withal_o that_o their_o education_n have_v not_o thus_o elevate_v they_o above_o other_o man_n be_v neither_o skilled_a in_o the_o learning_n of_o the_o jew_n nor_o place_v in_o authority_n as_o magistrate_n they_o be_v amaze_v now_o mr._n haggar_n will_v
p._n you_o say_v alas_o there_o be_v far_o better_a ground_n which_o they_o be_v not_o aware_a of_o answ_n that_o be_v it_o may_v be_v because_o you_o baptize_v they_o so_o soon_o if_o you_o will_v let_v they_o alone_o till_o they_o be_v man_n and_o woman_n before_o you_o baptize_v they_o as_o you_o have_v example_n in_o scripture_n they_o may_v receive_v baptism_n on_o better_a ground_n reply_v 1_o your_o interpretation_n with_o a_o may_v be_v be_v but_o a_o mere_a conjecture_n a_o fancy_n of_o your_o own_o head_n and_o worthy_a of_o no_o better_a a_o reply_n 2._o though_o we_o distinguish_v between_o man_n and_o woman_n and_o child_n in_o our_o language_n yet_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o always_o cain_n a_o child_n be_v call_v a_o man_n gen._n 4.1_o and_o a_o infant_n upon_o the_o birth_n be_v also_o call_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n a_o man_n john_n 16.21_o where_o the_o same_o word_n be_v use_v which_o include_v both_o man_n and_o woman_n as_o you_o confess_v p._n 68_o howsoever_o your_o expression_n be_v as_o improper_a as_o your_o advice_n be_v impertinent_a viz._n if_o you_o will_v let_v they_o alone_o till_o they_o be_v man_n and_o woman_n i_o know_v not_o your_o meaning_n well_o unless_o you_o will_v have_v every_o infant_n a_o hermaphrodite_n viz._n a_o man_n and_o woman_n 3._o you_o have_v bring_v no_o example_n in_o scripture_n to_o justify_v your_o practice_n for_o those_o who_o be_v say_v to_o be_v baptize_v in_o scripture_n be_v not_o baptize_v before_o that_o we_o read_v of_o as_o you_o acknowledge_v we_o be_v p._n 24._o sect_n 18._o h._n h._n p._n 36_o and_o 37._o in_o your_o seven_o position_n you_o confess_v some_o divine_n have_v reason_v very_o weak_o for_o infant-baptism_n and_o use_v unfit_a phrase_n and_o mis-applyed_n scripture_n and_o to_o thâ—se_a some_o have_v write_v three_o or_o four_o book_n and_o easy_o answer_v and_o seem_v to_o triumph_n and_o yet_o the_o truth_n be_v not_o shake_v but_o it_o may_v be_v all_o the_o 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for_o infant-baptism_n and_o you_o in_o silence_n have_v pass_v by_o the_o most_o of_o they_o because_o it_o seem_v you_o can_v not_o answer_v they_o though_o you_o confess_v you_o see_v they_o 3._o the_o close_a of_o your_o answer_n if_o it_o be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n than_o its_o a_o easy_a matter_n to_o answer_v any_o argument_n though_o never_o so_o strong_a by_o mis-applying_a scripture_n and_o scornful_a term_n and_o i_o must_v needs_o tell_v you_o of_o your_o rash_a and_o harsh_a judgement_n contrary_a to_o mat._n 7.1_o judge_v not_o &c._n &c._n and_o to_o rom._n 14.10_o etc._n etc._n why_o do_v thou_o judge_v thy_o brother_n &_o c._n and_o indeed_o this_o last_o part_n of_o your_o answer_n be_v the_o reason_n why_o i_o can_v believe_v your_o first_o sect_n 19_o h._n h._n p._n 37._o you_o say_v position_n 8._o one_o sound_a argument_n be_v enough_o to_o prove_v any_o thing_n true_a answ_n then_o either_o the_o great_a number_n of_o you_o in_o your_o book_n of_o plain_a scripture_n be_v not_o sound_a or_o else_o you_o need_v not_o to_o have_v bring_v so_o many_o by_o your_o own_o grant_n reply_v 1_o what_o you_o say_v of_o m._n baxters_n argument_n may_v be_v say_v of_o your_o more_o true_o viz._n your_o twelve_o argument_n 87._o argument_n foundation_n fâ—om_n p_o 63._o to_o 73._o from_o p._n 73._o to_o 87._o against_o infant_n church-membership_a and_o your_o nine_o argument_n against_o infants-discipleship_a etc._n etc._n which_o will_v be_v find_v as_o weak_a as_o water_n and_o as_o unsound_a as_o rot_a ground_n when_o i_o shall_v come_v to_o they_o 2._o m._n baxter_n tell_v you_o in_o this_o 8_o position_n it_o be_v not_o number_n but_o weight_n that_o must_v carry_v it_o therefore_o he_o resolve_v not_o to_o heap_v up_o many_o 3._o it_o seem_v you_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o great_a number_n of_o m._n baxters_n argument_n and_o yet_o you_o dare_v not_o grapple_v with_o that_o huge_a host_n but_o only_o cull_v out_o one_o or_o two_o and_o that_o by_o snatch_v at_o a_o limb_n and_o away_o adâ—g_v away_o tanquam_fw-la caenis_n ad_fw-la nilum_n eras_n adâ—g_v as_o you_o have_v do_v with_o m._n cook_n etc._n etc._n sect_n 20._o h._n h._n but_o you_o say_v what_o if_o all_o the_o text_n be_v put_v by_o save_v one_o be_v not_o that_o enough_o answ_n yes_o it_o be_v enough_o if_o you_o can_v show_v we_o but_o one_o but_o i_o pray_v where_o be_v that_o one_o i_o can_v find_v it_o in_o all_o the_o book_n but_o it_o seem_v you_o be_v afraid_a that_o all_o shall_v be_v put_v by_o save_v one_o therefore_o you_o make_v this_o apology_n but_o i_o suppose_v all_o will_v do_v you_o little_a goâ—d_n reply_v 1_o if_o you_o wipe_v your_o eye_n you_o may_v see_v if_o you_o be_v not_o blind_a in_o m._n baxters_n book_n more_o than_o one_o 2._o i_o doubt_v you_o speak_v against_o your_o conscience_n how_o dare_v you_o say_v you_o can_v find_v one_o text_n for_o infant-baptism_n in_o all_o m._n baxter_n book_n when_o you_o seem_v to_o be_v more_o eagle-eyed_a than_o other_o in_o see_v and_o find_v as_o you_o think_v the_o font_n in_o jer._n 2.12_o 13._o p._n 8._o 3._o m._n baxter_n apology_n be_v not_o make_v out_o of_o any_o such_o jealousy_n as_o you_o pretend_v as_o if_o he_o be_v afraid_a that_o all_o shall_v be_v put_v by_o save_v one_o but_o out_o of_o a_o desire_n and_o endeavour_v to_o rectify_v the_o ignorant_a in_o their_o fond_a conceit_n as_o he_o himself_o exprâ—sseth_v it_o which_o you_o have_v cunning_o leave_v out_o 4._o i_o will_v accept_v of_o your_o grant_n and_o improve_v it_o in_o time_n convenient_a viz._n if_o all_o shall_v be_v put_v by_o but_o one_o it_o be_v enough_o sect_n 21._o h._n h._n same_o p._n you_o say_v position_n 9_o the_o former_a and_o present_a custom_n of_o the_o holy_a saint_n and_o church_n shall_v be_v of_o great_a weight_n with_o humble_a christian_n answ_n i_o grant_v it_o if_o they_o be_v now_o according_a to_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n i_o be_o sure_a the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n be_v to_o baptize_v man_n and_o woman_n when_o they_o believe_v etc._n etc._n act_v 2.41_o &_o 8.12.36_o 37._o &_o 10.47_o &_o 16.33.34_o &_o 18.8_o therefore_o let_v this_o custom_n be_v of_o weight_n to_o yourself_o and_o do_v not_o baptize_v little_a babe_n that_o can_v believe_v etc._n etc._n because_o paul_n say_v 1_o cor._n 11.16_o reply_v 1_o you_o condemn_v hereby_o all_o the_o protestant_a minister_n of_o the_o french_a church_n who_o preach_v with_o their_o hat_n on_o their_o head_n and_o yet_o they_o think_v they_o may_v do_v so_o without_o sin_n notwithstanding_o 1_o cor._n 11.4.7_o 2._o be_v not_o you_o self-condemned_n who_o as_o i_o be_o inform_v have_v break_v bread_n on_o the_o second_o day_n of_o the_o week_n when_o the_o primitive_a disciple_n 20.7_o disciple_n act._n 20.7_o do_v it_o on_o the_o lord_n day_n viz._n the_o first_o day_n of_o the_o week_n as_o you_o grant_v p._n 13._o nay_o expositor_n on_o that_o place_n collect_v they_o do_v break_v bread_n once_o a_o week_n viz._n on_o the_o day_n aforesaid_a you_o once_o a_o month_n if_o so_o oft_o 3._o those_o scripture_n so_o often_o repeat_v by_o you_o have_v be_v answer_v already_o i_o tell_v you_o again_o that_o practice_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o we_o but_o in_o the_o same_o or_o like_a condition_n beside_o the_o primitive_a christian_n have_v their_o love-feast_n when_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v administer_v and_o receive_v as_o be_v plain_a out_o of_o scripture_n 8.12_o scripture_n see_v diodat_n 1_o cor._n 11.20.21_o judas_n 8.12_o and_o it_o be_v their_o custom_n to_o salute_v one_o another_o with_o a_o holy_a kiss_n do_v you_o not_o think_v it_o a_o piec_fw-la of_o your_o christian_a
liberty_n to_o swerve_v from_o these_o primitive_a practice_n etc._n etc._n 4._o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o baptise_v infantâ—_n be_v of_o that_o weight_n with_o the_o paedobaptist_n that_o you_o must_v bâ—ing_v more_o convince_a argument_n than_o you_o have_v yet_o do_v to_o take_v they_o off_o from_o that_o custom_n as_o for_o the_o manner_n of_o baptise_v mr._n cradock_n to_o who_o mr._n baxter_n refer_v you_o tell_v you_o 4._o you_o gospel-liberty_n p._n 2d_o &_o 4._o i_o hat_n christ_n have_v not_o make_v baptism_n such_o a_o ordinance_n as_o that_o in_o all_o climate_n and_o countries-and_a region_n they_o must_v go_v over_o head_n and_o ear_n in_o a_o river_n etc._n etc._n sect_n 22._o h._n h._n you_o say_v that_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n as_o high_a as_o to_o the_o apostle_n as_o there_o be_v many_o sufficient_a history_n extant_a inform_v we_o and_o that_o the_o defer_v of_o baptism_n come_v in_o with_o the_o 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a_o blasphemer_n the_o which_o charge_n i_o come_v now_o to_o prove_v but_o first_o let_v we_o see_v how_o you_o prove_v the_o charge_n sect_n 23._o h._n h._n p._n 3.38_o 1._o it_o be_v evident_a you_o be_v a_o deceiver_n in_o that_o you_o have_v entitle_v your_o book_n plain_a scripture_n proof_n for_o infant_n be_v church-membership_a and_o baptism_n when_o indeed_o there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n in_o all_o the_o bible_n but_o you_o confess_v that_o your_o proof_n be_v from_o some_o history_n extant_a which_o you_o judge_v sufficient_a etc._n etc._n reply_v 1_o you_o notorious_o abuse_v mr._n baxter_n he_o do_v not_o say_v that_o proof_n for_o infant-baptism_n from_o history_n be_v sufficient_a in_o his_o judgement_n 7._o judgement_n see_v mr._n baxt._n position_n 9_o p._n 7._o but_o in_o opposition_n to_o mr._n t._n pretence_n among_o the_o simple_a he_o say_v he_o shall_v easy_o prove_v that_o infant-baptism_n be_v use_v in_o the_o church_n as_o high_a as_o to_o the_o apostle_n day_n as_o there_o be_v any_o sufficient_a history_n extant_a to_o inform_v we_o and_o if_o this_o prove_v mr._n baxter_n to_o be_v a_o deceiver_n than_o bless_a 8._o bless_a see_v the_o forego_n chap._n 5._o sect_n 14._o &_o inst_z 3.4_o c._n 16._o s_o 8._o calvin_n be_v one_o and_o many_o other_o burn_v and_o shine_a light_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n but_o your_o charge_n be_v indeed_o from_o a_o eldern-gun_n and_o be_v no_o musket-shot_a it_o make_v a_o noise_n but_o god_n be_v thank_v hurt_v not_o 2._o beside_o the_o humane_a testimony_n for_o infant-baptism_n in_o matter_n of_o fact_n m._n baxter_n bring_v abundance_n of_o plain_a scripture_n to_o prove_v it_o de_fw-fr jure_fw-la and_o if_o you_o see_v they_o not_o it_o be_v because_o you_o be_v wilful_o blind_a and_o obstinate_a it_o be_v a_o easy_a matter_n for_o you_o with_o impudence_n to_o say_v there_o be_v no_o such_o thing_n but_o its_o hard_a for_o you_o to_o disprove_v those_o text_n of_o scripture_n allege_v 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