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A08562 A manuell or briefe volume of controuersies of religion betweene the Protestants and the Papists wherein the arguments of both sides are briefely set downe, and the aduersaries sophismes are plainely refuted. Written in Latine in a briefe and perspicuous method by Lucas Osiander, and now Englished with some additions and corrections.; Enchiridion controversiarum. English Osiander, Lucas, 1571-1638. 1606 (1606) STC 18880; ESTC S101908 177,466 558

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Malach 2. 7. Ans 1 Malachie there shewes what is the dutie of the Priests But that the Priests did not their dutie the verie next words following declare But you are gone out of the waye you have caused many to fall by the lawe c. verse 8. 2 This argument changeth the manner of the speech for the words are a commandement teaching what the Priests should doe but the Papists do vniustly turne them into words of promise iust as if a man should say God hath sayde thou shalt not steale therefore no man stealeth CHAP 4. Of Traditions THE word Tradition often times is simply taken for anie kinde of doctrine whether it be written or delivered by word of mouth But by the name of Traditions are such things also meant which were not written but onely delivered by word of mouth and so have beene from hand to hand conveyed to our age These kinde of Traditions are of two sorts Some containe Ceremonies of nature indifferent and changeable according to the circumstances of place and time which though they be not expressed in Scriptures yet because they are not contrarie to the same and are retained in the Church as things indifferent are not called into question But there bee other sorte of Traditions in Poperie which are contrarie to the Scriptures and whereof there appeares not so much as one step in the Scriptures such as are the Canon of the Masse Holy water a set number of prayers holy Candells and an infinite number more which are commēded to the World vnder the glorious name of Apostolicke Traditions to the observing whereof as being Apostolicke all Christians are bound if wee will believe the Papists The question The state of the question then is 1. Whether besides the Scriptures the Apostles delivered some things by word of mouth only 2 Whether they delivered those things by word of mouth onely which at this day the Papists bragg of as of Apostolick Traditions We deny both the former wherof wee prove by the sufficiencie of the holy Scripture which containes all things necessary to saluation Whereof we have intreated before the later wee prove by these reasons following Because these their Traditions are contrarie to the Scriptures which we wil prove clearely hereafter But we may not thinke that the Apostles writt some things and delivered by word of mouth other and those contrarie to their writings Because in Pauls time such Traditions began to bee suspected in the Church which appeares by the words of S. Paul 2. Thessal 2 2. Be not suddenly moved from your mind nor troubled neither by Spirit nor by Worde nor by letter as sent from vs. Because it may be proved out of histories that such traditions had their first beginning some ages after the Apostles death Wherof see in particular Polidor Virgill especially concerning the Canon of the Masse de Inuererum lib 5 cap 11 c. It is proved by many manifest reasons that those bookes and Canons wherby they indevour to procure authority and credit to their Traditions are forged and counterfaite such as are the Canons of the Apostles the Decretalls the Decrees of Popes the books of Clement and Dyonisius Areopagita Neither do our aduersaries doubt but that many such Canons bookes are counterfeits Such Traditions of men are condemned by the holy Scripture 1 Because they are in cause as Christ witnesseth that in the mean time the Cōmandements of God are neglected Mat 15 3 2 Because God is worshipped in vaine by the doctrines and precepts of men verse 9. 3. Because the Traditions of men cannot reach into the minde of God for my thoughts are not as your thoughts neither are your waies as my wayes saith the Lord For as the Heavens are higher than the earth so are my waies higher than your waies and my thoughts above your thoughts Isay 55 8 9. Whence it commeth to passe that those things which men admire for their singular holinesse do most of all displease the Lord God 4. Because such plants as are not planted of the heavenly Father shall bee rooted out Mat 15 13. Because wee must rely our selues wholly on the Word of God in worshipping of God and that onely must we doe which he hath commanded Neither may we add or diminish anie thing there from Deut 12. 32 neither may we decline from the commandements of God either to the right hand or to the left Deuter 28 14. Because the Traditions of men are deceipts or trappes Beware sayth Paul least there bee anie man that spoyle you through Philosophie and vaine deceite through the Traditions of men according to the rudiments of the World and not after Christ Colos 2 8. Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe argue 1 Brethren stand fast and keepe the traditions which you haue been taught either by word or by our Epistle 2 Thessal 2 15. Therfore our Traditions to wit the Papisticall are to bee received and kept as Apostolike Traditions Ans 1. All the Propositions are particular and it is such a kinde of absurde reasoning as this The Apostles delivered some things by word of mouth we have some Traditions therefore our Traditions are Aposto●ike 2. It is a fallacie from a part to the whole for when Paul wrot these things fewe of those ●hings which appertaine to the Canon of the New Testament were then written That ●herefore which Paul meant in respect of ●hat time when as al were not yet written that the Papists vnderstand simply even of that ●ime when the Canon was perfected when as ●ow wee have all things in the Apostles wri●ings which are needefull to bee knowen for ●aluation 3. There are foure termes in the syllogisme in the Maior are vnderstood Traditions doctrinall Apostolicke in the minor forged Traditions inuented long after the Apostles time 2 Christ did not altogether reject the Traditions of the Fathers where he sayth these things ought you to have done and not to have left the other vndone Luke 11 42. Answe Christ there opposeth the strict obseruance of Moses his law not of mens Traditions in outward small matters as in ●ithing of cumime mint the neglect of the principal duties of the first second Table both which should have beene ioyned together obserued as being both the commandements of God This reason therfore 6 is like a rope of land 3 When Paul and Timothy went through the Citties Tradebanteis they delivered or gave them for Traditions the decrees to keepe which were ordained by the Apostles Elders which were at Ierusalem Act 16 4. Ans 1 It followes not The Apostles 7 deliuered somethings therfore the Papisticall Traditions are Apostolicke There is no coherence in this reason 2 Paul and Timothie deliuered not vnwritten verities but those things which were decreed of the Apostles and then comprized in writing sent to the Church of Antioch The Papists therfore dispute from a written to an vnwritten Tradition 4 Paul saith that hee deliuered
certaine precepts to the Corinthians which they did well that they obserued them 1 Corin. 11 2. Answ The same answer which was giuen to the first obiection fits this too that is that there is no sound proofe of all particulars The Papists should prooue that those Traditions proceeded from the Apostles which they bragge so fast to bee Apostolicke 5 The Fathers testifie that certaine Traditions came from the Apostles to them Answ 1. The Fathers many times by the name of Traditions vnderstand such things as are contained in the Scripture according to the sence and meaning thereof though not according to the Letter And in this sence there bee in the reason foure termes the Fathers vnderstanding Traditions contained in the Scriptures the Papists Traditions not at all there contained 2 The Fathers by Traditions Apostolick vnderstand sometimes generall customes and rites of indifference which was in the liberty of the Church to alter as occasion should require 3. If any of the Fathers haue maintained other sort of Traditions as Apostolick then the question is whether they did well in accepting such Traditions for Apostolicke which were not Apostolick neither did cōsent with the holy Scripture 6 That infants should be baptized that the Eucharist should bee deliuered to women c. wee haue receiued from vnwritten Tradition onely Answ 1. The Antecedent is not true for concerning the former wee haue Scripture that Baptisme is needfull for all and that it doth belong vnto Infants Iohn 3 5. Mark 10 14 15 16. 1 Corinthians 1 16 c. 2 The Trent Catechisme proueth the Baptisme of Infants by diuers places of Scripture Part 2. cap. 2 quaest 26. As for the latter that the Eucharist belongeth to the whole Church and so vnto women wee haue Christs commandement Math 26 26 27 28. Mark 14 22 c. Luk 22 19 20. 1 Cor 11 26 27 28. 7 The obseruation of the Lords day is not found in the Scripture Ans Seeing it is acknowledged by both sides by the Papists as well as by the Protestants that to set a certaine time a part for Gods seruice is a morall and immurable law and that the Apostles left to the Church the first day of the weeke which is the Lords day in Parte terti● ca. 4 quaest 4. steede of the seuenth day which the Iewes obserued as the Trent Catechisme proueth out of 1 Corint 16 2 and Reuel 1 10 We ought to acknowledge it as a precept of God grounded on the Scriptures CHAP. 5. Of the Letter and the Spirit THE Papists seeke themselues an other starting hole when as they cannot proue See Fran. Coster in his Enchiridion of Cōtrouersies Cap 1 of th● holy Scripture out of the holy Scripture many their Idolatrous and superstitious opinions to say that the Scripture is a dead and killing letter but the Spirit that is the meaning of the Scripture is contained in the liuing tables of the heart of the Church that therefore all things ought to be iudged determined not out of the Scrip but by the consent of the Church So for examples sake whereas nothing is found in the letter of the Scripture concerning the worshipping of Images that say they is to bee sought for in the hearts of the faithfull that is of the Pope Cardinalls c Wherein the holy Spirit hath written it that Images are to be worshipped As for vs we acknowledge no other Scripture wherein God doth by writing reueale his will beside the sacred bookes of the Bible and this spirituall Scripture of the Papists we reiect Because the holy Scripture described and comprised in letters deserueth this praise that it can make a man perfect therefore vnto There is one manner of Spirit in the outward Scripture another in the inward which are cōtrary one to another concerning the authoritie of the Scripture Note heere the Spirit of Christ and Antichrist perfection there is no neede of any other new spirituall Scripture 2 Because that spirituall Scripture which the Papists forge doth disanull the authoritie of the holy Scripture penned in paper by the instinct of the holy Ghost But the holy Ghost cannot be so contrarie to it selfe as to commend highly the Scripture by the Apostles and Prophets and to diminish the authoritie of the same by an inward Scripture 3 Because this inward Scripture is manifestly proued to bee often ontrarie to the outward Therefore the hol● Ghost if he be the Author of both should ●● conuicted either of falshood or inconstanie By this meanes we should it open a wide gap to all errours whiles euey man would brag of the inward writing o● the holy Spirit and would compare it wit● and preferre it before the holy Scripture Besides this sauours strongly of the error of the Enthusiasts and Schweneldians on this wise This inward Scripture or writing is either mediate or immediate if mediate then the Scripture keepes his old standing to be the meanes and Rule of this inward writing if immediate then they manifestly fall into the error of the Enthusiasts but our Aduersaries accept not of the former therfore of the later All the paines which the Euangelists and Apostles did take in penning the Scriptures were bootlesse if wee should take no more heede to their writings than to such a like inward Schwenfeldian writing Contrarily our Aduersaries doe argue 1 The Letter killeth but the Spirit giueth life 2 Corin 3● Therefore we are not to heede the Scripture w●tten with inke but the inward Scripture of th● Spirit sealed in the heart of the Church Ans 1. T●●t Paul doth not speake of any inward or o●tward distinction of writing but of the diference of the law and the Gospell the w●rdes immediatly going before A view of a Doctour like exposition proceeding frō the inward writing of the heart doe shew ●od saith S Paul hath made vs able Minist●rs of the new Testament not of the ●etter b●t of the Spirit 2 So then there are fiue ter●es taking the word Letter in the Antecedent or former proposition according to Paules meaning for the Lawe and in the consequent or later proposition for the whole body of the holy Scripture according to the Papists meaning and vnderstanding the word Spirit in the Antecedent for the Gospell and in the consequent for Enthusiasme or immediate inspiration from God the argument therefore hangeth together like sand Now S. Paul calleth the law a killing letter because that no man can bee iustified and saued by the law but the Lawe doth rather condemne and spiritually kill But he calls the Gospell Spirit because the Gospel receiued by faith doth giue the holy Spirit which doth quicken our harts create them a new stir them vp to good workes 2 I will put my Lawe in their inward parts and write it in their harts c. Ierem 31 33. therfore the will of GOD is to bee learned not out of the outward but inward Scripture or writing
A MANVELL Or briefe volume of Controuersies of Religion betweene the Protestants and the Papists wherein the Arguments of both sides are briefely set downe and the Aduersaries Sophismes are plainely refuted Written in Latine in a briefe and perspicuous method by LVCAS OSIANDER and now Englished with some additions and corrections At London Printed by Humfrey Lownes 1606. TO THE READER AS their part is the chiefest in defēding the truth vvho do sifte the full state of Controuersies explicating the question maintaining reasons for the truth and answearing the opposite arguments at large as the nature of euery one doth require for the full setling of mens iudgments vvho with singlenesse of heart desire to bee throughly satisfied so is their labour requisite also who do contract those larger disputations into a briefe and compendious summ For it helpeth the memory in calling to minde that vvhich hath beene reade in larger discourses before it furthereth the iudgment by giuing grounds of arguments answeares which may afterward by the learned Reader be further enlarged by his owne meditations as occasion shall require it may serue for some good taste in the knowledge of controuersies for such as haue not the leisure other opportunities means to read the larger disputations and lastly being cōprised in a small volume it may easily be caried abroad if ●e desire to read such things vvhere wee cannot haue not the greater volumes VVhich reasons moued our Author to pen this briefe Manuell in a perspicuous methode and it vvere to be wished that some of our Countrey men whō God hath furnished with iudgment and other necessaries for such a purpose would endeuour to do the like in our vulgar tongue in this briefe and plaine order In the meane time the translation of this present worke shall bee I trust neither vnprofitable nor vnwelcome Some things are altered vvhich I iudged might bee offensiue or othervvise hinder the Reader but they bee such a●d no moe than I hope who so shall compare the translation with the Originall vvith indifferencie will confesse there vvas reason to doe so Some things also vvhere neede seemed to require I haue added and vvhereas the Author in testimonies alleadged out of the Scripture quoted the chapter onely I haue generally throughout for the ease of the reader annexed the verses also as the case required The censure heereof I leaue to the indifferent reader and commend the successe to God vvhose Name be glorified for euer Amen A Table of the Chapters and Questions CHAP 1 Of the holy Scripture 1 VVhether it be vnsufficient 2 Whether it be obscure 3 Whether it be vncertaine or plyable to any sense CHAP 2 VVhether the Scripture be to be reade of the lay people CHAP. 3 Of the interpretation of the holy Scripture CHAP. 4 Of Traditions CHAP 5 Of the Letter and the Spirit CHAP. 6 Of councells CHAP 7 Of the Church 1 Whether our Church or the Church of Rome bee the true Church 2 Whether it be to be granted that there is an inuisible Church 3 Whether the church may erre CHAP 8 Of the Bishop of Rome 1 VVhether Christ haue neede vpon earth of any Vicar or visible head 2 Of the power and authority of Peter 1 Ouer the rest of the Apostles 2 In the rule and dominion of faith 3 VVhether Peter were at Rome and there instituted an ordinarie succession 4 VVhether the Bishops of Rome be Peters successors 1 In Doctrine 2 In Manners 5 That the pope is Antichrist CHA 9 Of free-will 1 VVhether vnregenerat men can of themselues by vertu● of their free-will b●gin their conuersion 2 Whether Originall sinne haue in it the nature of sinne 3 Of the workes of Infidels 4 Of Grace CHAP 10 Of Iustification 1 Of imputed righteousnesse or of the signification of the word Iustification 2 Whether the grace of Iustification bee aequally alike in all 3 Whether we be iustified by good workes 4 Whether we be iustified by Fa●th alone 5 Whether Paul doe deny Iustification by the workes of the Ceremoniall lawe onely 1 CHAP. 11 Of the true conditions of faith 1 Whether Faith be taken respectiuely or habitually 2 Whether Faith bee onely a bare knowledge and assent 3 Whether Faith be also in wicked men 4 Whether true Faith may be voide of good workes 5 Whether Faith be informed by charitie CHAP 12 Of good workes 1 Whether good workes please God ex opere operato 2 Of Will-worship in generall 3 Of workes of supercrogation or Councells in particular 1 Of Pouerty 2 Of single life 3 Of Obedience 4 That good workes cannot be communicated to others CHAP 13 Of Renouation or imperfect Obedience 1 Whether our obedience begun in this life be perfect 2 Whether Concupisceace remaining in the regenerate be a sinne 1 CHAP 14 Of the Number of the Sacraments in generall 2 A particular examination of the fiue falsely supposed Sacraments 1 Of Confirmation 2 Of Penance 3 Of Orders 4 Of Matrimony 5 Of extreame vnction CHAP 15 Of Transsubstantiation in the Eucharist CHAP 16 Of inclosing carying about and adoring of the Sacrament 1 Whether the Eucharist out of the vse thereof bee a Sacrament 2 Whether the Eucharist be to be adored 3 Whether the Eucharist be to be inclosed caried about 1 CHAP 17 Of the Masse in generall whether it be a propitiatory Sacrifice 2 An appendix of the abuses in the masse 1 Priuate masse 2 The wresting of the masse to other affaires 3 Simonie in the Masse 4 The mingling of water with wine 5 A sinke of Ceremonies 6 The nouelty of their ceremonies 7 The errors and fooleries of the canon of the Masse 8 The masse sayd in Latine 9 Masse for the deade CHAP 18 Of Communion vnder both kindes CHAP 19 Of Purgatorie 1 Whether there be a purgatory 2 Whether the dead be relieued by the suffrages of the liuing GHAP. 20 Of Inuocation of Saints 1 Whether Latria be giuen to Saints in popery 2 Whether Saints be to be prayed vnto 3 Whether Papists commit idolatry in worshipping of images CHAP 21 Of the Vow of single life in ecclesiasticall persons 1 Whether mariage be a state that defileth a man 2 Whether single life haue any prerogatiue in Gods sight before mariage 3 Whether it be in a mans choise to vow single life CHAP 22 Of the errors of popish fastes 1 Of choise of meates 2 Of the tying of fastes to certaine and set times 3 VVhether fasting be meritorious 4 Of the fast of Lent 5 The keeping of fastes is more straightly vrged by the Papists than the keeping of Gods commandements 6 Mockeries in popish fastes 7 The iudgment of the holy ghost of the fastes of hypocrites CHAP. 23 Of Repentance and of the errours which the papists bring into this place of Repentance 1 Of the merite of contrition 2 Of the sufficiency of contrition 3 Of popish satisfaction 4 Of omission of faith 5 Of Auricular confession 2 Conclusion A Manuell or briefe
the Papall councels In that there were witnesses without all exception but in these men do meet among whom there bee many vnlearned wicked in parte Epicures and such as have sworne homage to the Pope In the councell at Ierusalem the decrees were made out of the Scripture but the papall councells make constitutions very often against the Scripture This is therefore a loose reason 2 In the councell of the Priests and Scribes Caiaphas by the holy Ghost prophecied that it was better that one should dye for the people than that all the people should perish Ioh 11 50 Therefore Councells speake by the holy Ghost and are therefore to be obeyed Ans 1. Although Caiaphas vnnwittingly spake the truth that that it was better that one man should dye then all the people perish yet the mind and meaning of Caiaphas was nothing so But the definitiue sentence of the High Priest and the Councell was that Christ was an hereticke a blasphemer a seducer of the People a wicked man and such as well deserued the shamefull death of the crosse This was the decree of that councell which if the Papists will subscribe vnto they shall bee reckoned impious and blasphemous Men. And by alleaging this devilish councell they shall gaine small credite to their owne 2 This argument proceeds from a particular to an vniversall Caiaphas minding an other thing and vnwittingly spoke a fewe true wordes therefore all the decrees of their councells are simply in all thinges from the Holy Ghost and cannot in any case erre 3. They might with as much truth and better reason conclude that Southsaiers when they are sought vnto to speake for a rewarde cannot speake an vntruth Because that Balaam being consulted with of Balak to speake against Israel did on the contrarie side by inspiration blesse them and which is more then is sayde of Caiaphas coulde not doe otherwise and whereas the prophesie of Caiaphas was onely in his wordes which hee spoke in an other sense Balaams prophesie was both in his words and his meaning Numb 22 and 23. 3 Thou shalt not remove the ancient bounds which thy Fathers have made Pro. 22 28. Therfore the decrees of Councells are to be kept Ans 1 Wee have to deale with Counsells whose decrees are contrarie to the holy Scriptures the ancientest boundes of all Therefore are the Councells themselues tyed to this precept 2 This is an argument drawen from the not changing of antient things well ordained vnto new things constituted the last day that against right too 3 And this doe wee at this day against the Papists we shew men the antient limites and bounds which the Prophets Christ and the Apostles have set but the Bishops of R●me haue overturned and cover those most anti●t bounds with their new-fangled opinions humane Traditions 4 Which hee commanded our Fathers to teach their children that the posteritie might know it Psal 78 6 7. Therefore councells declare to vs those things which they were enioyned by this cōmandemēt to teach their childrē Answ 1. There is more in the Conclusion Simil. A Prince bid● his servant● be faithfull therefore none of the can bee vnfaithfull than in the premises for it followeth not God commaunded our Elders to deriue the truth to us therefore of certainty they did so 2 It is a changing of the manner of speach for the Antecedent containeth a commandement the consequent a storie or narration of the fulfilling of that commandement 5 Where two or three are gathered in my name there am I in the middest of them Math 18 20. Therefore the decrees of Counsels are sacred c. for they are gathered together in the name of Christ Answ 1. Heere be foure termes To be gathered together in the name of Christ is to be gathered according to his word and wil but this they apply to the companies of them which decree contrary to the word and will of Christ 2 It is a begging of the thing in question for this is the speciall doubt whether Counsels decreeing contrarie to the Scripture may be said to bee gathered in the name of Christ for it is not enough in counsels to bragg and make shew of the name of A protestation contrarie to thei● deeds Christ and to recite the wordes of the Apostolick Counsell It seemed good to the holy Ghost and to vs c. 6 In the assemblies of Counsels inuocation is made to the holy Ghost that hee would bee their guide Answ 1. That is done with Idolatrous rites It is as if a man should heare one aske aduice of a wise man but would not obay his aduice of the Papisticall Masse therefore their prai●rs are not heard nay such as their seruice is that is Idolatrous such is the Spirit which ruleth them 2 They obay not the Spirit whom they pray vnto neither doe they rest content with his pleasure comprised in the Scripture 7 But who would say that so many so great and so worthie men could all erre at once Answ 1. The Scripture saith that euerie man is a lyar therefore it is not a thing impossible Psa 116 11 that so many and so worthie men should erre 2 Wee cited before examples of famous Counsels which haue erred 3 There is no respect of persons with God 4 I giue thee thanks O Father saith Christ because thou hast hid these thinges from the wise Matthew 11 25 5 Not many wise men after the flesh not many mighty not many noble are called but God hath chosen the foolish thinges of the world to confound the wise 1 Corinthians 1 26 27 6 Onely one Prophet Micha spake the truth when in the meane time foure hundred false Prophets consented together in a lye 1 King 22. 8 All herisies at what time soeuer they haue sprunge vppe haue still beene ouerthrowne by Counsels therefore this honour is as yet due to Counsells Answere This is a fallacie putting that for the cause ●hich is not the cause for Councells not as For example so the Sam●ritans speak vnto the woman wee do not now beleeue because of thy words but because we haue heard him our selues Ioh. 4. 42. Counsells barely considered vnder the name of Councells but as prouing the truth by the word of God haue troden vnder foote and ouerthrown herisies Had the Papists such coūcells we would of our owne accord willingly giue them the honour due vnto them for their ●rue and right alleaging and expounding of Scriptures CHAP. 7. Of the Church FVrther yet the Papists seeke an other shift for the defending of their humane Traditions and Doctrines whiles boasting of the name of the Church with open mouth they tell vs that the true Church was of olde time at Rome and that the Bishop of Rome with his band are at this day that Church and that the Church cannot erre and that therfore all whatsoeuer is deliuered vnto vs from the Church of Rome is to be helde for most certaine and
strife a dead letter 2. Christ condemneth the Traditions of men Matth 15 3 c. But the Pope diggeth out of their graves Traditions long since buried commendeth them highly and bindeth mens consciences vnder the paine of excommunication to obserue them 3. Christ saith out of the heart proceede evill thoughts Matth 15 19. so that the heart is as a corrupt fountaine The Pope saith man is not so corrupted by the fall of our first parents but that hee hath still free-will as well to good as to evill 4. Christ so expoundeth the lawe that it is impossible for vs to keepe it Luke 10 27. with all thy soule with all thy strength c. But the Pope saith the law of GOD may be fulfilled by man 5. Christ received them which believed as Thy faith hath made thee whole Luke 7 50. But the Pope contendeth that faith alone iustifieth not but that we have neede of good workes to our iustification 6. Christ saith when yee have done all that is commanded you say wee are vnprofitable seruants Luk 17 10. The Pope saith consecrated persons over and aboue the fulfilling of the law do also workes of supererogation which they may bestow vpon others as having no neede of them themselves 7. Christ saith verely verely I say vnto you hee that believeth in me hath life everlasting loh 6 40 47. But the Pope layeth at him with a curse who perswadeth himselfe that hee ought certainely to believe without doubting that he is the heire of eternall life 8 Christ sayth that that goes into the mouth defileth not a man Matth 15 11. The Pope saith that a man is defiled by eating the meates which he hath forbidden 9. Christ sayth Drink ye all of this Mat 26 27. The Pope saith Drinke not all but onely Priests So likewise the life of Christ the Pope are directly opposite but wee will not treate of that now Because hee exalteth himselfe against all that is called God For he takes vpon him to alter the Word of God and the Sacraments as is prooued in this whole booke throughout The Pope sits in the Temple of God as a tyranne captiuating Emperours Kings Princes and the Consciences of men vnder his tyrannie The Pope sheweth himselfe as if he were God which hee hath done in accepting of the flatteries of his retainers which are contained in the Canon Lawe and in the books of the Canonists as followeth 1. That the Pope can doe all things above law contrarie to lawe and without lawe Bald. ad caput cum super num 1o. Extr de caus posses et propt 2. That he hath the same consistorie and the See Baldus in C. cum super de causa Propt et pos Lib cerem Pon. 1 li. tit 7. same tribunall seate with God 3. That to him is given all power in Heaven and in earth 4. If the Pope neither respecting his owne nor his brethrens saluation should by heapes drawe innumerable soules with him into the pit of hell c. yet may no man say vnto him what doest thou Distinct 40 cap Si Papa 5 The Pope is god Felinus as also in the Canon lawe Distinct 96 cap. Satis 6 The Pope is the Christ or anointed of the Lord. 7 The Pope may change the forme of the Sacraments delivered by the Apostles Archidiaconus 8 The Pope can doo those things on earth which God can doo in Heaven August Berovius in C. cum tu num 1 de vsuris 9 The Pope hath no peere but God the same Berovius in Rubric de offic de leg n. 10. And many other things which it were ouerlong to rehearse If the Pope approove not these glozing flatteries why doth he not condemne them why doth hee not forbid them why doth hee not accurse them As Herod therfore which rejected not the impious acclamations of the people was therefore guiltie of their blasphemies before God and perished very miserably so the Pope in that he condemneth not the impious flatteries of the Canonists he approueth them is guiltie of eternall damnation and shall bee tormented with Herod for ever in Hell The comming of the kingdome of Poperie is by the working of Satan with miracles and lying wonders whereof all Popery hath been and yet is full as wee reade that manie such lying wonders haue beene of old descried and punished by the Magistrates The Pope worshippeth his God Mauzzim that is the masse with gold silver pretious stones as Daniel prophecied of Antichrist And if the hire of money were denied the masse would fall to the ground of his owne accord The Pope cares not for the desires of Women but forbiddeth mariage vnto Priests And therefore maintaineth a doctrine of deuills 1 Tim 4 3. Hee hath taken away the daily sacrifice withdrawing those praiers frō Christ which he hath caused to be offered vnto Saints And hath defiled the true worship of God with mens traditions and superstitions and intolerable idolatrie This was doubtles to abolish the daily sacrifice These and such other things declare that the Pope is not the successour of Peter nor the Vicar of Christ but the Antichrist whō the Lord Iesus shall consume with the spirit of his mouth c. 2 Thessal 2 8. Hitherto therefore we have maintained the authority of the holy Scriptures against the vaine Traditions of the Papists against Enthusiasmes or inspirations councells not rightly celebrated the counterfaite name of the Church and the falsely pretended authoritie of the Pope of Rome The Popes them selues then are not the Iudges of controuersies but the partie accused before the tribunal of the Church the Church is the Iudge the voice of the Church is the Scripture which alwaies speaketh by the rule whereof ●ll whosoever they bee are bound to give ●nswere and make their account vnto God ●t is therefore good reason that no other rule ●f truth should bee accepted of sauing the ●cripture according to which all opinions ●nd constitutions are to bee examined and ●dged in the Church CHA. 9 Of Freewill QVESTION 1. OVR Aduersaries that they might the more strongly vrge iustificatiō by works doe falsely affirme 1 that a man not regenerated or conuerted 2 even after the fall of Man hath remaining in him so much power 3. in his will vnderstanding 4. in matters spirituall and such as pertaine to the saluation of the soule that he can begin his conuersion 5 of and by himselfe and so deserue a more plentifull grace of iustification This we denie for these reasons ensuing Because the Scripture calleth vnregenerate men dead men 1. And you that were dead in sinnes and trespasses c. Ephesians 2 1. 2. When we were dead by sinnes hee quickned vs. verse 5. 3. Give your selues vnto God as they whic● are alive from the dead Rom 6 13. Because the Scripture compares our will vnto servitude 1. Impenitent sinners are holden captiue of Sathan at his will 2 Tim. 2 26. 2. If you continue in my
volume of Controuersies betweene the Protestants and the Papists CHAP. 1. Of the holy Scriptures The holy Scripture alone is the Iudge of all controuersies which arise in the Church and the most certaine rule of truth REASONS THE Prophet Isaie sendes vs in deciding of cōtrouersies of Religion to the law and to the testimonie Isai 8. 20. that is to the holy Scripture Christ in the controuersie of his person ●nd doctrine saith to the Pharisies Search ●he Scriptures c. they are they which te●tifie of mee Ioh. 5 39. Saint Paul greatly commendeth the holy Scriptures vnto vs saying The whole Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God and is profitable to teach to improue to correct and instruct in righteousnes that the man of God may bee absolute being made perfect vnto euery good worke 2 Timoth 3 16 17. The Citizens of Beraea iudged of Pauls Sermons opinions out of the Scriptures whether Paul taught such things as were agreeable to the holy Scriptures and are for that cause commended Act 17 11. Christ answered out of the Scriptures to the questions of the Pharisies Matthew 19 4 c. of the Sadducees Matth 22 31 c. of the perfect fulfilling of the law Luke 10. 26 27. of his diuinitie out of Psalme 110 Matthew 22 43 44. Whereas hee might haue confuted and confounded them with his miracles alone The Apostles confirmed all their assertions out of the Scriptures as did also the Euangelists Matthew speaketh often of the fulfilling of the Prophets and so decides the greatest controuersie that euer was concerning the Messias out of the writings of the Prophets So Peter also prooueth out of the holy Scripture that Iesus is the promised Messias the Sauiour of the worlde Acts 2 25 c. And Chapter 3. verse 18 c. and Chapter 4 verse 11 25 c. and Chap. 10 verse 43 Stephen fighteth against his aduersaries the Priests Pharisies Scribes with the weapons of the Scripture Acts 7. Paul in the controuersie of Religion which he had with the Iewes prouokes to the law and the writings of the Prophets Acts 24 14 and 26 22 27. The same Paul gathered the doctrine of Iustification out of the Scripture Romanes 1 2 3 4 and 10 Chapters Galath 3 and 4 Chapter and cleareth the controuersie of the person of our Sauiour out of the Scriptures Ephesians 4. Peter draweth Baptisme 1 Peter 3. 21 And other controuersed points betwixt the Iewes and the Christians out of the Scripture of the old ●estament The Epistle to the Hebrewesis wholly heerein occupied to proue the greatest controuersie of his time concerning Christ the only true high Priest out of the Scripture of the old Testament The same did likewise the ancient Fathers in the Church of God who confuted the Heretikes out of the holy Scripture and the ancient godly Counsels ouerthrew the Heretikes not by the opinions of men but by testimonies of the holy Scripture dulie waighed The Position of our Aduersaries The holy Scripture alone cannot be the Iudge of controuersies Their reasons are Because it is insufficient and containeth not all things which pertaine to faith Because it is obscure Because it is vncertaine and may be drawne either to this or that side Hence arise these questions following The first question Whether the Scripture be insufficient They affirme we denie that it is insufficient and that for these testimonies following These things are written saith Iohn that you might beleeue that Iesus is the Christ the Sonne of God and that in belieuing you might haue life through his name Ioh. 20. 31. Therefore those which belieue may attaine euerlasting life by those thinges which are left writtē in the holy Scriptures and so the Scripture is sufficient for the saluation of men Thou hast knowne the holy Scriptures of a childe saith Paul to Timothie which are able to make thee wise to saluation 2. Timothie 3. 15. All things that I haue heard of my Father haue I made knowne to you Iohn 15 15. The holy Scripture doth m●ke ●he man of God absolute and perfect to euery good worke 2 Timo 3 17. I kept back nothing but shewed you all the counsell of God Act 20 27. There can be moued no controuersie of Religion for which the Scripture hath not afore hand prouided a deciding or determining sentence therefore Saint Paul in the controuersie of Iustification calleth the Scripture prouident or fore-seeing Galath 3 8. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 The Apostles taught many things which are not written Answer 1. This is a begging of the question for this same thing is it which is denied Now a doubtfull thing ought not to bee proued by an other as doubtfull 2 The contrarie heereto is contained in the places of Scriptures before alleadged 3 The Apostles should heereby be conuinced of vnfaithfulnes as hauing kept back things necessary to saluation 4 Moreouer there is extant not one onely writing of an Apostle or Euangelist but more that that which is not contained in one may plainely be seene in other of the Apostles writings 2 I haue yet many thinges to say vnto you but you cannot beare them now Ioh. 16 12 Answer 1. It is a fallacie from that which is saide in some particular respect to the same spoken absolutely and generally in all respects for Christ speaketh of his Apostles not yet illuminated by his holy Spirit but he speaks not of them as beeing endued with the holie Ghost in the day of Pentecost That which the worde Now dooth plainely declare 2. While our Aduersaries argue from the Apostles not enlightened to the Church instructed by the writings of the Apostles there arise in the Syllogisme foure termes 3 Besides it was one manner of knowledge which the Apostles had before the day of Pentecost and an other after the receiuing of the holy Ghost therefore these different thinges ought not to bee confounded 3 Other thinges saith Saint Paul will I set in order when I come 1 Corinthians 11 34 therefore Paul did not write all things Answer Paul speakes of indifferent Ceremonies in the Church not of articles of Religion necessarie to saluation Their Argument therefore as the saying is is from the staffe to the corner 4 Manie thinges are not contained in the holy Scripture which are necessarie to faith Ans 1. This we denie it is the very thing in question therefore it is a begging of the question 2. Our Aduersaries play with the word Faith for they meane not a true and sauing faith whereof our question is but in a large sence they take the word Faith vnfitlie wrapping in the word Faith euery friuolous toy long after the Apostles time as it were yesterday obtruded vpon the Church of Christ and so from the two-fold signification of the word Faith there arise foure termes which hinder that there can be no iust conclusion 5 The Scripture saith nothing of Christs descension into hell Answere That is most false for the
Scripture saith thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell Psalm 16 10. The sorrowes of hell compassed mee about Psalm 18. But that these Psalmes speake not of Dauid but of Christ our Aduersaries themselues cannot denie seeing the former is alleaged of Saint Peter expreslie in his Sermon of Christ Acts 2 27. 6 The Scripture sayth nothing of the perpetual Virginitie of Marie of a certainty Therefore it is insufficient Ans 1. Be it neuer so much that the scripture say nothing at all of the perpetuall Virginitie of Marie yet might it not therefore be said to be insufficient to our saluation for we are not hereby saved because we believe that Marie after the birth of Christ remained a Virgin but because we believe in Christ who according to the Scripture Isai 7. 14 was borne of a Virgin 2. The perpetuall Virginitie of Marie may bee shewed by the phrase of Scripture where it sayth And hee knew her not Vntill She had brought forth The word Vntill doth note also perpetuitie as the Raven returned not vntill the waters were dried vp vpon the Earth Genesis 8. 7. which Raven yet never returned at all 7 Manie things are rightly believed although they be not contained in the Scriptures as the words Trinitie Essence Person c. Ans 1. A thing is sayd to bee contained in the Scriptures two manner of waves according to the letter and according to the s●nse by a good consequence Or sometimes the things onely sometimes together with the things the wordes signifying the things are expressed also So the thing of Trinitie and Persons in the Deitie the Scripture expresseth Mat 3 16 17 28 19. Althogh the very words be not cōtained there 2 We are not heerby saved for that wee vse and approve these words which were invented for a more easie and plaine waye of teaching but for that we steadfastly believe the thing it self which is found in the scriptures 8 There are many bookes lost as the Epistle to the Laodiceans c. Therefore the Scripture cannot be sufficient to saluation Ans 1 There are yet remaining other bookes which are sufficient 2 S. Iohn sayth of his Gospell alone that it containeth all things necessarie to saluation Ioh 20 31 9 The Canon of the holy Scripture which is a thing necessarie to saluation is not contained in the holy Scriptures Ans 1. The Canon is a thing necessary not of it selfe but by an accident to wit because heritickes had forged certaine counterfaite bookes which if they had not done there had been no need of a Canon 2 The true Canon is the perpetuall rule of truth which is comprised in the Scripture For therfore false counterfaite bookes are not received because they contradict the Scripture and the truth neither do agree with the authenticke Canonicall bookes 3 And the Church of Christ could for 300. yeares almost discerne the true Scriptures frō the counterfaite before the Fathers had composed the Canon and catalogue of holy writte The Canon therefore is not simply necessary and is contained after a sort in the Scripture 10 Hee shall bee called a Nazarite Mat 2 23. but this is not contained in the writings of the olde Testament Ans Yes this is typically spoken of Christ in the person of Sampson Iudg 13 5. And our Aduersaries if they be well in their witts will not reiect the types of Christ set out in the olde Testament Question 2. Whether the Scripture be obscure We deny they affirme We say it is plain for these reasons The Lawe of the LORD is perfect conuerting the soule the testimonic of the Lord is sure and giveth Wisedome to the simple Psalm 19 7 Nothing of all which the Scripture could effect especially to the simple if it were obscure The commandement of the Lord is pure and giveth light to the eyes verse 8 Thy Word is a Lanterne to my feete and a Light vnto my path Psal 119 105. Wee have a most sure worde of the Prophets to the which you doe well that you take heede as vnto a light that shineth in a darke place c. 2 Pet. 1. 19. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 Many sayings in the Scripture are very obscure Ans 1. We may not dispute from a part to the whole saving only particularly and of meere particulars no conclusion wil follow 2. Some things be obscure in the Scripture not of themselues but accidentally and the vaile that covers the eyes of the Iewes and other infidels is the cause thereof the word 2 Co 3 15 is not the cause 3. That which is spoken more obscurely in one place is explained more clearely in an other And so by conference of places the clearenes of the Scripture appeareth 2 Saint Peter sayth that in Pauls Epistles there be some things hard to bee vnderstood 2. Pet. 3. 16. Ans 1. Some things are hard to bee vnderstood therefore not all Heere the former answere fits this obiection that is that those things which are written of Paul more briefely and some what obscurely in one place are in other places most fully explained 2. Peter layes the fault of the obscurity vpon the vnlearned and vnstable which wrest and peruert the Word of God Now nothing was ever so plainly delivered which may not bee wrested by the frowarde to a wrong sence which is apparent in the outragious dealings of Heritikes Neither yet is the Scripture for that cause to be accused of obscuritie 3. Over and besides the greek text saith not that either the Epistles of Saint Paul or the maner of his teaching which he vseth in his Epistles is obscure but only thus much it sayth that Paul doth intreate of not onely such things as are plaine and easie for everie one to conceive but that he doth not let passe in handling of things necessarie to beknowē such things as have in them some difficultie Which to bee so the nature of the Greeke Article En Hois which cannot answere or agree with the Antecedent En autais but with peri Toutoon accordingly also as Xantes Pagninus and Arias Montanus both of them Papists and Men very skilfull in the tongues have translated this place 3 In the Scripture are handled many things most obscure and such as cannot be found out by the wit of man to reason seeme very absurde Ans 1. They be obscure absurd to the reason of the naturall man but not to faith 2 It is not all one to say obscure things are hādled in the scriptures things are handled in the scriptures obscurely For thē by the same reason euery explication of an obscuritie should be it selfe nothing else but obscurity 4 The Greeke Hebrue Phrases breed obscurity Ans 1 To them that know not the tongues they be obscure Therefore that is but accidentally 2 This inconuenience is easily remedied by the knowledge of the tongues 3 Therefore the Primitive Church had the gifts of tongues And at this day by the singular
blessing of God there are many excellent men indued with the knowledge of the tongues who do fitly properly expound the Phrases of the Scriptures 5 There be some customes of the former ages vnknowen vnto vs as that which is said 1 Cor. 15 29. of them which are baptized for dead Ans 1. Some therefore not the whole Scripture The argument therefore goes from a part to the whole 2 Those things pertaine not to faith but to some speciall Ceremonies of the Ancients which faith is never a whit the worse if it know not 6 The Scripture handleth heavenly and high matters such as our reason cannot comprehend Ans 1. By faith wee believe the heavens were made Heb 11 3. 2. The Scripture as much as may be descendeth downe and applieth it selfe to vs and our capacitie 3. Many things are simply to be believed which in this life wee know but in parte but in that which is to come wee shall know fully 7 Some things are handled mistically as the Revelation Ans 1 Such are not Articles of faith therefore wee may be ignorant of them without losse of Saluation 8 Some cannot beare strong meate Therefore in the Scripture some things are plaine and some things are not plaine Ans 1. This is an Argument from a particular to a Generall on this fashion Some things are not vnderstood of all therefore all the Scripture is to be accused of obscuritie 2. Because the weaker sort cannot beare strōg meate the faulte is not in the meate but in their weakenesse Therefore heere is the fallacie whcih Logicians call fallacia accidentis And the stronger in tracte of time may expound the obscure things to the weaker Question 3. Whether the Scripture bee vncertaine and pliable to any sense Our Aduersaries affirme wee denie it Because If the Scripture bee plyable to any side then it will follow that either God coulde not or would not speake more distinctly that his minde might bee vnderstood Neither of which can bee sayde without great blasphemy Wee have a most sure word of the Prophets not flexible and vncertaine 2 Peter 1. The Word of our God shall stand for ever Isay 40 8. But we could not rely vpon the word of God as most true most certain if the Scripture were flexible Heauen and Earth shall passe away but my word shall not passe away Luke 21 33. If wee must belieue this word then doubtlesse it must not be flexible doubtfull and mutable Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 In expounding of the sayings of Scripture the best Interpreters the fathers of the church doe not agree therefore the Scripture may bee drawne into diuers sences and meanings Answ The Scripture is not the cause thereof which remaines alwaies the same both for Simil. As if the motion of the stars should therfore be said to varie to change for that Alphonsus P●olomie haue not hit vpō the truest motion words meaning but the cause is the weaknes of mans iudgement Whence it cōmeth that one vnderstands more than an other that one hath more clearenes of iudgment than an other that one is more or lesse furnished with knowledge of tongues than an other or doth lesse diligently compare places of Scripture together and waigh the things themselues by their necessary circumstances antecedents cōsequents what went before what comes after so then the Scripture is not flexible but mans iudgment is diuers therfore let vs chuse the better and refuse the worse 2 But all Heretiks do alleage for themselues the Scriptures Ans I answer 1 as to the former obiection 2 That happens not by the fault of the Scripture but the fault is in Heretikes as S. Peter saith for that they wrest and offer violence to the Scriptures haling their opinions into the Scriptures 3 Vnlesse the Scripture were certaine and free from flexibilitie it could not confute any heresie therfore it is not vncertaine 3 The Copies of the bookes of Scripture might be corrupted by the Scriueners and such as copied them out or by the Iewes Answer From what may be to what is is no good argument 2 By comparing of ancient Copies as also by the Analogie of faith if any be corrupted they may be amended 3 Againe heere is the fallacie which they call fallacia accidentis wheras the Scripture seemes to be flexible and vncertaine but of it selfe it is not but by an accident to wit through some mens negligence 4 But the Hebrue Copy in many places agrees not with the translation of the seuenty Interpreters therfore it is corrupted by the Iewes Ans That disagreeing hinders not the certainty of the Scriptures for the translation of the seuentie Interpreters is not of absolute authority in the Church of God neither is to bee compared or opposed to the Hebrew Bible whereto as to the fountaine in the diuersitie of translations we must euer haue recourse And who can assure vs that that which comonly goes now a-daies vnder their name is the right translation of the seuentie wheras it may euidently be shewed that a great part of the Latine translation of the Bible is not Hieroms which notwithstanding is thrust vpon the Church of God vnder the name of S. Hierome for this the barbarousnes of the Latine translation and ignorance of the Hebrew tongue as also the diuersitie of the stile in diuers places compared together doe apparently in many places conuince CHAP. 2. VVHether the Scriptures ought to bee read of the Lay-people Our Aduersaries denie and wee affirme it for these reasons Because the Scripture dooth make a man ●bsolute perfect to euery good work Lay men haue need of it for this purpose as well ●s the Clergie 2 Timoth 3 17. The Lord commanded that the King who is a ciuill person should read in the book of the law all the daies of his life Deut. 17. The Epistles of the Apostles were written not onely to Bishops and Clergie men but to Lay men too as appeareth by the Epistle of Paul to the Galatians wherein he warneth his Hearers that they discerne betweene false and true teachers So both the former and later Epistle to the Corinthians speaketh manie things to Lay men So likewise the Epistle of S. Iohn where the Apostle saith I write vnto you litle children c. I write vnto you fathers c. I write vnto you young men I write vnto you Babes c. 1 Iohn 2 12 13 14. Peter wrieth to the Elect strangers dispersed abroad If therfore Epistles bee written to Lay men why should they not also be read of Lay men The brethren of the rich glutton were Lay-men whō notwithstanding Abraham sendeth to Moses and the Prophets Luke 6. 29. This was fore-told by Isay They shall be all so Lay men too taught of God Isai 54 13. We haue examples hereof in the Scriptures 1 of the Eunuch who reade Isai the Prophet Act 8 28. 2 Then of the Beraeans Act
17 11. Christ bids all in generall search the Scriptures Neither did hee giue this charge to the Priests alone but to others his hearers also Ioh 5 39. S. Peter willeth all euen Lay men too to be ready to giue an answer to euery man that asketh them a reason of the hope that is in them 1 Pet 3 15. which that they may do it is needfull that they learne it out of the Scripture Contrariwise our aduersaries reason thus 1 The Scripture hath many obscure things therefore the Lay people can reade it with profite Answ 1. Although all things be not to euery man plaine yet the people alwaies finde such things as they may vnderstand 1 those things which seeme hard by often reading become more easie 2 The Lay people by reading the Scriptures misvnderstood do easily fall into heresie it were better therefore they should refraine Ans 1. If they fall into heresie that comes accidentally not because they reade the Scriptures but because they read them not in such manner as they should do and doe preferre ●heir formerly conceiued opinions before the Scripture and wrest it to them 2 On the contrarie side good men and well minded hauing been deliuered frō herisie by reading the Scriptures haue returned to the truth 3 To whom it belongeth not to iudge of cōtrouersies to them neither doth it belong to read the Scriptures but it belongeth not to Lay-men to iudge of cōtrouersies therfore neither to read Ans 1 The Minor or second proposition is most false 2 Then had the Beraeans done amisse in reading and from thence deciding a controuersie then newely sprung vpp 3 Seeing euery one is bound to answer to God for himselfe it is needfull for euery Lay-man to proue all things and keepe that which is good 1 Thessa 5 21. 4 So should the order which discerneth betweene teachers learners be confounded Ans This we denie for a Lay hearer may try and examine those things he heareth by the Scripture remaine for all that a hearer still for he doth not therfore take vpon him the office of teaching in the church because he examineth the thinges which hee hath heard of his teacher by the touchston of the holy Scriptures As likewise the Beraeans became not therefore of the order of teachers because they iudged of the Sermons of Paul and Silas CHAP. 3 WHether the interpretation of the holy Scriptures bee to bee sought for from the Church of Rome This question arose from hence that the Papists seeing that wee did esteeme more of the holy Scripture than that we would suffer the authority thereof to be diminished and that the letter of the Scripture did manifestly make for vs did straight change the state of the question and said that the question was not of the authority of the Scripture but of the interpretation thereof the right of which interpretation they make to be so peculiar to the Church of Rome that they would binde vs to receaue any interpretations that should come from thence bee they neuer so absurd and false But we gainsay them herein and reiect the forged power wherby the Bishops of Rome make claime to the key of knowledge and interpretation as committed to them alone Reasons prouing our opinion Because the interpretations of the Papists contradict the euidences of holy Scripture as shall be most plainely prooued in his due place Because the greatest part of them are most vaine as for example that the eight Psalm is expounded by the Canonists as meant of the Pope which notwithstanding speakes of Christ alone as the Apostles and Christ himselfe haue interpreted it Because they affirme as by name Cusanus doth that if the minde and opinion of the Romane Church be changed that then the holy Ghost doth change his mind in the Scriptures too What an impious mad absurdity is this Many times they explaine not the Scripture but wrest it violently shamefully to vphold their own toyes contrary to the text of Scripture The gifts of God such as the interpretation of the Scripture is one are not tyed to certaine persons places for God distributes these his gifts to euery man as he will 1 Corinth 12 ●1 It is no where read that the whole Church is tied to the meaning of the Romaine Church but to the meaning of the holy Scripture which doth expound it selfe most clearely Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe argue 1 If we beleeue the Romane Church that it hath conuayed vnto vs the true proper books of the Bible and not counterfait and forged thē must wee belieue her also in the interpretation which she bringeth of the holy Scripture Ans 1. It is one thing to beare witnes of the truth of the sacred books and an other thing Simil ●t is one thing to acknowledge the Seals hanged to a Testament and another to expound it contrary to the Teuor of the letter to expound them So the Iewes are witnesses of the Canonicall books of the olde Testament yet we accept not of their Talmudicall interpretations 2 Moreover the interpretations of the Papists do contradict that same Scripture wherof they beare witnesse 2 The Scribes and Pharises sit in Moses chaire all therefore whatsoeuer they bid you obserue that obserue and do Mathew 23 2 3. Ans 1 The Pharisies were to be believed not simply in all things but when they sate in the chaire of Moses that is when they taught the truth out of the law of Moses It is therfore a fallacie from that which is spoken but in part and some respect to that which is absolutely spoken 2 They were to be hearkened vnto when they taught Moses but in the meane while Christ said also Take heede of the leaven of the Pharisies Now Christ by the leaven of the Pharisies meant their false doctrine as S. Mathew expressely witnesseth cap. 16 v. 12. that is Christ did reiect the Pharisies false interpretatiō of the Scripture So then wee must distinguish betweene the scripture it self which the Papists handle their false interpretatiō or humane traditiōs wherwith they defile it 3 God would have thē punished with death which would not obey the judgment of the high Priest Devter 17 12. Ans 1 Moses speaketh not of matters of faith but of civill government betweene bloud and bloud betweene plea and plea betweene plague and plague as the wordes of Moses are verse 8 in which matters for publike peace sake it was necessary there should be some order appointed for ending of controversies For the high Priest at that time was the highest Iudge from whom no man might appeale 2 It was not in the high Priests choise to judge as hee pleased but hee was tyed to the lawe of the Lord according to which he gave sentence In like sort is the Popetyed to it too 4 The Priests lippes shall preserue knowledge they shall seeke the law at his mouth for he is the messenger of the Lord of Hosts c
infallible as beeing receiued from heauen Heere therefore wee are to handle three questions 1 Whether the Church of Rome or our Church bee the true Church 2 Whether wee ought to grant that there is an invisible Church 3 Whether the Church can erre First of al in the entrance we must obserue● that there may many waies arise ambiguiti● in the word Church First it doth signifie indefinitely Ambiguitie in the word Church euery Church or congregation and is taken both in the good and bad pa●● for any kinde of assembly or congregation whence also the Scripture maketh mentio● of the malignant Church Secondly it is t●ken for the company of them which a● called by the outward ministerie of th● word and Sacraments wherein are gath●red both good and bad Matthew 13. Thirdlie it is taken for the inuisible Church or the company of them which vse the Ministerie of the Word and Sacraments to their saluation and are truely beleeuers which also may bee called the companie of the Elect. Fourthly it is taken foure maner of waies in respect of the foure fold outward face of the Church 1 For the most pure Church of the Apostles 2 for the Church of the Fathers wherein there was a more sincere state of doctrine than in after-ages yet it was not altogether voide of superstition 3 For the Church of Antichrist which is ouerflowne with horrible Idolatrie as with a kinde of deluge 4 For the reformed Church restored according to the conformitie of the Apostolick Church A fift signification the Papists haue made vs vnderstanding by the Church not a company of teachers learners but the Pope Cardinalls Bishoppes Monkes c. By obseruing of these distinctions we shall detect many stratagems of the Papists seeing they play continually with the ambiguitie or equiuocation of the word Church and in their arguments they bring sometimes fiue termes But now let vs come to the questions Question 1. Whether the Church of Rome which at this day blasphemes the Gospell of Christ curseth and persecuteth the professours thereof or ours be the true Church Wee denie that the Church of Rome is the true Church for these reasons Because they want the true notes and the true definition of the Church therefore neither haue they the definitum that is the Church 1. The Church heareth the voice of Christ Iohn 10 27 Which is reuealed in the Scripture which the Papists do not heare and that 1 in refusing it for their Iudge 2 in making decrees in many thinges against it 3 In giuing it but cold and slender commendation 2. Because they haue not the sincere ministration of the Sacraments and that 1 in forging new Sacraments 2 in defiling Baptisme with humane superstitions 3 in making Monasticall habite state equall to it 4 In changing the Lords supper into a sacrifice 5 And in the C●munion of lay people in maiming it of the one kinde that is by taking the cup frō the people they haue not therefore an vncorrupt Ministerie and consequently their Church may not be called a true Church Because they haue not so much as the notes which the Papists themselues require in the definition of a Church 1. Their Church hath not vnitie 1 Because they striue amongst thēselues about manie things 2 They haue not vnitie by reason of the foure-fold face and condition of the Church before noted 2. Their church is not holy because they trust in their own holines which before god is not holines but as filthy clouts Isai 64 6. 3. It is not Catholick 1 Because they haue not the consent of the whole world for the Greeke Church hath alwaies dissented from them in diuers points 2 because they defend not the vniuersall true doctrine of all times therefore they neither agree with the Church of the Apostles nor yet with the Church of the Fathers 4. It is not Apostolick because they agree not with the Apostles doctrine seeing verie many of their thinges are not Apostolick but superstitions raked together and compiled of sundry Authors Take for example there of the Canon of the Masse and the mangling of the Lords Supper which was vnknowne for many ages and at length established by the Counsell of Constance Likewise Indulgences the feast of Corpus Christi other moe without number concerning which looke Polidor Virgil. lib. 4. cap. 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 As also the whole 5 6 7 8 bookes But of such like superstitions of the Romaine Church that they be contrary to the Scripture shal hereafter bee spoken in their proper places sufficiently Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 The Church of God hath had the name of the Church euer since the Apostles time therefore it is the true Church Answ 1. It followeth not It was long agoe Simil. This woman was long since a Maid therfore nowe she cannot be an harlot therefore now it is 2 There is no good argument from the bare name of a thing to the thing it selfe 3 Neither yet doe wee denie but that there doth at this day remaine some Church in the City of Rome to wit of such as bee yong children girles and simple men which simply believe in Christ their Saviour and trust nor in their owne merits Neither is it to be doubted but that there be some intelligent and wise men in Rome who with all their hearts derest the Popes impietie and tyrannie But all these are not that Roman Church with the authoririe wherof our Aduersaries do seeke to oppresse and beare vs downe 2 The Fathers themselves did account the Roman Church for the true Church Ans 1 Here be foure termes For in the Antecedent the worde Church is taken for that face or condition of the Church which was in the Fathers time in the consequent for that state wherin Antichrist doth raigne Now it followes not it was so twelue or thirteene hundred yeares ago or vpward therefore it is so now 3 The state of the Roman Church is most antient therefore the Roman Church by reason of his antiquity is the true Church Ans 1 We denie the Antecedent for the testimonies alleaged before out of Polidor Vergill 2 not simply that which is anciēt is to be received but that which is most ancient For the Devill is ancient but God is more ancient 3 Antiquity cannot make that good which in it selfe is bad 4 The Church of Rome is the Vniversall and Catholicke Church therefore it is the trve Church Ans Wee denie the Antecedent For if by the word Catholicke be meant that which agreeth with the Catholicke and so with the Apostles doctrine then the Antecedent is absolutely false But if the Church of Rome be called Catholicke by reason of the multitude of those that take parte and cleave to that side then the multitude of them that err is no iust defence for the error Otherwise in the time of Arrianisme the Apostolicke CHVRCH as beeing brought to a great paucitie shoulde
not have beene the true and Catholicke Church but the Arrians should have been the Catholick Church for that they far exceeded in nūber the rest which were the true Christians In this sence therefore wee deny the consequence The Antecedent also is not true because as before I sayde the Church of Rome doth not consent with the Church of the Apostles nor yet with the Church of the Fathers And therefore they haue not that vniuersality of multitude whereof they boast 5 If the Church of Rome bee not the true Church then for some ages together Christ had beene without a spouse but Christ never was without a spouse Therefore c. An 1. From a speciall to a generall arguments are drawen only affirmatively It is no good consequence therefore the church of Rome consisting of Popes Cardinalls Bishops Priests and others of the same ranke who withstood the heauenly truth were not the spouse of Christ therefore Christ had no spouse 2. I deny the maior or first propositiō For there were also other Churches as the Greeke Church which alwaies gainsayd the Bishop of Rome and wherein Christ might haue his spouse The argument therefore proceedes from an insufficient enumeration or reckoning vp of the parts to the whole 3 In the visible erronious Church of Rome there was the spouse of CHRIST hidden to the eye of the World all glorious within Psal 45 13 or the inuisible companie of belieuers Ans so Christ neuerthelesse had his Spouse On the contrarie side that we haue the Church of God with vs we proue Because to us agreeth the definition of the church therefore the church which is the thing defined agreeth to vs also 1. For in our Church the vncorupt ministerie of the word and Sacraments dooth flourish for witnesse whereof wee haue the holy scripture nay our Aduersaries thēselues who hither to coulde neuer shewe out the Scripture that there is any thing in our Ministerie doctrine or administration of the Sacramentes contrarie to Christ or his Apostles Therefore wee are the true Church Because our Church in respect both of the Word and Sacraments is comformable to the Church described in the writings of the New testament vnder the Apostles Contrariwise our Aduersaries do reason thus 1 The Protestants belieue not all thinges which the Church of Rome dooth Therefore they are not the true Church Ans 1. There is more in the Conclusion than in the premises For no more followeth thence than that we do not agree with the Church of Rome in all things which who will deny But wee may not for that cause be thought not to be the true Church 2 It is a begging of the question For whether they which gaine-say the Churh of Rome do gaine-say the true Church that is the thing in controversie 2 The Protestants Church dooth not agree with the Church of the Fathers in all thinges Therfore they are not the true Church of Christ Ans 1. This argument is too common and agrees to both sides For by the same reason it may be proved that the Papists are not the Church because their Church which they cannot deny hath much fallen away from the Church of the Fathers 2 the church of the Fathers is not the sampler of Churches but the Church of the Apostles to which it is sufficient that our Church is like 3 The Prodestants doctrine is new It is but few yeares agoe since it first sawe the light Therefore their Church is not the true Church Answ 1. This is a begging of the question For that same is the matter in controversie 2. Our doctrine is not new but renued 3. There are therefore foure termes in the Argument For in the Maior proposition the worde Newe is taken for that which is simply and altogether new in the Minor for the refined and renued ministerie of the Word reformed according to the rule of the most anciēt doctrine of the Prophets Christ and the Apostles 4 The Church ought to have vnitie but so hath not the Church of the Protestants for it is rent and devided into parts and schismes Ans 1 Heere be foure termes For in the Maior proposition by the word Church are meant those which in truth and deede are the Church in the minor those which are in the outward company of the Church or those which have mingled themselves amongst our Church when as in truth they be not of our opiniō And these sever themselues from the true Church of them who maintaine the truth and stirre vp Schismes Of such sort of men Saint Iohn saith They went out from vs but they were not of vs for if they had been of vs they would have continued with vs 1 Iohn 2 19 2 It is a fallacie taking that for a cause which is not a cause Because the Church is not the cause of tumults and schismes but Schismatickes are the cause therof Otherwise the Church of Corinth had not beene the true church seeing Paul writeth There must be heresies among you 1 Corinth 11 19. Question 2 Whether we must grant that there is an inuisible Church The Papists acknowledge onely a visible Church which same they tye to the Pope Cardinalls Bishops c. rather than to the hearers But wee in this visible companie of them that heare the Word and vse the Sacraments doe believe that there is an other companie inuisible to the eies of men not in respect of the members persons themselues but in respect of the intēt of their hart and their fayth which is only known vnto God And that for these reasons Because wee believe the holy Catholicke Church but faith is the ground and evidēce of things which are not seene Heb 11 1. Because those which are in the visible Church may a great part of them be hypocrites betweene such and the true beleeuers God alone doth discerne vnto vs the hearts of men are not knowne and the Church doth iudge of secret ●gings 1. Christ knowes his sheepe Ioh 10. 14 27 2 The foundation of God remaineth sure and hath this seale The Lord knoweth who are his Timo. 2. 19. Because we haue the thing it selfe the invisible Church deciphered by examples in the holy Scriptures 1 For a long time hath Israel beene without the true God and without priest to teach and without law but there Christ was not altogether deprived of his Spouse but though the ministerie were corrupted he had his invisible Church 2. Chron. 15. 3. 4. 2 I will leaue vnto me saith the Lord seven thousand men in Israel which haue not bowed the knee vnto Baal 1. Ki. 19. 18. But this company could not then be perceived with bodily eyes but was invisible and only knowne vnto God as is gathered out of verse 10 and 14. ● At the time of Christs comming into th● world when the publick Ministerie of the Word was corrupted God had his inuisible Church Marie Ioseph Zacharie Elizabeth the wise men that came frō the East Simeon
Anna c. He is not a Iewe which is one outward neither is that Circumcision which is outward in the flesh But he is a Iewe which is one within and the circumcision is of the hart whose praise is not of mē but of God Rom. 2 28 29. Now how God in the time of Poperie the publick Ministerie of the word being corrupted had his inuisible Church is thus declared There were a cōpany of baptized Infants which were a great part of the Church but Note By this declaration it appeares t●at we doe not condemne our godly ancestours who liued in the time of Poperie the Church was neuer at any time without baptized children seeing that Baptisme euen vnder the raigne of Antichrist remained in the Church There were alwaies godly intelligēt mē which gaine-said the Pope sometimes open●y sometimes secretly See the booke inti●uled Catal●gus testium veritatis and those who gaine-said him had them which appro●ed their iudgement although by reason of the tyrannie of the Bishops of Rome they durst not openly make profession thereof There were also many simple men whose harts were more pure thā were the mouthes of their teachers The simpler sort had the chiefe fundamentall points of Christian Religion in the Lords praier the Creede and the ten Commaundements whereby they might bee instructed to a true faith a right inuocating of God and an holy life They heard the Passion of Christ read out of the stories of the Euangelists as also the rehearsing of the Gospels They might therfore out of the text neglecting the glosses of their Preachers learn those things which are necessarie to saluation They confirmed their faith by receauing the holy Supper of the Lord which though it was maimed of the one kinde the cup being quite taken frō them yet were not they in fault who were cōstrained to endure that tyrannie The Masse and other idolatrous seruice by the speciall prouidence of God were celebrated in the Latine tongue for which cause the Lay people were the lesse partakers of their idolatrie which vnderstoode not what was done They had Christ the foundation It is credible therefore that in their agonie the stubble that was built vpon the foundation was consumed but thēselues saued as it were by the fire of tentation tribulation 1 Cor. 3. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason 1 Yee are the light of the World a City that Note 〈◊〉 this 〈◊〉 our Aduersaries should proue that the church is onely visible but they proue nothing els but that the church is visible which is not questioned is set on an hill cannot be hid also no man lighteth a candle and putteth it vnder a bushell c. Mat. 5 14 15. therefore the Church is visible Ans 1. I graunt the whole reason if by the Church be meant the externall publick Ministerie 2 It is a fallacie from that which is spoken in some respect to the same taken absolutely for in that the Church is said to be visible that is true in some respect onely that is not in respect of the inward man but of the outward publick Ministerie 2 That the Church is visible and that the Church is inuisible be contradictories therefore if it be granted that the Church is visible the inuisible is ouerthrowne Ans Contradictions are not vnlesse they be spoken of the same things and in the same respect but that Church is called visible in one respect and inuisible in another for it is visible in respect of the externall companie of them that heare the Word and vse the Sacraments but it is inuisible in respect of the inward man and true faith which is knowne to God alone as before I said 3 Vnlesse the Church bee visible there will not bee an apparent and free accesse to the Church for any man which ought notwithstanding continually to be so Answer 1. There is an equiuocation in the worde Church First it is taken for the publick Ministerie of the Word and Sacraments and so I grant the whole reason Secondly it is taken for those which doe truly beleeue the Word and rightly vse the Sacraments and so the conclusion is to be denied 2 By that which hath beene sai● it appeareth that the Antecedent speaketh of the former the consequent of the later acceptiō of the Church and so there bee foure termes in the Syllogisme 4 Christ bids vs heare the Church Matthew 18. Which if it bee inuisible cannot bee found out Answer 1. I answere to this reason as to the former 2 Our Aduersaries haue more in the conclusion than in the premisses For thus much followeth that there is a certaine visible church or that in some meaning the church is visible but that there is onely a visible Church there is neuer a word in the place cited 5 The Fathers did oppose the authoritie of the visible Church against Heretikes therefore there must needes be a visible Church Ans 1. It is a fallacie supposing that for a cause which is not For they did not oppose the authority of the Church against the Heritikes for that it was either visible or inuisible but because at that time it preserued the sacred bookes and the sincere profession of the Doctrine 2 Neither did the Fathers seeke to represse the Heritikes by the onely authoritie of the Church but stroue against them with the authoritie of the Scripture Question 3. Whether the Church may erre Our Aduersaries denie it hoping that if it appeare as in truth it doth that the Church in ancient times was at Rome and if that the Church cannot erre that they shall easily without any adoe free themselues from all crime of falshoode by the bare name of the Church being free from all errour But we denie it for these reasons Because the promises of preseruing the purity of the Church are conditionall and not absolute as if yee continue in my word yee are verily my Disciples Ioh 8. 31. Because where the thing doth testifie the contrarie there no plea hath place But we haue examples ready at hand both in the olde and new Testament that the Church hath erred 1. The Church of the olde Testament a● concerning the publick Ministerie hath often erred as in the Wildernes when i● worshipped the Calfe in the time of the Iudges it oftentimes fell away from the true seruice of God The like happene● vnder the gouernment of King Ahab i● the time of Ieremie and of Christs comming in the flesh 2. In the new Testament the Church erred 1 In the Church of Corinth many doubted of the Resurrection of the dead 2 The Galathians swarued from the Apostolick doctrine of Paul in the article of Iustification 3 The Church of Pergamus fauoured the Nicholaitans Reuelation 2 15. 3. At this day the Church of Rome doth erre in many things which hereafter shall be made to appeare as cleare as the noon day The particular members of the Church are not free from error as it is plaine that Peter
erred Galath 2 11 14. All admonitions and predictions of the changes of the Church of taking heede of 1 Iohn 2 18 c 1 cor 11 1● Math 7. 15 Act ●0 28 29 c 2 Thessal ● 2. 15. false teachers of diligent keeping of sound doctrine c were friuolous superfluous if ●t were impossible that the church shold err And why aboue all other Churches the Church of Rome whereof we now treate ●hould haue this speciall priuiledge that it ●annot erre there is not one sillable or title in ●he holy Scriptures Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason thus 1 The Church is the pillar and ground of truth 1 Timothie 3. 15. Therefore it cannot erre and consequently the Church of Rome neuer did erre An. 1. There are heer foure terms because the Antecedent speakes of the true Church in which alone is Saluation to bee had and which is the keeper of the writings of the Prophets and Apostles but the consequent speaketh of the Church of Rome which is indeede the company and Church of Babilon 2 It is a fallacie from that which is spoken but in some respect onely to the same taken absolutely Because the Church is the pillar and ground of truth that is so long as it maintaineth the truth followes the direction of Gods word But and if it swarue aside from the word of God it can no longer be called the pillar of truth 2 Christ promised to the Church the Spirit of truth Iohn 14 16 17 Therefore the Church cannot erre Answer 1. This promise did principallie pertaine to the Apostles in whom it was most exactly fullfilled and secondarily to the Church which holdeth the doctrine of the Apostles such as the Church of Rome is not at this day 2 It followeth not the holy ghost was given to the Church therefore the Church shall retaine it forever Or the spirit was given to the Church therefore the Church dooth alwaies follow the direction and guiding of the Spirit For neither did Christ so promise his holy Spirit that needs it must abide with the Church howsoever the Church behaue it selfe and turne aside from the revealed Word of God For so the Church of the Galatians coulde never haue been seduced 3 Christ prayed for the Church Father sanctifie them with thy truth c Ioh 17 17. therefore it cannot err Ans 1 Here bee foure termes The Antecedent speakes of the companie of the Elect or the inuisible as is plaine by the whole text the consequent of the visible Church 2. It is a fallacie from that which is spoken but in some respect to the same taken absoly For Christ speakes so adding withall a condition Thy Word is truth Therefore this promise is tyed to the obseruance of that worde as to a certaine condition 4 My Spirit which is vpon thee and my words which I have put in thy mouth shall not depart out of thy mouth nor out of the mouth of thy seede from henceforth for euermore Isai 59 21. Ans 1 If this promise had beene made without condition then it would follow that God had not kept his promise For these words doe immediately goe before They shall feare the name of the Lord from the West and his glory from the rising of the sunne or the East but the Easterne Churches have had a most miserable downe-fall long agoe This promise therefore is condtionall as if God should say I will not forsake thee for ever if thou forsake not me It is therefore a fallacy from that which is spoken but in some respect to the same taken absolutely 2 This promise belongeth to the Church which obeieth the word of God vnto which God will never be wanting with his spirit 5 The Comforter shall abide with you for ever Ioh 14 16. therefore the Church of Rome cannot erre Ans 1 What agreement is there between the Apostles witnesses against whom no exception can be taken the present Church of Rome as now it is vnder the kingdome of the Pope which differeth so much from the Church which Paul taught at Rome as light dooth from darkenesse 2 There is no good consequence from that which is spoken indefinitely to the same spoken definitely or determinately but in the Antecedent the speech is indefinite in the consequent definite There be therfore in this reason foure termes 6 Christ sayth that hee will abide with his Church vntil the end of the World Mat 28 20. Therefore the Roman Church cannot erre Simil. The Husband promised that hee would bee faithfull to his wife all his life lōg therefore she ca●not become an adultere Ans 1 There is more in the conclusion than in the Premisses for it followeth not Christ remaineth with his Church therfore the Church can in nothing swarue from Christ 2 Besides the Argument is from that which is spoken indefinitely to the same taken definitely 3. And there bee foure termes For Christ speakes of the true Church wherewith the present Church of Rome to which our Aduersaries wrest this promise hath no agreement besides the bare and naked name onely 7 The gates of Hell shall not overcome the Church Mat 16 18. Ans 1 Heere bee foure termes In the Antecedent the Church is meant which is built vpon Christ his Word and Sacramēts but in the consequent such a Church is meant as is built vpon the Pope and Traditions of men 2 As long as the Church remaineth vpon this Rocke that is Christ it is inuincible but not so if it make defection from the Gospell of Christ CHAP 8. Of the Bishop of Rome THe Papists being driven from their holds which have now beene treated of doe flee to the authoritie of the Pope as to a sure sacred anchor For they imagine 1 that Christ appointed Peter as his Vicar in the Church 2. And gave vnto him both the dominiō over the whole Church and also the dominion of faith 3 that Peter was Bishop at Rome and gave the same authoritie of dominion to that sea or place 4 That the Bishops of Rome are his successours both in Power and Office And that therefore whatsoeuer proceedes out of their mouth of any point of Religion must needes be infallibly true and that all the faithfull or all Christians are bound to obey them From this rope platted of sand arise moreover these questions 1 Whether Christ have need of any such Vicar on earth 2 Whether Christ gave Peter authority power whereby he should beare rule over the rest of the Apostles and have the dominion of faith 3. Whether Peter were at Rome and did there constitute this order 4 Whether the Bishops of Rome be the successors of Peter the Apostle Question 1 Whether Christ have neede of any visible head or Vicar in his Church on Earth The Papists affirme and wee denie it for these reasons Christ had ill provided for his Church if he had ordained a man vniversall Vicar which might erre as beeing a man as
Peter also erred Galat 2 11 14. Neither could be present in all places Christ only is the head of the Church Eph. 1 22 4 15. But the Church is not a two headed monster The Heavenly Father commended onely Christ vnto vs that wee should heare him Matt 17 5. Contrariwise our Aduersaries reason 1 From a similitude A Prince that goes into an other Countrey hath neede to leave some man behinde him furnished with full and absolute power so wee must beleeve that Christ did when he was to depart from vs. Ans Heere be manie falshoods and ridiculous toyes 1 Similes doe some times illustrate but never prove 2 If it were never so true that Christ had appointed a Vicar yet it would not follow that the Pope should be hee 3 Neither is there absolute authority such as is falsely ascribed to the Pope granted to anie vicar but authoritie onely which is bounded and limited by lawes 2 It is needefull that some one watch for the whole Church Ans 1. Christ watcheth for the whole and for the parts and speciall members let everie Bishop watch amongst his Clergie 2. It is a thing impossible that anie one man should watch over and for the whole this reason therefore supposeth an impossibility 3 In the olde Testament God appointed a Vicar in deciding controversies to wit the high Priest that hee might bee a visible head in the Church Deut 17. An 1 They argue from a type the signification whereof was accomplished ended in Christ to the Pope Which maketh foure termes in the Syllogisme for the high Priest was not the type of the Pope ●ut of Christ 2 The Priest was Iudge in civill affaires between bloud and bloud c therefore from civill affaires to Ecclesiasticall no good consequence can be drawen vnlesse perhaps from the type of Christ to the Pope 4 It is needefull that there should be some Vicar of Christ to interprete cōtroversies which arise or fall out in the holy Scriptures Ans If this were granted to bee never so true which yet may not be granted it wold not therefore follow that the Pope should be that interpreter 2. The Holy Ghost sendeth vs back to the Scriptures which is that our firme word of the Prophets 2 Pet 1 19. 3 Wee doo not reiect anie Interpreter which shall speake according to the law and the testimonie that is which shall interprete the Scriptures according to the Analogie of faith But the Pope will never suffe● himselfe to be tyed to this condition 5 It is certaine there should be one and a certaine visible heade for the preseruing of the vnitie of the Church Ans 1 Christ is that heade which governeth his Church by the Ministerie of the Word and Sacraments to whom whosoever joyneth himself is made one bodie with the Church vnder one head 2 The Pope draweth vs from this vnitie whilest he sends vs away from the Scripture to the closer of his breast which doth very often crosse the holy Scripture directly 6. A Monarchie is the best state of gouernment but we must thinke that the Church is to haue the best state of gouernment therefore a Monarchie Ans 1. As concerning a visible head there ●s great difference betweene Ciuill and Ecclesiasticall gouernment And Christ him●elfe sheweth a very great vnlikenes between ●hem when he saith The Kings of the Gen●iles raigne ouer them but you shall not be so Luk 22 25 26. 2 But as concerning an in●isible head we haue Christ the only true Monarch of his Church 7 In the Church all things ought to bee done Corinth 1. 14 40. ●● order but all Ecclesiasticall Order is contai●ed vnder the Pope Ans In the Antecedent proposition Paul ●eats not of the order of inferiour or superi●ur persons but of the outward order of Ceremonies which is to be obserued in the ●ssembly of the Church for comlinesse sake Such an order euery Church ought to obserue as the circumstances of time person and place shall require though they submit not themselues to the yoke of the Bishop of Rome The alleadging therfore of that saying of Paul makes nothing at all for the establishing of the Monarchie of the Bishop of Rome and so heere be foure termes in this argument Question 2. Whether Peter receiued 1 power of Dominion ouer the rest of the Apostles and 2 the dominion of faith We denie both and first we denie that Peter receiued Dominion ouer the other Apostles for these reasons Because it is no where taught in the holy Scriptures Because Peter doth no where testifie that hee receiued such power but behaued himselfe as equall to the rest in power 1. I which am a fellow-elder Consenior and witnes of the sufferings of Christ 1 Pe. 5 1. 2. Not as Lords ouer gods heritage but that yee may be ensamples to the flocke 3. Therefore he suffered himselfe to be sent of the other Apostles into Samaria with Iohn as his fellow equall Act. 8. 14. 4. He suffers himselfe to be accused for that hee had gone in vnto the Gentiles as being their equall cleareth himselfe before them Act 11. 2 3 c. 5. Hee endured himselfe to be reproued of Paul Galat 2 11 14. 6 Who is Paul who is Apollo 1 Cor 3 5 which wordes doe shew that there was no authoritie no superioritie among the Apostles one ouer another 7. When Iames and Cephas Iohn knew Note 1. Paul placeth Iame● in the first place 2 Hee saith not pillar but pillars 3. H● calleth thē fellows of the grace of God that was giuen vnto me which are counted to be pillars they gaue to mee and to Barnabas the right hands of fellowship c Galat 2 9. Christ saith the Kings of the Gentiles raigne ouer them but yee shall not bee so Luk 22 25 26. When the Apostles stroue for superioritie Christ neuer preferred Peter but exhorted all and so Peter also to equalitie humilitie Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason 1. Math 10 2. Where the Apostles are reckoned vp in order Peter is said to be the first Ans There bee foure termes in the Antecedent the word first is taken for the order of counting or reckoning and in the Consequent for the order of dignitie or authoritie 2 Thou art Peter and vpon this rocke I will build my Church therefore Peter is the foundation of the Church and thereupon hath power ouer the rest Ans It is a fallacie of Composition because in the Papists argument those thinges iointly are spoken of Peter which Christ spoke distinctly and seuerally of himselfe of Peter 2 Because Christ spoke to all the Apostles vnder the person of Peter it would follow arguing as the Papists doe that euerie one of the Apostles was the Prince of the Apostles Nowe what an absurditie were this 3 Christ saith to Peter feede my sheepe c. Ioh 21 17. Therefore hee made him head of the Apostles Ans 1. Heere is the changing of an
Peter neither can they certainly say who was his successor the different opinions are these 1. Platina Sabellicus Epiphanius reckon thus 1. Peter 2 Linus 3. Cletus 4. Clemens 5. Anacletus 2 Eusebius Irenaeus Hierom reckon them thus 1. Peter 2. Linus 3. Anacletus 4. Clemens 5. Of Cletus they say nothing 3. Damasus the Tomes of the Counsels Maria●● Scotus Caranza doe reckon them thus 1 Petrus 2 Clemens 3 Anacletus 4. Onuphrius reckoneth them thus 1 Peter 2 Linus 3 Clemens 4 Cletus 5 Anacletus Caranza saith In a matter so intricate I leave the defining therof to the iudgment of the Reader Summa concil pa 13. Amongst the Ecclesiasticall Writers some doe reckon fewer some reckon moe Bishops so that they agree not in the nūber Because the Church of Rome in respect of this succession hath not anie where in ●he holy Scriptures any prerogative given her aboue other Churches They are not the sonnes of the Saints as ●he Canon lawe confesseth which possesse ●he roomes of the Saints but they that prac●se their works nether doth the See make a Bi●●op but a Bishop maketh the See as also the ●ace doth not sanctifie the man but the man both sanctifie the place Distinct 40 cap ●ulti Sacerdotes c. But the Pope is not the ●ccessor of Peter neither in doctrine nor in ●anners 1. Not in doctrine Peter taught thus There is giuen no other name vnder heaven whereby we must be saued but by Iesus Act. 4 12. The pope hath other names that men may bee saued by the merites of Saints the virgin Mary Iohn Baptist the holy Martyrs as also Francis Dominicus c. Peter To him that is Christ gaue all the Prophets witnesse that through his name all that belieue in him shall receiue remission of sinnes Act 10 43. The pope Sinnes committed after Baptisme are not remitted but are recompenced for by vs not because we belieue in Christ but in our works Peter acknowledgeth one onely foundation of the Church euen Christ the corner stone Math 16 16 1 pet 2 6 The pope placeth himselfe for the foundation and corner stone of the Church Peter Submit your selues to all manner of ordinance for the Lords sake whether vnto the King or vnto Gouernours c 1 pe● 2 13. The pope would haue all Kings and Emperours subiect to him Peter ascribes vnto Christ that hee is the Shepheard and Bishop of our soules 1 Pet. 2 25 and the chiefe or head Shepheard 1 Pet. 5 4. The pope takes it to himselfe that hee is the pastor of all soules and the head Shepheard Peter Baptisme is the stipulation or taking to witnesse of a good conscience 1 pet 3. 21. The pope The state of Monkerie is equall See Aqui● as lib 4 〈◊〉 distinct 4 art 3. to Baptisme and Christians that haue fallen into any sinne after Baptisme cannot comfort their consciences by their Baptisme although they repent Peter If any man speake let him talke as the words of God 1 pet 4 11. The pope If any man speake let him speake our Traditions of men Peter Feede the flock of God not for filthie Venalia nobis Templa Sacerdotes Altaria Sacra Coronae Ignis Thura preces Coelum est venale deusque Mautu●n lukers sake 1 pet 5 2 The Pope Wares of all sorts are heere to be sold Buy what yee will for money downe told Churches Priests Altars Offerings Crowns We passe for quicke sale all Cities and townes Fire frankincense Dirges pardons frō paine Hell Heavē God the Devil we give al for gain 1 Peter not as though ye were Lords over Gods heritage 1 Pet 5 3. The Pope will bee Lord over Angells Church and Christian Monarchies c. Peter Resist the devill steedfast in the faith 1 Pet 5 9. The Pope Resist him by consecrated candles holy water the signe of the Crosse moonkish weede c. Peter Make your calling and election sure by holines and good workes 2 Pet 1 10. The Pope seeke for your iustification before God by good workes Peter we followed not deceivable fables when wee opened vnto you the power and comming of our Lord Iesus Christ 2 Pet 1 16. The Pope hath canonized the fabulous Bookes of Dominick and the conformitie of Saint Francis as also the lying Legends are yet set abroade to sale And more over hee hath gone about to confirme the most of his trash by fables Peter we haue a most sure word of the Prophets to which ye do well that yee take heede 2 Pet 1 19. The Pope dooth no otherwaies runne away from the scripture than the devill is supposed to doe from the signe of the crosse But and if we would further compare the Popes decrees with the doctrines and writings of the other Apostles we should finde that they differ as farre as Heauen and hell 2 Peter and the Bishops of Rome differ very much in manners Peter inueigheth against them which live luxuriously delighting themselues in their deceiuings c. having eyes full of adulterie 2 Pet 2 13 14. The Pope feedes a great number of such massing seruants of his owne Peter lived in humilitie The Pope in more than Ruffian-like ryot Peter carried himselfe as a Minister or seruant to others The Pope behaueth himselfe as Lord of Lords Peter caried about a wife with him i. Corinthians 9 5. The pope abhorreth mariage in priests Peter condemned Simonie Act. 8 20 c The pope for money selleth Indulgences Bishoprickes Palles Bulls and all thinges are ordered for the scraping of money and the wiping of others of their substance See the popes a A book openly set to sale wherein is the price of absolutiō for most hai nous sinnes whereof Espencaeus cōplaineth most pittifu●ly in Tit. cap. 1. Digress 2. taxa paenitentiaria 6 Peter was godly holy honest chaste c. The pope hath in the Genealogie of his succession Thieues Magicians Southsaiers Witches Adulterers Whoremōgers Warriours and what not Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason The Fathers called the Bishops of Rome the successors of Peter Answer 1. They were better Bishops then than they bee nowe a-daies The ancient Bishoppes of Rome the most of them were holy Martyrs the late ones voluptuous persons 2 And all godly and good Bishops are the successors of the Apostles in office not only the Bishop of Rome if he were good and godly 3 The Fathers also called Rome the purple colored whore Hieron to Marcella and Augustin ●● Ciuit. Dei lib 8 cap 22 and other An other or the first Question coincident with the former Who the Pope is I Answere He is Antichrist Because all things which are foretolde of Antichrist in the holy Scriptures are fulfilled in the Pope Hee is called in the Scriptures an Aduersarie that opposeth himselfe against Christ Now the Pope opposeth himselfe against Christ manie wayes as for examples sake 1. Christ commends the holy Scripture Ioh 5 39. The Pope calleth it the matter of
8 c and 51. 16. Where the true sacrifices are not defined by the worke wrought but such as come from a person contrite and humbled and which is in favour with God Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason 1. Though the person bee not in favour yet the worke it selfe is good Answere The worke hath a double respect either as it is considered in it selfe whereof wee speake not heere or as it is considered in an other According to this latter respect the worke is considered together with the worker and so the work which is good in it self is polluted by the impure and impenitent worker Whereof we spoke more afore 2. The worke of Ahab though an hypocrite pleased God when he humbled himselfe 1 Kin. 21 29. Ans As Ahab did not truly repent so neither was there any thing meant as concerning eternall salvation but onely of the diminishing and mitigating of temporall punishments Now our question is of workes which as our Aduersaries thinke merite everlasting life they argue therefore verie fondly Question 2. Whether workes and services of mans choise and tradition having no warrant in the holie Note The state of the Controuersie is not of things indifferent such as pertaine to order in the Church but of the true manner of worshipping God Scriptures doe please God and be to be observed as necessarie to justification Our Adversaries hold this affirmatively laying so great a necessitie vpon those traditions that often times a man shall be judged to haue sinned more greevously for transgressing one of those traditions than for neglecting some of Gods commandements but wee out of the word of God doe reject these wil-worships Hitherto may be applied those arguments which were brought before chap. 4. against traditions Because to appoint and define the service of God belongeth to God alone and not to any creature whatsoeuer 1 Hence it is that the Lord doth set this preface before the 10 Commandements as it were to procure authority to them I am the Lord thy God Exod 20. 2. 2. God not wee hath ordained good workes that wee should walke in them Ephes 2 10. 3 Proue what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God not of men Rom 12. 2. 4. Teaching them to obserue all things whatsoeuer I haue commaunded you Math. 28 20. The will of God is perfectly declared in the holy Scriptures that wee haue no neede to make choise of new services for him 1 For the Scripture doth instruct a man that he may be absolute being made perfect vnto all good workes 2 Timothie 3 17. God will not haue any man to depart from this his revealed will or to adde any thing thereto or to frame or invent any new things beside 1. Yee shall not doe euery man whatsoeuer seemeth him good in his owne eyes but whatsoeuer I commaund you take heede yee doe it Thou shalt put nothing thereto nor take ought there from Deut. 12. 8. 3● 2. Take heede that yee doe as the Lord your God hath commaunded you turne not a side to the right hand nor to the left Deut. 5 32. 3 Seeke not after your owne heart nor after your owne eyes Numb 15 39. 4 Thou shalt not turne away frō the law to the right hand nor to the left Iosu 1 7. Because GOD doth witnesse that such works are very displeasing vnto him 1 By the example of the Israelites who of a good intent did erect for Gods glory Groues Temples high places Altars c. 2 So those who would without the cōmaundement of God imitate the fact of Abraham in offering vp his sonne are most sharply reproued by God 2 King 16 3 and 17 17 and 21. 6. and 23. 10 c 3. Saul in sacrificing without the commaundement of God offended 1 Sam 13. 9. 10. 11. 4. In vaine they worship mee teaching for doctrines the precepts of men Matth. 15 9. By these services of mens choise and devising it commeth to passe that the commandements of GOD are neglected as Christ shewes by examples Math 23 16 Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason 1. VVhatsoever is done with a good intent cannot displease God but the service of God of mans choise and invention is done with a good intention therefore c. Ans In the first proposition is the begging of the thing in question for that proposition is not onely controversed but also it is very expresly condemned in the places of Scripture before alleaged 2. The holy Ghost which is promised to the Church will not commaund those things which are contrarie to Gods will but those services of God are deliuered of the Church from the mouth of the holy Ghost therefore c. Answere 1. If the CHVRCH did ordaine those things by the instinct of the holy Ghost then would wee graunt them the whole reason but seeing that this same thing is a matter in controversie heere is a begging of the thing in question 2 Christ saith of the holy Ghost hee shall bring all thinges to your remembrance that I haue tolde you Iohn 14 26 Nowe let our Adversaries proue that ever Christ tolde such thinges and wee will beleeue them Likewise the holy Ghost shall glorifie Christ Iohn 16 14 but these services doe obscure Christ with his merites 3 Neither may wee impute that to the Church of Christ whatsoeuer certaine superstitious men haue broached vnder the title and name of the Church bringing heereby the true Church of Christ into bondage and vexing them with the observation of mens traditions 3. Christ saith of his Apostles he that heareth you heareth mee Luke 10. 16. therefore it is all one as if Christ had deliuered those seruices of God with his owne mouth Ans 1. What agreement is there betweene Christ and Belial betweene the Apostles and the Prelates of the Roman Antichrist 2 It is a fallacie of diuision because those necessarie words which are part of the instruction that Christ gaue to his Apostles are omitted to wit teach them to obserue whatsoeuer I haue commanded you Matthew 28. 4 As the doctrine of the Scribes and Pharises sitting in the chaire of Moses was approoued so the constitutions of the Prelates of the Church concerning the seruice of God are to be approued and ratified Answ 1 To sit in Moses chaire is not to frame new deuises of GODS seruice but to teach MOSES It is therefore a fallacie from that which is spoken in some respecte onely to the same taken absolutely and in all respectes For then the Pharises fate in Moses chaire when they taught the law of Moses but not when they broached superstitious and false conceits wherof Christ saide Beware of the leauen of the Pharises meaning their doctrine Matth 16 6 12 2. There is more in the conclusion than in the premisses For there followeth no more but this that the Ministers of Christ that teach well and liue ill are to bee heard if in the meane while they teach that which is truth But
what is this to the purpose 5 Manie things are held and defended in the Church that is of Rome which are not in the Scriptures Answ For this verie cause they are forgeries deseruedly for the reasons before alleadged to be reiected 6 There are in the most auncient Councels which are approved and allowed on both parts constitutions which are not comprised in scripture but are receiued as being de●●uered by the Church Ans 1 These constitutions belong to order and comelinesse and are not matters of faith Therfore this is nothing to the purpose 2 Neither are they proposed by the Councells as meritorious of eternall life but as things indifferent 3 And in Councells which wee approue of wee receiue those things onely which are not contrarie to the Word of God 7 Christ never commanded to abstaine from that which is strangled which notwithstanding the Apostles commanded Acts. 15 29. Nay they were abrogated and afterward brought vp by the Apostles Answ It is a fallacie from that which is spoken in some respect to the same taken absolutely and in all respects For the Apostles did not require this as a thing necessarie to saluation but did ordaine in some respect according to the rule of charitie in favour of the weake ones who might bee offended at Christian libertie vsed vnseasonably But the Papists contend for such constitutions as they make necessarie It is therefore an argument from that which is necessarie by an accident and speciall occasion to that which is of it selfe absolutely necessarie QVESTION 3. The question is what kinde of workes those bee which our Aduersaries doe call workes of supererogation Our Aduersaries commende them highly as making men perfect but wee haue some things to except against them both in generall and in particular as That which they presuppose as a grounde is Error 1 false that is that we can performe more than is required of vs by the lawe When yee haue done all things which are commanded you say wee are vnprofitable seruants Luke 17 10. It is contrarie to the article of sanctification which dooth not grant to any man in this life a perfect plenarie fulfilling of the lawe much lesse anie workes of supererogation Whereof wee shall speake in the next Chapter following Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason thus 1 Christ sayth if thou shalt supererogate anie thing c. Luke 10 35. Therefore he had reference heere to workes of supererogation Ans 1 In controuersed points of Religion wee may not play with allegories which haue no ground in Scripture 2. Christ doth there extoll the charitie of the Samaritan● who before had giuen money to the hoste to make prouision for the wounded man and with all promised him that if he● spent more in prouiding for him hee would repaie it But what is this to workes of supererogation 2 I fulfill the rest of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his bodies sake which is the Church Colos 1 24. Ans He speaketh nothing of the perfecte keeping of the lawe much lesse of workes of supererogation but of that parcell of the Crosse which God layeth vpon the shoulders of the Church and the members thereof to bee borne of them that they may bee made like to the image of his Sonne Romans 8 29 For the meaning of Paul is onely this since that certaine afflictions are allotted to the CHVRCH that himselfe beareth a great part of them that the measure of sufferings may bee fulfilled in the mysticall bodie of Christ And what is this to the works of supererogation They faine that Christ hath brought vs a Error 2 new and more perfect lawe by adioyning Euangelicall councells to the lawe which is very false Because manie of those things which they call councells are indeed commandements and the explication of the morall law wherof manie also are comprised in the Lawe of Moses where the tenne Commandements are explained Christ was not a Lawgiuer but a Mediatour 1 The Lawe was given by Moses but grace and truth by Iesus Christ Ioh 1 17. 2 And therefore that hee should not seeme a Law giuer Christ iudgeth no man Ioh 8 15. 3 Therefore the preaching of the Gospell not of the Lawe is called the preaching of Christ and the Ministerie of reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5 18 19 20. This false assertion of our Aduersaries savoureth of Mahometisme For Mahomet in his Alcoran saith that Moses gave not so perfect a law that Christ gaue a more perfect law for that no man could bee saued by the ●awe of Moses but that Mahomet hath giuen a most perfect and absolute law Change this last name of Mahomet into the name of S Francis Saint Dominicke c. and it wil be the verie same thing Our Aduersaries reckon Povertie amongst Euangelicall Councells and workes of supererogation 3 Pouerty but falsely Because it is not a councell but a commandement that when neede so requireth we Mat 8 19 20 c 10 37 38 c. Lu 18 29 c. should part with al the goods of this life nay life it selfe for Christs sake But the Moonkish pouertie is farre from this The Moonkish pouertie is but a mockerie For therein the sweate of the browes layed vpō everie man in his calling is changed for yearely and most certaine renenews and pensions for terme of life Contrariwise our aduersaries doe reason 1 CHRIST sayd to the young man who asked a councell of perfection If thou wilt bee perfect goe and sell all c Matt 19 21. Marke 10 20. Ans The whole text doth make it plaine that Christ woulde represse and pull downe the proude yong Pharisee that swelled with perswasion of his owne perfection and that he meant nothing lesse than to teach that perfection did consist in povertie Neither would Christ by this answer prescribe a common rule of attaining to perfection But as God prooued Abrahams obedience when he commanded him to offer his sonn which yet he would not haue done so Christ by enioining the young man poverty would bring to light his disobedience and idolatrous worshipping of money That so it might appeare that hee loued riches more than God and that therefore he lyed in bragging that he had kept the lawe They ground the counsell of vowed chastitie 4 Chastitie vpon the words of Paul Concerning virgins I haue no commaundement of the Lord but I give counsell 1. Corint 7 25 and he thas is able to receaue this let him receaue it Matthew 19 ●2 Ans 1. Pauls counsell in this place was not concerning perfection or of obtaining of eternall life but his counsell was fitted to the present necessitie that is for feare of persecution it is not then to the purpose 2 Paul left this counsell free at their owne choise neither did he lay a snare on their cōsciences Wherein there is no agreement with the moonkish vowed chastitie 3. Christ Matthew 19 handleth nothing of the perfection of man but onely teacheth that
miracl●s done about the Masse 〈◊〉 seldome and those most false too the Papists at this day are ashamed of the books wherein those miracles are reported 2 The comming of Antichrist shall be with all power and signes and lying wonders 2 Thess 2 9 as Paul prophecied of him 3. Miracles without the word of God are not sufficient to prooue articles of religion as wee reade Deut 13 1 2 3. 27 Luther doth confesse the deuill suggested arguments vnto him against the masse Therfore to impugne the masse is diuelish Ans 1 Luther describeth the conflict of Luther dimis●a priuata his conscience wherein Satan after his manner laying a truth for his ground endeuoured to build thereupon falsehood and desperation Euen as the deuill tempting Christ alleadged the holy Scripture which vndoubtedly is true But it doth not therefore follow that simply euery thing is a lye which Satan bringeth in his tentations For when hee obiecteth our sinnes against vs certainely he speaketh a truth 2 We oppose not against our Aduersaries either the authoritie of Luther or the tentation of Satan but the Word of God Now the testimonies of Scripture which ouerthrow the masse cannot be termed deuilish suggestions Let them then answere vnto them if they can 28 Our Aduersaries seek a shift to wind themselues out of the danger of the thunderbolts of the Epistle to the Hebrues say that Christs bodie alwaies remaineth one therfore though it be daily offered yet it is alwaies the same and but one only and so it doth not anie waiet whart the Epistle to the Hebrues Answ 1. That is not the question whether Christs bodie be one and the same But here is the controuersie whether that bodie which is one and the same be often to bee offered to God seeing the Apostle to Hebrewes witnesseth that that bodie was once onely offered and that the offering thereof may not be iterated There is then no connexion of the Antecedent consequent in this paralogisme 2 But neither do they offer the same bodie of Christ which was offered vpon the Croffe but an other bodie which within a moment of time before was breade if all bee true which they faine of Transsubstantiation But the true bodie of Christ was not breade Therefore neither doo they offer one and the same body of CHRIST An appendix of other abuses of the Masse The followers of Antichrist have transformed 1 Abuse priuate masse the Masse into a priuate action wherein there is no communion but the masse-maker onely receiueth the sacrament whilest others that be present onely looke on who are perswaded that such a masse benifitteth them neucrthelsse though they communicate not But wee reject this priuate masse fos these reasons Because the Lords supper by those priuate masses which neuer were instituted by Christ is changed into an action altogether diuerse and different from the first institution Christ gaue not onely a bare spectacle to his disciples in his first supper but distributed his bodie and bloud to them to be eaten and druncken Priuate masses therefore haue no agreement with the action of Christ That appellation of the Lords Supper vsed by the Apostles the breaking of breade which is nothing els but by a hebrue phrase the distribution of it sheweth that in the primitiue Church in the celebration of the supper there was a communicating that priuate masse was altogether vnknowen The same is meant by the wordes of Paul we are all partakers of the same bread 1 Cor 10 17 If the Corinthians were partakers then doubtles they were not bare beholders of some priuate masse That which Paul speaketh of the abuse of the Supper among the Corinthians euery man taketh his owne supper afore one is hungrie and an other is drunke 1 Corin. 11 21. May not vnfitly be applyed to the priuate masse for a certaine likenesse betwixt them For what more like to this abuse than is the priuate masse wherein the looker on hungreth the masse-maker hath his priuate banquet though he be not drunken vnlesse perhaps of the former dayes ryot Contrariwise our aduersaries do dispute 1 There is mention made of a priuate communion euen in the histories of the primitiue Church Ans 1 Priuate communion at that time was a thing much differing frō priuate masse now a dayes For from the beginning whilest persecution did still rage and the Christians were therfore inflamed with great zeale the whole Church did vse to celebrate the Supper euerie day But after persecution ceased the zeale of Christians was by little and little abated so that afterwards they did cōmunicate onely vpon the Lords day In the meane while they of the cleargy and the ministers of the Church kept the custome of the dayly communion And this Communion when they of the laitie were absent began to be called a priuate Communion and that which was celebrated on the Lords day was called a publicke Cōmunion It is therefore a frivolous argument altogether frō the purpose whilest our Aduersaries argue from the priuate receiuing of the Lords supper to the priuate sacrifices of the Masse so making foure termes 2 Those which are the lookers on in priuate masse do communicate spiritually Therfore they want not the fruite of the masse Ans 1. We speake of the sacrament and sacramental eating our Aduersaries alleadge spirituall eating There are therefore in this argument foure termes 2 That spirituall communion may bee by faith alone euen out of the masse and communion Therefore it is nothing to the masse 3 This is the nature of the ministerie that the benefits of God bee by it applyed vnto men But priuate masse is a part of the ministerie Therfore by it there is application Made to the standers by Ans 1 The minor proposition is fal●● It suffiseth not that a Preacher preach to himselfe without hauing any hearers so neither sufficeth it that the masse-maker alone communicate for others becavse our aduersaries cannot free their publicke masse much lesse their priuate masse from idolatrie and how shall idolatrie then be a part of the ministerie 2 Sacramentall application doth not consist in a bare spectacle but in the vse and fruition as it is not sufficient to saluation that an vnregenerate man bee a beholder of Baptisme vnlesse himselfe also bee baptized 4 Priests that doe masse are the mouth of the Church Therefore if the Priest communicate it is all one as if the whole Church had communicated Ans 1 The Antecedent hath no ground in the scripture 2 Neither doo the Papists themselues belieue this which they say otherwise the priuate cōmunion of the Priest would bee sufficient for thē that they should neuer haue neede of anie publicke communion 3 The mouth of the Church should bee an impure one when the Priest is polluted with adulterie whoredome and such other wickednesse The Priests in the Olde Testament did sacrifice for others the laitie being present so in priuate masse the
Latine tongue neither will they not therefore deride it too If when the whole Church is come together in one all speak stārge languages that is if nothing be done in the vulgar tonge there come in they that are vnlearned or they which beleeue not will they not say that ye are out of your wits as Paul saith 1 Cor. 14 23. Note that what is here spoken of the saying of Masse in Latine may also bee vnderstood of praiers rehearsed in Latine onely It is an abuse of the Masse also that they ● Abuse Masse for the dead offer the Masse not so much for the living as for the dead residing as the Papists thinke in Purgatorie and that they perswade them selues that the Masse doth profit the dead and that they are helped by the multitude of Masses the vanitie whereof how great it is shall bee declared afterward in the question of Purgatorie and therefore we will surcease from that labour now let it suffice that wee haue rehearsed now some fewe errors and abuses of the Masse in steede of many CHAP. 18. Of Communion vnder one kind● THE Antichrist of Rome hath moreover mangled the holy Supper of Christ and hath bereaved the people of the one part or kind of the Supper namely the Cup which hee pretendeth to appertaine not to the lay people but to the Priests onely but wee greatly reproue this mangling of the Supper as a kinde of sacriledge and that for most iust reasons Because it doth directly oppugne the sacred first institution of the Supper by our Lord Iesus Christ 1. For Christ instituted an entire whole Sacrament consisting of two kindes or rather of two parts and not a maimed Sacrament 2. Neither did hee institute two Sacraments of the Supper whereof the one which is for the Priests should consist of two parts or as they speake of two kinds the other for the people but of one This maiming of the Supper is repugnant to the expresse words of Christs Commaundement 1. Drinke yee a word of the Imperatiue Moode all of this Math. 26. 27. 2. And all of them drank of it according to his commandement Mar. 14 23. This was not barely commanded but in the vertue of a Testament which no man may disanull 1. For the Cup which our Aduersaries bereaue the people of is the Cup of the new Testament 1 ●o● 11. 25. Luk 22 20. 2. This is my bloud of the newe Testament Math. 26. 28. Mark 14 24. The Lord tyed the commemoration of his death to the Communion of the holie Cup also therefore the commemoration of the bloud Christ shed belongeth equally vnto all and consequently the Cup also As Christ ordained the bread as a means to partake his body which was given for vs that receaving the bread according to his ordinance we should therewith by ●aith recea●e his body also so hath hee ordained the Cuppe as a meanes for receaving his bloud● therefore seeing the lay people haue neede to receaue the bloud of Christ shedd for their sinnes it is needefull also to receaue it in the Cup the ordinarie meanes thereof and not in the bread Those thinges which Christ by the great wisedome of his Father did sever from them selues in the bread and the wine those doe our Aduersari●s confound together It is prooued that the ancient and Primitiue Church did communicate vnder both ●indes 1. By the example of the Corinthians to Note The B b in the counsell of Constance cōsesse that the Cōmunion vnder one kinde was neither instituted by Christ nor vsed by the faithfull of the Primitiue Church those Papists the whom Paul prescribes the entire institution of the Supper equally to all 1 Corinth 11. 26 27 28. 2 By the Ecclesiasticall Histories in the times of the Fathers 3 By the confession of our Aduersaries in the Canons of the counsell of Constance which haue these words Though Christ did administer to his Disciples this venerable Sacrament vnder both the kindes of bread wine yet notwithstanding this the Communion vnder which would proue the Cōmunion vnder one kind by the Scripture doe reproue the counsell of Cōstance for a lie and doe hold that the Counsell may erre one kinde onely is to be held for a law And againe Although in the Primitiue Church this Sacrament was receaved of the faithfull vnder both kindes yet notwithstanding this the custome being brought in c. 8 Seeing therefore that the Communion vnder one kinde was neither ordained by Christ nor vsed of the Apostles this constitution of Communion vnder one kinde onely can neither be Divine nor Apostolick but Antichristian as having had no place in the Church of Christ for many hundred yeares And when as afterward it crept into the Church by little and little in some places not every where it was at length confirmed brought in publickly by the counsell of Constance The lightnes of those reasons which they bring for the mangling of the Supper ought This booke was published by Gerson in the yeare 1417. August 20. to make it iustly hated of godly men Now wee will very briefly note the reasons of the counsell of Constance as Gerson hath explaned them in a particular booke for that purpose and these be they 1 If the cuppe were granted to the people there were danger of sheading 2 Danger in carying it from place to place 3 In the si●●inesse of the vesselles which should bee Sacred and not commonly handled and touched by the Laickes 4 In mens long beards 5 In the reseruing of it for the sight For vineger might be generated in the vessell add moreouer that in summer time flyes might breed● in it some times the wine might pu●rifie 6 Manie would abhorre to drinke it when manie others had dr●nk● before them 7 In what vessell could there bee so much wine consecrated as would bee required at Easter time for some thousands of Cōmunicants 8 There would bee losse in the chargeable prouiding of wine For in some places it is hardly gotten other where it is sould deere 9 There would be danger least it should congeale 10 Hereof would arise a danger of a false conceit as if there were as great worthinesse in the Laickes about receiuing Christs body as is in the Priests 11 It would be thought that the Communion of the cuppe hath beene heretofore and now were necessarie and so all the Doctors of the Cleargie and the Prelates which haue not opposed themselues against the contra●ie custome by their pre●ching writing should haue offended 12 The power vertue of this sacrament would be deemed to be more in the receiuing than in the consecration of it 13 It woulde follow that the Church of Rome did not iudge soundly of the sacraments neither were herein to be imitated 14 It would follow that the Councell of Constance did erre in faith good manners 15 It would be● an occasion of Schismes in Christianity Had it beene
to the examples not the praiers of the saints whether euer God doe vse to afflict his saints so but here is nothing of intercession 3 Moreouer our Aduersaries confesse that there was no in●ocatiō of saints in the olde Testament 11 If there shall be an Angell speaking for him one of a 1000. to declare the righteousnes of man the Lord will haue mercy vpō him Iob 33 23 24. Ans 1. The Translation is bad which should be thus according to the hebrue verity If there be an Angel or messenger or prophe● with him an interpreter one of a thousand who may declare vnto man his righteousnes thē he wil haue mercy on him c. that is if he who is corrected of the Lord for his sin be admonished by an Angel or a faithfull prophet of the Lord of his righteousnes either of the Lords how iustly he punisheth him or of his own what he ought to do to amend his life he shall obtaine mercy Therefore this place is nothing at all to the purpose 12 Intercessions are commanded and approued of in the Church 1 Tim 2 1. Iam 5 14 c Paul desireth intercession Rom 15 30 Colos 4 3. Abraham prayeth for Abimelech Gen 20 17. The Lord biddeth Iobs friends to require his intercession Iob 42 8. Ans 1 To argue from the liuing to the deade i● to make foure termes 2 If the Saints pray neuer so much in generall for the Church yet they are not therefore to bee worshipped And whereas it standeth with reason that the Angells do pray for the Paul did not worsl●p or p●ay ●nto the Ro●●ans church yet they would not suffer themselues to be worshipped Reuel 19 10. 22. 8. 9. 3. To desire the prayers of other men aliue and to pray vnto are things very different 4 And it is a farre different thing to ioyne the prayers of manie men together whose prayers they beeing aliue we desire that the praier may be the stronger that is I say much different frō directing our praiers vnto them 13 The Saints departed are sayd to be aequall vnto the Angels Luke 20 36 But Angels doo from God know things present and things to come Therefore the Saints know the same also and so they know our prayers Ans 1 Christ maketh the comparison betweene the blessed Saints and Angels not in respect of their offices but in respect of thei● glorification and state of life in the other World wherein they shall haue no need of Matrimonie It is then a fallacie from a thing spoken but in part and some respect to the same taken absolutely 2 The office of Angells is to bee ministring spirits by reason Heb 1 of this office God doth many times reueale to the Angels things present things to come but neither dooth hee reueale all things nor alwaies Now because this office is neuer in Scripture giuen to the blessed soules departed doubtlesse the cause of this speciall reuelation beeing denied both the necessity and certaintie of their knowing our prayers and so of our praying vnto them is denyed 14 Elizeus though hee was absent yet by the spirit knew the actions of Gehazi 2 King 5 26. So the Saints in the spirit may know our praiers and our estate Ans Of pure particles nothing followeth Elizeus being absent saw the actions of Gehazi Therefore the Saints heare and see al things that are done vpon earth What foolery is this For it is neuer sayde in the Scripture that the deade doe in the spirit know our affaires as Elizaeus being aliue did know the deedes of Gehazi and that in a miraculous manner 15 The Saints do pray for the Church Reuel 5 8. and 8 3. Answer 1. In that vision it is not certaine that the speach is onely of the prayers of the Saints departed but in generall the praiers of the Church are pourtraied out by the 24. Elders 2. It is graunted that the Church triumphant doth in generall pray for the militant but that they do in particular pray for certaine and definite members thereof the Scripture sayth nothing of it 3 Neither is there any mention made of inuocation of Saints in the places cited Reuel 5 8. 16 Yea but the Scripture doth grant adoration to Creatures in their kinde As Abraham adored the Hittits Gen 23 7. Iacob worshipped Esau Genesis 33 3. Nathan did the like to Dauid 1 King 1 23. and Salomo● the King vnto his mother 1 King 2 19 c. Answer The Phrase is there a hebrue Phrase whereby an externall ceremony bowing of the body and ciuil reuerence is described but we speake of the inward spirituall affection deuotion of the heart Heere are therefore foure termes 17 There is one that accuseth you euen Moses c. Iohn 5 45. Therefore the Saints departed deale for and against the liuing Answ It is a figure called Metonymia whereby Christ signifieth not the person of Moses but his lawe 18 The rich glutton commeth not with his prai●● to God but to Abraham as to a mediator Luk. 16 24. Ans 1 Right We must forsooth learn the inuocation of Saints from the desperate damned soules 2 There is much difference betweene the parable of the glutton and the popish inuocation of Saints 3. These praiers got the g●utton nothing and so may the Papists speede 19 Onias and Ieremias appeared praying for the people 2 Maccab 15 12 13 14. Answ 1. The booke is Apocriphall 2 There is rehearsed a deame not an article of Religion 3 Wee doe not reade that the Iewes did for this dreame pray vnto Onias and Ieremias but they prayed vnto God 20 Heare now the prayers of the deade Israelites Baru●h 3 4. Answ 1 The booke is not canonicall 2 Lyra expoundeth it not of the prayer of the dead after their death but of those praiers which the Saints being aliue did long since before their death ●owre out vnto God for the preseruation of the Church 21 Miracles haue beeen done yet are done at the inuocation of Sainrs Answer 1 Miracles alone without the Word of God especially if they be contrary to the Word of God are not fufficient as God admonisheth that we should not belieue miracles without the word Deuter 13. 2 3 2 And the comming of Antichrist shall bee with lying Miracles 2 Thes 2 9. Reuel 13 13. QVESTION 3. Our Aduersaries denie that in worshipping images they doe commit idolatrie but the contrarie is proued by these reasons Let them Grāmatically expound the word Idolatry and they shall be able to make none other thing of it but a worship and seruice of Idols but that they worship and serue Idols no man can denie that hath but once in all his life entred into the popish temples It is proued by experience For they prostrate themselues before Idols pray before them adorne them they dedicate offerings vnto them light candles sigh vnto them c. And they worship one image of one Saint for example of
cannot be broken vpō any pre●ense of not being able to containe Answer 1 It cannot by any one word bee prooved that these widowes made vowes that they would not afterward marrie this place then is wrongfully wrested to Popish vowes of continencie 2 These widowes are not reproved for that they marrie but for that they secretly play the harlots and then seeke for marriage for a pretense to cover their naughtinesse 3 The first faith is not any vowe but the first faith that was given to Christ in Baptisme this is the first faith which they breake while they make the members of Christ the members of an harlot 4 And Paul biddeth these younger widowes marrie in the same place hee should then bid them breake their vowe if these widowes had made any vow which our Aduersaries will not willingly graunt 5 If this place be vnderstood of vowes it followeth against the Papists that they offend in laying vowes vpon thē which are not yet come to three●core yeeres of age for Paul would haue such chosen as be threescore yeeres old 4. The vowe which Priests make of chastitie is a free vow of their owne accord neither doth any man compell them to it Ans 1. This wee denie for those that will be admitted into holy Orders haue none other entrance but by vowing A man that is admitted if he marrie is removed from his calling and is punished in his body what a kinde of liberty is this It is therefore a loud lie 5 Paul 1 Timo. 4 1 3. doth not speake of the Pope that he holdeth the doctrine of Devils but he meaneth the Tatian● and Encr●ti●ae her●tikes Ans 1. Paul saith of them forbidding to marrie but the Pope forbiddeth to marrie therefore c. 2 It followeth not the Tatiani forbad marriage therefore the Pope which forbiddeth it too is not to bee reprooved There is the like iudgement of like things 3 Though the Pope doe not forbid mariage to all persons yet hee forbiddeth it and therefore hee is rightly condemned by Paul with the Tatiani and Encratitae CHAP. 22. Of the Popish Fastes IN this chapter the controuersie is not whether Christians ought to fast For none of our side doth denie that but the question is whether the popish fastes such as are in vse amongst our Aduersaries bee to be approued and necessarie to be obserued But because so many things meete together in the popish fastes which are repugnant to the holy Scripture let vs treate of them all seuerally 1 Error 1 And first of all our Aduersaries do place their fastes not in sobriety or temperance in meate and drink neither in a totall absta●ing from all meate and drinke for a certaine time which was vsed of the Auncients but in abstinence from flesh and white meates c. onely putting a difference betwixt meates And they presse that difference to be obserued with such seuerity that amongst them he is accounted to commit a more hainous crime who should taste flesh vpon the dayes forbidden than hee that should be taken in adulterie or other wickednesse And in some places especially of Italy and Spaine men are in greater danger for tasting flesh vpon the dayes inhibited than for committing capitall crimes Wee disallow and reiecte this obseruation and preposterous choise of meates for these reasons Because there is not any either commandement or example in the whole Scripture of the new Testament of this difference and choise of meates and therefore it is rightly reiected as a meere will-worship 1 Teach them to obserue all things that I haue commanded you Matt 28 20. 2 Of such like obseruations Christ sayth In vaine they worship mee teaching for doctrines mens precepts Matth 15 9. In the Newe Testament those Leuiticall differences of meates are taken away which after a sorte are brought in againe of our aduersaries 1 The things that God hath purified pollute thou not Act 10 15. 2 Whatsoeuer is set before you eate 1 Cor 10 27. 3 That which goeth into the mouth defileth not the man Matth 15 11. 4 Meate maketh vs not acceptable to God for neither if we eate haue we the more neither if we eate not haue we the lesse 1 Cor 8 8. 5 The Kingdome of God is not meate nor drinke but righteousnesse and peace and ioy in the Holy ghost Rom 14 17. 6 It is a good thing that the heart bee stablished with grace and not with meates which haue not profited them that haue beene occupied therein Heb 13 9. By this difference and choise of meates layed vpon the Church as if it were necessarie Christian libertie is impugned 1 In the latter times some shall departe from the faith and shall giue heede vnto spirits of errours and doctrines of deuills which speak lyes through hipocrisie and haue their consciences burned with an hote iron forbidding to marrie and commanding to abstaine frō meats which God hath created to be receiued with giuing thāks of thē that belieue know the truth for euery creature of God is good and nothing ought to bee refused if it be receiued with thankesgiuing 1. Tim 4 1 2. c. 2 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not let not him that eateth not iudge him that eateth Rom 14 3. 3 Let no man condemne you in meate or in drinke c. Colos 2 16. 4 If ye be deade with Christ from the ordinances of the World why as though yee liued in the World are ye burdened with traditions As touch not taste not handle not Which all perish with the vsing and are after the commandements doctrines of men which things haue indeed a shew of wisdome in voluntary religion and humblenes of minde and in not sparing the body neither haue they it in any estimation to satisfie the flesh Coloss 2 20 c. 5 Vnto the pure are all things pure Titus 1 15. 6 Whatsoeuer is soulde in the shambles eate yee and aske no question for conscience sake 1 Corinth 10 15. Contrariwise our Aduersaries doe reason 1 Obedience is due to the Church but the Chu●ch hath ordained such fasts Therefore c. Answer 1 In customes and indifferent ceremonies for orders sake obedience is to be performed to the Church but not in matters of necessity and articles of our beliefe vnlesse it be vpholden by the authority of the scripture whereof we haue spoken in the beginning of this booke Thither we referre the Reader 2 Neither is that rightly ascribed to the Church which is tyrannously obtruded to be obserued of Christians by superstitious men vnder the name of the Church 2 Hee that is weake eateth herbes Rom. 14. 2. Therefore the eating of flesh may rightly be forbidden for the weake ones sake Answ 1 Paul speaketh of those that be weake but the Church respecteth not the weake but onely their owne tyranny which they would establish by such superstitious precepts 2 Paul addeth presently vpon it let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not