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act_n or_o decree_n of_o predestination_n after_o this_o sort_n appeal_v p._n 61._o to_o 65._o 1_o god_n decree_v to_o create_v man_n 2_o he_o create_v man_n good_a 3_o man_n fall_v from_o that_o good_a 4_o by_o that_o fall_n he_o be_v plunge_v into_o perdition_n 5_o god_n see_v he_o and_o have_v compassion_n of_o he_o 6_o he_o stretch_v out_o deliverance_n to_o they_o in_o a_o mediator_n 7_o draw_v they_o out_o which_o take_v hold_v of_o mercy_n this_o i_o must_v profess_v predestination_n to_o life_n be_v the_o everlasting_a purpose_n of_o god_n whereby_o before_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o world_n be_v lay_v he_o have_v constant_o decree_v by_o his_o council_n secret_a to_o we_o to_o deliver_v from_o curse_n and_o damnation_n those_o who_o he_o have_v choose_v in_o christ_n out_o of_o mankind_n and_o to_o bring_v they_o by_o christ_n to_o everlasting_a salvation_n as_o vessel_n make_v to_o honour_n chap._n xx._n the_o point_n of_o predestination_n be_v debate_v this_o chapter_n 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