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A36591 Innocency and truth vindicated, or, A sober reply to Mr. Will's answer to a late treatise of baptisme wherein the authorities and antiquities for believers and against infants baptism are defended ... : with a brief answer to Mr. Blinmans essay / by Henry Danvers. Danvers, Henry, d. 1687. 1675 (1675) Wing D223; ESTC R8412 108,224 202

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infant_n baptism_n a_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o the_o universal_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n which_o we_o have_v examine_v distinct_o and_o give_v a_o account_n of_o the_o insufficiency_n and_o weakness_n if_o not_o the_o wickedness_n of_o most_o of_o they_o and_o which_o appear_v false_a all_o the_o rest_n depend_v upon_o they_o necessare_o fall_v to_o the_o ground_n the_o first_o three_o of_o they_o viz._n spurious_a 3._o of_o they_o own_v to_o be_v spurious_a dionysius_n the_o areopagite_n in_o the_o first_o century_n the_o decretal_n of_o the_o first_o pope_n or_o roman_a bishop_n with_o justin_n martyr_n response_n in_o the_o second_o century_n be_v all_o of_o they_o own_a by_o mr._n will_n to_o be_v spurious_a and_o supposititious_a though_o to_o this_o day_n lean_v upon_o by_o most_o of_o the_o popish_a and_o many_o protestant_a writer_n also_o whereby_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n early_o discover_v itself_o not_o only_o to_o usher_v in_o but_o to_o support_v this_o innovation_n by_o lie_n and_o forgery_n but_o mr._n will_n tell_v we_o that_o though_o these_o be_v forgery_n examine_v justin_n martyr_n to_o triphon_n examine_v yet_o justin_n martyr_n dialogue_n to_o triphon_n be_v genuine_a who_o therein_o say_v that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o all_o to_o receive_v the_o spiritual_a circumcision_n viz._n baptism_n whereby_o it_o may_v well_o be_v infer_v say_v mr._n will_n from_o mr._n baxter_n that_o if_o all_o may_v receive_v it_o than_o infant_n who_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o legal_a circumcision_n for_o they_o must_v be_v part_n of_o all_o and_o not_o exclude_v will_v 128._o which_o i_o say_v be_v a_o mere_a impertinency_n and_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o first_o here_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o infant_n nor_o of_o infant_n baptism_n or_o its_o apostolicalness_n second_o it_o be_v very_o absurd_a the_o better_a to_o hook_v in_o child_n to_o interpret_v the_o word_n all_o to_o be_v all_o man_n for_o if_o all_o man_n than_o it_o must_v comprehend_v wicked_a as_o well_o as_o good_a believer_n as_o well_o as_o unbeliever_n and_o which_o as_o confine_v to_o baptism_n by_o master_n will_n be_v to_o contradict_v christ_n commission_n and_o the_o apostle_n practice_v who_o limit_v it_o only_o to_o those_o that_o repent_v of_o their_o sin_n and_o believe_v the_o gospel_n and_o though_o it_o be_v true_a the_o gospel_n be_v to_o be_v preach_v to_o all_o and_o all_o of_o all_o nation_n in_o distinction_n to_o the_o nation_n of_o the_o jew_n who_o only_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o first_o commission_n yet_o only_o they_o teach_v believer_n among_o they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v not_o the_o ignorant_a and_o profane_a and_o if_o the_o word_n all_o be_v so_o to_o be_v understand_v it_o be_v a_o witness_n for_o we_o not_o they_o for_o infant_n thereby_o be_v exclude_v who_o be_v neither_o capable_a of_o instruction_n repentance_n or_o faith_n and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o to_o be_v understand_v let_v justin_n himself_o be_v the_o interpreter_n who_o not_o only_o in_o his_o apology_n before_o mention_v tell_v we_o sense_n justin_n himself_o contradict_v mr._n will_n sense_n that_o they_o only_o who_o be_v instruct_v in_o the_o faith_n and_o believe_v be_v bring_v to_o baptism_n to_o have_v their_o new_a birth_n perfect_v but_o in_o this_o very_a dialogue_n to_o tryphon_n tell_v we_o that_o by_o the_o word_n and_o baptism_n regeneration_n be_v perfect_v in_o all_o man_n kind_n viz._n in_o all_o that_o do_v hear_v and_o receive_v the_o word_n and_o be_v capable_a to_o come_v to_o baptism_n and_o again_o that_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n sin_n be_v expiate_v as_o magdeburg_n cent._n 2._o pag._n 4._o 7._o which_o sufficient_o declare_v that_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n except_o it_o be_v to_o confirm_v believer_n baptism_n only_o and_o to_o which_o say_v mr._n tomb_n notion_n mr._n baxter_n singular_a notion_n this_o testimony_n for_o antiquity_n of_o infant_n baptism_n i_o remember_v not_o allege_v by_o any_o before_o mr._n baxter_n and_o therefore_o beside_o the_o impertinency_n of_o the_o word_n as_o he_o himself_o allege_v they_o i_o see_v no_o need_n to_o search_v further_o into_o it_o review_n 2._o part_n p._n 71._o in_o the_o next_o place_n mr._n will_n tell_v we_o of_o a_o other_o antiquity_n to_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n apostolical_a examine_v iraeneus_n testimony_n examine_v viz._n iraeneus_n who_o in_o lib._n 2._o c._n 39_o advers._fw-la haeres_fw-la tell_v we_o that_o christ_n do_v sanctify_v every_o age_n by_o his_o own_o susception_n of_o it_o and_o similitude_n to_o it_o all_o i_o say_v who_o by_o he_o be_v bear_v again_o to_o god_n whereby_o say_v mr._n will_n we_o infer_v that_o be_v bear_v again_o to_o god_n signify_v baptism_n as_o the_o ancient_n for_o the_o most_o part_n take_v it_o than_o be_v the_o infant_n baptize_v in_o his_o day_n will_n p._n 129._o to_o which_o i_o reply_v that_o if_o this_o be_v any_o more_o to_o the_o purpose_n then_o the_o former_a let_v all_o man_n judge_v and_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o far_o fetch_v and_o unnatura_o screw_v without_o either_o reason_n or_o truth_n impertinent_a very_o impertinent_a for_o first_o here_o be_v not_o one_o word_n of_o infant_n baptism_n or_o its_o apostolicalness_n and_o nothing_o but_o a_o impertinent_a beg_a question_n upon_o question_n to_o make_v up_o a_o inference_n second_o the_o interpretation_n upon_o which_o it_o be_v found_v be_v whole_o fallacious_a for_o neither_o the_o scripture_n nor_o justin_n martyr_n do_v call_v baptism_n regeneration_n absolute_o but_o only_o as_o it_o be_v the_o symbol_n of_o regeneration_n already_o wrought_v by_o the_o word_n and_o so_o justins_n word_n b●fore_o import_v and_o that_o only_o respect_v the_o adult_n that_o be_v capable_a thereof_o for_o if_o this_o be_v true_a doctrine_n then_o must_v all_o hypocrite_n and_o wicked_a man_n that_o either_o now_o or_o ever_o be_v baptize_v be_v actual_o thereby_o regenerate_v and_o so_o consequent_o save_v which_o be_v so_o absurd_a and_o ridiculous_a as_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o to_o which_o mr._n tomb_n have_v so_o well_o answer_v mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o three_o review_n pag._n 79._o and_o which_o be_v never_o yet_o reply_v to_o that_o we_o need_v say_v no_o more_o to_o it_o viz._n tomb_n mr._n tomb_n but_o christ_n be_v not_o in_o his_o age_n a_o example_n of_o every_o age_n by_o his_o baptism_n as_o if_o he_o do_v by_o it_o sanctify_v every_o age_n for_o than_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v baptize_v in_o every_o age_n but_o in_o respect_n to_o the_o holiness_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n which_o do_v remain_v in_o each_o age_n and_o so_o exemplary_o sanctify_v every_o age_n to_o god_n so_o as_o that_o no_o age_n but_o be_v capable_a of_o holiness_n by_o conformity_n to_o his_o example_n now_o if_o the_o meaning_n be_v that_o christ_n come_v to_o save_v all_o that_o be_v baptize_v by_o he_o on_o by_o his_o appointment_n than_o he_o come_v to_o save_v simon_n magus_n and_o who_o ever_o be_v and_o have_v be_v baptize_v right_o judas_n himself_o therefore_o such_o a_o sense_n be_v most_o palpable_o false_a and_o therefore_o be_v this_o wrest_v by_o the_o paedobaptist_n against_o its_o meaning_n to_o prove_v infant_n baptism_n in_o his_o time_n so_o that_o i_o hope_v it_o will_v be_v manifest_a that_o these_o authority_n be_v as_o little_a to_o the_o purpose_n as_o the_o three_o former_a and_o all_o though_o these_o be_v not_o suppositition_n yet_o whole_o insignificant_a and_o nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o for_o the_o first_o two_o hundred_o year_n we_o have_v not_o the_o least_o proof_n by_o any_o authentic_a au_n hor_o that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n or_o that_o it_o be_v once_o practise_v within_o that_o compass_n of_o time_n and_o therefore_o say_v doctor_n barlow_n barlow_n dr._n barlow_n i_o believe_v and_o know_v that_o there_o be_v neither_o precept_n nor_o practice_v in_o scripture_n for_o paedobaptism_n nor_o any_o just_a evidence_n for_o it_o for_o above_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o may_v it_o not_o be_v very_o well_o conclude_v in_o mr._n baxters_n word_n about_o confirmation_n that_o it_o be_v very_o suspicious_a to_o find_v in_o justin_n martyr_n description_n of_o the_o christian_a church_n practice_v no_o mention_n of_o it_o p._n 128._o so_o neither_o to_o find_v in_o justin_n martyr_n nor_o as_o mr._n tomb_n well_o observe_v the_o least_o of_o it_o in_o eusebius_n ignatius_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n athanasius_n or_o epiphanius_n be_v very_o good_a ground_n to_o conclude_v against_o it_o and_o reproof_n to_o mr._n calvin_n who_o say_v reprove_v mr._n calvin_n and_o mr._n marshal_v just_o reprove_v that_o there_o be_v no_o ancient_a writer_n that_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v the_o original_a
which_o i_o give_v you_o at_o large_a from_o they_o pag._n 234._o of_o which_o he_o take_v not_o the_o least_o notice_n three_o that_o i_o bring_v in_o durandus_fw-la durandus_fw-la durandus_fw-la a_o severe_a encmy_n against_o anabaptist_n as_o a_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n p._n 146._o the_o quite_o contrary_a he_o will_v find_v be_v true_a in_o my_o pag._n 242._o where_o i_o proauce_n he_o as_o the_o great_a enemy_n and_o persecutor_n of_o bruno_n and_o berengarius_fw-la for_o their_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n and_o be_v it_o not_o very_o injurious_a and_o conterdictious_a for_o he_o to_o own_o that_o durandus_fw-la be_v so_o severe_a a_o enemy_n against_o anabaptist_n and_o yet_o not_o to_o acknowledge_v and_o allow_v i_o bruno_n and_o berengarius_fw-la my_o two_o witness_n i_o produce_v for_o deny_v infant_n baptism_n that_o he_o persecute_v the_o same_o it_o be_v true_a durandus_fw-la be_v in_o the_o index_n i_o do_v not_o know_v how_o put_v among_o the_o witness_n but_o the_o say_a index_n direct_v to_o the_o page_n where_o the_o story_n be_v right_o tell_v you_o and_o from_o whence_o he_o have_v the_o account_n what_o a_o enemy_n he_o be_v to_o the_o anabaptist_n apamen_n bishop_n of_o apamen_n four_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o apamen_n etc._n etc._n be_v mention_v among_o my_o witness_n and_o pag._n 231._o say_v to_o be_v for_o anabaptism_n yet_o not_o say_v to_o be_v against_o infant_n baptism_n pag._n 146._o but_o the_o late_a century_n writer_n so_o call_v they_o in_o a_o modern_a sense_n we_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o doubt_v it_o five_o that_o i_o have_v nothing_o to_o evidence_n that_o peter_n bruis_n bruis_n pet._n bruis_n deny_v infant_n baptism_n but_o the_o impudent_a story_n of_o two_o lying_z abot●_z when_o he_o know_v i_o produce_v three_o or_o four_o evidence_n more_o to_o prove_v it_o and_o he_o also_o know_v that_o those_o pretend_a absurdety_n he_o will_v bring_v upon_o the_o two_o abbot_n viz._n cluniacenses_fw-la and_o bernard_n be_v lie_v forgery_n of_o his_o own_o which_o i_o shall_v present_o demonstrate_v six_o that_o i_o have_v no_o ground_n to_o say_v ●hat_n wickliff_n wickliff_n wickliff_n deny_v infant_n baptism_n p._n 146._o when_o i_o produce_v so_o much_o evidence_n to_o prove_v it_o which_o you_o have_v from_o p._n 283._o to_o 289._o demonstrate_v that_o he_o not_o only_o affirm_v that_o believer_n be_v the_o only_a subject_n of_o baptism_n but_o withal_o that_o child_n be_v not_o sacramental_o to_o be_v baptize_v and_o what_o can_v be_v more_o express_a evidence_n in_o the_o case_n another_o piece_n of_o injurious_a deal_n detect_v a_o notorious_a fallacy_n &_o abuse_v detect_v i_o have_v to_o complain_v against_o our_o author_n for_o be_v for_o his_o father_n so_o notorious_a a_o fallacy_n upon_o the_o reader_n and_o abuse_v upon_o myself_o in_o affirm_v that_o i_o produce_v a_o great_a bede-role_n of_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n who_o be_v so_o firm_o for_o it_o as_o i_o in_o contra_fw-la diction_n to_o myself_o grant_v viz._n austin_n chrysostome_n pag._n 25._o of_o he_o and_o theophilact_v anselme_n bede_n gregory_n anslbertus_n albertus_n lombard_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o three_o counsel_n of_o bracarens_n tollatan_n and_o constantinople_n in_o his_o recapitulation_n p._n 139_o etc._n etc._n whereas_o i_o have_v again_o and_o ●gain_o say_v that_o i_o produce_v they_o not_o as_o positive_a witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n there_o be_v not_o one_o of_o they_o in_o my_o catalogue_n which_o will_v have_v be_v madness_n indeed_o wh●n_o i_o have_v bring_v they_o in_o among_o those_o that_o have_v asse●ted_v infant_n baptism_n but_o for_o these_o reason_n only_o viz._n 1._o first_o to_o show_v what_o strong_a argument_n witness_n why_o person_n own_v infant_n baptism_n be_v produce_v for_o witness_n so_o agree_v to_o the_o scripture_n institution_n and_o pattern_n they_o have_v themselves_o produce_v for_o believer_n baptism_n only_o viz._n from_o the_o necessity_n of_o confession_n and_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n before_o baptism_n 2._o second_o upon_o what_o weak_a and_o erroneous_a ground_n they_o assert_v infant_n baptism_n also_o most_o of_o which_o i_o have_v give_v pro_fw-la and_o con_v that_o their_o contradiction_n not_o i_o may_v appear_v 3._o three_o that_o that_o which_o they_o make_v to_o reconcile_v that_o contradiction_n may_v appear_v insignificant_a viz._n the_o confession_n and_o profession_n of_o gossip_n or_o surety_n for_o they_o of_o which_o the_o scripture_n make_v no_o mention_n and_o whereby_o all_o the_o former_a authority_n for_o believer_n baptism_n may_v appear_v good_a for_o we_o and_o against_o themselves_o church_n the_o witness_n produce_v from_o church_n have_v thus_o clear_v my_o testimony_n give_v in_o from_o particular_a person_n i_o come_v in_o the_o next_o place_n to_o examine_v what_o he_o have_v say_v to_o the_o witness_n produce_v from_o the_o several_a church_n i_o have_v mention_v viz._n the_o waldenses_n donatist_n britain_n &c._n &c._n concern_v who_o he_o be_v please_v thus_o to_o express_v himself_o p._n 129._o and_o in_o reference_n to_o the_o confidence_n of_o my_o antagonist_n that_o the_o waldenses_n donatist_n and_o britain_n be_v all_o against_o infante_n baptism_n when_o none_o of_o they_o be_v make_v good_a the_o proverb_n pertureant_a montes_n etc._n etc._n but_o what_o cause_n he_o have_v for_o this_o confident_a vain_a glorious_a boast_n will_v soon_o be_v try_v the_o witness_v bear_v by_o the_o waldenses_n against_o infant_n baptism_n justify_v baptism_n the_o 4._o fold_n evidence_n to_o prove_v the_o wald._n deny_v infant_n baptism_n the_o first_o he_o oppose_v be_v th●t_v of_o the_o waldenses_n who_o witness_n against_o infant_n baptism_n i_o make_v good_a from_o a_o four_o fold_v demonstration_n viz._n fit_v from_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n second_o from_o the_o witness_n bear_v thereto_o by_o their_o most_o eminent_a men._n three_o from_o the_o decree_n of_o counsel_n pope_n and_o emperor_n against_o the_o body_n of_o the_o people_n for_o the_o same_o and_o four_o from_o the_o footstep_n thereof_o they_o have_v leave_v in_o the_o several_a region_n and_o country_n where_o they_o have_v be_v disperse_v upon_o which_o he_o make_v this_o follow_a reply_n pag._n 46._o viz._n that_o there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o people_n that_o it_o be_v like_a will_v be_v impose_v upon_o by_o the_o flourish_v which_o this_o champion_n make_v those_o who_o be_v ignorant_a and_o those_o who_o be_v prejudice_v against_o infant_n baptism_n no_o doubt_n but_o all_o this_o will_v pass_v for_o gospel_n among_o such_o but_o i_o may_v say_v of_o the_o author_n multa_fw-la loquor_fw-la sed_fw-la nihil_fw-la dicit_fw-la or_o rather_o probat_fw-la and_o that_o which_o he_o say_v be_v but_o vox_fw-la &_o praeterea_fw-la nihil_fw-la a_o great_a sound_n of_o word_n but_o no_o proof_n and_o this_o he_o promise_v to_o make_v appear_v in_o order_n to_o the_o first_o as_o to_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n he_o say_v two_o thing_n first_o that_o there_o be_v no_o such_o confession_n to_o be_v find_v of_o that_o nature_n nor_o any_o thing_n that_o look_v like_o a_o confession_n unless_o it_o be_v in_o utopia_n pag._n 111._o but_o my_o adversary_n have_v a_o notable_a dexterity_n to_o prove_v quidlibet_fw-la ex_fw-la quolibet_fw-la p._n 46._o second_o that_o the_o quite_o contrary_a appear_v by_o their_o contrary_a confession_n of_o faith_n witness_v how_o firm_o they_o do_v assert_v infant_n baptism_n pag._n 46_o and_o 64._o etc._n etc._n to_o both_o which_o i_o answer_v first_o that_o it_o may_v be_v manifest_a to_o the_o reader_n that_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n do_v indeed_o exclude_v infant_n from_o baptism_n i_o shall_v give_v in_o a_o parallel_n betwixt_o what_o their_o confession_n say_v and_o what_o he_o in_o the_o repetition_n thereof_o make_v they_o say_v and_o leave_v it_o to_o 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