alijs Episcopis sunt terminandae And to proue that scandalous men of the Clargie should not be punished or examined by Lay-men this reason is often repeated in diuers Epistles that if since the Apostles times that course had beene taken to punish such then few or none should now haue beene left aliue in the Clargie which is a secret confession that all the Clargie of the Court of Rome were at this time of euill and scandalous life and conuersation Marcellus as writing to Maxentius the tyrant is produced to say thus Synodum absque huius sanctae sedis authoritate Episcoporum quanquam quosdam Episcopos possitis congr◅gare nonpotestis regulariter facere neque vllum Episcopum qui hanc appellauerit apostolicam sedem damnare autequā hinc sententia defintiua proccdat These and such like are their grounds of Iurisdiction which need no refutation for absurdities carie alwayes their owne bane in themselues this is refutation ynough for such things to make those things well knowen 9. These testimonies for Iurisdiction drawen from these forged Epistles may giue vs occasion to obserue First that the Bishops of Rome haue long greedily gaped after this Iurisdiction to obtain their purpose herein haue made no bones at forgerie As first they attempted that forgerie of a Canon of the Nicen Councellin Saint Augustines time but were then repressed so the diuell to bring them to greater shame mooued them afterward to greater forgerie in deuising so many decretall Epistles to establish this Iurisdiction by this shamelesse attempt which by other direct meanes they could not doe Seconly so greedily are they set vpon this purpose as men blinded with affection that they consider neither manner nor matter nor coherence onely the impotent loue to this Iurisdiction carrieth them through thicke and thin as in many things may be obserued I obserue onely that which toucheth our question for in these Epistles this Iurisdictiō of the Church of Rome and appellation to that Church is maintained as from the institution of Christ himselfe out of these words Tues Petrus c. Now these Epistles must be supposed to be written long before Saint Augustines time when Zoz◅mus Boniface and Caelestinus claimed the same Iurisdiction by the forged Canon of the Nicen Councell for before those times these Bishops liued who are deuised the authors of these Epistles If these Epistles had then beene extant why did not the Popes claime their Iurisdiction by these testimonies which were supposed to be written so long before the Canons of the Nicen Councell What needed they to haue forged a Canon if they had so faire euidences to shew And why did they claime it by a Canon of the Councell when they might haue laid their claime directly from the commaundement of Christ 10. But if these Epistles were not then extant as certainely they were not why should any credit bee giuen to things so manifestly forged Why should any claime be made to Iurisdiction vpon such false grounds Thirdly we obserue also the cursed obstinacie and affected blindnesse of the learned Papists Bellarmine and such who know well that these Epistles are forged and confesse it knowing that this Iurisdiction of the Pope was neuer claimed iure diuino as from Christs owne institution before these Epistles by forgerie inuented that claime are so bewitched in the seruice of the Pope and in this question of Iurisdiction that against learning iudgement conscience all they hold this Iurisdiction to be iure diuino in the grossest sort maintaine it no otherwise then these confessed forgeries haue taught them by those deprauations corruptions and detortions of Scriptures Tues Petrus and such like An indifferent man would thinke that either they should not confesse these forgeries or confessing them they should hate and abhorre these grounds of Iurisdiction which onely the forged Epistles haue deuised from Scripture Fourthly by this we may looke a little farther into the deepenesse of Satan and behold how the Popes Clarkes lie plunging for Iurisdiction 11. For the Councell of Trent being awaked at the preaching of Master Luther and other and finding that the corruptions which were brought into the doctrines of the Court of Rome could not bee mainteined by Scriptures being directly repugnant thereto deuised a very foule shift to maintaine all by vnwritten traditions And for this purpose enacted a Canon that the traditions of the Church of Rome must be honoured and imbraced with the like honour and reuerence as the holy Scriptures are honoured Therefore they deuise the word of God to be either written in Scriptures or vnwritten in Traditions which vnwritten Traditions they reuerence for Gods word no lesse then the holy Scriptures themselues And if you aske how shall men trie true Traditions they aunswere there is no better triall then the iudgement of the Church of Rome Ex tcstimonio huius solius Ecclesiae sumi potest certum argumentum ad probandas Apostolicas Traditiones By these principles if they might once haue them graunted they thinke themselues able to conclude any thing to delude the holy Scriptures and to set vp prophane and Barbarous forgeries in place of holy Scriptures For if wee denie this pretended Iurisdiction they will aunswere that it is grounded vpon the word of God if we demaund what word they haue for it They tell vs Tu es Petrus c. and such like If wee say the sense and meaning of those Scriptures doe no way maintaine that Iurisdiction the auncient Fathers neuer expounded them so that that sense was neuer drawen from these Scriptures before these forged decretall Epistles deuised it To this they will say they take that sense of Scriptures which the Church of Rome taketh and the Pope who onely hath authoritie to giue the sense of Scriptures The summe and conclusion of all is this the Traditions of the Church of Rome are to be honoured and reuerenced with the same honour as the holy Scripture but these filthy forged and corrupt Epistles containe the Traditions yea are the Traditions of the Church of Rome therefore these filthy forgeries of corrupt men are to be honoured and reuerenced as the holy Scriptures 12. Now though some men vnlearned may be caried away with this vaine shew of Traditions yet wee see not how their learned men can plead ignorance or excuse who know that those expositions of these Scriptures were first forged in the decretall Epistles these be their Apostolicall Traditions these be matched with holy Scriptures I appeale to the conscience of any Papist that either is or would bee esteemed learned whether these Epistles be not forged in his iudgement And whether the ground of their Iurisdiction be not hence drawen And whether this Iurisdiction which in these Epistles is maintained concerning appellation was not repressed and vtterly denied by Saint Augustine and the rest of those auncients in the Cartheginian Affrican and Mileuitan Councels Perhaps it is not hard for a
place to Gregory the third who succeeded him This Pope as soone as euer he was chosen by the consent of the Romane Clergy depriued Leo the third Emperour from the Empire and from the communion of the faithfull for the same cause to wit for defacing Images which were set vp in Churches to be worshipped This was the ground of the Popes proceeding against the Emperour which is to be obserued By this wee see the state of Rome cleane changed for whereas the Emperours at the first were persecutours and the Bishops of Rome were such as suffered for righteousnesse Now had they changed places for the Popes were become persecutours and the Emperours were such as suffered for righteousnesse For what was the Emperour Leo his fault in breaking downe and defacing Images after that hee found that diuine worship was exhibited to them other then that so much commended zeale of Ezekias in breaking downe the brasen Serpent so that if we looke vpon this fact of the Emperour which was the occasion why the Popes so proceeded against him there can nothing appeare but the Popes persecution and the Emperours suffering for righteousnesse Pope Gregory the third after this called a Synod in Rome wherein the worship of Images was established and all excommunicated that held the contrary All Italy saith Onuphrius fell away from the obedience of Leo the Emperour with the City of Rome and other Westerne parts of the Empire which were before subiect to the Emperour excepting Sicily and a part of Liguria and a little corner of Calabria All this the Emperour lost at once by the practise of Popes 99. Now because wee consider these beginnings of the Popes persecutions for he began with the Emperour whom thus he driued out of Italy putting him from all gouernment in Rome and after tooke vp his place and gouernement let vs heere remember an auncient tradition of the auncient Fathers who wrote before these times with freedom For they are al resolued vpon this as vpon an Apostolicall tradition that Antichrist must driue the Emperour out of the gouernement of Rome and Italy and take vp his place and seate Tertullian doth often repeate this sentence Romanus status cedet Antichristo That is The Romane Empire must giue place to Antichrist And in another place he saith Qui nunc tenet teneat donec de medio fiat Quis nisi Romanus status That is Hee that now with-holdeth shall with-hold till he be taken out of the way Who is that the Romane Empire And vpon those words of the Apostle He that now with-holdeth shall with-hold vntill he be taken away The auncient Fathers writing doe with an admirable consent agree vpon this that the thing which the Apostle saith did with-hold and should with-hold for a time was the Romane Empire For the Empire of Antichrist must be raised vp in the same place where that Empire stood that is in Rome And therefore Hierome writing of those wordes of the Apostle except there come a departing first that that man be disclosed saith Nisi venerit discessio primum vt omnes gentes quae Romano Imperio subiacent recedant abeis That is Vnlesse a departing first come that all the Nations which now are subiect to the Empire of Rome may depart from that subiection Therefore he saith that the Apostle left this tradition which he thought not good to commit to writing Remember you not that when I was with you I tolde you of these things saith the Apostle If any man aske why the Apostle thought good rather to commit this thing to their memory then to writing to this the same Author Saint Hierome aunswereth in the same place Si apertè audacterque dixisset non veniet Antichristus nisi prius Romanum deleatur Imperium iusta causa persecutionis in orientem tunc Ecclesiam consurgere videbatur That is If Saint Paul had said plainly and boldly Antichrist shall not come vnlesse the Romane Empire be first destroyed this might haue ministred a iust cause of persecution to the Church then rising Then the Apostle would not speake this thing directly for feare of drawing a persecution vpon the Church but committed it to their memories Remember you not that when I was yet with you I told you If any man demaund this question why then doe you admit some Apostolicall traditions I answer 100. Let these two limitations be remembred and then I know not why Apostolicall traditions may not bee admitted First it must haue an euident ground in the Scripture Secondly it must haue the consenting testimonie of auncient Fathers confirming it to be an Apostolicall tradition These two conditions are both kept in this particular which now I speake of and in the baptising of Infants But to take a tradition from the bare testimony of any Church without a ground of Scripture and the testimonie of the ancient Fathers bearing witnesse that it was an Apostolicall tradition this wee vtterly refuse as vnwarrantable Concerning this particular the rest of the Fathers yeeld the like consent to these Ambrose saith Non prius veniet Antichristus quam Regni Romani fiat defectio Augustine saith Quidam putant hec de Imperio dictum fuisse Romano proptereà Paulum Apostolum non â—…d aperte scribere voluisse ne calumniam videlicet incurreret quasi Romano Imperiomalè optauerit And in the same place Tantum qui modo tenet teneat donec de medio tollatur non absurdè de ipso Romano Imperio creditur Another of the auncients saith thus Vt qui tenet nunc teneat donec de medio fiat Donec Regnum quod nunc tenet de medio auferatur priusquam Antichristus reueletur Iohn Chrysostome and Oecumenius summing his words say thns writing vpon that Scripture 2. Thess. 2. Solum est qui modo retinet Thronus videlicet Regnum Romanorum quodnunc impedimento est donec cesset finemque accipiat â—…uncreuelabitur iniquus ille hoc est Antichristus Vbi enim Imperium Rom. fuerit dissolutum tunc Antichristus rebellione irruet ac obtinere conabitur non hominum solum verum Dei Imperium Romanorum autem Imperium ipse Antichristus perfectè abolebit Quemadmodum 〈◊〉 Medorum Imperium à Babylonijs dissolutum est Babyloniorum à Persis Persarum quoque à Macedonibus Macedonum a Romanis it a Romanorum ab Antichristo Antichristi à Domino nostro That thing which withholdeth is the Romane Empire which now stayeth the matter till it cease and come to an end Then shall that wicked man be reuealed that is Antichrist For when the Romane Empire shall be destroyed then shall Antichrist by rebellion inuade and shall seeke to draw to himselfe not onely the power of men but of God also And Antichrist shall vtterly make an end of the Romane Empire For as the Empire of the Medes was destroyed by the Babylonians and that of the Babylonians by the
tearme it from whence all Spirituall Iurisdiction must proceed to others some adde also Temporall of Spirituall Iurisdiction Bellarmine saith all Bishops receiue Iurisdiction from the Pope The like some of them or some others teach also of Temporall power the difference which they obserue is that Spirituall power is deriued from the Pope to all Bishops but Temporall power is giuen to execute some seruice Augustinus Triumphus of Ancona who wrote about three hundreth yeeres agoe at the commaundement of Iohn 22. Pope set foorth of late by the authoritie and priuiledge of Gregorie 13. did long before the Iesuits dispute this question of the Popes Soueraigne authoritie ouer Princes since which time the Friars haue closely followed his footsteps His assertion is Omnis potestas imperatorum regum est subdelegata respectu potestatis Papae And againe in the same place Omnis potestas saecularis est restringenda amplianda executioni mandanda ad imperium Papâ—… These and the like positions are now resolutely and stiffely maintained by the Iesuits and others of that faction 3. This agreeth well with the Canon lawes which are the fundamentall lawes of the court of Rome For thus they say Nos tam ex superioritate quam ad imperium non est dubium nos habere c. That is we aswell by that soueraignetie and right which without all doubt we haue to the Empire as also by that power whereby we succâ—…ed the Emperour in the vacancie of the Empire and no lesse also by the fulnesse of that power which Christ the King of kings and Lord of lords hath in the person of Saint Peter graunted to vs though vnworthy declare all such sentences and processes made by Henry 7. void and of none effect Thus saith Clement 5. Pope against Henrie 7. Emperour To the same purpose saith Boniface 8. Pope in a Constitution of his Oportet gladâ—…um esse sub gladio c. That is one sword must be vnder another sword and the Temporall authoritie must be subiected to the Spirituall authoritie for when the Apostle saith there is no power but of God and the powers that are are ordained of God They could not be ordinated vnlesse one sword were vnder another and a little after Thus of the Church and of the power Ecclesiasticall is verified the prophecie of Ieremie behold I haue sâ—…t thee ouer nations and kingdomes to plucke vp and to root out and to destroy and to throw downe and to build and to plant And againe we declare we say we define we pronounce that it is necessarie to saluation to beleeue that euery humane creature is subiect to the Pope of Rome These be the lawes of the court of Rome which some of late haue so much adored as to call them Catholike Diuinitie and which for truth and certaintie and for authoritie ouer their consciences they hold comparable euen with the holy Scriptures 4. By all which wee collect the doctrine of the court of Rome or the Popes faction to be that the Pope hath all power Spirituall and Temporall aboue all other whatsoeuer This I call the opinion of the Court of Rome or the Popes faction because we finde the most learned of the Church of Rome to hold the contrary For concerning spirituall power the best learned of the Church of Rome yea and whole councels maintaine the Spiritual power of the Church to be aboue the Pope as hereafter we shall declare And for this Temporall power aboue Kings and Emperours claimed by the Popes in their Canon Lawe maintained by their flatterers it seemeth so straunge so new and absurd that they who maintaine it are not as yet agreed vpon the state of the question For some hold that the Pope hath this power directly ouer Princes as the Canonists to whom some of the Shoole-men may be added as Triumphus and some of late called Congregationis Oratorij as Cardinall Baronius Bozius and such Others denying this direct power hold that the Pope hath the same power but indirectly as depending vpon his Spirituall power of this opinion is Cardinall Bellarmine and others these both hold the same conclusion but differ in the manner of holding it Others there be who are in some sort content to allowe the Popes Fatherhood in spirituall matters in case lie would not prooue incorrigible but vtterly denie this power ouer princes both direct and indirect of this opinion was Guil. Occham Ma' silius Patauinus and other learned men of the Church of Rome And of late Guil. Berclaius a French Lawyer hath with great learning refuted both the former opinions of the Popes power direct and indirect against Bozius and Bellarmine and yet this man professeth himselfe to be resolued to liue and die a Papist so that on the one side stand all the reformed Churches and many of the best learned of the Church of Rome I may say all the Church of old and of late On the other side standeth the Pope with his faction that is his flatterers and this I call with some of former ages the Court of Rome this is the opinion of our aduersaries 5. Our positiue sentence against this standeth in two parts as the Pope hath incroached on two sides both vpon the right of Kings and of the Church Concerning the Kings right we hold that in externall coactiue Iurisdiction the King hath supreame authoritie in all causes and ouer all persons Ecclesiasticall aswell as Ciuill This is that which hath bene published by diuerse writings and ordinances which by publike authoritie haue beene enacted and published declaring that the King within hi Dominions hath this soueraigne authoritie and that heerein there is no forraine power aboue the King The authority of the Church hath beene in like sort vsurped by the Pope by drawing to himselfe a supposed title of the head of the vniuersall Church by deuising a straunge authority in the fulnesse of power by claiming a newe and straunge priuiledge of his not erring iudgement and making himselfe the onely iudge of controuersies of faith This power in iudging and determining of controuersies of faith and religion being partly in the Church partly in the Scriptures the Pope hath wrested from both first extolling the Church aboue the Scriptures and then setting himselfe aboue the Church Then that the limits of each power may be truely knowne we giue all spirituall power to the Church all externall coactiue iurisdiction to the King when each of these shall haue taken vp his owne right there will not be so much left to the Pope as these great flatterers the Iesuits seeke to heape vpon him Our purpose is first to dispute the right which Kings haue in coactiue power ouer all persons and in all causes euen Ecclesiasticall within his dominions by persons ecclesiasticall wee vnderstand Archbishops Bishops Deans Rectors and all other set in calling and place Ecclesiasticall by causes Ecclesiasticall wee vnderstand causes Ecclesiasticall of externall coactiue
consecration of Aaron and his sonnes is done altogether by Moses These things though they make faire shew for the Princes Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall ouer Priests yet wee purpose not to stand vpon them 3. But when the Priest was once consecrated and ordained and all things fully perfected concerning his function and two seuerall and distinct functions set vp then will appeare without faile in Moses his successors the right of Princes in Aaron his successors the right of Priests After all things thus perfected we finde that all the lawes which in truth proceeded originally from God were established by the authoritie of Moses and this we finde true not onely in Iudiciall and Ciuill Lawes which were to rule that state but euen in ceremoniall and Morall Lawes which were to rule the Church There is not so much as one ceremoniall law established by the authoritie of Aaron but in all the name and authoritie of Moses is expressed only we finde concerning Aaron that if any doubt in the lawes ceremoniall did arise for the interpretation of those lawes and of such doubts the high Priest must sit as iudge For the people are charged in matters that are hard to consult with the Priest and ciuill iudge Deut. 17. 8. c. Which the learned interpreters vnderstand thus that if the cause be mixt partly Ciuill partly Ceremoniall or doubâ—…full that then both the Ciuill Magistrate and the Priest must iointly determine it but if the people haue distinct causes some Ciuill other Ceremoniall the Ciuill Magistrate must iudge the causes Ciuill and the Priest must iudge the causes Ceremoniall from the consideration of which place we may drawe certaine inferences 4. First all Lawes euen Ceremoniall that is Lawes whereunto Spirituall or Canon Lawes are answerable are established by the authoritie of the Ciuill Magistrate This taketh away all authoritie of the Popes Canon law in all Christian kingdomes where it is not established by the authoritie of Kings in their kingdomes For it is against all reaâ—…on and rules whether we looke vpon the light of nature or vpon the Scriptures or the lawfull practife of authoritie since the Scriptures were written that any Lawes should be imposed vpon a Prince against or without his consent as the Popes haue indeuoured to impose the Canon Lawes vpon Princes And this appeareth in the practise of Christian Magistrates so long as lawfull authoritie stood up without confusion in the world But heere we consider the fountaine of that practise which was from Gods Law wherein we see all Lawes confirmed and established by the authoritie of the Ciuill Magistrate And if it could bee prooued that in some Lawes Ceremoniall the authoritie of Aaron was requisite yet this helpeth them nothing that plead for the Popes Canons For these men would impose these Canons vpon Princes without their consent but in all these Lawes of Moses wherein is a perfect patterne for all law-makers they cannot shew one Law though neuer so nearely concerning the Church which is established without the authoritie of Moses the Ciuill Magistrate If they obiect these things were all done by an especiall commaundement of God I aunswere this doth more establish the authoritie of Princes and confirme our purpose for let them aunswere why God would haue all these things established by the Ciuill Magistrate and not by the Priest This then maketh a greater and clearer confirmation of the Princes right Then the Church may interpret Scripture determine controuersies of faith but cannot establish a Law the reason is because for the establishing of Lawes coactiue power is requisite which is in the Ciuil Magistrate not in the Church And therefore the Canon Lawes can haue no force of lawes but as they are receiued and established by Princes in their seuerall kingdomes For neither can the law haue the force of a law without coactiue power neither hath the Pope any coactiue power in the kingdomes of other Princes but onely in such places where himselfe is a Temporall Prince 5. Secondly we obserue that the high Priest is appointed by God a iudge for interpretation of those lawes that concerne the Church in questions of conscience in causes mixt or doubtfull This might moderate the humours of some who in loue to innouation would leaue no place of iudicature to Ecclesiasticall persons for these things are insert into Moses lawe taken from the law of Nature and not as things Ceremoniall which thing is apparant from the end vse and necessitie thereof for the things which had a necessary vse before the written law and must haue a necessary vse after the abrogation of that law must be acknowledged to be taken from a perpetuall law because there must be a perpetuall rule for a perpetuall necessity This then being perpetuall and necessary matters of question and of Ecclesiasticall audience still arising the hearing and iudging of such things belong to such as are most skilfull in those affaires And hence is the iudicature of fuch things assigned to the Priest which right of Ecclesiasticall iudgements and courts standeth no lesse now due to them in the time of grace then it was under the law because this office in iugdeing hearing and determining is not heere giuen to Priests as a thing Ceremoniall but as I haue declared deriued from the law of Nature as a perpetuall seruice for a perpetuall vse 6. Thirdly we consider that the lawes Ecclesiastical are established by the authoritie of the Ciuill Magistrate but for interpretation of them the Priest is appointed to iudge Hence riseth the ground of Iurisdiction both Temporall and Spirituall wee consider Iurisdiction here as our question importeth authority coactiue in externall iudicature in the execution of lawes The fountaine of this authoritie is in him principally by whose authoritie the law is established and without whose authoritie it is not The execution of this authoritie is in them that are appointed iudges And heerein there is no difference betweene Temporall and Ecclesiasticall authoritie I speake not nowe of Spirituall gouernment by the lawes of God executed within the court of Conscience but of Ecclesiasticall gouernment in the execution of lawes Ecclesiasticall wherin there is vse of coactiue power These two things being in themselues and in nature so distinct if this one distinction might be remembred it is ynough to aunswere all the confused collections of that Catholike Diuine who wrote of late against the fift part of Reports of the Lord Cooke For all that hee writeth there resting vpon no other ground then vpon the confounding of Spirituall and Ecclesiasticall power is answered in one word by this one poore distinction betweene these two powers Now the distinction is apparant because in Spirituall gouernment there is no coactiue power but in Ecclesiasticall iudicature there is coactiue power which maketh an euident and famous difference in Iurisdiction because this is most certaine that all that Iurisdiction wherin coactiue power is vsed is from the Ciuill Magistrate Then if these two
extraordinary example that wee see rather that Salomon doth mitigate the ordinary punishment of that crime which Abiathar had committed Moreouer to punish or to release the punishment of treason belongeth not to the office of a Prophet but of the King but Salomon in this action punishing the treason of Abiathar releaseth some part of it All which proue the distorted shift of Tortus to be so vaine and shamelesse that the blushing Hat of a Cardinall is not broad enough to couer the shame In these things and in supreame appellation standeth Ecclesiasticall iurisdiction which by diuine right was placed in these Kings and by them practised CHAP. IIII. Externall Coactiue Iurisdiction was not left by Christ to his Church nor practised by the Church all that while that the Church was without Christian Magistrates wherein is declared the Iurisdiction of the Church and of Bishops that the power of excommunication proceeded not to Coaction NOw let vs make search in the Church of Christians wherein we will consider first the state of the Church after it was called by Christ and his Apostles and gouerned by the Fathers for the space of the first three hundred yeeres in all which time no Christian was the Soueraigne Magistrate In this time it will be to good purpose to search the Iurisdiction of the Church for this is the time wherein it will most cleerely appeare And Christ that appointeth all times states for his Church appointed that all this time she should be without Princes for her nourcing Fathers that by wanting it so long we might vnderstand the greatnesse of this blessing But when the Church of Rome grew insolent by abusing this blessing taking the right of Princes from them and thereby remouing the ancient bounds of the Ordinances which God had set of old then it was not to bee marueiled that such iudgements followed of blindnesse and ignorance among the people of confusion and contempt vpon Princes and Kings which iudgements haue beene so famously apparant in the sight of the world But let vs proceed to the examination of the Churches Iurisdiction for if we consider what Iurisdiction Iesus Christ left to his Church it will consequently appeare what Iurisdiction is in Ciuill Princes for all that Christ gaue not to his Church remaineth with Princes 2. The places from which they would prooue Iurisdiction are these Mat. 18. Whatsoeuer you shall binde on earth shall be bound in heauen And whosoeuers sinnes you retaine shall be retained Now these places make no proofe of this Iurisdiction which is in question For all Popish writers that I could see vpon this question acknowledg these Scripturs not to be meant of externall Iurisdiction coactiue which is our question but of the inward power of remitting of sinnes practised within the court of conscience by the power of Gods spirit and declared by the Priest and ordinarily practised in excommunication or otherwise The greater condemnation deserueth that Catholike Diuine who to disprooue the Iurisdiction of Princes and to proue the Popes pretended Iurisdiction bringeth these places of Scripture which speake of neither Other places they cite as that Thou art Peter and vpon this rocke will I build my Church and I will giue to thee the keyes of the kingdome of heauen And Simon louest thou mee feede my Lambes c. These and such like places they bring to proue the Popes Iurisdiction All of this sort are throughly handled with exact iudgement and learning in that worthy conference written by Doctor Raynolds of blessed memory which booke as a gantlet of one of the worthies of our Church hath lien long betweene vs and the host of the Philistims and none of our adueâ—…saries hath had the courage to take it vp and to aunswere it 3. It is sufficient for vs to pleade that none of the auncient Fathers did euer expound these Scriptures thus or did euer dreame of such senses as they haue found of late out of their owne decretall Epistles It is sufficient that some of their owne best learned writers yea some of their most learned Popes before they were Popes haue with such learning and iudgement refuted their new deuised expositions of these Scriptures as that from themselues and out of their owne mouthes God hath drawen testimonies to ouerthrow these carnall and absurd expositions of Scriptures Iohn Gerson saith that these texts thus by the Popes flatterers applied to prooue his Iurisdiction are vnderstood by them Grossé non secundum regulam Euangelicam And Aenaeas Siluius hath with great life and learning ouerthrowen these grosse and corrupt expositions of whom we shall speake hereafter in due place where it will fully appeare that these expositions of Scripture are by the learned free and iudicious men of that side acknowledged to bee inuented by flatterers as the same Pope Pius the second witnesseth to be new and straunge and to be vrged by miserable and wretched soules which will not vnderstand that these challenges of their Iurisdiction are nothing but either the words of the Popes themselues that would inlarge their fringes without measure or of their flatterers who being blinded by ambition and caried with the winde of vaineglory doe flatter the Popes in hope of reward Though now those flatterers haue gotâ—… the vpper hand in the Councell of Trent and haue vsurped the name of the Church who before were alwayes esteemed a base company standing for the Popes Iurisdiction against the graue and learned men of that Church 4. Then for the places of Scripture which they bring for this Iurisdiction we say with their owne best learned men that they are in that sense wherein they vse them new deuises drawen of late by strange and absurd contortions into this new flattering sense by the Popes flatterers against the auncient expositions of the Fathers and Doctors of the Church Concerning the Iurisdiction which Christ left to his Church let all the Scriptures be searched and there will nothing be found of externall Iurisdiction consisting in power coactiue but all that Christ left was partly yea principally inward and spirituall power partly externall for establishing doctrines of faith and good order in the Church by Councels determinations iudicature spirituall censures excommunication deposing and dispatching of the disobedient so farre as the Church could proceede without coactiue power For by this spirituall power without coaction the Church was called faith was planted diuils were subdued the nations were taken out of the power of darkenesse the world was reduced to the obedience of Christ by this power the Church was gouerned for three hundred yeeres together without any coactiue Iurisdiction But what coactiue power may worke in the Church without this we haue a lamentable experience in the present court of Rome falling away from the truth and from the comfort of the spirit and therefore from the true vse of the power of the spirit of God when the Popes being destitute of this
Christian Magistrates but was alwayes vnderstoode to belong to the ciuill Magistrate whether he were Christian or heathen We denie not but that the Apostles did sometimes take vengeance vpon the disobedient but that was not by the materiall sword in the power whereof we place coaction but by the spirituall sword which alwayes shewed it selfe in their Ministery sometimes in an extraordinary manner as in the striking of Ananias and Saphira with present death in the striking of Elimas the Sorcerer with blindnesse and such like These were signes of extraordinary power but wee seeke heere the ordinary Iurisdiction of the Apostles which they left to their successours 10 Vpon these grounds ioyned with the assured knowledge of the History of those times the auncient Fathers deliuer it as a truth neuer questioned nor doubted that in the gouernment of the Church the Bishops are the vndoubted successours of the Apostles Irenaeus speaking of heretikes saith Omnes hi posteriorâ—…s sunâ—… episcopis quibus apostoli tradiderunt ecclesias If Bishops were before any heretikes they were questionlesse in the Apostles time and by the Apostles instituted because some heretikes were euen in the Apostles time Irenaeus saith also Habemus annumer are eos qui ab Apostolis instituti sunt episcopi in Ecclesiis And a little after Quibus etiam ipsas Ecclesias committebant And againe in the same place Quos successo es reliquerunt suum ipsorum locum magisterij tradentes Cyprian saith Potestas peccatorum remittendorum Apostolis data est Ecclesiis quas illi à Christo missi constuuerunt et episcopis qui eis ordinatioâ—…e 〈◊〉 successerunt The same hee hath also Epist. 69. Hierome saith Potentia diuitiarum paupertatis humilitas vel sublimiorem vel inferiorem Episcopum non facit Caeterum omnes Apostolorum successores sunt It were hard to kicke against all these pricks Against so euident grounds of Scripture so expresse testimonies of Fathers to deuise a new gouernment of the Church Leauing the auncient and knowne gouernment which hath the testimonie of those that liued in the first age and heard and sawe those that were endued with miraculous gifts as Irenaeus testifieth of himselfe that hee heard those which spake by the spirit in all languages and sawe them who often raised the dead to life againe Leauing I say the testimonie of these whose name and authority is so reuerend in the Church and striuing for a gouernment which came but of late to the knowledge of men seemeth to proceede from affections too much blinded with the loue of innouation 11 But though this be true that Bishops in the gouernment of the Church succeede the Apostles yet we are cautelously to distinguish betweene the things wherein they succeede the Apostles and those things which since the Apostles times haue beene added to their gouernment by godly Princes For the preseruation of true doctrine in the Church the Bishops are the great watch-men Herein they are authorized by God If Princes withstand them in these things they haue warrant not to obey Princes because with these things Christ hath put them in trust Therefore S. Paul saith not that it is the Kings office but the Bishops to commaund that they teach no other doctriâ—…e Vpon which ground S. Ambrose was bolde to withstand Valentinian Emperour For Ambrose as the watch-man of the Church of Millaine would not suffer Auxentius an Arian Bishop to haue any place to teach in his Diocesse Auxentius complained to the Emperour as the contention grew thus betweene them the one like a vigilant watch-man seeking to remoue all dangers from his flocke the other like a Wolfe seeking to spoile at the earnest entreaty of Auxentius the Emperour willed that the cause betweene these two might be heard in the Ecclesiasticall consistorie and that the Emperour might sit as Iudge in the cause This thing Ambrose vtterly denied and of this hee writeth thus to the Emperour Quando audisti clemeÌ„tissime imperator in causasidei Laicos de Episcopo iudicasse And againe Sivel Scripturarum seriem diuinarum vel catera tempora retractemus quis est qui abnuat in causa fidei in causa inquamsidei Episcopos solere de imperatoribus Christianis non imperatores de Episcopo iudicare And in another place Volens nunquam ius deseram coactus repugnare non nout arma enim nostra preces sunt lachrymae This example of Ambrose his courage is worthily commended by all posterity wherein this worthy man seemeth to direct a true rule of obedience For Iustina the Emperours mother seeing she could not draw Ambrose to fauour the Arians purposed to put him from the gouernment of the Church Which thing would haue beene effected if he had not refused to appeare in the Court where the Emperour was to sit as Iudge There appeared in him courage godlinesse and exact obedience all truly tempered He denieth the Emperour to be a sufficient Iudge in a cause of faith and religion In causafidei in causa inquam fidei For this hee repeateth precisely desirous to be rightly vnderstood he would rather die then admit such an example as to betray the trueth and that commission and charge wherein GOD had set him And yet if the Emperour would by force doe any thing he denieth that there is any power in him or in the Church to resist by force The faith and right of the Church was not in his iudgement to be maintained by force and armes but by prayers and teares Thus resolute is this godly man in the cause of faith against the Emperour but in other causes he claimeth no priuiledge no immunities and therefore in the same place hee faith Si tributum petit imperator non negamus agri Ecclesiae tributum soluunt Athanasius ad solitar vitam agentes speaking to Constans the Emperour saith Let religious Bishops perswade the Emperor that he corrupt not the Church nor mingle the Romane Empire with Ecclesiasticall constitutions And Hillarie writing to Constantius saith to the same purpose Prouideat decernat clementia tua c. Let your clemency prouide and establish that all Iudges to whom the care of publike businesse belongeth may abstaine from religious constitutions Thus did the auncient Bishops gouerne the Church not suffering any King or Emperour to meddle with the determinations of matters of faith For of such matters are these testimonies to be vnderstood and onely of such In like manner Chrysostome resisted Gaina generall of the forces of Arcadius Emperour Who would haue had a Church within Constantinople for himselfe and the Arians The Emperour was willing to gratifie him or not willing to displease him for his greatnesse but Iohn Chrysostome did vtterly denie it as a thing vnlawfull Thus by the warrant of Scriptures and examples of Fathers we giue to Caesar all coactiue power which is due to him but spirituall gouernment we giue not to him this is that
the bright day of humilitie to such as desire to see God Thus write the Fathers of that Councell to Pope Caelestinus intimating by what meanes that smoke did begin to rise to darken the Church which is prophesied in the Reuelation which came out of the bottomlesse piâ—…t like the smoke of a great furnace Vpon these reasons they make a decree to preuent his ambitious desires by which decree they forbid all appellations to Rome or to any other place from Affrica it is extant in the Affrican Councell and this it is Item placuit vt presby teri Diaconi vel caeteri inferiores Clerici causis quas habuerint si de iudicijs Episcoporum suorum questi fuerint vicini Episcopi eos audiant Moreouer it was thought good that Priests Deacons or other inferiour Clarkes if in their causes they complaine of the iudgements of their Bishops they shall bee iudged by the next adioyning Bishops c. And a little after Quod si ab ijs prouocandum putauerint non prouocent nisi ad Affricana Concilia vel ad primates Prouinciarum suarum Ad transmarina autem qui putauerit appellandum â nullointer Affricam in Communionem suscipiatur And if they appeale from them they shall not appeale but to the Affrican Councels or to the Primates of their Prouinces Whosoeuer appealeth to outlandish places shall be admitted to the Communion by none within Affrica This was not so much a new decree as the maintaining of that auncient decreed right which Cyprian doth mention testifying that it was decreed euen in his time by all the Bishops of Affrica Statutum est ab omnibus that the cause should bee there heard and examined where the fault was committed This Canon which was thus established in the Affrican Councell is for clearing of the truth and preuenting of these ambitious courses and claimes of Rome repeated and confirmed also in the Mileuitan Councell where Saint Augustine was also present For it must be obserued that the sixt Carthaginian the seuenth Carthaginian the Affrican and Meleuitan Councels were held all about this time by the same men so great was the care and diligence of the Fathers that by many Councels as it were by so many lights they might dispell the smoake of the darkenesse which they saw then rising out of the Church of Rome which smoake after those times quenched the light and couered the sight of the Church as a mist couereth the heauens 20 Thus did these worthy Fathers dispell this smoke for that time and reiect the yoake of the Popes Iurisdiction In all this businesse S. Augustine had an especiall hand and head And as long as he liued the Popes could neuer preuaile But the Bishops of Rome hauing thus once cast off all regard of truth and modesty were resolued to proceed on in this wretched course and neuer gaue ouer till at last they obtained their purpose There is an Epistle of Boniface the second written after these times extant in the Tomes of councels which whether it bee true or counterfait as much other stuffe is of this argument we are to obserue something out of it because it concerneth this question This Epistle is intituled De reconciliationae Carthaginensis Ecclesiae written to Eulalius Bishop of Alexandria he certifieth the Bishop of Alexandria of great ioy for as much as the Church of Carthage is now returned saith hee ad communionem nostram and receiueth all our mandates which by our Legates wee send them Hee signifieth that supplications must be made to GOD that other Churches may likewise be brought home to the same obedience That the Bishop of Alexandria must giue notice heereof to all the brethren about him that they cease not to giue thanks for such benefites of the heauenly fauour For saith he Aurelius praefatae Carthaginensis Ecclesiaeolim Episcopus cum collegis suis instigante diabolo superbire temporibus praedecessorum nostrorum Bonifacij atque Coelestini contra Romanam Ecclesiam coepit c. That is Aurelius once Bishop of Carthage began with his colleagues by the instigation of the diuell to wax proud against the Romane Church in the dayes of our predecessours Boniface and Coelestinus But Eulalius at this time Bishop of Carthage finding himselfe for the sins of Aurelius cut off from the coÌ„munion of the Church of Rome hath humbled himselfe and sought peace and the communion of the Church of Rome by his subscription and together with his colleagues hath by Apostolicall authority vtterly condemned all Scriptures and Writings which by any wit haue beene framed against the priuiledges of the Church of Rome 21 Whether this Epistle be forged or not it commeth all to one reckoning For if it be forged let the Bishop of Rome take the shame of the fórgery If it be the true writing of the Bish of Rome then he auoucheth that the holy worthy maÌ„ of God S. Augustine with Aurelius and the rest of his colleagues were stirred vp by the instigation of the diuell to withsâ—…and this Romane Iurisdiction We may the better beare the reproaches of the Romish Sinagogue when they sharpen their tongues and pennes against the seruants of GOD in our times seeing they laue done as much against the auncient godly Fathers For what can the late Popes say more against M. Luther Iohn Caluin or any other of the worthies of the reformed Churches then this Boniface the second saith against holy S. Augustine that he with the rest of his company were stirred and instigated by the diuell to stand against the Iurisdiction of the Romish Church Then when we denie their Iurisdiction wee denie it with the Fathers when wee are therefore condemned by the Pope and his Court we are condemned with the auncient Fathers with them we suffer with them we are reuiled and condemned The goodnesse of our cause the fellowship of the auncient Saints the warrant of the truth is able to support vs against the impotent malice and fury of these men that haue no other cause to be offended at vs then their Fathers had against S. Augustine and the rest of the auncient and holy Fathers who haue resisted the Romish Iurisdiction and therein haue left a worthy example to vs to follow their foot-steps Thus we see the Popes Iurisdiction was first attempted by forgery and afterward by falshood and tyrannie effected 22 Other Churches were afterward in time drawne to the obedience of this Iurisdiction The Churches of Rauenna Aquileia and Millane were long after this brought vnder the same yoake by Pope Stephen the third saith Sabellicus But Platina saith that Millaine was drawne to this obedience by Stephen the ninth If this be true then Millain stoode out till the yeare of Christ nine hundred and fourty And thus the quarrell for Iurisdiction was begun by Zozimus maintained by Boniface and Caelestinus but reiected by these Affrican Councels The cause was much helped by some that succeeded as Leo and
are able to vnrippe them §. I. Of the Forgeries whereby this Iurisdiction was first challenged 6. THe Popes and the Court of Rome perceiuing well how much it made for the aduancement to that Sea if they might be secured for the right and title to this Iurisdiction which they purposed to challenge and practise And vnderstanding that none would beleeue that they had any right to it vnlesse they shewed some antiquity for it finding also that they wanted Scriptures the testimonie of the ancient Church began a most desperate and vile practise to forge antiquities deuising certaine writings fathering the same vpon the ancient Bishops of Rome all was to make some shew and title to this Iurisdiction whereof they were so much inamoured In our dayes there is lesse feare of daunger from these forged Epistles because they haue bene throughly examined and refuted by many learned men as Maâ—…silius Patauinus Laurentius Valla Antonin Archiep. Florent Nicholaus Cusanus Aenaeas Siluius Hieronymus Paulus Catalanus Raphaell Volateranus all before Master Luther In so much as the learned Papists are ashamed of this stuffe and cannot denie the Forgery but when first they were deuised whether by Anastatius Bibliothecarius as some iudge or by some other trusty Champion of the Court of Rome they carried the world then into such an illusion that we may well iudge it proceeded from the deepenesse of Satan in subtiltie and falshood and was receiued with wonderfull simplicitie and ignorance of that age For when the fatall time was come that Antichrist must send vp that smoak wherwithall the truth was darkened then fell such a iudgement vppon the world that together with the darkening of Scriptures learning knowledge and iudgement was decayed and they did with greedinesse beleeue lies and forgeries who could not examine the truth Then began they to publish new decretall Epistles vnder the names of Clemens Anaclet Euaristus Sixtus Telesphorus Higinus Pius Anicetus Soter Eleutherius Victor and many others In whose names certaine Epistles are framed to claime this Iurisdiction but so absurd the stile so vnfitted to the ages wherin these Bishops liued that the learned Papists themselues blush at the forgerie The argument of all these Epistles is in a manner one and the same all plead for Iurisdiction and if this question might be determined by these testimonies then should they obtaine their Iurisdiction without controuersie The things which are most of all handled and repeated therein are the Primacie of the Pope the power and authoritie of the Church of Rome exemption of Clarkes and appellation to the Sea Apostolicke these are the things handled and repeated ouer and ouer The proofe for all is fet from Tues Petrus super hanc petram c. And pasâ—…e oues meas and oraui pro te Petre and such like deprauations of holy Scriptures 7. Heere is the true ground of their Iurisdiction thus they got it by forgeries and these forgeries in that age such was the ignorance thereof were nothing suspected other men who detested such vile practises measured the mindes of Popes in charitie by their owne who would euer haue thought so basely of Popes that they would haue entred into such diâ—…onest practises Therefore this Iurisdiction was by many receiued because they suspected no falshood in such as should haue beene examples of vertue and godlinesse But when the knowledge of good learning was raised againe then began these Epistles to be examined and were found such as they are Bellarmine speaking of these Epistles though glad he would be to maintain them if he knew how yet dares not denie them to be forged Nec indubitatas esse affirmare audeam saith he But if you dare not auouch them to be vnforged why then dare you auouch that Iurisdiction of the Pope of which the world neuer tooke knowledge before these Epistles had deuised proofes for it And why dare you make vse of such forgeries For Bellarmiâ—…e confessing that he dare not iustifie them from suspition of forgerie yet laboureth to take vse of them as pretending that they are auncient as though antiquitie in falshood could helpe Or as if a robber and murtherer being taken in the manner and not able to iustifie his action should plead that Barrabas was an auncient robber and murtherer and thinke to helpe himselfe by that plea. And because vpon this rotten foundation the Popes Iurisdiction is builded let vs obserue some of the best and most substantiall proofes for Iurisdiction out of these forged Epistles 8. Anaclet is made to say thus for the priuiledges of the Church such priuiledges as exemption of Clarks and such like as were introduced after the yere one thousand Priuilegia Ecclesiarum sacerdotum sancti Aposteli iussu saluatoris intemerata inuiolata omnibus decreuerunt manere temporibus That is The priuiledges of Churches and of Priests the holy Apostles decreed that they should remaine inuiolated for all times For Iurisdiction he saith Quodsi difficiliores ortae fuerint questiones aut Episcoporum vel maiorum iudicia aut maiores causae fuerint ad Apostolicam sedem si appellatum fuerit referantur quontam Apostoli hoc statuerunt iussu saluatoris vt maiores difficiliores questiones semper ad sedem deferantur Apostolicam super quam Christus vniuersam construxit Ecclesiam dicente ipso Petro tu es Petrus super hanc Petram aedificabo Ecilesiam meam And againe Summi sacerdotes id est Episcopi à Deo sunt iudicandi nonâ—… ab humanis aut prauae vitae hominibus lacerandi sed potius ab omnibus fidelibus portandi This is often repeated that scandalous Clarkes must not be accused yea though one of them should liue most inordinately Licet sit inordinatus quia pro merit is subditorum disponitur à Deo vita rectorum For proofe these Scriptures are brought qui vos tangit tangit pupillam oculi mei nolite tangere Christos meos in prophetis meis nolite malignari From this deepe Diuinity Thomas Becket resisted Henrie the second and would not suffer the King to execute iustice against robbers fellons murtherers practisers of Treason if they were Clargie men he defended them by these Scriptures as we shall declare hereafter This witch-craft came from Rome and from these forged Epistles Anaclet saith again Haec sacra sancta Romana Apostolica Ecclesia non ab Apostolis sed ab ipso domino saluatore nostro primatum obtinuit eminentiam potestatis super vniuerâ—…as Ecclesias and to proue all this is alleadged Tues Petrus c. Another saith Si quis vestrum pulsatus fuerit in aliqua aduersitate licenter hanc sanctam Apostolicam appellet sedem ad eam quasi ad caput suffugium habeat And another Iudicia Episcoporum maioresque Ecclesiae causae a sede Apostolica non ab alia sicut Apostoli sancti successores eorum statuerunt cum
against the greater part The King of England by publicke writing protested against it when first it was appointed by the Pope to be held at Mantua the reasons which King Henry alleaged against it are these That it belonged not to the Pope to cal Councels but to the Emperor to the Kings of Christendom that the Pope himselfe was to be censured by the Councell and therefore Italy was no fit place for it that there was no caution made to him and his Embassadours and Bishops for their safe conduct that though there were publike caution giuen yet the practice of Popes in breaking their faith and violating publike cautions and sucking the blood of innocent men was too well knowen In fine the King giueth aduise to all other Princes and Magistrates to gouerne their owne people to establish true religion to reiect the Popes tyrannie as hee had done 16. The French King made like Protestation against this Councell of Trent for the Abbot of Bellosan the French Kings Embassadour obtaining admittance into the Councell though not without great difficultie in the middest of that assembly against the expectation of many deliuered the Kings protestation thus That it was neither safe nor fit for him to send his Bishops to Trent that he held not that assembly for a publike and generall Councell but rather for a priuate conuenticle gathered not for the common good but for the pleasure and profite of some few that neither he himselfe nor any of his kingdome should be bound by those decrees and if need required that he would vse such remedie to restraine the Popes as his Auncestours had vsed before Thus did these Kings then protest against that Councell especially because it was called by the Popes authoritie who had no right to call generall Councels And both these kingdomes and the Churches therâ—…in haue withstood the authoritie of this Councell yea the French Church of Papists would neuer admit the Councell of Trent so that it is not onely dissallowed of vs but by a number of them who professing to follow the auncient Church of Rome yet vtterly reiect this Councell of Trent as swaruing from the Church of Rome Of the Princes of Germanie there is no doubt made but that they would neuer yeelde consent to it Then generall it cannot be when as so many and so great a part haue withstood it yea a farre greater part then they can make who held it 17. And whereas in all ancient generall Councels the freedome and libertie of Bishops and of all that had voices in Councels was nâ—…uer impeached in this Councell of Trent it was quite otherwise for none might be admitted to haue voice therein but only such as should be bound in an oath of bondage and slauerie to the Pope And therefore when the Embassadours of Maurice Duke of Saxony came to the Councell and proposed from their Master these petitions That the forme of safe conduct might be made for his Diuines according to the forme which the councell of Basill graunted to the Bohemians that is to say that these particulars might be expressed therein that they also with other might haue deciding power that in euery controuersie the holy Scriptures the practise of the auncient Church the ancient Councels and Fathers agreeing with Scriptures and founding them vpon Scriptures might be admitted and receiued for the most true and indifferent iudge for thus much was contained in the safe conduct graunted by the Councell of Basill to the Bohemians that there might bee no proceeding till his Diuines came that when they were come all things precedent might be recalled that the Councell might be free for all nations that the Bishop of Rome might submit himselfe to the Councell and remit that oath which he had taken of the Bishops which were of the Councell that their voyces might be free and without such euident partiality and preiudice as they brought with them who were bound by oath to doe nothing against the pleasure of the Pope these petitions were reiected freedome vtterly excluded partiality and preiudice maintained with resolution 18. And that the same Councell of Trent was not a lawfull assembly it is no lesse euident because it was not called by lawfull authoritie for it was called onely by the Popes authoritie who neuer had authoritie to call generall Councels And though Charles the fift then Emperour was at the first drewen to yeeld a consent yet the Pope would neuer allow that the Emperour should haue the authoritie to call the Councell and to appoint the place as alwayes it was the Emperours Iurisdiction in auncient Councels but this Iurisdiction the Pope by vsurpation drew to himselfe in the Councell of Trent Insomuch that when the Emperour vtterly dissallowing the translation of the same Councell to Bononia wrote to them and sent his Embassadour Vargas to protest against them that he would hold all as vaine friuilous and vnlawfull whatsoeuer they did tearming them not a Councell but a Conuenticle Montanus the Popes Legat answered that it should neuer be indured that the Ciuill Magistrate should haue authority to call Councels or to appoint the place thereof To this purpose the Pope also writeth to Charles that the Emperour hath no right herein but the Pope himselfe is the man Qui solus iure diuino humano cogendi 〈◊〉 decernendi de rebuâ—… sacris potestatem obtineat This authoritie then being vtterly denied to the Emperour for calling the Councell of Trent we say that Councell was an vnlawfull assembly because it was not gathered by the authority of the Emperour and of Christian Kings And when it was thus gathered neither a generall Councell nor a free nor a lawfull Councell yet as it was with all these foule faults it could not serue the Popes turne vnlesse singular fraud and deceit had bene practised Olaus Magnus was intituled Archbishop of Vpsala and blinde Sir Robert a Scottishman was intituled Archbishop of Armach in Ireland so that for want of true Bishops some were set vp onely in name to fill vp the number and giue voices 19. And when all other shifts would not serue the Pope still reserued one for the last cast The greatest part of them that were present had a purpose to curb the Popes Iurisdiction especially the Spanish Bishops who saith Sleidan were most diligent in this Councell These combined with those few Germane Bishops which were there resolued saith he Pontificis Romani potestatemintra certos fines includere nec illius aulae tantum facultatis in omnes prouincias attribuere That is To reduce the Popes authority within some bounds and not to yeeld such power to that Court ouer all Prouinces The Pope fearing such a thing afore prouided that the greatest part of Bishops should be Italians none might be admitted of any other Nation but such as were made obnoxious to the Pope aswell by some other respects as by an oath If any were
enacted by Emperours to be a law that all of the Clergie that offended might know their punishment for that Constantine by whose authority the sixt Synode at Constantinople was held in a Decree inserted in that Councell saith Si quidem Episcopusest vel Clericus vel monachico circundatus habitu deportationis paenam exsoluet Carâ—…omannus in a French Synode decreeth imprisonment Si ordinat us presbyter fuerit duos annos in carcere permaneat These punishments were inflicted vpon such Clerkes as would not be ordered by Ecclesiasticall censures of their Bishoppes for so Guntranus doth testifie a French King by whose authority the Councel of Matiscan was held Quicunque Sacerdctum saith he in a Writ added to that councell aut saecularium in intentione mortifera perdurantes crebrius admoniti si se emendare neglexerint c. alios canonica seueritas corrigat alios ligatâ—…s paena percellat And a little after he saith Conuenit vt iustitâ—…ae â—…quitatis in omnibus vigore seruato distringat legalis vltio iudicum quos non corrigit canonica praedicatio Sacer dotum 70. Then the ancient practise was that the temporall Magistrate should punish such as offended of the Clergy as well as of the Laity Concerning the antiquity of this exemption of Clerkes from temporall Courts wee finde no president for it all the while that the Emperours had any gouernement and commaund in Italy But when the Pope was able to meet the Emperour in battell and giue him the worse then began the authority of the ciuill Magistrate to decay in Rome and fell at the last into contempt And the Pope hauing cast off the yoak of obedience which before he held to the Emperour as to his Soueraigne began to take an authority to himself which neither God nor man had giuen him Hence proceeded that vsurpation of power to giue Lawes to other Pope Nicholas the first in the eight hundred and threescore yeare of Christ writeth in his Epistle to the Emperour Michael in another stile then his predecessours had vsed to write to Emperours before Among other things contained in th Epistle whereas the Emperour had written for a Clarke that had offended him and was fled to the Pope whom the Emperour required to be sent back again to Constantinople Pope Nicholas to this maketh this answere Wee haue from the great power of Peter and Paul right and power to call Clerkes from any other Diocesse if wee thinke good and to inuite them to vs. This is our right but Christian Emperours haue no right at all to make any inquisition for Monks vnlesse it be in fauour to pity them 71. Here we obserue the difference betweene the spirits of Popes in this time and the spirits of auncient Popes who held the doctrine of obedience as the Fathers then did drawing the doctrine from the Scripture and examples of Christ and his Apostles Christ when he was vniustly condemned exempted not himselfe from the punishment of the ciuill Magistrate and yet he wanted no power to haue done so if hee would These late Romane counterfait Catholiques when by their rebellious doctrine and bloudy practises they haue iustly 〈◊〉 the Magistrate against them yet forsooth will denie him authority to punish them Saint Paul teacheth Let euery soule be subiect to the higher powers S. Peter teacheth the same doctrine Submit your selues to all manner ordinance of man The Fathers receiued this doctrine from the Scriptures and preserued it faithfully in the Church Chrysostome and after him Oecumenius expounding that place of ' Paul say thus Omnem animam instruens siue Sacerdos sit quispiam siue monachus siue Apostolus vt Magistratibus subdatur nam haec subiectio non euertit pietâ—…tem A learned man of late which also was Pope speaking of these words Omnis anima subdita sic c. saith Nec animam Papaeexcipit So doth God sometimes draw testimonies for the truth out of the mouthes of them that oppugne it The auncients helde this truth vp in great sincerity Gregory Nazianzen saith Homines cuncti c. All men are ordered in subiection vnder the higher powers Hee that saith all men includeth the Pope and his Clarkes Augustine saith Generale pactum est societatis humanae obedire gregibus suis. Leo the first saith Ad imperialem pertinet potestatem vâ—… perturbatores Ecclesiae pacis reipub quae Christianis principibus merito gloriatur inimici sollicitius comprimantur These troublers of the peace of the Church and state of whom he speaketh were Clergy men For in that Epistle Leo writeth against certaine of the Clergy who embraced the errour of Eutyches Then in the time of Pope Leo this was not the doctrine of the Church of Rome which now these Romane Libertines haue brought in Gregory the first writeth to the same purpose Potestas super omnes homines dominorum meorum pietaticaelitus data est vt qui bona appetâ—…nt adiâ—…uentur vt caelorum via largius pateat vt terrestre Regnum coelesti Regnofamuletur In the same Epistle he induceth Christ thus speaking to the Emperour Sacerdotes meos tuae manui commisi Then Gregory knew no other doctrine but that Priests were subiect by Christ subiected to the Magistrate And whereas the Emperour commanded a law to be executed which Gregory misliked hee writeth thus to the Emperor Ego quideÌ„ iussioni tuae subiectus eandem legem per diuersas terrarum partes transmitti feci That is I being subiect to your coÌ„mand haue caused that law to be sent to diuers Prouinces but because the law consenteth not with the law of Almighty God behold I haue signified the same by my letters to your most excellent Lordship so that on both parts I haue payed what I ought for I haue yeelded obedience to the Emperor haue not coÌ„cealed what I thought for God Then Gregory knew no exemption he accounteth himselfe among them that owe subiection and obedience to Emperors 72. Concerning the punishment of Heretiques Schismatiques that were criminous there was no other means knowne in S. Augustines time then the coactiue power of the ciuil Magistrate For thus he saith Si nec hoc volunt Donatistae c. If the Donatists will not grant this power to the Emperour why doe they acknowledge the force of the Lawes to be iustly executed against other malefactors and deny the same to be done against hereticks and Schismaticks seeing by the Apostolicall authority they are all alike numbred with the same fruits of iniquity Must not these humane ordinaÌ„ces regard such things Why then doth he beare the sword c. Thus saith Augustine And in the same place he declareth that there is one law imperial general against all that professe theÌ„selues Christians but are not true Catholicks but keep priuate conuenticles that either he that ordaineth such a Clerke or the Clerke so ordained should loose
〈◊〉 legâ—… aliqâ—… obligarentur 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is aut institutis Ecclesia vel 〈◊〉 Râ—…manorum plusquam â—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…e 〈◊〉 rationabili 〈◊〉 qua fideles in vnitate amplius seruabantur eo quod tune fideli 〈◊〉 legislatore ipsos in ordine reducente 〈◊〉 in vâ—…itate seruante c. That is Albeit about the beginning of the Church other Bishops and Churches of beleeuers were not bound by any diuine or humane law to obey the mandates of the Church or Bishop of Rome rather then the contrary yet this profitable and reasonable custome preuailing by which beleeuers were better kept in vnitie because they wanted then a Christian Magistrate to reduce them to order and preferue them in vnitie therefore they were afterward bound as by a diuine law to this obedience in things honest and lawfull 11. But because the Popes and their flatterers did couer all their practiseâ—… with plâ—…nitudo 〈◊〉 as with a mist therfore he doth with great light of learning and truth dispell that mist This saith hâ—… is Loâ—…us 〈◊〉 â—…nde etiaÌ„ paralâ—…gismus quâ—… reges principantes â—…o singâ—…los coactiua 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 subiectos 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 trâ—…xit origineâ—… That is This is a Sophisme whence that Paralogisme drew his beginning by which they striue to draw Kings and Princes and all other vnder their subiection by coactiue Iurisdiction And therfore iâ—… he belaboreth exâ—…ctly and at full to open this fallacion of fulnesse of power the suâ—…e whereof is this By a pretended fulneâ—…e of power the Pope wiâ—…hout ground or reason onely led thereto by pride and ambition intruded vpon the right of Iesus Christ and vpon the right of the Church and vpon the right of Temporall Princes wresting all authority to himselfe this he calleth fulnes of power â—…or iâ—…by fulnes of power be vnderstood tâ—…at power wherby all men and all creatures are commanded and directed to what end the commauâ—…der will this power is giuen onely to Iesus Christ and to no other man according to that Scripture all power is giueâ—… vnto me in heauen and in â—…arth But if by fulnesse of power be vnderstood power to preach to excommunicate to binde to loose to interpret Scripture to determine controuersies this power is in the Church partly in Bishops partly in doctors partly in Councels and not more in the Pope then in another Bishop Last of all if by this fulnesse of power be vnderstood Soueraigne Iurisdiction coactiue then it is in Temporall Princes Marsiliuâ—… maketh moe parts hereof bâ—…t I draw him summarily and presume that to these three heads all that he saith may be reduced 12. And therefore whereas the Pope claimeth such â—… power intruding vpon the right of each of these he saith Ex vnâ—… 〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉 â—…ransiuit Romanâ—…s 〈◊〉 Thâ—…t is The Pope hath from one presumption passed into another The same Author declareth how the Popes proceeded in these their incroachings vpon Iurisdiction First saith he they made some constitutions to gouerne the Clergie then they proceeded by way of exhortâ—…tion intreaty to perswade the laitie to keepe fastes to abstaine from meats When they saw that laymen did willingly receiue suâ—…h obseruations theÌ„ they proceeded to ordaine the same things as laws to denounce excoÌ„municatioÌ„ against the transgrâ—…ssours thereof And all this was done saith he Suâ—… 〈◊〉 diuinâ—… culâ—…us speciâ—… That is Vnder a shewe of godlinâ—…sse and the worship of God The same Author addeâ—…h Cresâ—…ente autem 〈◊〉 ipsis appâ—… 〈◊〉 ampliâ—… domiâ—…di attendentibâ—…s deuotoâ—… fideliâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ignauiaâ—… diuinâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 qui ad â—…a 〈◊〉 sacerdoteâ—… indicebantur obligari credebanâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 aeternâ—… praesumpseruâ—…t 〈◊〉 Episcopâ—… Romaâ—…i cum suo clericoruâ—… coetu â—…ligarchica quaedam edicta 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 actus 〈◊〉 c. That is But as the appetite of ruling farther continually increased in them when they sawe that deâ—…ote Christians were kept in feare with such proceedings through slothfulnesse and ignorance of Gods worship which Christians ignorant thought themselues bound vnder the paine of eternall damnation to all that was inioyned them of the Priests then the Bishops of Rome with their Clergie presuming further made certaine Oligarchicall Edicts concerning ciuill actions Thus saith hee the Bishoppe of Rome began first to practise expemptions And that hee might draw a number of the Laiety into the loue of those practises he extended these exemptions to diuers companies of Lay persons and so defrauded the Magistrate of due honour and obedience and brought in that confusion whereof the same Authour complaineth thus Hâ—…c est pestilentiae Italici regniradix origo ex qua cuncta scandala germinauerunt prodeunt c. Qua stante nunquamciuiles ibidem cessaâ—… discordiae pâ—…testatem enim hanc ad quam paulatim latenti prâ—…aricatione subintrauit ex consuetudine aut abusione verius dudum detinuit Rom. Episcopus eandem sibi per principem reuocari formidans merito propter commissos excessus creationeâ—… atque 〈◊〉 Rom. Principis omni maligna sollicitudiâ—… vitat That is This is the roote and fountaine of the pestilence which troubleth the Empire from whence all scandals growe and proceede and which standing ciuill discords shall neuer cease in Italy for the Pope fearing that this power may be reuoked by the Emperor and that deseruedly for the excesse committed therein into which power he hath by little and little stolne by secret preuarication of custome or to say more truely of abuse hauing holden it some while he hindreth the creation and promotion of the Emperor by all malice and spite Wherupon saith he some Popes haue broken out into such impudency as in their Decretals is to be seene that they aâ—…ouch that the Emperor is bound to them in an Oath of Alleageance as if the Emperour were vnder them subiected by coactiue Iurisdiction 13. Then Marsiliuâ—… hath discouered the reason why the Popes haue so much opposed themselues against the Emperors to be because they were affraid least the Emperours should call them to a reckoning for their Exemptions for the abuse of their excommunications for intruding themselues into the office of the ciuill Magistrate and taking a newe authority vpon themselues from themselues without warrant of the Emperour This is that thing which caused them to stirre so much against Emperours and at last to procure the decay of the Empire so much as at this day they haue made it so weake that now they are out of the feare thereof Other things for breuities sake I omit this is sufficient to vnderstand what reason learned men had then to withstand the Popes Iurisdiction This booke of Marsilius was neuer answered and hereafter is not like to be But Iohn the two and twentieth against whom this booke was intended did in stead of aunswering condemne this worthy Writer which thing was much more easie for him to doe §. II. William Occham and Michael Cezena 14. BVT the truth could not be suppâ—…ssed
thus For other learned men deuoted to the seruice of the truth entred into a further search of this Iurisdiction among whom Michael Cezena and William Occham were famous The occasion whicâ—… stirred them vp to make search of this point was this Michael Cezena Generall of the Order of the Minorites refuted three Constitutions of Pope Iohn the two and twentieth Ad conditorem Canonum Cum inter Quia quorundam These hee refuted and sent his bookes abroad against these Constitutions whereupon Iohn the two and twentieth depriued him and disabled him from taking any other dignity But Michael appealed from the Pope 15. Here arose the question whether a Christian might appeale from the Pope William Occham once a worthy fellow of Merton Colledg in Oxford vndertooke this question disputeth it throughly in that booke which he intitleth Opus nonaginta dierum He concludeth that a man may and might appeale from the Pope and that a Councell is aboue the Pope And saith that many moe learned men wrote diuers bookes at that time for confirmation of the same truth wherein they alleadge strong reasons to proue their purpose and answere all doubts De ista materia saith he plures libri prolixi sunt editi in quibus praedicti 〈◊〉 motiua adducunt quam plurima obiectiones refellunt quae possunt oriri dubia declarare nituntur That is Of this matter many long bookes set forth wherein these foresaid Disputers alledge many reasons refute obiections and seeke to cleare all doubts that can rise Of the Pope he saith thus Iohâ—…es 22. coâ—…scius 〈◊〉 suorâ—… ad iudiciâ—… generalis concilij veâ—…ire recusat That is Pope Iohn the two and twentieth his owne consciâ—…nce accusing himselfe of his errours refuseth to come to the iudgement of a Geâ—…erall Councel Thus the Pope hath euer bin affraid of a General Councell since the time that first he vsurped Iurisdiction The same Author confuteth the Constitutions of Iohâ—… the two and twentieth first by Scriptures then by Canons of Councels and testimonies of holy Fathers and last of al by the determination of the Church of Rome And for this question of Iurisdiction because the Popes then began to chalenge tempâ—…rall Iurisdiction ouer Princes his assertion is â—…eatus â—…etrus non fuit vicarius Christi quantum ad officium regâ—…i temporalis nec in â—…omporalibus qusbâ—…e That is S. Peter was not Christs Vicar in respect of a temporall Kingdome nor in respect of any tempoâ—…alities whatsoeuer Which Assertion he proueth thus If it were so that S. â—…eter were Christs Vicar in temporall Dominion then should S. Peter haue Iurisdiction ouer Emperours and Kings but this the Popes themselues denie for Pope Nicholas saith thus Quuâ—… ad verâ—… veâ—…tum est nec Imperator iura sibi Pontificatâ—…s c. That is When we come to know the truth neither hath the Emperour taken vpon him the right of the Pope nor the Pope vsurped the title of the Emperour for one Mediator of God and man Iesus Christ hath distinguished the Offices of both these powers by their proper actions and distinct dignities Ex hiâ—… saith Occhaâ—… datur 〈◊〉 quod Rom. Pontifex ex successione Petri non habet Iurisdictionem temporalem super 〈◊〉 That is Hence we may vnderstand that the Pope by succeeding Petâ—…r hath no temporall Iurisdiction ouer the Emperour 16. Against this determination he moueth some obiectious or rather taketh the â—…easons of 〈◊〉 Triumphus and maketh them his obiections though he suppresse the name of 〈◊〉 The obiectious are these First The Pope deposeth Kings 15. qu. 6. cap. aliâ—… Secondly The Pope trauslated the Empire Extra de Elect. cap. venerabilem Thirdly The Emperor taketh an Oath of Alleageance These are the reasons of Augustiâ—… Triumphus whereunto he aunswereth thus To the first he saith Rationâ—… eriminis habet spiritualâ—…m Iurisdictionem non temporalem That is In respect of some fault hee hath spirituall Iurisdiction but not temporall Then all the Iurisdiction which the Pope or any other Bishoppe hath is onely spirituall in his opinion in respect of sinne which may be censured by spirituall censures But a power to depose Kings includeth temporall Iurisdiction To the second he saith The Pope translated the Empire Non in qâ—…antum successor Petri sed authoritate Romanorum qui sibi potestatem huinsmodi concesserant That is Not as the successour of Peter but by the authority of the Romanes who graunted him that power To the third he saith the Emperour that first tooke an Oath of Alleageance did it from deuotion and humility and therefore afterward refused it Marfilius answereth to this last obiection somewhat otherwise for he vtterly reiecteth the testimony of that Canon that witnesseth that the Emperour tooke an Oath of Alleageance Intaâ—…tum vero ipsorum quidam prorupit aâ—…daciam saith Marsil vt in suis edectis expresserit Romanum Principem sibi iurameâ—…o fidelitatis ástringitanquam coactiâ—…a Iâ—…risdictione subiectum vt ex suarum narrationum quas decretales appellant derisibili contemptâ—… prorsus inuolucro septimo de Sent re iâ—…dicata palam se inspicientibus offert That is One of them to wit Clement the fift hath broken out in such impudency in his Edicts that he affirmeth the Emperor is bound to him by an Oath of Alleageance as subiect to him in coactiue Iurisdiction as is openly to bee seene in 2. de Sent. re â—…udic out of that ridiculous and most contemptible collection of their Narrations which they call Decretals 17. But to returne to William Occham and Michael Cezena in whose cause Occhaâ—… was ingaged Michael was deposed by Iohn the two and twentieth in Iune in the yeare of Christ one thousand three hundred twentie and eight in his behalfe letters were directed to the Chapter of the Minorites assembled in Parpinian and Auinion in the yeare one thousand three hundred thirty and one These letters were subscribed by Henricus de Chalchem Franâ—…iscus de Esculo and Guilielmus de Occham not onely these men fauoured his cause but those two famous Vniuersities Oxford and Paris did approue the same Whereuppon Michael being arrested by the Pope did appeale from the Pope Consider the nature of his appeale for it openeth the sense and iudgement of learned men then liuing being approued by the greatest learned men then liuing and by all the learned men of that order in England and in Paris for so it is said there Quae determinatio fuit etiam ab omnibâ—…s Magistris baccalarijs in sacra pagina de Parisijs de Aâ—…glia dicti ordinis approbata Vâ—…iuersis Christi fidelibus destinata That is Which determination was also approued of all the Masters and Bachelours in Diuinity of the said order of Paris and England and directed to all Christians I will set downe the forme of his appeale as in the same place I finde it expressed and thus it is Habito prius
dependance of the Pope which opinion Antoninuâ—… reprooueth for an error But Occhaâ—… hath confirmed this which 〈◊〉 tooke to be an error 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 secunduâ—… ipsum Antoninum magiâ—… dâ—…ffuse prosecutus est Occham ordiâ—…is 〈◊〉 quasi ad 〈◊〉 deducens 〈◊〉 Papae 〈◊〉 in teâ—…orali dominâ—… quamobreâ—… multi verâ—… doctissimâ—… 〈◊〉 questiones disputabanâ—… de potestatâ—… 〈◊〉 That is Which error as Antoninus taketh it Occhaâ—… a Minorite hath most largely handled reducing the power of the Pope and of Prelates concerning Temporall dominion as it were to nothing Wherefore many men of greatest learning did then dispute of Iurisdiction Eccleâ—…iasticall 23. By all which we see the Popes Iurisdiction ouerthrown by men of the greatest learning euen then when hee thought himselfe strongest for this part of his pretended Iurisdiction which toucheth the deposing of Princes was neuer better handled then at this time in the middes of the Popes kingdome by these men And shall it be thought strange in vs now to maintaine the same truth which then these worthy men durst maintaine Or shall it not be imputed either as damnable ignorance in vs not to know or as extreame weakenesse and want of courage not to professe and maintaine as much now against the Pope as these worthy men did then More we cannot say then they haue said in this point of Iurisdiction For they haue prooued by inuincible reasons that in temâ—…oralibus in temporalties thâ—… Pope hath no Iurisdiction ouer Princes that in â—…piritâ—…libus in spiritualties the Pope is â—…ubiect to the censure of â—… genâ—…rall Councell This is the truth which euer hath beene maintained against the Pope more then this wee seeke not §. III. Robert Grosthead and Iohn Wiclife 24. AFter Williâ—… 〈◊〉 let vs come to that famous Biâ—…hop of Lincolne Robert 〈◊〉 It is to bee lamented that more of his writings were not preserued by so much as we haue extant it appearâ—…th that with great courage learning integritie he withstood the Popes pretended IurisdictioÌ„ for his leaâ—…ing 〈◊〉 calleth him the true great â—…lark The contention which â—…xercised him most was about the Popes pâ—…ouisions for the Pope would by his prouisions and this was also a part of his Iurisdiction proceeding out of the pretended fulnesse of power place straungers commonly some of his owne bastardes vnder the name of his Nephewes and of these sometimes young children Thus in the best and greatest Ecclesiasticall charges and benefices as they became void he thrust in such as had neither learning nor honestie will or skill to dischâ—…rge the duâ—…tie which that place required by preaching This being of it selfe a thing hatefull and abhominable Grosthâ—…d conceiuing of the thing â—…s it was in truth resolued in his Diocesse to admit no such vâ—…gratious practise Aâ—…d therâ—…ore when the Pope had written to him in this sort for one of his Nephews 〈◊〉 withstood the Pope and would not place him And hereupon he wrote to the Pope the letter is extant in Mat. Paris out of which I will reheâ—…rse some things that the excellent spirit of thâ—…t man may be the better obserued and his zeale against the intollerable practise of the Popes Iurisdiction For these prouisions were then defended by flatterers as proceeding from the fulnesse of power the fountaine as they called it of all Iurisdiction against which Grosthead disputeth thus 25. Apostolica mandata non sunt necesse possunt alia quam Apostolorum doctrina ipsius Domini nostri Iesu Christi Apostolorum magistri ac Domini That is The Apostolicall mandates are no other neither may they be any other then the doctrines of the Apostles and of our Lord Iesus Christ master and Lord of the Apostles By this rule which Grosthead prescribeth to the Pope we are ready to receiue any mandate from him And the things which we reiect we reiect vpon no other ground then as this worthy Bishop did because they are not consonant to the Apostolicall doctrines And whereas the Pope had written to him for a prouision to be sped in his Diocesse hee proceedeth thus Ipse Doâ—…inus noster Iesus Christus ait qui non est mecum contra me est contra ipsum autem non est nec esse potest Apostolicae sedis sanctitas diuinissima non est igitur praedictae literae tenor Apostolicae sanctitati consonuâ—… sed absonum plurimum discors Primo quia de illius literae ei consimilium superacucmulato non obstante nec ex legis naturalis obseruandae necessitate inducto patet cataclysmus inconstanciae audaciae inâ—…erecundiae mentiendi fallendi c. Praeterea post peccatum Luciferi quod idem erit in fine temporum ipsius filij perditioâ—…is Antichristi quem interficiet Dominus spiritâ—… oris sui nec est nec esse potest alterum genus peccatâ—… tam aduersum contrarium Apostolorum doctrinae Euangelicae ipsi Domino Iesu Christo tam odibile tam abominabile quam aniâ—…as curae pastoralis officij ministerij defraudatione mortificare perdere That is Our Lord Iesus Christ himselfe saith hee that is not with me is against me now against him the most diuine holinesse of the Apostolicke sea is not nor cannot bee therefore the tenor of the foresaid letter is not consonant to the Apostolicall holinesse but dissonant and altogether repugnant First because the way is opened to an inundation of inconstancy presumption shamelesnesse lying cousening c. By reason of the non obstante in that and such like letters often heaped vp not proceeding from any necessitie of the obseruation of the naturall law Moreouer after the sinne of Lucifer which also shall be the sinne of Antichrist the sonne of perdition in the end of the world whom the Lord shall kill with the spirit of his mouth there is not nor can be any other kind of sinne so repugnant contrary to the Apostolical Euangelical doctrin to our Lord Iesus Christ so odious and so abominable as this sinne is to kill and destroy the soules of men by defrauding them of the care of the pastorall office and ministery 26. The beginnings of M. Luther with Pope Leo the tenth were much more mild then this but he proceedeth and condemneth this sinne and the Popes letters by Scriptures declaring that they bring in such confusion into the Church which could be practised by none but sueh as are vnder the same condemnation with Lucifer and Antichrist Peâ—…ores sunt Lucifero saith he Antichristo proximâ—…ores in hac 〈◊〉 gradatim quanto magis superexâ—…ellentes qui ex maiori diuâ—…nori poâ—…estate sibâ—… diuinitus in aedificaâ—…mem non in destructionem tradita magis tenentur ab Ecclesia deâ—… tales interemptores pessimos excludere extirpare That is They are worse then Lucifer and next to Antichrist and in this badnesse they rise in a greater degree of euill so much the more by how much they are more excellent who from
liued 30. But was not Bishoppe Grosthead of the same faith and Religion with the Church of Rome Yes verily and so will I be if you grant me his conditions exceptions for he putteth two clauses very memorable by which he will condition with the Church of Rome or any other particular Church whatsoeuer First That the doctrines of that Church be the doctrines of Christ and his Apostles Secondly That so wee may regard the Church of Rome that wee be sure to hold vnity with the true Church the body of Christ. These excellent and famous men that haue heretofore liued in the vnity of the Church of Rome haue beene willing wee confesse to yeelde so much to the Pope and that particular Church as they might doe holding vnity with the true body of Christ. But if the vnity with the Romane Church doe draw them away from the vnity with Christs body then haue they alwaies beene resolued to giue ouer the vnity with that particular Church This confirmeth that which before I obserued in the Distinction betweene the Church of Rome and the Court of Rome because we see many learned and worthy men of our forefathers were of the Church of Rome that is held the bond of vnity with it who were professed enemies to the Court of Rome Now the Pope and his flatterers haue forsaken that vnity with the Church of Rome which stood in Apostolicall doctrines and vnity with the true body of Christ howsoeuer they boast of the name and haue nothing now to shew for themselues but the pride and faction of the Court of Rome 31. Now come we to the time wherein liued Iohn Wiclif another of the worthies of Merton Colledge in Oxford his aduersaries would blot him with the name of an Hereticke some things are vntrue wherewith they iniuriously charge him some things are true which they vniustly call Heresie In this question of Iurisdiction as he receiued the truth from Occham his Senior in Merton Colledge so he deliuered the same faithfully Speaking of the Kings Iurisdiction as well ouer the Clergie as Laity he saith The chiefe Lordshippe in this land of all temporalties both of secular men and religious pertaine to the King of his generall Gouernement for else hee were not King of all England but of a little part thereof Therefore the men that busien them to take away this Lordshippe from the King as don Friars and their sautors in this point beene snarper enemies and Traytors then Frenchmen and all other nations Wiclif labored worthily to descry refute the errors concerning Iurisdiction that in his time came creeping in introduced by Friars For he witnesseth that the Friars taught thus Rex Angliae non est rex totius Angliae sed regulus paruae partis super residiâ—…um vero mortificatum est Papa Dominus Veruntamen non est disp utandum inquiunt de hac materia quousque fuerit in effectu potentius stabilita sed tolerandae sunt iniuriae dominorum saeculâ—…rium quousque arriserit opportunit as temporis That is The King of England is not King of all England but Lord of a little part ouer the residue in a dead hand the Pope is Lord but say they there is no disputing of this matter vntill it be powerfully brought in effect In the meane time they say the iniuries of temporall Lords must be borne vntill an opportunity fauo ur them This is plaine dealing The Friars declare what is that thing at which they haue long aimed For what other meaning haue their pretended exemptions then by making a reuolt from the obedience of their soueraigns to become wholly the Popes seruants and creatures 32. But this late generation of Friars I meane the Iesuites exceeding these olde Friars in admirable practises in the blood and destruction of Princes and states are yet so confident in their wit and eloquence that they thinke themselues able to perswade the Kings of the earth to account them among good and loyall subiects The old Friars dealt more plainely they professed not obedience to Princes these professe more and would colour their deepe deuises in destruction of Princes with impudency and dissimulation as if they meant not the same things which daily they practise Now that which Wiclif taught against these wicked and prophane opinions of these olde Friars was no other thing then the iudgement of the learned Diuines which liued before and in his time for he brought in no nouelties but the Friars introduced the nouelties in Religion and Iurisdiction And that Distinction which before we obserued betweene the Church of Rome and the Court of Rome he confirmeth as a thing notoriâ—…usly marked in his time for of the Church of Rome he saith thus Protestor publice quod amando venerando Romanam Ecclesiam matrem meam desidero procuro defensionem omnium priuilegiorum suorum That is I protest publiquely that louing and honouring the Church of Rome Ireuerence my mother and procure the defence of all her priuiledges But of the Court of Rome or that particular Church of Rome which was gouerned by the Pope hee saith much otherwise not doubting but that the iudgement of the particular Church of England might in many things be preferred before that particular Church of Rome guided by the Pope Fieripotest saith he quod Dominus Papa foret ignarus legis scripturae quod Anglicana Ecclesia foret longe praestantior in iudicio veritatis Catholica quam tota ista Romana Ecclesia collecta de istis Papa Cardinalibus That is It may come to passe that the Lord Pope may be ignorant of the law of Scripture and that the Church of England may be more excellent in the iudgment of the Catholicke truth then all this Romane Church collected of the Pope and Cardinals Then in those dayes there was not much attributed to the Popes not erring iudgement or to the authority of that Church which was wholly gouerned by the Pope seeing the Pope might be ignorant of the lawe of God and the Church of England might haue a more excellent iudgement in the truth then that particular Church of Rome That which Wiclif saith might come to passe the world seeth and acknowledgeth that since that time it is come to passe That Friars were the introducers of Nouelties we haue already shewed out of Iohn Wiclifes obseruations In this sorte things stood vntill the time of the Councell of Pisa which was helde some twentie yeares after Iohn Wiclifes death §. IIII. The Popes Iurisdiction ouerthrowne by Councels 33. THus haue we heard the iudgement of learned men against the Popes Iurisdiction after that the same Iurisdiction began to be practised these haue refuted especially that part of his claime which was in temporalibus Now we will consider another part of his pretended Iurisdiction which was in spiritualibus in this we finde his feathers as well pulled as in the former so that when both temporall and spirituall Iurisdiction is
would haue imputed hereticall prauity to the Councell Thirdly and last of all the distinction betweene the Church of Rome and the Court of Rome wherof we haue so often spoken is here againe confirmed For these flatterers stood for the Popes Iurisdiction against the Church of Rome heere assembled in a Councell but howsoeuer they haue preuailed since wee see heere that by the Church of Rome they were accounted then but a base companie of flatterers These bee they who afterward preuailed in the Councell of Trent lifting vp the priuiledges of the Pope aboue the Church And this is that Church on the other side which then was in danger to be pronounced heretickes by the Pope and these who are marked and branded not by me but by Gerson Cusanus Aeneas Siluius and the rest of both these Councels of Constance and Basil to bee no better then a generation of base flatterers 54. Then there is no great thing done or at which the world may maruel when we see the reformed Churches at this day accounted heretickes by the Pope and his flatterers for this was a thing long looked for The Church did beare the pride of the Pope the ignorance and insolency of his flatterers as long as she could indure it And when there was no remedie made a separation indeede from the Pope and his flatterers holding on still in the auncient waies of our fathers who haue from time to time made resistance against the Pope and his seruants from which auncient way of our forefathers from their profession sense iudgement and religion the Councell of Trent hath made a famous defection hauing declined and turned aside from the ancient and constant profession of the truth in doctrine and Iurisdiction vnto these new and straunge deuises taken vp of late and inuented by Friars and flatterers of the Court of Rome This defection which the Pope hath made from the Church and the Church from him was long before looked for and diuers did speake of it before it came to passe as Mat. Paris declareth that some feared it might haue beene done by Bishop Grost head so Cardinall Cusanus declareth as hereafter we are to shew how the Church may depart from the Pope 55. The same Gerson saith also Concilium generale potestatem à Christo immediatè habet cui quilibet cuiuscunque status etiamsi Papalis existat obedire tenetur in his quae ad fidem extirpationem schismat is pertinent That is A generall Councell hath power immediatly from Christ whereunto euery man is bound to obey in things concerning faith and the extirpation of Schisme of what state soeuer he be though a Pope And he addeth thus much Saluberima haec determinatio lex fundamentalis velut infallibilis aduersus monstrosum horrendùque offendiculum quod positum erat per multos determinantes ex texibus grossè non ad regulam Euangelicam acceptis c. generale concilium totum â Papa robur immeditate sumere That is This most sound determination is a sundamentall law and as it were infallible against that monstrous and horrible offence which is giuen by many concluding from texts grossely vnderstood and not according to the Euangelicall rule c. That a generall Councell receiueth all strength immediatly from the Pope In which wordes hee obserueth that the Popes flatterers who brought in this Papall Iurisdiction aboue the Church Councels did induce hereby a monstrous and horrible offence in the Church This offence saith hee was giuen by such as would proue this Iurisdiction from certaine texts of Scripture as Tu es Petrus super hanc Petram aedisicubo Ecclesiam meam and oraui pro te Petre c. And such like which are wire-drawen to countenance this Papall Iurisdiction Which texts saith Gerson are grossely taken by these flatterers and not according to the rule of the Gospell And seeing we finde that the Iesuites at this day haue no other ground for the Popes Iurisdiction then the same texts by them and their forefathers distorted into a wrong sense as it is obserued by our forefathers against them let the Iesuites know themselues to be the generation of those that haue distorted the holy Scriptures and thereby brought a monstrous and damnable offence into the Church Gerson presenly after this declareth that against these flatterers the reuerend Cardinall Cameracensis whom he calleth his worthy master did write in defence of the truth Scripsit saith he super hanc materiam reuerendiss pater dominus Cardinalis Cameracensis praceptor meus inclytus which booke of Cameracensis if it be extant for I could not see it though I much desired I suppose might make these flatterers to be better knowen and the right of the Church more strongly confirmed 56. Gerson proceedeth and of that Iurisdiction which the Pope claimeth by imposing his Canon lawes vpon other Princes he saith Papa non debet 〈◊〉 vt Canones positi aut alienae traditiones humanaeâ—…nuariabiluer obseruentur per omnes nationes That is The Pope ought not to striue to impose his Canons or that other humane traditions bee kept inuariable of all nations Where he declareth that this imposing of the Popes Iurisdiction vpon other nations gaue occasion to the Greekes to make a separation from the Latins and daily ministreth occasions of contention through Christendome In the same Booke which he Intituleth De â—…uferibilitate Papae he holdeth positiuely that howsoeuer in some other respects there might be some vse of a Pope yet concerning this our question of Iurisdiction the Pope with all his pretensed Iurisdiction might be vtterly remoued from the Church his position is Auferibilis est Papa per generâ—…le concilium perpetuo 〈◊〉 adtempus quoad ea omnia quae sunt â—…urisdictionis That is The Pope may be remooued by a generall Councell either for euer or for a time in respect of all things pertaining to Iurisdiction Now if the Pope may be remoued from the Church in respect of Iurisdiction then the Canonists are quite put downe who hold that the very essence of the Papacy standeth in Iurifdiction Further concerning this question of Iurisdiction the same Iohn Gerson hath made a Treatise wherein he handâ—…eth this question An liceat in causis fidei a summo Poâ—…tifice appellare Wherein he determineth that a man may appeale from the Pope §. VI. Cardinall Cusanus 57. SOmewhat after this wrote Cardinall Cusanus who offered his Booke De concordantia Catholica to the Councell of Basil submitting himselfe and his labours to the iudgement of that Councell It appeareth that about this time there were some motions and consultations of a reuolt from the Pope and Court of Rome which consultations were moderated then for a time by such learned men as were in greatest estimation but afterward vpon the like reasons it brake foorth Cusanus disputeth this point in an Epistle written to Roderic de Treuino â—…rator to the King of Castile Wherein he seemeth first
to disswade the separation producing that out of Augustine Nullam posse causam dari ob quam necessarium sit ad schisma perâ—…enire That is That no cause can bee giuen for which it may bee necessary to come to a schisme But after much dispute at last hee resolueth that the case may be such that the Church may well depart from the Pope Quando sacer Princeps saith he contra sanctorum patrum statuta aliquid praesumit vbi non constat eum ex causa 〈◊〉 aut necessitatis moueri sed ex aliqua particulari indigâ—…a causa time ipse in priora Petri mandata offendit exiens vires potestatis suae Quapropter non esset inconâ—…eniens si pertinaciter in hoc persisteret Ab eo recedi posse per Ecclesiaâ—… That is When the holy Prince presumeth against the lawes of holy Fathers where it appeareth that he is not moued thereto because of the publike good or necessitie but from some particular of his owne and an vnworthy cause then hath he first offended against the former precepts of Peter going beyond the limits and strength of his power Therfore if hee persist therein incorrigibly it is nothing inconuenient for the Church to depart from him 58. Then if a Pope make a departure first from the Mandates Doctrines and faith of Saint Peter thus going out of the bounds of his power in this case it is the iudgement of the graue Cardinals of Rome who liued and wrote long before M. Luther was borne that the Church might make a separation from the Pope Iohn Gerson saith as before we heard that this separation may be for a time or for euer Now then whereas this separation is made from the Pope by the reformed Churches there is nothing done but that which the Church had in consultation to doe long before in case the Pope should persist in his pride and transgressions and shew himselfe incorrigible So that it is no maruaile if the Church which hath so long before thought of this departure being thereunto so much prouoked by the intollerable ambition of the Pope hath once performed that thing which was so long in consultation especially seeing the Church hath for the same both the warrant of holy Scriptures which doth fully not only prophesie of this departure which the Pope hath made from the truth and consequently which the Church was to make from the Pope but also giueth expresse commaundement to the people of God to depart from thence Go out of her my people And besides this warrant of holy Scriptures they had also the iudgement of the Church before them which Church whether we consider it in particular members as the learned men principall instructours and preseruers of doctrine or in generall Councels hath as we see oftentimes declared herselfe to bee wearied with bearing the Popes proud and ambitious Iurisdiction and hath beene in great consultation to cast off the yoake of this Aegyptian bondage 59. Now from that booke which this Cardinall Cusanus wrote De 〈◊〉 Catholicâ—… we will obserue some things wherein he declareth his iudgement against this Papall Iurisdiction And first he disputeth against them that thinke the Pope hath more power then other Bishops Oportet primum si hoc verum foret Petrum aliqâ—…d à Christo singularitatis recepisse Papam in hoc successorem esse sed scimus quod Petrus nihil plus potestatis à Christâ—… accepit alijs Apostolis 21. d. in nouo 24. q. loquitur That is First if this be true it must bee graunted that Peter receiued some singular power from Christ and that herein the Pope is his successor but wee know that Peter receiued no more power from Christ then the other Apostles 21. d. in nouâ—… 24. q. loquitur And of this spirituall Iurisdiction he saith thus Cum potestas ligandi soluendi in qua fundatur omnis Ecclesiastica Iurisâ—…ictio sit immediate à Christo quia ab illa potestate ligandâ—… soluendi sit diuiâ—…a Iurisdictionis potestas patet omnes Episcopos forte etiam presbyteros aequales esse quoad Iurisdictionem That is Seeing the power of binding and loosing in which all Ecclesiasticall Iurisdiction is founded is immediately from Christ and because the power of diuine Iurisdiction is from this power of binding and loosing it is euident that all Bishops perhaps also all Priests are equall in respect of this Iurisdiction And againe hee saith Quod vniuersale concilium propriè captuÌ„ scilicet quod vniuersam EcclesiaÌ„ representat sit supra Patriarchas Roman Pontificem credo â—…ubium esse non debere That is I hold it a truth not to bee doubted that a generall Councell properly taken that is as it representeth the vniuersall Church is aboue Patriarches and the Bishop of Rome And againe Papa per Synodum in criminibus etiam alijs quam hâ—…resi iâ—…dicari potest That is The Pope may be iudged by a Synod for other crimes also besides heresie Now for the Iurisdiction of the ciuill Magistrate the same Author speaketh thus Imperator Christianorum in sua praesidentia est Christi vicarius That is A Christian Emperour in his office is Christs Vicar And againe Omnis rex Imperator habet officium Publicum ad Publicam vtilitatem or diâ—…atum Publica vtilitas est paâ—…ad quam ordinantur iusticia iusta praelia principium autem pacis est ad â—…inem 〈◊〉 â—…rigere subditâ—…s media illum 〈◊〉 sunt sacra institâ—…ta religionum quare prima cura Imperialis in 〈◊〉 obseruandis verâ—…ur That is Euery King and Emperour hath a publike office ordinate to the publike good the publike good is peace whereunto iustice and iust warres are ordinated the fountaine of peace to direct subiects to an eternall end the meanes to obtaine that end the holy ordinances of religion wherefore the first and chiefe care Imperiall consisteth in the obseruation of those ordinances And therefore he saith Imperator curam custodiae gerit And againe isto modo imperator dicitur aduocatus vniuerâ—…alis Ecclesiae custos sides orthodoxae Which thing he proueth by the ancient practise of the Church because in the Chalcedon Councell the Emperour Martiaâ—…us is called custos fidei and the Emperour Basilius in the beginning of the eight Councell saith that the gouernement of the Church was by the prouidence of God committed to his hands 60. The same Author speaking further of the office of Kings and of their Iurisdiction in Church affaires and in Councels saith Debent râ—…ges principes Synodos congregare iuxta admonitionem sancts Gregorij ad Theodoricum regem Francorum ex registro 273. Iterata vos per vestram mercedem adhortatione pulsamus vt congregari Synodum iubeatis That is Kings and Princes ought to gather Synodes according to the admonition of Gregory writing to Theodoricus the French King ex registro 273. We moue you with our redoubled petition that euen for that
reward that is reserued for you you will commaund that a Synode may bee gathered Another part of the office of a Prince is saith he Confirmare custodire in concilijs 〈◊〉 which thing hee proueth by diuerse auncient authorities and concludeth that Emperours haue euer had this authoritie Hee saith that in this thing hee had made diligent search and had found this practise continued in all generall Councels vntill the eight Synode inclusiuely In which search saith hee I finde by the acts of all generall Councels aswell in Chalceon as in Constantinople Nice Ephesus that either the Emperour was present in person or some iudges his Vicegerents and those not aboue twentie seldome fifteene but when the Emperour himselfe was present in person I finde saith he that hee was alwayes Presedent of the Councell no other secular Prince hath right to be present in the Councell sauing the Emperour Vnlesse the Emperour appoint some to be present but being present they haue no voice in the Councell but may sit onely to heare this he proueth by that testimony of Ambrose in the cause of faith Bishops are the iudges and not the Emperours 61. And whereas this auncient Iurisdiction of Princes was so disordered by the Pope that by Papall intrusions and incroachments the Princes had well-nigh lost their right and temporall Iurisdiction turned into spiritual Iurisdiction of this he much complaineth and openeth the true cause of all this disorder to be in the insatiable couetousnes of the Court of Rome for thus he saith Rabidus appetitus ad ipsa terrena Ecclesijs annexa Dominia Episcopis ambitiosis hodie inest c. de temporalibus omnis cura de spiritualibus nulla Non fuit ista intentio Impâ—…ratorum non volebant spiritualia à temporalibus absorberi c. dum vacant Ecclesiae semper in periculo schismat is existunt c. Si perelectionem prouidendum est ambitio procurat diâ—…isionem vâ—…torum Si per curiam facilius persuadetur pro plus offerente omnia illâ—… grauamina adueniunt pauperibus subditis curia attrahit quicquid pingue est id quod Imperium contulit pro Deicultus bono publico ordiâ—…auit sanctissime auaritia cupiditate exorta palleatis rationibus nouis adinuentionibus totaliter peruertitur Imperiale efficitur Papale spirituale temporale That is Such a rauenous appetite is in ambitious Bishoppes at this day toward the temporall Dominions annexed to Churches c. all their care is for the temporalties not for spirituall matters this was not the meaning of Princes they meant not that the spirituall labours should be deuoured by temporalties c. Whilst the Churches are vacant there is alwaies some danger of a schisme c. If they proceed by election ambition procureth a diuision of the voyces If by the Court he that bringeth most is best heard and soonest preuaileth And all these greeuances come vpon the poore subiects whatsoeueris fat and rich the Court of Rome draweth to her selfe and that which the Empire as well for the worship of God as for the publicke good hath conferred vpon the Church and ordeined to an holy end all is vtterly peruerted through filthy couetousnesse and certaine painted reasons and new inuentions are deuised to colour it And thus the Imperiall right is now made Papall and temporall right is made spirituall Then these be the obseruations of the learned men of the Church of Rome long before vs that the Pope had intruded vpon the Emperours right now what soeuer the Pope had once practised that must be called spirituall Thus the Iurisdiction of the Emperor being once by cunning or force wrested from the Emperour being found in the Popes hand it was presently called spirituall Iurisdiction as he doth most truely obserue Imperiale efficitur Papale spirituale temporale 62. By all which we find the iudgement of this man to be directly against the Popes pretensed Iurisdiction and for the right of temporall Magistrates when we finde the Cardinals of the Church of Rome to write thus before the time of the contention and before M. Luther was borne wee are not so much to consider their priuate iudgements in these things as the receiued iudgement of the Church wherein they liued that is the Church of Rome from the iudgement of that Church they departed not but in these things do faithfully deliuer vnto vs the iudgement of the same Church standing against the iudgement of the Pope and his Court consisting of Friars and flatterers Thus we see the cause of the Reformed Churches throughly iustified by this learned Cardinall their separation from the Pope and the Court of Rome warranted because the Pope hath first made the separation from the profession of Saint Peter and from the faith of holy Scriptures and the idugement of auncient fathers In which case he granteth that the Church may depart from the Pope and thereby doth iustifie the separation that is made §. VII Aeneas Siluius 63. AT this time wrote Aeneas Siluius afterward called Pope Pius the second he hath written a booke of the actes and proceedings of the Councell of Basil from which I will note some things wherein the iudgement of this man may appeare concurring with the iudgement of the Church of Rome in his time but repugnant to the Pope and his flatterers First handling that Text Tues Petrus super hane Petram c. he saith thus A quibus verbis ideó placuit exordiri quod aliqui verba hâ—…c ad extollendam Rom Pontificis authoritatem solent adducere sed vt statiâ—… patebit alius est vâ—…rborum Christi sensus That is With which words I thought good to begin because some vse to alledge these words to extoll the authoritie of the Bishop of Rome but as it shall soone appeare there is another sense of Christs words Who are they who in the iudgment of this man do peruert the words of Christ Let the Iesuites aunswere and let them giue vs some reason able to satisfie a man of reason why that cause should not bee helde damnable which is condemned by their owne writers their Bishoppes their Cardinals their Popes Let them not tell vs that this Pope Pius was of another mind afterward when he was Pope and before he was Pope he might erre but after he was once Pope he could not erre these bee plaine collusions of them who write such things and illusions of such as beleeue them For it is not possible that any man should write or speake or thinke such things from conscience Shall I thinke that any learned man can thinke in conscience this to bee true that the Pope cannot erre when I heare the testimonie of the Church so full against it When I heare such as come to be Popes refute it before they come to that place When I heare such as haue beene in the place exclaime in the extremitie of desperation that no man in
Iurisdion And was hee trow you a Lutheran verily so was the Church in his time for he doth deliuer not so much his owne priuate iudgement as the iudgement of the Church in his time and in the times before him For he saith it was the iudgement of all that liued and died in the Church before him 〈◊〉 mortuoruâ—… that the Pope is to be iudged by the Church by a Councell and that therefore the Councell is aboue the Pope This faith he is the opinion of all that liued and died in the Church And yet hee knew well that Friars and flatterers had before his time maintained the contrary but these he regarded not because the Church then regarded them not they were but of base and vile accompt in respect of the Church and so much the more vile because against the iudgement of the auncient Church against the rules of interpretation against honestie and conscience they had drawen some textes of Scripture to maintaine this Papal Iurisdiction These are they whom these learned men call 〈◊〉 miserable and wretched soules who will not vnderstand that all this which they bring for the Popes Iurisdiction is nothing but the vain words of the Popes themselues or of their flatterers 67. Now seeing the Pope with his flatterers hath much preuailed since this time against the expectation of these learned men must we not conclude that they haue herein made a departure from the Church that they are but flatterers who now follow the Pope that they were neuer accompted otherwise by the grauer sorâ—… of the Church of Rome that their opiâ—…ions are new and strange Thâ—…n with what countenance can the successours of Aenâ—… 〈◊〉 pâ—…t vpon vâ—… the imputation of heresie who follow the ingenuous free and sincere iudgement of the same Siluiuâ—… leauing these opinions whiâ—…h are confessed by him to be new fond straunge vnreasonable deuises of base flatterers and maintaining the 〈◊〉 truth which by the testimonie of these men alwayes continued in the Church This man with many moâ—… will be raised vp in the day of iudgement against this present generation consisting onely euen by the confession of their own Bishops Cardinals and Popes of the Pope and his flatterers forsaking the fellowship of the Church 〈◊〉 is the ground of their conscience For let me speake onely of this part of their religion which now I handle that is Iurisdiction and what ground can any man finde here whereupon he may rest his conscience Let them not bring vs an idle and impertinent discourse of their three conuersionâ—… which in good time by the grace of God will be reuâ—…rsed but let them come to the point and let them shewe in this particular what ground of conscience any man may haue to rest on for the Popes Iurisdiction which was crossed contradicted and inhibited by the auncient Fathers confuted by the learned men of the Church of Rome condemned by the Councell of the Church of Rome maintained by none â—…ut such as are thus notoriously branded with the ignominious titles of flatterers 68. And because the Pope and his flatterers for spâ—…aking of them I must vse this name and stile which so many writerâ—… of the Church of Rome haue vsed before me let â—…hem not blame me or thinke that I 〈◊〉 them I vse but the words of these other writers whom I haue cited These men I say being driuen in argument from all helpes hauing no meanes to answere the learned that disputed against them did vse to flie for helpe to these words of the Gospell Thou art Peter and to thee will I giue the keyes of the kingdome of heauen and I haue prayed for thee Peter that thy faith faile not and such like the same Author declareth that they did altogether abuse and peruert these places of Scripture against the sense of the wordes and against the expositions of the auncient doctors For thus hee saith Eâ—… quia huiusmodi dicta solutionem habent recurrunt statim ad Euangelium tu es Petrus tibi dabo claues regnicâ—…lorum rogaui pro te Petre ne deficiat fides tua duc in altum rete c. Quâ—… omâ—…ia hi homines miro modo sublimant expositionibus sanctorum doctorum omninò posthabuis That is And because these words conteining their reasons aâ—…e all answered they flie presently to the Gospell thou art Peter and to thee will I giue the keyes of the kingdome of heauen and I haue prayed for thee Peter that thy faith faile not and cast thy net into the deepe c. All which these men after a marueilous maner raise vp to extoll the Pope reiecting altogether casting behind theÌ„ the expositions of anâ—…ient doctors Then we haue one Pope full of our side for he assureth vs that this new strange wresting of these textes to aduance the Popes Iurisdiction standeth wholly against the expositions of the auncient Fathers Aenaeas Siluiuâ—… in the same booke speaketh much in the honour of the French Cardinall of Arles as an especiall admirer of his vertues Lodouicus Cardinalis Arelatensis saith he Uir omnium conâ—…tantissimus ad gubernationem generalium conciliorâ—…m natus That is A man of all other moâ—…t constant and one that was borne for the gouernment of general Councels One testimonie I would produce of this Cardinall and then wee haue three Cardinals for vs Cameracensis Cusanus Arelatensis This Cardinall in the mids of the Councell of Basil professed that the doctrine of the Popes Iurisdiction ouer generall Councels was a new doctrine and strange at that time in the Church â—…ardinalis Arelatensiâ—… saith he aiâ—… Eugenianos nuntios implesse Galliam qui 〈◊〉 doctrinam praedicantes authoritatem Romani Pontificis supra generalia concilia magnifacerent 69. After all this when we finde that Cardinall Bellarmine and the rest of the Friars and flatterers haue nothing to say for the Popes Iurisdiction but that which is condemned by these learned men as a newe and straunge doctrine in the Church haue no other reasons to maintaine this their new doctrine then the peruerting of these texts of Scriptures which distorting of Scriptures is expresly censured by the said learned men as standing against the naturall sense of the words and against the expositions of the ancient Fathers writing of those Scriptures when we find not one or two or a few but the cry of the whole Church against them who is able by any shew of learning to auoid our conclusion that they who thus maintain this Papall Iurisdiction are the followers of their forefathers that is onely Friars and flatterers And that we who denie this Papall Iurisdiction giuing to the Church on the one side and to Soueraigne Princes on the other side their proper distinct auncient rights respectiuely belonging to each of them are the followers and the children of our forefathers that is the true ancient vnchaunged Catholicke Church FINIS Iob. 7. 1. Uitruuius lib. 9. cap. 3. Caluin in Amos