CHAP. IX In which it is proued that no Sectary can be saued by beleeuing the chief heads of Religion IN the hartes of such as reuolte from truth there breedeth like a canker this cloaked Atheisme that it importeth little of what religion a man be of so he acknowledge one God receaue the Apostles Creed and beleeue to be saued by the merits of Christ An Atheisme I call it because it secretly tendeth to the vtter ouerthrow of all Christian fayth due worship of God The gainsaying of any one article disposeth to a plaine Apostacy denyal of all articles of fayth For as the taking away of a few stones by little and little disposeth to the ruine of a stately building so the remouall or not admittance of some points of fayth most dangerously maketh way to the denyall of all after which manner I shall demonstrate by by how that he which gaynesayth the least article of fayth hath quite lost hiâ— fayth without which it is impossible to please God But first I will begin with some other arguments 2. According to this Atheistical opinion that euery one may be saued in his owne sect the Pelagians Nouatians Donatists Eutichians Monothelites and sundry other plagues of the Church who imbraced the Trinity Incarnation Passion of Christ c. might be put in some hope of future happynes which no Christian I thinke will now confesse Likewise those sectaryes who after the definition of the Church maintayned S. Cyprians and other holy Bishops errour of rebaptization consorted with Catholiks in all other points of beliefe notwithstanding for that alone they were accounted heretikes and so depriued of the benefit of life Of whome Vincen. Lirinensis Vincen. adu prof haeret nouit maketh this exclamation O admirable change of thinges the Authors of one and the same opinion are esteemed Catholiks and their followers are iudged Heretikes Because they without breach of peace before the decree of the Church these after with proud stubbornes presumed to defend it 3. The Quartdecimani who liued about the yeare 186. beleeued all the substantiall heades of faith They beleeued whatsoeuer was publiquely taught receaued in the primitiue Church but only one particuler thing as it should seeme of small importance concerning the celebration of Euseb l. 5. c. 22. Nicep l. 4. cap. 39. the Feast of Easter whether it should be celebrated on the fourteenth Moone then the fast of Lent cease vpon whatsoeuer day it fell or vpon a Sunday according to the generall custome of Christians And yet for this only point they are enrolled in the catalogue of heretikes excluded here from the banquet of the Church supper of the lambe hereafter For S. Austine in his booke of heresyes Aug. haer 29. Epiphan 50. Hier. dial aâ—â—er Lucifer c. 1. Haereticos quoscumque christianos non esse Tit. 3. v. 10. rehearsing them by another name sundry more among whom many beleeued all the forenamed principles of religion he notwithstanding coÌ„cludeth of them the like other heresys besides these may be any one of which whosoeuer shall hold cannot be a Christian catholik S. Ierome presupposeth this as a certeine ground Heretikes whatsoeuer cannot be Christians bargayneth with his colloquutor to speake of an heretique as of a gentile S. Paul chargeth vs to shun the company of euery heretique in what point soeuer he runneth astray saying A man that is an heretique after the first second admonition auoyde knowing that he that is such a one is subuerted sinneth being condemned by his owne iudgment And he casteth all Gal. 5. v. 20. 21. sectaryes with fornicatours murderers and drunkards out of the kingdome of heauen 4. Moreouer the Donatists disagreed from the Catholique Church in a matter not specifyed in the Creed no nor expresly mentioned as S. Augustine auoweth in holy writ This sayth he neither you nor I do read in expresse wordes Aug. l. de vnit Eccl. c. 19. Aug. l. 1. cont Cres c. 33. Lib. 11. de baptis con Donat. c. 4. l. 5. cap. â—4 And in another place Although no example of this matter be found in holy scriptures yet doe we follow in this the truth of the scriptures when we do that which is agreeable to the vniuersall Church commended vnto vs by the authority of the same scripture Likewise The Apostles haue commaunded nothing concerning this matter But the custome which was alleadged against S. Cyprian is to be thought to haue descended from their tradition as diuers other things haue done which the vniuersall Church doth obserue are therefore with great reason beleeued to haue beene commaunded by the Apostles although they be not written So that the Donatistes alteration was about aâ— vnwritten verity They inuocated one God as S. Augustine affirmeth with him they beleeued in the same Christ Augu. in explicatione psal 54. they had the same gospell sung the like psalmes c. they agreed which him in baptisme in keeping the feasts of martyrs in celebrating of Easter In these sayth he they were with me yet not altogether with me in schisme not with me The belief of the Trinity other chiefe articles auayled not the Donatists because they denyed som vnwritten traditioÌ„s in heresy not with me in many thinges with me in a sew not with me these few in which not with me the many could not help them in which they were with me Behold the Donatists could not be holpen they could not receaue any benefit or fruit from God by beleeuing the Trinity the mediatioÌ„ of Christ the Creed the sacramentes the rest because they dissented from the Church in some few traditions not recorded in scripture can our sectaryes looke to enioy the treasures of life denying both vnwritten traditions diuers other articles cleerely expressed in holy writ as I haue proued in the two former partes of this treatise 5. Besides although the beleefe in God in Christ in the articles of the Creed were sufficient to saluation yet this beleefe ought to be one the same in all the faithfull for truth is one vniforme and constant falshood â—arious discordant chaungable But diuers sectes diâ—ersly vnderstand these heades of religion Therefore they â—â—nnot all haue the true vniforme and sauing faith To instance in the dissention of ProtestaÌ„ts from vs. They beleeue that their God doth truly purpose determine and The Protestants beliefe in God is not the same with the true beliefe of Catholikâ— â—o operate vnto sinne yet as a righteous Iudge not as an euill â—â—tâ—ur We beleeue that our true God no way at all with no right intention can concurre thereunto They beleeue a dissembling God with a twofold will one reuealed and detesting the other secret intending sinne We teach that our God hath but one will which wholy disliketh â—â— hateth sinne They beleeue a God so weake or vnmerâ—â—full as there be some sinnes he will
The Guide of Faith OR A THIRD PART OF THE ANTIDOTE AGAINST THE PESTIFEROVS WRITINGS OF ALL ENGLISH SECTARIES And in particuler agaynst D. BILSON D. FVLKE D. REYNOLDES D. WHITAKER D. FIELD D. SPARKES D. WHITE and M. MASON the chiefe vpholders some of Protestancy and some of Puritanisme VVherein the Truth and perpetuall Visible Succession of the Catholique Roman Church is cleerly demonstrated By S. N. Doctour of Diuinity 1. Tim. 3. vers 15. The Church of the Liuing God the Pillar and Ground of Truth Permissu Superiorum M. DC XXI TO THE KINGS MOST EXCELLENT MAIESTY MOST DREAD AND GRACIOVS SOVERAIGNE I know not to whome I should more fitly present these Disputes in matters of Controuersy then to your Highnes who hath Learning to vnderstaÌ„d Wisedom to discerne and Authority to commaund that Faith and Religion be obserued in your Realme which is most conformable to the Scriptures and consonant to the doctrine of the Primitiue Church to which you haue beene pleased long since to submit your Royall Iudgment now of late most prudently forbidden those newfangled writers who spurning at the Testamentes of their Forefathers call the Beliefe of all Antiquity in question Therefore I haue heere laid open to your Princely View that vnspotted truth which the Lambe of God deliuered vpon earth which the Apostles preached and committed to writing which the Auncient Fathers in the first fiue hundred yeares sincerely taught and inuiolably manteyned as I proue not only by their owne irrefragable testimonies but by the confession also of the Aduerse Part which if your Gracious Clemency would giue vs leaue vnder your fauourable winges peaceably to enioy and freely to professe at least in secret without the offence of any it must needes oblige vs more fast to our dutifull Allegiance of which howsoeuer in our greatest extremities we shall neuer be wanting then all the lawes of Conformity Oathes of Fidelity or other Punishments can inforce For what more sure band then the tye of Conscience the obligatioÌ„ of Religion the seale of Fayth and promise we owe to God which being truly kept as our Catholike Profession strictly bindeth vs no daunger of Treason no fewell of Sedition no alienation of Minds from Prince or Countrey can be feared On the contrary side if those heauenly bandes be once violated by any in taking an Oath hurtfull to their conscience preiudiciall to their Religion what trust or security can be reposed in them what hope of fidelity in ciuill affayres who in matters diuine in the most weighty affayres of their Souls haue openly committed the deepest disloyalty Wisely was this obserued by Princes in former tymes When Hunnerike the King of the Vandalls had guilefully proposed an Victor Vticen lib. 3. de persec Vandal paulo post initium entrapping Oath to the Catholique Bishops of Africk those who refused to take it he presently banished from their Seas as enemyes to the Crowne Such as condescended to his will and bound themselues by oath to performe his desire he mistrusting their fidelity commaunded likewise to depart from their Churches and neuer to see them more because contrary to the law of God or commaundement of his Ghospell they presumed to sweare A subtile yet pernicious deuise More coÌ„mendable was the fact of Theodorike Nicepho l. 16. c. 35. Zonaras Cedrenus Theod. lect 2. collectan King of the Gothes Conquerour of Italy For when a fauourite of his very deare vnto him to be more endeared fell to Arianisme which the King imbraced he straight way commaunded him to be beheaded with this cause of condemnation pronounced agaynst him How should I look thou shouldest be true to me a man since thou hast not beene faythfull in thy promise to God Eusebius l. c. 12. de vi Const Zoâ—om l. 1. bist c. â— But most prudent and fittest for my purpose was that of Constantius Father to Constantine the Great Who to discouer the harts and affections of his Subiectes caused it to be promulgated to all of his Court at home Family abroad that free choice liberty was graunted theÌ„ either by sacrificing to the Idols to continue his Fauour enioy their woÌ„ted honours or spoyled of them to leaue his Pallace his friendship familiarity for euer HereupoÌ„ when his Nobles other of his retinue had parted theÌ„selues into two seuerall companies the one yielding the other renouÌ„cing to sacrifice the wise Prince sharply rebuked their timidity basenes who were ready to prostitute themselues tovile Idolatry for preseruing of their temporal dignityes exceedingly commended the Constancy noble Resolution of the others who rather chose to forsake their preferments theÌ„ their religioÌ„ The former he cassiered as Traitours to God and vnworthy his Imperial Seruice For how sayd A notable saying of of Constantius Father to Constantine the Great his fact ensuing as worthy he can they keep their fayth inuiolable to the Emperour of the earth who by so manifest a signe haue shewed theÌ„selues perfidious to the great Monarch of Heauen These therfore he reiected banished his Royal pallace Those who by such an apparent triall profession of Truth were fouÌ„d worthy of God he adopted into the number of his dearest most familiar friendes those he placed about him as GardiaÌ„s of his person those he more esteemed then Exchecquers ful of inestimable treasures affirming that they who had been so loyal vnto God would be most faythfull also and loyall vnto him O that your Princely WisdoÌ„ would imitate herin the Father whose soÌ„ne you worthily praise set before your Royall eyes as a president to behould in the supreme Gouernement of your Soueraigne Estate I would to God you would as you may securely make the like account of such coÌ„stant Recusants who vpon iust feare of offending God forbeare to yield in points of Faith to the lawes of meÌ„ I would their Dutifull Hearts were so well knowne vnto your Highnes as their cause deserueth Then with that famous Constantius you would might iustly esteeme theÌ„ as the true Friends of God Souldiers of Christ Treasures of your Kingdome Suppliants for safety surest Guards of your Crown and Scepter In whose persons I humbly prostrate my selfe at your Maiesties féete beseeching the diuine Maiesty so to prosper your earthly Raygne as after many happy yeares of peaceable gouernement you may passe from this Transitory to his Eternall Kingdome Your Maiesties most humble and deuoted Subiect S. N. THE EPISTLE TO THE READER I Haue often heard this principle recorded by Aristotle much celebrated amongst Deuines Quierrat ad pauca respicit He that erreth looketh into few thinges Which A principle of Aristotle notably verified in our moderne ProtestaÌ„ts learned axiome of so graue a Philosopher the temerity of Protestants teacheth to be true For they with partiall eye haue regard to few thinges when in matters of fayth abandoning al autenticall proofes and argumentes of credibility renouncing so many
approued miracles historyes prescriptions so many infallible traditions testimonyes of truth they betake theÌ„selues to the Scriptures alone to the maine Ocean of Propheticall and Apostolical writings without carde to direct them or pilot to guide them in that sea of difficulties They looke into few thinges when rowing there they passe ouer innumerable euident texts which make against them and take hold of some one which carryeth a little shew and semblance of countenauncing their fancyes For example they once read in S. Matthew The Lord thy God shalt thou adore and Matt. c. 4. v. 10. him only shalt thou serue And without further consideration of what homage he speaketh they peremptorily condemne all religious worship and adoration of Angells of Saints of their tombes reliques so often intimated in other places They once read in S. Iohn It is the spirit that quickneth the flesh profiteth nothing and thereupon they depriue their owne soules of the inestimable profit of Christs viuificall Ioan. 6. v. 63. and reall flesh in the sacrament of the Altar notwithstanding it be constantly auouched by the Apostle by S. Iohn all the rest of the Euangelists They once read That Christ is the propitiation for our sinnes That he paid for vs a full and perfect ransom 1. Ioan. 2. v. 2. and they deny all Canonicall or voluntary satisfactions all workes of pennance or expiations of sinne to which the Holy Ghost very often most earnestlâ— exhorteth vs. The like vnaduised and precipitate rashnes I might note in all other articles in which they swarue from vs but it shall be inough to specify it further in their chiefest article of iustification Hosius l. 1. de haeresibus nostri temporis citatur apud Prateolum verb. lustificatorij Gen. â—5 ad Rom. 4. Rom. 5. v. 19. wherein they are so headlong as no sooner do they find any one word sounding to their purpose but they obstinatly cleaue sticke fast vnto it For one Protestant readeth as Hosius diligently pursueth this matter Abraham belieued and it was reputed vnto him for iustice And thence he gathereth his imputatiue iustice by only faith Another readeth we are iustified by his blood he inferreth that the pretious bloud of Christe is our iustice Another readeth As by the disobedience of one man many were made sinners so also by the obedience of one many shall be made iust he faineth Christs obedience to be the garment of our iustice Another readeth he rose for our iustification and he Rom. 4. v. 25. accounteth Christs resurrection our heauenly vesture Another readeth The holy Ghost shall argue the world of iustice because I goe vnto my Father and he Ioan. 16. v. 8. 9. straight way affirmeth Christs passage to his Father to be our robe of righteousnes Thus they deuise aboue Prateolus in elencho verbo lustificatorij twenty seuerall opinions of that one substantiall point of Iustification alone Againe they looke into few thinges not only in adhering but chiefly in expounding such particuler passages as they first light vpon for neglecting the publique spirit voyce of God which speaketh in his Church neglecting the generall tribunall and consistory of the world they hearken only to the outward letter and to the priuate spirit which resideth in themselues by them only they interprete and by them only they will be tryed whether their interpretatioÌ„ be good or no. As if a theefe accused of felony would deliuer his owne tale as he frameth it ProtestaÌ„ts are fitly compared to the guilty person who admitteth no triall but his owne and admit no examination of witnesses no tryall of iury or sentence of iudge no former presidents or decisions of like case but his owne information voyce of his Soueraigne diuulged in his law which he maketh to sound as himselfe liketh best were not this to stop his eares against all testimonies but his owne to refuse all triall or iudgment which he himselfe being guilty doth not pronounce and yet such is our aduersaryes dealing They expound Scripturs as their secret spirit in wardly perswadeth them and they will trye their spirit by no other touchstone then by the publique word of God interpreted by themselues We appeale to the iudgment of the present Catholik Church they contemne her sentence we ascend to our Ancestours that haue gone before vs they cut off at one clappe the vsage practise and prescription of a thousand yeares space we repaire to the Doctors Fathers of the primitiue Church to the generall Councels and their authenticall decrees to the very sentences of Scripture explayned by them they regard them not any further then they agree in their opinion with the word of God At last we sommon them to their owne Court we presse them with the authority of Protestant writers they answere they were men they might erre no man is bound D. VVhit defens tractat 3. c. 7. to follow them any further then they follow the truth And so these new Reformers will iudge alone what is truth and who are followers and imbracers of it The common shift of Protestants in answering their own writers alleadged against theÌ„ They looke into few things when challenging at least in outward shew one or two they despise all other Sacraments of God ancient ceremonyes of the Church When pleading for fayth alone they gayne say the valew of workes and supernaturall dignity of infinite vertues When scandalized at the licentiousnes of some dissolute liuers in the Catholik Church they admire not the heriocall acts and resplendent sanctity of so many zealous Prelates deuout Priestes Religious Friers Monkes Nunnes and whole armies of Saints which flourish therein When dismayed with the faygned impossibility of keeping Gods Commandements they lift not vp their eyes to his Euangelicall Counsels and workes of supererogation When dazeled with the Sunne of Christs glorious morits they see not the beames of light and aboundant merits he deriueth vnto vs. They see not the efficacy of his sacraments the dowryes of his grace the full indulgence and remission of our sinnes the inherent beauty and splendour of iustice by which he garnisheth vpon earth the soules of his seruants They looke into few thinges in perusing the ancient Fathers When reading in S. Augustine for example That he is a miracle who seeketh for miracles August l. 22. de c uit Dei cap. 8. to belieue they conclude thereupon that all miracles haue ceased not weighing the occasion of S. Augustines wordes not attending to the miracles which in the same Chapter he mentioneth to haue beene S. Ciprian serm de lapsis post medium S. Gregor Nazian in laudem Cypriani Demonum profligationem morborum dâ—pulsionem futuram rerum praescientiam quae quidem omniuÌ„ vel â—ineres ipsi Cypriani modò fides adsit efficiunt Vide etiam illum in funere patris Chrysost l. cont Gentiles Quotidiana â— Martiribus miracula eduntur Hieron
by reason of the iust and vertuous who are the principall portion of the Church albeit she abound with too many Hypocrites and therfore vseth these words of her selfe Cant. 1. I am blacke but fayre Blacke through the multitude of sinners faire through the beauty of the iust She did not say as S Augustine noteth I haue beene blacke like the tabernacles Augu de doct Chri. l. 3 c. 3â— of Cedar I haue beene faire like the skins of Salomon but both â—he auoucheth her selfe to be by reason of the temporall vnity and coniunction of good and euill fishes within the same net 7. How can they say the aduersaryes againe be The 2. obiection members of Christ who are slaues of sinne and seruants of the Diuell I answere they may be slaues of sinne in one respect and dead members of Christ in another they may outwardly belong to him and inwardly to Sathan August in psal 47. witnes S. Augustine who sayth They who participate of the sacraments and want good manners are sayd to be Gods not to be Gods They are sayd to be his and to be as strangers his for the forme and shew of prety not his for the losse of vertue or his nâ—merâ— non meritâ— that is his by tale and account not his by worth or merit In another place the same S. Augustine Of the holy Church euery De vnitat Eccless c. 1â— Christian acknowledgeth it to be spoken as the lilly amongst thornes so my beloued amongst daughters VVherefore doth he call them thornes But for the malignity of their manners VVherefore daughters but for the communion and participation of sacraments Therfore wheÌ„ S. Augustine or others deny the wicked to be members of Christs Church they meane they are not liuely but dead and withered members like ill humours superfluous excrements putrified and decaied parts which so long cleane vnto the body of man vntill they be separated oâ— câ—t away who although they partake not the benefit of life although they reape no fruit themselues by reason of their society communication with the iust yet the holy Ghost may vse their office and iurisdiction if they enioy any to the profit and commodity of his seruants 8. Other obiections they make some out of scripture some out of S. Augustine where the predestinate are The third obiection Ioan. 10. 11. 2. Tim. out of Augu. l. 5. c. 27. de bapt cont Donat. l. de correp gra c. 9. called the sheep of Christ sonnes of God before they be called and whilest they remayne blinded with errour I answere one may be the sonne of God either formally according to present grace or finally according to the prescience and predestination of God The scriptures S. Augustine call them sheep and sonnes not after the formâ— but after the later manner After which sort S. Augustine often denyeth the iust not predestinate to be either members sonnes or sheep of Christ but rather goats or wolfes because God foreseeth that for want of perseuerance to such finall misery they will precipitate themselues His wordes are these According to prescience and predestination Augu. tract 45. in Ioan. how many sheep without how many wolfs within c. VVhat is that I haue sayd how many sheep without How many liue wantonly how who will becom ChristiaÌ„s how many blaspheme Christ who shall belieue in Christ c. And how many prayse God within who will blaspheme him are chast and will play the wantons are sober and will be heereafter ouercharged with wine stand and will fall they 2. Tim. 2â— v. 18. are not shee For I speake of the predestinate of them I speake whom our Lord knoweth who be his So he Auouching plainely that many reprobate be with in the precinctes of the Church by profession of fayth although they be without in forefight of God and diuers of the predestinate without by conuersation peruersity of manners who are notwithstanding within in the hidden prescience and decree of his election and will in due tyme by reall admission retire themselues to the campe of his chosen flocke CHAP. II. VVherein is discussed whether the Church be one or many one visible which we ought to obey another inuisible which we ought to bâ—lieue against D. Whitaker and D. Fulke ALBEIT M. Field distasting the doctrin of his maisters who faign two distinct seuerall Churches laboureth with all art to gloze their sayings writh them to some right construction yet the words of VVhitaker no art can delude Field in his first booke chap. 10. VVhitak cont 2. q. â— cap. 14. fol. 125. no dawbing hide no cunning ouercast Heare him speake VVe say quoth Whitaker ther are two societyes of men in the world that is two Churches c. To the one the predestinate belong To the other the reprobate The same he prosecuteth in diuers places both before and after affirming one of these Churches to be wholy inuisiâ—â—â— the Cont. 2. q. 2. c. 1. q. 1. c. 3. 7. 8. 19. q. 4. c. 1. 3. â—ther visible The one comprising the sole company of elect the other consisting of good and bad mingled togeather the one against which no tentation no persecution no not the gates of hell can preuaile the other which may perish decay be drowned with errours and â—uerwhelmed with tempests That only he supposeth to be holy and Catholike this not so that knowne to God alone this also to men that the true Church mentioned in the Creed which Ibid q. 1. c. 13. q 2. c. 1. Quaest 4. c. 3. Fulke in c. 3. Matth. sect 3. in c. 22. Matt. sect 2. Cant. 6. Ioan. 10. 1. Cor 12. 1. Cor. 10. Ephes 5. Ibid. Aug. in illud psal 21. we are taught to belieue this the outward assembly whose communion we ought to obserue whose commandments to follow To be briefe the former he seuereth into two parts into the triâ—mphant and militant c. In the triumphant sayth he are only good no reprobate so likewise in the militant the triumphant is inuisible the militant also inuisible The later he deuideth into sundry particuler Churches as into the Church of England Geneua Zurike c. of which he composeth one â—â—iuersall visible Church This is VVhitakers confused Church â—hich Fulk his collegue following Caluin in many points â—tifly maintayneth against the whole current of holy Scriptures 2. For they euery where inculate one Church one spouse one campe one heauenly city house of God The holy ghost in the Canticles sayth vna est columba mea me is my done Christ maketh it one fould S Paul VVe are all baptized into one body And when he speaketh of the Church he vseth alwayes the singular number Be with out offence to the Churche of God This is a great sacrament I say in Christ in his Church Againe Husbandes loue your wiues as Christ also loueth his Church S.
that the Church ought to be conspicuous Who is seconded also by M. Field That there is and alwayes hath beene a visible Church and that not consisting of some few scattered Christians without order of Ministry or vse of sacramentes we do most willingly yeald vnto But how many more will yeald besides you hauing no rule of agreement so strangely dissent in euery assertion as I know not who els will subscribe hereunto Sure I am that VVhitaker as mainly contradicteth it as words can expresse saying The Church may sometimes consist of a few and they scattered obscure vnknown who hide themselues in corners Therefore he answereth to the former testimonyes of scripture that many promises are made of the glory splendour of the Church vnder the Messias but none that the state of the Church should be perpetually such For it may come to passe that no true visible Church may be found out in the world Perkins sayth in his exposition of the Creed Before the dayes of Luther for the space of many hundred yeares an vniuersall apostacy ouerspread the whole face of the earth Fulke There was a certaine generall apostacy of the visible Church And a litle before The reuolt spoken of before by S. Paul is called by Caluin A certeine generall defection of the visible Church which being hardly builded was by the tyranny subtilty of Antichrist ouerthrowne as a house with a suddaine tempest and lay long in the ruines Againe The visible Church may become an adultersse Fulk in his answere to a counterfet Catholike p. 79. VVilet in his Synop. pa. 54. Sparkes in his answer to M. Iohn d' Albins pag. 53. 54. 126. c. A grosse absurd answere of one whoÌ„ the Lord de la Ware brought to dispute with a Catholik GentlemaÌ„ be diuórced from Christ. M. VVillet D. Sparkes hâ—ue many sayings to the like purpose By which M. Field may see how farre his fellowes are from agreeing with him or yeilding to vs in this substantiall point of faith especially they who pressed to describe where their Church hath held the scepter of her raign in former ages retire to the hidden story of inuisible conuenticles as a Puritan Champion of my Lord de la VVares did in a set conference appointed by him others for the discouery of truth who being vrged by a Catholique gentelman that the Protestant Church could not be true because it hath not alwayes continued since Christ his time not alwayes visible as he then disputed nor alwayes inuisible nor sometime visible sometime inuisible The Lords Champion answered that it continued sometime inuisible To which the Catholique replyed that during the time in which it was inuisible it could not be the Church of Iesus Christ for he argued thus That is the true Church of Iesus Christ which he comaundeth vs to obey and pumsheth vs if we obey not But he cannot commaund vs to obey an inuisible Church nor punish vs if we obey it not Therefore an inuisible Church cannot be the true Church of Iesus Christ He might haue asked him of whome his inuisible church consisteth of men or Diuels Fayries Goblins or what other night-Ghostes who would not be seene or heard to speake God not excused from tyranny by the Protestants answere The Minor denyed was proued in this manner God cannot commaund much lesse punish vs for a thing vnpossible But it is vnpossible to heare vnpossible to obey an inuisible Church Therefore God can not commaund much lesse punish vs for not obeying an inuisible Church 4. Here the defendant granted that God commaunded a thing impossible and punished men for not performing that which was impossible whereupon when the disputant inferred That God must needes be in that case a tyrant in punishing without desert he after much stammering strugling which himselfe answered No because that impossibility fell out by their owne default At which reply the Minister his assistant began to leap for ioye brake off the dispute without more ado as if the Argument had beene satisfied or the diuine goodnes exempted from prodigious cruelty by a fault of his creatures which when they incurred no man knowes nor can yet deuise what fault it should be nor why the harmeles of spring should be euerlastingly tormeÌ„ted for their predecessours offence of eclipsing the Church and making The Lord de la War his false report vaine boasting of a disput held betwixt a Catholik a Protestant in his owne presence Melanct. D. Humf. D. Field in the places aboue cited it inuisible which they neither actually committed by their owne proper will nor originally contracted from the will of another Yet such answeres run currant in Protestants iudgments the good Lord himself was not ashamed vauntingly to report that his defendant departed enobled with victory when he flinched away notoriously disgraced with the ignominious blot of one most monstruous absurdity euen in Melancthons D. Humfreys M. Fields diuinity court that the ProtestaÌ„ts Church was sometimes inuisible and another vnauoidablâ— blasphemy in the high tribunall seat of all Diuines thaâ— God doth command and eternally punish vs for not performing thinges impossible 5. Both these odious barbarismes the Puritan welâ— perceaued and although as he ignorantly or vnaduisedly rowled into theÌ„ so he vaingloriously after the fashion of heretikes defended them for a while yet immediatly after at the same conference the same argumeÌ„t being proposed by another he durst not stand to the same manner of answering as I shall heere relate At the closing vp of the former dispute another learned Catholike entred the roome and being vrged to alleage some reasons why the English Protestant Church could not be the true Church of Iesus Christ not hearing what had passed before he thus began THE CATHOLIKE The true Church of Christ hath alwayes perseuered 〈…〉 Church haâ—h not alwaye◠〈◊〉 Therefore the English Church is not the true Church of Chrisâ— THE PVRITAN I deny the Minor I say the English Church hath alwayes preseuered THE CATHOLIKE I take the tyme from Gregory to Luther for the space of 900. yeares If your Church was extant in these ages either is was visible or inuisible but neither can be sayd Therefore it was not then extant THE PVRITAN I answere it was visible as it appeareth out of M. Foxes Chronicle in which the Actes and monuments of our Church in all those ages are recorded and wherein it is cleerely demonstrated that some egreâ—ious Martyrs and confessours of our Church flourished in euery Counâ—â—ey who couragiously opposed themselues against the Roman errours 〈◊〉 superstitions Behould the inconstancy of this fellow who first â—raunted that the Protestant Church was sometyme inuisible and scant hauing breathed since he defended it to haue beene in euery age or Countrey visible from S. Gregory to Luther For when was is latent When inuisible If in none of those ages Before S. Gregory you all confesse it was conspicuous although
what is this field in which the cockle groweth with the wheate the reprobate with the elect â—ut the visible Church of Christ In which visible pastors shall plante water sow the seed of heauenly doctrine visible flocke shall increase fructify by in ward faith outward profession outward obedience outward subordination and comunication of sacramentes vntill the end of all thinges notwithstanding if any here expound with the Donatistes the Field for the world not for the Church I answere him with S. Augustine The world is named put for the Church because the Aug. post collat c. 6. cap. 8. church is foreshewed that it shal be dispersed throughout the worlde which he proueth by these euident textes of holy scripture God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself who truly quoth he recoÌ„ciled not any but his Church vnto him And then The sonne of man came not to iudge the worlde but 2. Cor 5. v. 19. Ioan. 3. v. 17. that the world might be saued by him howbeir he saued none but the faithful of his Church Therfore by the world his Church is vnderstood 3. I hope you will not cauill againe That although the seed be visibly sowed in all the world yet it shall not visibly so continue Yf you do the voyce of our Sauiour cryeth against you That it shall grow vnto the haruest which cannot be without the visible ministry of pastors submission of people without the visible preaching conuerting of natious Likewise S. Augustine beateth back this obiection made by the Donatistes both by this very place of S. Matthew by that of S. Paule to the Collossians The truth of the gospell is in the whole world and fructifyeth and groweth euen as in you alleaging Coloss 1. v. 5. â— these passages especially the former disputeth thus VVhat new doctrine doe you preach vnto vs VVhat is the good seed Aug. de vnit Eccl. c. 17. to be sowed againe whereas since it was first sowed it increaseth vntill the haruest if you say it hath perished in those places wherein it was first sowed by the Apostles and therefore ought to be sowed againe out of Affrike out of Germany by Luther out of The like he hath de vnitat Eccles cap. 15. France by Caluin read vs this out of Gods diuine oracles which truly you cannot read vnles you first conuince that to be false which is written the seed there sowen increaseth and fructifieth euen vntill the haruest Eusebius Caesariensis Cyrillus Alexandrinus S. Ambrose S. Ierome confirme the same in most plaine termes but none better then my forenamed S. Augustine De vnit Eccl. c. 25. Euseb Cesar de Demon. Euan. l. 4. c. 9. Cyril Alex. l. 5. in Isa c. 54. Amb. l. 4. HexaÌ„ c. 2. Ierom. in c. 4. Isa Aug. in psal 101. conc 2. Aug. ibid. Augu. in eundem psaâ—m who in another place exclayming against the former cauillation of our Reformers prosecuteth it thus The Church which was of all nations now is not it hath perished this they say who are not in it O impudent speach she is not because thou art not in her Beware therefore least thou art not For she shal be although thou be not This abhominable and detestable speach full of presumption falsity vnder propped with no truth enlightned with no wisedome seasoned with no salt vaine temerarious rash pernicious the spirit of God foresaw disproueth according to him by many testimoÌ„ies of scripture by which he witnesseth the continuance of the Church in the vniuersall world vntill the consummation of all things wherupon he concludeth VVhat is this thou sayest the Church to haue perished out of all nations when as to this end the gospell is preached that it may be in all nations Therfore euen to the end of the world the Church is in all nations this is the shortnes of her dayes Which he auoucheth not of the inuisible but of that visible Church in which Emperours promulgate lawes against heretikes oâ— that Augu. de vnit Eccl. c. 25. non aliqua terrarum parte sed vbique notissima est church which assembleth people into one of that which draweth kingdoms to serue our Lord of that which preacheth the ghospell in the whole world in testimony of al natioÌ„s of that which not in any part of the earth but euery wher is most known of that which is so huge a mountain as it spreâ—eth it self ouer all the earth they are blind who do not see so great a mountain who shut their eyes against a candle placed vpon a caÌ„dlestik Of that wherof he writeth how wilt thou beleeue Christ whom August tom 9. in ep Ioan. Tract 1. 2. item epist 166. thou seest not if thou beleeue not the Church which thou seest 4. But let this sauage fiction take place that the visible society of Gods children hath perished the kingdome of Christ hath beene ouerthrowne as Caluin doteth religion abolished the Church destroyed and all hope of saluation vtterly extinguished Let it be that all the fountaines of Gods word Calu. in resp ad Sadol haue beene stopped the diuine light wholly put out in so much as no sparke there of hath remayned From whence then I pray did â—â—otestantes receaue the light of their gospell By whome The Apology of the Church of England f. 4. 5. 6. Were they instructed in faith fed with the milke nourished with the food of celestiall doctrine by scriptures But fayth is by hearing neither do the Scriptures expound themselues or expresse the meaning of their hidden misteryes but euery where sendes vs to our pastours and teachers to heare from their mouthes sucke from their lippes the streames of life yea Caluin himself sayth Because sayth is by hearing there wil be no sayth vnles there be some Cal. in 1. ad Tim. 3. v. 15. that preach Who preached then to Luther Who to Zuinglius Or to any other Protestant when he first began How crept they into the world Children without parents Schollers without Maisters With this argument S. Augustine triuÌ„phed against the Donatists If the Church was not c. From whence is Donatus or Luther come vnto vs Out of what soyle is he sprung Out of what sea hath he peept From what Augu. l. 3. de Bapt. cont Don. c. 2. Lib. 3. c. 2. cont epist Parm. heauen is he fallen Againe VVhy do you labour in vaine VVhy doe you boast that you haue a Church if the Church in former tymes hath perished Let them tell me by whome Maiorinus or Donatus Luther or Caluin were begotten that by them Parmenian and Priminianus Lutherans and Caluinists might be borne c. But if not finding hâ—â— they might haue their beeing of them selues let them cease to bragge that the Church hath remayned with them which they affirme to haue wholy perished in former dayes 5. Lastly they that admit a defection of
the Church do not only despoyle themselues of the benefit of sanctification and fruit of new birth but robbe Christ of his glory as S. Augustin affirmeth bereaue him of his inheritance August De vnitat Eccle. c. 12. 13. de ciuit Dei l. 20. c. 8. in Psal 85. 60. 70. Hier. dial aduer Lucifer cast him out of his possession defeate him of the whole price ransome and purchase of his precious bloud and passion And S. Hierome sayth that impious speach of the Churches fayling doth euacuate the crosse of Christ and maketh the Sonne of God subiect to the Diuell it plucketh him as it were from the right hand of his Father and casteth him downe from his throwne of blisse for as longe as he is exalted aboue the heauens so long the glory of his Church is ouer all the earth according to the fornamed S. Augustine his most learned discourse 6. But what is that which dusketh the eyes of our Aug. in psal 56. Reformers from discerning this perpetuall lustre euer florishing state of Gods eternall City It is the thicke and misty Web of some peruerted places of Scripture which they detorte to their owne perdition as that the visible Church was wholy hidden in the dayes of Elias when he lamented the slaughter of the Prophets in the persecution of Iesabell and sayd I am left alone and although God answered I will leaue in Israel seauen thousand men whose knees haue not beene bowed before Baall Yet they were all secret 3. Reg. c. 19 v. 14. 18. and vnknowne to Elias Therefore the Church may be sometymes hidden 7. I answere the faythfull of Israel that is of the kingdome of the ten tribes subiect to the King of Samaria The obiection of the latency of the church in the tyme of Elias answered of whome Elias spake as appeareth by the reply of God expresly adding in Israel were then vnknowne to him yet those of Ierusalem and of all the kingdome of Iuda where the law of God at the same tyme was openly professed were manifestly conspicuous both to him al the world for there the seruants of God abounded in such plenty as besides the Priests and other people the vâ—â—y Souldiâ—rs were numbred aboue ten hundred thousand Yet 2. Paral. 17. v 14. Although the Synagogue had fayled yet the same reason holdeth not of the Church Luc. 18. v. 8. graunt that he spake of all the people of the Iewes grant their Sinagogue had wholy fayled the like with no câ—â—â—urable reason could be inferred of the Church of Christ because that was a particuler this a vniuersall Church that limited to one people out of which Melchisedech Iob â—nd many iust were found This comprehendeth all nations out of which none can be saued That erected for a tyme this established for euer That to be abrogated and disanulled This warranted by the mouth of God and infallible promises of Christ neuer to be altered neuer destroyed Againe They are blinded with these wordes August De vnit Eccle. c. 13. Hier. dial aduer Lucifer Theoph in eum locuÌ„ Aug. vbi supra Dan. 9. v. 26. 27. Augu. ep 8. ad Esich Chrys in c. 24. Matth. Clem. Alexan lib. 11 Strom. Tertul. l. con Iudeos c. 15. 2. Thess 2. August de ciuit Dei l. 20. c. 29. Tert. l. de resurrect carnis of S. Luke The sonne of man comming shall he find trow you fayth vpon earth Which S. Augustine against the Donatists and S. Hierome against the Luciferians by vrging this place truly interprete not of want of fayth absolutely but of want of most rare and perfect fayth Which although it should not be extinguished yet it will be found in few those most eminent persons For the Infidells according to Theophilact in the tyme of Antichrist will grow so many and Christians waxe so few as they shall scant appeare in respect of them yet neuer want the proâ—ection of God nor the visible preaching and profession of his word Besides S. Augustine affirmeth that our Sauiour vttered those wordes as it were doubtfully by way of interrogation not resolutly by way of assertion The aduersaryes sight is not yet cleared but that which Daniel prophesied of the euersion of Hierusalem and cessation of the sacrifice of the Iewes as S. Augustine S. Chrysostome Clemens Alexandrinus and Tertullian expound he perniciously wresteth to the ruine desolation of the Church of God That which S. Paul writeth of the reuolt from the Roman Empire as pleaseth S. Ambrose S. Augustine Tertullian and S. Hierome or of Antichrist himselfe who is termed a defection a reuolt by the figure Metonomia because he will be the Authour of the reuolt of many as S. Iohn Chrysostome Theodoret and Oecumenus thinke he wrongfully misconstrueth of the fall and Apostacy of the Roman Church That which the Prophets Apostles figuratiuely pronounce reprouing all insteed of some as S. Augustine very singularly Augu. de vnit Eccl. â— 13. declareth he absolutely draweth to the condemnation of all As you haue all forsaken me sayth our Lord. Moreouer the flight of the woman into the desert mentioned by S. Iohn which troubleth them sore doth not signify the latency Apoc. 12. v. 6. of the Church but is properly meant of the great persecution or desolation she shall suffer in the tyme of Antichrist which shall endure for a tyme and tymes and halfe a tyme that is Vers 14. for three years and halfe yet it may be also vnderstood of persecutions and grieuous tempests which Nero other Dan. 7. v. 25. Emperours raysed against the Church euen from her infancy or mystically of the spiritual retirement which the spouse of Christ alwayes maketh in the wild desert of this world from the vaine pleasures and solaces therof 8. Lastly the complaint which VVhitaker vrgeth out of S. Hilary Mountaines and lakes prisons and dungeons are more secure then Churches is particulerly vttered Hilar. l. cont Auxent of the Church of Milan where Auxentius the Arian though reputed by many for a Catholike vsurped the Episcopall chayre and preached in the publike Temples In regard of which mischiefe S. Hilary had reason to account it far better to repaire to dens and woods then to be present at such hereticall and infectuous Sermons Therefore notwithstanding these particuler stormes and pressures notwithstanding many other vices reprehended by S. Bernard in the flocke Clergy yet the Church alwayes to vse S. Augustines phrase in suis firmissimis eminet August epist 48. paulâ— post medium shineth in her stedfast and immoueable foundations her Sunne was neuer set nor Moone went downe but spread her beames through those cloudy vapours to all parts of the world CHAP. V. Wherein is maintayned that the true Church cannot erre against D. Reynoldes D. Fulke and D. Whitaker MANY sober and well minded Protestants as I haue found by experience can hardly be perswaded that any of
pressed as they know not â—hat to say or whither to turne I appeale to the whole â—â—ditory whether this was not the summe of his reply â—â—d whether he did not heereupon abruptly end cease â— proceed any further with much disgust of the standers â— and small satisfaction to his owne fellow Ministers â—ho came to assist him Howbeit seeing both VVhitaker â— Reynolds distinguish in the same manner as Barbon hath â—â—one and often affirme that the Church may slide in to â—â—rours of probation not of damnation curable not inâ—â—rable I will a little further lay open the falsity of that â—istinction And first I would haue theÌ„ tell me what these â—urable errours be Grosse and fundamentall such as canâ—ot stand with the principles of faith or sleight and indifferent such as do not preiudice the integrity thereof â—â— such We need not for the attayning of saluation be cured of them we may without losse of Gods fauour heere or heereafter perseuere vnto death incurably in them In which case your new Ghospell was needles your outcryes slanderous your breach detestable in making so execrable a schisme diuision from vs for slender matters not necessary to saluation Grosse then and fundamental they be of which we shal be certainely healed before we dye therefore M. Whitaker affirmeth the Church may for a tyme erre in some foundations yet be safe or souÌ„d A crabbed saying for fayth must be entiere or els it is no fayth therefore if the beliefe of the Church be fayling in any one foundation it is no way sound but wholy erres in fayth as M. VVhitaker not many lines before directly auoucheth If any fundamentall point of doctrine be remoued the Church presently falleth A true speach howbeit most contrary and repugnant to the former And yet it is impossible for the Church euer to be ruined impossibly to perish or depart from God at any tyme or moment as hath beene disputed in the former Chapter Therfore impossible â—â— her to be ensnared in any substantiall or fundamental eâ—rour 5. Besides if curable errours be fundamentall whâ— be incurable What greater then fundamentall Or hâ—â— can any be counted incurable when there is none â— damnable which may not be cured by the salue of gracâ— When we dayly see that Arianisme Iudaisme Turcisâ—â— Apostacy Infidelity c. often cured with help from â—boue No errour there is which may not be cured by grace Are they incurable out of which the Church caâ— neuer be recouered But of this neuer Heretique as yâ—â— made question The Donatists who contended that thâ— whole Church crred and perished before their dayes saiâ— it reuiued againe and tooke life in them and so do all heretiks or sectaryes whosoeuer challenge a recouery of the decayed Church But what do I striue against meere fancyes All the arguments I haue heere proposed manifestly conclud that the true Church of Christ is neuer obnoxious to any errour at all little or great curable or incurable necessary or not necessary to saluation For she teacheth Why the Church can fall into no errour curable or incurable all truth the spirit and wordes of God are alwayes in her mouth She is a pure virgin and cannot be stayned with any spot of vnchast doctrine she is alwayes directed by the holy Ghost we are commanded by God alwayes to giue care vnto her But as we can be led into no offense smal nor grieuous materiall nor formal culpable nor inculpable into nothing dissonant or repugnant vnto truth by imbracing the direction or following ProtestaÌ„ts are eÌ„trapped in their own affertions holding the true Church may erre and yet themselus certain of truth the commandment of truth it self so we can tumble into no errour little or great curable or incurrable by following the direction or safe conduct of the Church And truely I wonder at this witch craft of Sathan how he should perswade our miserable sectaryes that they alone haue the purity of the Ghospell the certainty of the spirit the true reformed Church and yet to teach them withall that the true Church may erre For how can they be sure themselues do not erre in their fayth and in appeaching vs of so many superstitioÌ„s if their Church may erre How can their followers be sure they are taught â— truth if their teachers themselues confesse they may â— O drunken heresy O malicious blindnes art thou â—ereft of the light of reason and drowned in the pit of â—lful darknes as to produce no better witnesses for the â— of ours and rising of thy Church then such as may â—e such as may lye and beguile the people S. Augustine Aug. in psal 63. v. 7. â— braydeth the Iewes for labouring to disproue our Saâ—ours resurrection with sleeping watchmen And shall â—t I reuile our Lutheran or Caluinian strumpet for inâ—ing vs of sundry falshoodes by the verdict of errable â—inisters deceauable Reformers Who graunt they may â— blinded with curable errours Of such errours we acâ—se them in all points wherein they disagree from vs â—e proue them guilty by the word of God doome of anâ—â—quity and vniuersall Senate of all the faithfull who â—â—nnot erre Let them by the like Iury acquit themselues â—â—fense their doctrine with the like authority or els in â—â—ine do they bragge of verity or exclaime against our â—â—perstitious abuses Will they runne to the authority of Scripture But either they are infallibly assisted by the holy Ghost neuer to mistake or interprete it amisse and then their Church can neuer erre neither curably nor incurably which they deny or they may sometyme swarue from the sense and meaning of the holy Ghost they may fall into the curable errours of which we attach them and so are condemned by their owne mouthes for insufficient witnesses or accusers of vs. To go one Iren. l. 3. c. 4. 40. l. 1. c. 3. Hier. l. 3. adue Ruf. c. 8. in fine Cypr. epist 55. ad Cornel. Aug. de vnit Eccl. c. 28. 6. As the scripturs before mentioned so the ancient Fathers aboundantly testify the inerrable rule of the true Churches beliefe S. Irenaeus sayth The Apostles haue layd vp in the church as in a rich treasure all truth that he that will may from thence draw the water of life Likewise She keepeth with most sincere diligence the Apostles fayth and preaching In her sayth Saint Hierome is the rule or square of truth The Church sayth S. Cyprian neuer departeth from that which she once hath knowne S. Augustine Behould how after the same sort he addeth of the body which is the Church that he may not permit vs to erre neither in the bridegroome nor in the bride In another place he affirmeth Aug. tom 2. ep 166. fol. 290. that our heauenly Maister forewarneth vs to auoyd schismes In so much as he maketh the people secure of euill gouernourâ— least for them the chayer of holesome doctrine should be forsaken â— which euen
the euill are constrayned to deliuer true things for they aâ—â— Fox actes monuments pag. 999. 464. 1401. 1436. 1286. The Puritans in their discouery in a sermon preached 1588. by Bancroft pag. 34. The Protestants Apology tract 3. sect 7. n. 68. not their owne things which they deliuer but Gods who hath placâ—â— the doctrine of verity in the chayer of vnity We want not heerin the suffrages of Protestants of Foxe himselfe and sundry of his Martyrs of M. Bancroft late Bishop of Canterbury the Puritans not forbearing to carpe and reprehend him for it and of others mentioned in the Protestantâ— Apology for the Roman Church which in euery Chapter so victoriously triumpheth ouer our Reformers innouation by the irrefragable testimonyes of Reformers themselues as M. Morton astonished with the euidence brought against him was suddainly beaten backe from his rash attempt which he neuer since had the hart to prosecute or any other presumeth to take pen in hand to answere that excellent and euer vnanswerable worke 7. The reasons which perswade the infallibility of the Church are sundry and they most forcible For what could moue any Infidell or Atheist to forsake his errours and come vnto the Church if that might also beguile him with errour what meanes had we to condemne an Heretike or disproue his errours if the Church might erre Diuers reasons which coÌ„uince the infallibility of the Church in disprouing of them How should we know where to rest whome to consult in doubts of fayth if the highest Iudges might iudge amisse What assurance haue we of our beliefe religion scripture sacraments of Christ himselfe and all other articles of fayth if the Church which teacheth them might erre in teaching The same inconueniences the same confusion would ensue supposing it If the Church could erre fayth it selfe all things els were vncertayne were limited not to erre only in fundamentall points necessary to saluation For then the vnconstant and wauering Christian might still cast as many doubtes whether the thinges defined where fundamentall or not Whether necessary or not necessary to saluation Then the people might call their Pastours doctrine and definition in question they might examine whether the arâ—â—cles deliuered be substantiall and such wherein their â—â—eachers be freed from errour or no Then new schisms â—â—d contentions would dayly breake forth all things â—ill remaine vncertaine 8. To prosecute a little further one of these reasons For â—t were too much to enlarge them all The tradition or â—estimony of our Church in deliuering the whole canon of scripturs vpon whose authority also most Protestants receaue it of what account do you make it If fallible the An argument vnanswerable fayth you gather from thence the Religion you ground thereon must likewise be fallible vncertayne and no way autenticall For the truth gleaned from the scripturs cannot be more sure then the Scriptures themselues from which it is gathered If infallible You grant what we require For the promises of God the assistance of the holy Ghost which warranteth the testimony of our Church to be of inuiolable authority in this point being generall and without restriction must warrant it also in The same promises of God which assure the Churches infallibility in one thing assure it in all all other traditions interpretations doctrines whatsoeuer and so you that forsake her sentence renounce her definitions renounce the Oracles of truth and decrees vndeceiuable or els shew what exception what limitation the holy Ghost hath made where he restrayned her priuiledge of infalibility to that particuler more then to other articles of our beliefe This is a Gordian knot which breake you may vnty you cannot For suppose you should reply as a Protestant once answered me that it appertayned vnto the prouidence of God to keep safe his holy writ and challenge it from corruption I would further inquire of you whether God hath greater care of the letter or sense of the inward kernell or outward rine of the bone or marrow of his word Of the marrow no doubt Then he preserued that more safe in the harts of his faythfull then the other in the rolles of paper and so as you take the barke and outward letter from the tradition of our Church much more ought you to borrow from her the true sense and sap and heauenly iuyce Finally to what end do Protestants striue so much ProtestaÌ„ts according to their owne groundes haue neither any fayth or religion for the Churches erring but only to depriue themselues therby of Church faith religion For wheras neither religion nor Church can staÌ„d without supernatural faith nor supernaturall faith be atteyned without infallible certeinty of the thinges beleeued if their preachers their Ministers their Church be not vndoubtedly fenced from all daunger of errour the articles they beleeue haue not that inerrable warrant which is necessary to faith Faith saith S. Bernard hath nothing ambiguous or doubtfull if it hath any thing ambiguous it cannot be faith Whereupon it is defined Heb. 11. v. 1. Aug. l. 13. de Trinit c. 10. tract 79. in loan Chrysost in bunc locuÌ„ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Basil in explicat psal 115. Chrysost in hunc locuÌ„ Dyonil c. 7. de diuin nom by the Apostle to be the substance c. the argument of thinges not appearing that is a demonstration or conuiction by which our vnderstanding is acerteyned conuineed of the truth or as the greek importeth it is the basis grounde or foundation firme sure stedfast imoueable either of the hoped reuealed verities as S. Basil with S. Iohn Chrysostome indgeth or of them that hope beleeue fastning them in the truth the truth in them according to S. Denis S. Augustine from whence the comon schoole of diuines gather this principle that faith cannot be subiect to falsity no nor to any feare or suspition therof This infallible ground of assurance Protestants haue not beleeuing only vpon the credit of their Church which may beguile them Therefore howsoeuer they bragge of their all-sauing faith not any faith haue they or Church or religion at all August tract 7â— in loan Fidei non potest subesse falsum 9. Heer my aduersaryes cauill with vs that they haue as much fayth as we who rely vpon the definitions of our Popes and Prelates for they are men and euery man is a lyer as the scripture reporteth I answere our supreme Bishops are by nature men by infirmity subiect to lyes deceits yet as they are by faith Christians by inward vnction heyres of heauen so they are by Pastorall authority gouernors of the church officers of God organs of the holy ghost by whose perpetual assistaÌ„ce they caÌ„not erre they cannot in their publique decrees or generall assemblyes deliuer vnto the faithfull what is subiect to vncerteinty because that which they speake Christ speaketh in them that which they deliuer the spirit
of God deliuereth 2. Cor. 1â— v. â— Psal 8. â— Hier. l. â— comm in 6. â— ad Gal. Dâ—os eos esse manifestum est qui auteâ— Dij sunâ— tradunt Dei Euangelium non hominis In which respect S. Ierome doubteth not to call S. Peter S. Paul such as enioy their priuiledg after the phrase of scripture by the name of Gods thereupon maketh this illation But they that are Gods deliuer the Gospell of God not of man 10. Yet let vs view some other allegations which these erring and lying Ministers bring in to find the church guilty of errour Marry VVhitaker Reynoldes depose that which befalleth to one may befall to the whole but euery one in particuler may erre therefore the whole may erre which is a most false deposition plaine Sophisme arguing from each deuided member of the Church to the whole body ioyntly considered as if a cauiller should say This stone it self cannot be sufficient to raise a tower nor this nor that VVhitak contr 2 q. 4. c. 3. fol. 274. Reynoldes in his secoÌ„d conclusion fol. 628. as it is printed togeather with his conference nor any one a part Therefore a whole huge heap together cannot suffice It is a meere sophisticall kind of reasoning For we see that many do raise that which one or a few cannot Many forces of men vnited are able to draw that which no man in particuler can mooue A whole Army of souldiers vanquisheth a kingdom which on one the most valiaÌ„t captaine can annoy So the whole Church may preserue the truth vnspotted which no pâ—rticuler can doe Chiefly because the whole is guarded by Gods promise assisted by the holy Ghost the shield of her defence which deuided Churches want but the holy ghost saieth Whitaker and Fulke is also promised to euery one in particuler Christ prayed to sanctify euery one confirme him in D. VVhit contro 2. q. 4. c. 2. f. 168. Fulk in c. 16. Ioan. sect 5. in c. 3. 1. Tim. sect 9. verity as he did for the whole for the laity aswell as for the Clergy for the people as much as for the Priestes It is true he prayed for all and each particuler promised the holy ghost to euery one but in a diuers manner according to euery ones seuerall state degree he praied for the Apostles and Bishops their Successours he assured theÌ„ the holy ghost as to parentes maisters shepheards of his fold to the laity euery one of the faithfull as to children schollers and sheep to be directed by them They haue the holy ghost 〈◊〉 their mouthes to teach preach instruct anâ— How the spirit of God in â—â—â—â—ised to the whole Church and how to 〈…〉 particular member VVhitak cont 2. q. â— c. ap 3. fol. â—8â— Seueruâ— l. 2. Theod. c. 19. Ream linguam non facis nisi rea mens VVitnes S. Athan. epist ad â—rancâ—s â—â—â—erne these in their hartes to obey beleeue keep vnity peace submission They his publique assistance for the publique function profit of the Church these his priuar direction for their owne priuate comfort particuler saluation Therefore as the Pastours Gouernours cannot erre in teaching defining or publiquely condemning false opinions so neither any one of the faithfull in beleeuing obeying or shunning those whom the Church hath censured Thus the whole and euery part securely trauayleth towardes the coast of heauen with the safe conduct of the holy ghost for the edificatioÌ„ complement and full perfection of the misticall body of Christ 11. Whitaker obiecteth againe that all Churches Arianized and consequently erred when the whole world aâ— S. Ierome reporteth groaned wondred to see â— selfe an Arian But S. Ierome by the figure Synecdoche vseth the whole for a great parte who were deceaued in the Councell of Arimine partly by the fraude of Valens the Arian Bishop partly by imbecillity of wit yet diuers of them materially only Wherefore seeing it is â—n Axiome in the law that the tongue it not made guilty but by the guilty mind they reteyning the true Catholique faith in their hartes formally also in open profession yeilded not properly to Arianisme but stil preserued the true state of the Church which was likewise at the same time inuiolably maynteyned in the West especially in those renowned Bishops and their flock S. Hilary S. Ambrose S. Eusebius of Verselles in Athanasius and others of Greece And that boysterous tempest continued but three yeares for then as S. Hierome relateth the beast dyed there succeeded Hier. dial aduer Lucifer a calme From the Church our aduersaryes flye to the Councells representing the Church and draw bills of enditement to conuict them of errour but their allegations are voyd and insufficient For such Councells as they meane were either vnlawfull conuenticles tumutuously assembled or if lawfully gathered not lawfully continued or not wholy approued or falsly accused or they erred only in some matter of fact not in any point of doctrine or article of beliefe 12. At least say they the old Church and Synagogue of the Iewes wholy erred when Aaron and the Two other obiections of aduersaries answered Exod. 3â— Mar. 14. whole multitude adored the golden Calfe and when Caiphaâ— the chiefe Bishop and whole Councell of Priestes adiuged Christ to death I answere that Aaron was not then inuested with the authority of high Priest but that office was imparted long after vnto him as appeareth out of the last of Exodus Then the Leuits neuer consented to that Idolatry nor Moyses in whome the supreme Priestly dignity still remayned To the second obiection I answere The infalibility of the Sinagogue when christ bad established his Church that the Councell of the Scribes Pharisces was tumultuously gathered not to interpret the law or teach the people but to pronounce sentence in a matter of fact against the Sonne of God or if they did erre in a chiefe point of faith it maketh nothing against vs for Christ had then planted his Church preached his doctrin Therfore the infallible assistance of the Holy Ghost was no longer tyed to the Synagogue Christ being present the head of his Church and hauing sufficiently promulgated his Ghospell 13. Therfore to draw to an end seeing the true Church neuer did or euer can stray from the truth as the Scriptures The Protestants Church cannot be the true Church of Iesus Christ by their own confessioÌ„ Fathers reasons conuince And seeing Protestants confesse that their Church may erre or goe astray for a tyme we must needs conclude that their Church is not the inerrable spouse of Iesus Christ but the harlot of Sathan the Temple of Baal the Stewes of an aduoutresse or if they now recant and yield vnto vs that the true Church cannot step awry in any one generally receaued point of beliefe it necessarily followeth that all their pretended reformations of her errours haue beene innouations
of their owne heads their accusations forgeryes their separation horrible schisme and open rebellion against the kingdome of Christ It followeth also that the Roman Church vniuersally spread ouer the face of the earth which once was must needs continue the true Catholike Church free from Apostacy free from heresy free from superstition or any other false doctrine of which she is accused CHAP. VI. Wherein is demonstrated that the Church is the supreme Iudge of Contrâ—uersyes against D. Whitaker D. Fulke and all Protestants THAT the holy Scriptures can neither by themselues nor by any rules our Sectaryes assigne determine the strifes which fall out in matters of Religion In the first part and first Controuersy hath in the first part of this treatise bin proued at large now that the Church is the only infallible and suprem Iudge which decideth those debates our Sauiour himself fully testifyeth when he referreth all matters controuerted to her sole and high tribunall saying Dic Ecclesiae Tell the Matth. 18. v. 17. Church if he will not heare the Church Where he teacheth after that priuate correction and publique admonition wil not serue the guilty party is to be summoned before the Prelates * So Saint Chrysostom heer taketh the Church for her Prelates or chiefe Pastours of the Church without further examination despute or appeale to stand to their sentence or els to be cast off as an Heathen or Publican VVhitaker seeketh to auoyd this place two wâ—â—es first by VVhitak cont 2. q. 4. c. ap 2. 3. â—xpounding it of Ecclesiasticall censures not of doctrine Secondly that the Church is to be heard but in those thinges only in which she heareth and obeyeth Christ Very friuolous and idle for in such thinges euen the Iewish Synagogue the Turkish Alcaron and the Diuell himselfe is to be heard as hath beene vrged before this were not to end Controuersyes without further appeale but to enter a new court of strifes to commence new examinations to call the Church in question whether she heareth and obeyeth Christ in the thinges she commandeth or no. 2. Besides if we ought to obey the Church in her Ecclesiasticall censures of excommunication suspension or the like much more in her condemnation of heresies If the Church caÌ„not erre in censuring much lesse in defining or publique definitions what we ought to beleeue If in sentences of fact much more in explications of fayth determinations of doctrine if God hath appointed her our supreme iudge in chastising and correcting vs with her spirituall punishments much more without doubt in curing our soules and preseruing them from all spots of errours And therefore our Sauiour restreyned not this precept of obeying his Church to any particuler matter but enlarged it to all and straight way giueth her that vniuersall commission Amen I say vnto you whatsoeuer you shall Matt. 18. v. 18. Ibid. v. 19. bind vpon earth shall be bound also in heauen and whatsoeuer you shal loose vpon earth shall be loosed also in heauen And Concerning euerything whatsoeuer they shall aske it shall be done to them Away then with M. Whitakers restrictions away with mens abridgementes where the Sonne of God imparteth so ample illimited and vniuersall a priuiledge In like maÌ„ner he did not vse any limitation but absolutely sayd Luc. 10. v. 16. Matth. 23. v. 3. VVhitak contro 2. q. 4. c. 2. fol. 267. 268. He that heareth you heareth me and all thinges whatsoeuer they shal say to you obserue ye and do ye Which two places Whitaker againe after his ridiculous fashion with this caution vnderstandeth He that heareth you teaching true prescribing iust thinges and whatsoeuer they shall teach according to the law dee yee As though the Sonne of God dallyed with vs sayd the same thing which was nothing but heare the truth wheresoeuer the truth is spoken yet S. Augustine by these later words attributeth a great prerogatiue to the chayer of Moyses In which verily sayth he he figured his owne for he Aug. con litt Petil. l. 2. c. 61. warneth the people to do that which they say and not to do that which they do and that the holynes of the chayer be in no wise forsaken noâ— the vnity of the flocke diuided for the naughty persons Howbeit if our Sectaryes cautioÌ„ may take place he figured the chayer of pestilence as much as his owne we might follow their doings which Christ forbiddeth as well as their sayings to wit whatsoeuer they doe conformable to the Law Moreouer S. Paul after a long dispute and many alleadged reasons referreth the last resolution of the matter debated 1. Cor. 11. v. 16. to the practise of the Church If any man seeme to be contentious we haue no such custome nor the Church of God 3. In the old testament God also appointed that in case inferiour Officers dissented in their opinions we should haue recourse to the consistory of Priests as to the chiefe and infallible Tribunall If you see that the wordes of Deut. 17. v. 8. â— the Iudges within thy gates do vary arise and go vp to the place which our Lord thy God shall choose and thou shalt come to the Priests of the Leuiticall flocke c. and thou shalt do whatsoeuer they that are Presidents of the place which our Lord shall choose shall say and teach thee according to the Law Which later words do not inuolue At one tyme ther was but one chief President called the high priest diuers successiâ—ely as Protestants wrangle any condition if they shall teach but an absolute warrant that they shall teach according to his Law els then their iudgment and determination were fruitles and the matter remayned as doubtfull as before for exceptions might be taken that sentence is not giuen according to the law of which some other must be coÌ„stituted Iudge whose decision is infallible or els the same doubt ariseth of him and so without end Then our aduersaryes answere againe that this place is vnderstood of ciuill and politique affayres not of doubtes of religion But if Gods wisedome so carefully prouided for the composing of ciuill matters much more for ecclesiastical where the doubtes are more intricate and contentions more dangerous Therefore God sayd of his Priests by Ezech. 44. v. 24. Ezechiel VVhen there shall be a controuersy they shall stand in my iudgments and shall iudge my lawes and my Preceâ—tes By Malachy Mala. 2. v. 7. The Protestants false translation of such places as make against theÌ„ The lippes of the Priest shall keep knowledge and the law they shall require of his mouth because he is the Angell of the Lord of hostes A Text so forcible as Protestants not enduring the pregnancy thereof for shall keep knowledge corruptly read should keep contrary to all Originalls In Hebrew it is â—ismeru In Greeke 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In Latin custodient shall keep fortelling not what they
ought or should but what they shal infallibly do 4. Likewise wheresoeuer there is question of the law of the coÌ„mandement of ceremonies of Iustifications shew it them I meciatly Paral. 19. v. 10. after there is a distinction made betwene spirituall and ciuill affaires betwene spirituall and temporall authority Ananias the Priest your Bishop shable chief in these things Ioseph l. 2. cont Apion Philo l. 3. de vita Moysis Aelian var. hist l. 14. c. 34. Strabo Geor. l. 17. Cicero l. 2. de leg Euseb in Chron. Casar de bello Galli l. 6. Ioseph antiq lib. 14 c. 16. To the Church belong all the conditions necessary in a Iudge which perteine to God Moreouer Zabadias the sonne of Ismael who is the Prince of the house of Iuda shal be ouer those workes which apperteine to the kinges office And Iosephus witnesseth That the Priestes were appointed by Moyses to be ouerseers of all thinges iudges of controuersies and punishers of the condemned persons whereby it is euident that it belonged to them not only to decide Ciuill of which Philo also maketh mention but much more Ecclesiasticall matters touching the law the commaundement and iustifications neither was this only ordeyned by God amongst his chosen people the Iewes but by ingrafted perswasion of nature agreed vpon amongst all nations For Aelianus writeth that amongst the Aegiptians their priestes were Iudges determiners of all debates and that the most auncient of them had the chiefest voyce Strabo testifieth the like of the Aethiopians Cicero of the Romans of the Persians Eusebius Caesar of the Frenchmen that their Priestes called Druidae had the same authority Iosephus of the Athenians affirming that their Priestes were Iudges the chiefest among them gathered the suffrages of the rest 5. Moreouer all conditions necessarily required in a suprem Iudge confirme vnto the Church her soueraignty of iudgment for the Iudge must be able to heare vnderstand examine the matters in strife giue a cleere resolute sentence whereby he acquite the innocent and condemne the guilty these propertyes appertaine to the Prelates of the Church They and not the Scriptures nor the priuate spirit haue eares to heare skill to knowe She can heare examine determin debates meanes to examine a liuely intelligent voyce to pronounce such a sentence of approbation or condemnation as all may discerne on whose side it is giuen Againe the Iudge ought to be publique openly knowne that all who are desirous may haue accesse vnto him of infallible authority not only in himselfe but also in respect of vs that we may safely rely build the foundation of faith vppon him He ought to be autenticall warranted by God indewed with power that the humble may with awfull reuerence imbrace his decrees and the stubborne by due constraint punishment be forced to submit otherwise his tribunall were vn profitable iudgment She is publique known to all friuolous The Church is so conspicuous patent generally knowne as there are few Iewes or Turkes no Christians who are ignorant of it howbeit many are ignoraÌ„t of the holy scriptures Her sentence is certeine infallible She cannot be inueigled with errour nor She is infallible corrupted with giftes nor seduced with fauour because she is the faithfull spouse of Christ and piller of truth The scriptures although they be certeine in themselues yet in respect of vs they may be adulterated suborned changed misconstrued 6. The Church hath the seale of Gods warrant whereby we are bound to obey it bound to follow and imbrace her finall resolution If he will not heare the Church let him be to thee like the heathen publican yet we are no way tyed She is authenticall and warranted by God Matt. 18. v. 17. 1. Cor. 5. v. 3. 4. 5. to the written word any further then it is deliuered expounded vnto vs. The Church hath power to excomunicate suspend degrade enforce by her censures compell vs by her punishmentes to conformity and obedience as S. Paul did the incestuous Corinthian I indeed absent in body but present in spirit haue already iudged as presente him that hath so done in the name of our Lord Iesus Christ you being gathered together my spirit with the â—ertue of our Lord Iesus 2. Cor. vlt. v. 10. v. 2. Christ to deliuer such a one to Sathan By this and many other places it is plaine that the pastours of the Church haue a coactiue power of constrayning the rebellious to submit themselues vnto her triall definition which the Scriptures haue not 7. Many other proofes may be brought to strengthen this high tribunall of the Church For she is the mother She is the first Mistresse of our fayth which first begetteth vs which sealeth vs in baptisme with the character of Christians She teacheth vs the first elementes of our beliefe the articles of our Creed She spelleth vnto vs the meaning of Christ of Iesus of Sauiour of God the authour of grace of his Sacraments sacrifices faith and gospell which from the written worde without her instruction we could neuer learne To which purpose very true is that sayng of M. Hooker Hooker 2. booke of Eccle. poli fol. 118. The scripture could not teache vs the thinges which are of God vnles we did credit men who haue taught vs that the wordes of scripture doe signifie those thinges Therefore the men of the Church not the scripture are the first maisters of our faith Yea say you but after our first reformers did more copiously partake The Protestants idle euasion reiected the beames of lighte they found the scriptures peruerted not rightly expounded by such as had them before in custodye Is it so Were their expositions false and scriptures true Must we beleeue on their worde the canon of scriptures and learne of you the interpretation of them as though they who canonized them with authority in regard of vs could not open their meaning better then you or he who preserued by them the dead letter vncorrupted did not more diligently preserue the liuely sense and meaning inuiolable Can any guide vs more safely in the way of saluation in the pathe of Christ then such as teache vs there is a Christ meanes of saluation Egregiously S. Augustine reasoneth with the Aug. l. de vtil credeÌ„ c. 14. Manichees as we may now with Protestants VVhy should I not most diligently inquire amongst them what thing Christ commaunded by whose authority perswaded I haue now beleeued that Christ commaunded some thing VVilt thou better tell me what he sayed whome I would not thinke to haue beene at all or to be if I must Aug. com â— cont ep Manich. c. 5. beleeue because thou sâ—â—est is VVhat madnes is this Giue credit iâ— them that Christ is to be beleeued learne of vs what he said In Another place If thou doest holde thy selfe to the ghospell
I would holde my self to those by whose commaundement I beleeued the gospell c. VVhose authority being infringed weakned I could not now There is no raâ—son we should beleeue the authority of the Roman Church in deliuering scripture and Protestants in expounding it contrary to her authority beleeue euen the gospell itself Imediatly before If thou say Beleeue not the Catholiques it is not the right way by the ghospell to driue me to the faith of Manichaens of Protestants because I beleeued the ghospell it self by the preaching of Catholiques 8. Yet if against all sense and reason if against both God and man you should perswade vs to beleeue your new constructions of Sâ—riptuee against theÌ„ who taught you both Christ and Scripture do we not belieue the authority of men the voyce as you account your selues of the faythfull so submit our iudgments to the exposition of the Church 9. Further more the Church is the treasury or store-house of God to which he committeth all his heauenly ministeryes All thinges which I haue heard of my Father I haue made knowne to you It is his mouth or oracle which openeth the same to others his trumpet or cryer which promulgateth The Church is the store-house of truth Ioan. 15. v. â—â— them to the world Go and teach all Nations c. teaching all thinges which I haue commaunded you It is the messenger which reuealeth his will The witnes which giueth testimony of his wordes and sayings The VicegereÌ„t which supplyeth the roome of his beloued You shal be witnesses to me in Hierusalem and in all lury c. As my Father hath sent me so I also do send you But Christ was sente from Matt. vlt. v. 19. Act. 1. v. 8. Ioan. 20. v. â—2 the throne of his Father with most ample power to decide all doubtes in matters of faith Therefore the Church succedeth him in this soueraigne authority she baptizeth now in his person sacrificeth in his person teacheth in his person gouerneth in his person excoÌ„municateth in his person so she determineth with infallible assistance and iudgeth all Controuersies in his person If we be commanded to heare her obey her belieue her be ruled by her If we must open our owne faults complayne of our brethren to her be bound or loosed The Church iudgeth of the writings of the Apostles she coÌ„poseth the Canon of Scripture she iudgeth of the true sense and interpretation of scripture of our sinns by her if she must cleare out doubts examine our causes redresse our scandals quiet our contentions she no doubt is the supreme iudge of all our spiritual affayres When any doubt is made of the writings of the Apostles whether they be theirs or no as whether the Epistle of S. Paul to the Laodiceans be his or not it belongeth to the Church to decide the matter to receaue or reiect it Therfore she iudgeth of the Apostolicall doctrin of the sacred Canon she iudgeth what is consonant to the diuine spirit of God and what is dissonant thereunto When any heresy springeth from the false interpreration of scripture she also censureth she condemneth it Therefore she is the iudge not only of the scriptures but also of the true sense and exposition of them And thus in all tymes and places whensoeuer occasion hath beene offered the Church hath exercised her iudiciall power CHAP. VII Wherein is manifested the conformable practise of the Church other authorityes alleadged the imagined circle obiected against vs auoyded IN the Apostles dayes a controuersy arose concerning the obseruation of the legall Ceremonyes it was diligently argued discussed and iudged by the Church with this diuine and Act. 15. v. 28. infallible resolutioÌ„ It hath seemed good to the holy Ghost and vs c. Some few yeares after a great debate fell out about the celebratioÌ„ of the feast of Easter whether it should be kept alwayes on the Sunday or on the 14. day of the first moneth the matter was referred examined iudged by the Church with such an vncontrolable sentence as they who resisted were absolutely censured and condemned for heretikes called Quartadecimani Witnes S. Augustine Epiphanius Tertullian others In all succeeding ages some such doubts questions or heresyes haue sprung vp and haue beene Aug. haer â—6 Epiphan haer 50. Tertul. in Praescrip alwayes sifted determined and iudged by the Church From her the Nouatians Arians Nestorians Eutichians Pelagians Monothelites and the rest haue still receaued their finall doome and irreuocable damnation in such iudiciall manner as no appeale no dispute no further examinations of their opinions hath beene after Hooker in the preface to his book of Eccles poli pag. 24. 25. 26. 27. Couel in his defence of M. Hooker permitted as not only M. Hooker and M. Doctour Couell two moderne Protestants but S. Athanasius also testifyeth of the Churches decrees in the Nicen Councell against the Arians Let no man thinke a matter discussed by so many Bishops confirmed with most cleare testimonyes may be called againe in question least if a thing so often iudged be reuised and knowne againe the curiosity of knowing vtterly want all end of knowing And Martian the Emperour He doth wronge to the iudgement of the most reuerend Synod who contendeth to rippe vp or publiquely argue and dispute of such thinges as be once iudged and rightly ordered Theodosius Athan. in decr Nice Syno Martian in rescript ad Pallad Praefect Preto C. desum Trin. l. 5. Cod. l. 1. tit leg damnat also and Valentinian those two Catholike Emperous who held the Imperiall Scepter in the yeare of our Lord 428. haue most catholikely enacted a law allowing the Churches definitiue sentence in sundry CouÌ„cels VVhosoeuer in this holy Citty or other where do follow the prophane peruersity of Eutiches condeÌ„ned in the late Councell gathered at ChalcedoÌ„ do not so beleeue in all points of fayth as the 318. holy Fathers of the Nicene Councell as the 150. venerable Bishops assembled togeather in the Councell of Constantinople or the other two CouÌ„cells following of Ephesus and Chalcedon let them know that they are heretiks But as thâ— Churches tribunall in condemning heresyes so in establishing true doctrine in all doubtfull cases hath beene esteemed infallible Hence that common saying of S. Augustine VVhosoeuer feareth to be ensnared Aug. l. 1. cont Cres c. 33. by the obscurity or hardnes of this question let him consult the Church thereof which the holy Scripture without all ambiguity doth demonstrate 2. Hence S. Paul immediatly instructed from the mouth of God when false seducers sought to caluminate Gal. 2. v. 2. Tertul. l. 4. contra Marc. c. 2. his heauenly doctrine had recourse vnto the Church for approbation of his Ghospell Least perhaps in vaine I should runne or had runne Whereupon Tertullian If he from whom S. Luke receaued his light desired to haue his fayth and preaching authorized by his predecessours how
much more reason haue I to desire the like for the Ghospell of S. Luke seeing the same was so necessary for the Ghospell of his Maister And S. Augustine The Apostle S. Paul Aug. tom 6. cont Faust Manic l. 28. c. 4. Hier. ep 11. called from heauen if he had not found the Apostles with whome by conferring his Ghospell he might appeare to be of the same society the Church would not beleeue him at all S. Hierome hath the like whose authorityes togeather with the president of S. Paul so pinch our aduersaryes as they haue nothing to answere which deserueth confutation Notwithstanding A cauil of the aduersary reproued against the former recited examples of the Church they cauill that she pronounced iudgment in the beginning out of the written word and so made the scripture iudge rather then her selfe of all doubtfull occurrences We grant that the Scriptures were the outward law the The scripture is the outward law and needeth a liuely iudge or interpreter compasse or square which the Church followed in giuing her sentence both then and euer since yet as the law is dumbe and needeth an interpreter the compasse square not able to direct without the guide of the Architect to leuell it aright so the Scriptures can neuer giue a diffinitiue sentence to compose debates vnles they be managed guided and interpreted by the Church The scriptures are the dead and silent the Church the liuely speaking intelligible Iudge more easy then the scriptures more ancient then the scriptures more necessary Iren. l. 3. c. 4. Hilar. de Syno aduer Arian then the scriptures more necessary because many sucking babes who dye after baptisme many ignorāt people as Ireneus and S. Hilary note are saued without scriptures but not without the Church more ancient because the scriptures were penned by the holy Prophets and Apostles The last resolution of fayth is diuersly made by which we auoyd the circle obiected against vs by many Protestāts members of the Church more easy and perspicuous because that which the scriptures in sundry darke hard and general tearmes obscurely contayne the church in open plaine and particuler declarations applyable to the sundry exigentes of speciall occurrents cleerly expresseth Therefore although the scriptures haue a kind of iudgment as the inanimate law can iudge togeather with the Church yet the Church hath the principall primary supreme and most irreprouable voyce in this spirituall consistory or court of religion 3. Howbeit the last resolution of our beliefe is not so referred either to scriptures or to the Church but that the prime verity and other prudent motiues haue also their speciall concurrence whereby we easily auoyd that idle and impertinent circle with which VVhitaker and First it is resolued into the authority of God his fellowes would seeme to disgrace vs of prouing the scriptures by the Church and Church againe by scriptures For when it is demanded why we belieue the scriptures the infallible authority of the Church the mystery of the Trinity or any other article of our beliefe we reply that if you aske the formall reason which winneth the assent of our vnderstanding to belieue we beleeue Secondly into the proposition of the Church them for the diuine authority which is the formall obiect of fayth and of infinit force and ability to perswade immediatly by it selfe without the help of any other formall inducement whatsoeuer if you demand what warranteth or proposeth vnto vs this or that article to be credited by the testimony of God We answere it is the Catholike Church guided by the holy Ghost which cannot propose or deliuer any falshood If you demaund what moueth our will to accept this Church for an infallible witnes in sealing those articles We answere they are arguments of credibility which prudently induce Thirdly into certaine motiues of credibility and stir vs vp to credit her report the argumentes are these glory of miracles consent of Nations perpetuall succession interrupted continuance admirable propagation and increase of the Church force of doctrin conuersion of soules change of manners fortitude of Martyrs vnity sanctity antiquity the like which preuailed so much with our most learned S. Augustine as he recounting those thinges which iustly detayned him in Aug. con◠epist Manich 4. the Catholike Church sayth There holdeth me in her bosome the consent of people and nations there holdeth an authority begotten with miracles nourished with hope increased by charity Aug. de vtil cred c. 14. Populorū atque gentiū confirmatae opinioni ac famae admodum celeberrimae strengthned by antiquity there holdeth from the seate of Peter the Apostle to whome our Lord after his resurrection recommended the feeding of his sheep euen to this present Bishopricke the succession of Priests Lastly there holdeth me the name Catholike c. And in another place he sayth that by no other reasons was he induced to belieue in Christ then by giuing credit to the approued opinion of people Nations and to a most renowned and famous report These then were the motiues of credibility which first perswaded him to imbrace both Christ and his Ghospell 4. Then the mouth which vttered oracle which proposed them was the Church it self I for my part quoth Aug. con ep Fund c. 5. he would not beleeue the gospell vnles the authority of the Catholike Church moued me But the formall ground or chief reason which wonne his assent was the veracity prime verity or testimonye of God who could not with such prudent motiues euident argumentes of credibility testifye any thing either by himselfe or others which was not sealed with infallible truth Thus no round or circulation is made because the same thing is not proued but after a diuers seueral manner Secondly we escap another way The second way of escaping the circle the daunger of circulation if against them who deny the one graunt the other we borrow argumentes from the scriptures for exāple which they graunt to establish the Church which they denie or from the true Church if that be admitted to authorize the scriptures which are wrongfully impugned Thirdly that idle circle is declined The third way auoiding the same when we canonize the scriptures by the testimony of the present Church proue the Church by the interpretation of scriptures not made by the same Church which now is or lately was in the Councell of Trent but so expounded by the ancient Church in former dayes in the Councell of Carthage in the time of S. Augustin S. Ambrose and the rest of those Doctours or so expounded by the primitiue Church so expounded by the Apostles who receaued it from Christ he from his Father What round is heer or circle committed 5. Lastly it is no absurdity or begging of the question in hand if the Church approue the scripture by her owne testimony and by the same also her infallible authority
precept all thinges whatsoeuer Christ commanded or els we forfeit our whole grace forfeit our right and title to heauen because he that offendeth in one is made guilty of all So we are bound to belieue all whatsoeuer either Christ by himselfe Matt. 28. v. 20. or the holy Ghost teacheth vs by the mouth of his Church or if we deny any one point we are vtterly depriued of the habit of fayth we haue not any fayth at Iacob 2. v. 10. all 12. At length it is not ynough that we stedfastly beleeue euery point all the heades and braunches of catholique faith we must also communicate ioyne together in society with the faithfull For he that doth not gather with me scattereth he that is not with me is against me as Cypr. de vnit Eccl. S. Cyprian to this purpose vseth these places of scripture Therefore although euery well minded sectary beleeue all thinges with the true Church notwithstanding as long as he seuereth himselfe in communion from it that very separation that dissention alone is ynough to cast him headlong into euer lasting fire S. Cyprian writeth of Chore Dathan Abiron that they beleeued in one God Cypr. lib. 1. epist 6. worshipped one God called vpon him liued in the same law religion as Moyses Aaron did howbeit because they diuided themselues by schisme from the rest resisted their Priestes Gouernours Gods heauy hand lighted vpon them More notable are the wordes of S. Aug. l. dâ— vnit Eccl. c. 4. Augustine All those that beleue as hath beene sayd that our Lord Iesus Christ is come in flesh risen from death in the same flesh in which he was borne hath suffered that he is the sonne of God with God one with the Father the only immutable word of the Father by whome all thinges were made but doth dissent notwithstanding in such sort from his body which is the Church that their communion is not with all them with whome the Catholique Church doth participate but are in some diuided part it is manifest that they are not in the catholique Church And if not in the Church if not in the body of Christ they cannot be quickned with the spirit of Christ For whosoeuer saith he againe Aug. ep 152. ad Donatist is diuided from the Catholique Church how laudable so euer he seeme to liue for this only crime that he is separated from the vnity of the Church he shal be excluded from life the wrath of God shall remaine vpon him With whome S. Fulgentius accordeth saying Hold for most certeine doubt not that no heretique or Fulgent de fide ad Petriem c. 29. schismatike baptized in the name of the Father of the sonne and of the holy ghost if he be not vnited to the catholique Church although he he giue neuer so great almes and shed his very bloud for the name of Christ yet can be in no wise be saued 13. By all this which I haue sayd it appeareth first how much they are deceaued who sooth themselues with A deceit of some who thinke it inough to belieue the common principles in which all Sectaryes agree this fond conceipt that although euery obstinate sectary cannot enioy the treasures of life yet if any be so indifferent that they hold beleeue the common principles in which all Christian sectes and companies accord they at least may be in the state of saluation These men I say are much deceaued because Faith must be whole and entire in euery point and besides integrity of beleefe in all pointes communion with the true Church participation of sacramentes is also necessary Then they are mistaken with a false surmise that they agree with all in their generall groundes For as all meet together in some common articles of one God one Christ or the like So they all and each sect vniformely consenteth that those common principles are to be limited contracted by a speciall faith to his particuler sect Therefore they cannot agree in all generall pointes with euery diuided conuenticle vnles they ioyne in this to draw these geÌ„eral heades to some one society or one particuler faith as euery sect though in a different manner conformably doth 14. Secondly as pernicious a flattery it is in many who thinke it sufficient to obey their king lawes of their Country exacting their corporall presence at the Another flattery of such as deeme it sufficient to coÌ„form themseluâ— to their Princes lawes in matters of coÌ„science publique seruice which is appointed in the Realme whether it be true or false For although obedience to Princes be not only commendable but according to vs necessary to saluation in all such thinges as they haue authority to commaunde yet in matters of faith and religion which apperteine to God wherein soeuer they swarue from his diuine lawes no subiect can be excused in obeying his Princes precept or highest consistory to the violating of his conscieÌ„ce breach of Gods coÌ„mandement no more then the Iewes who committed Idolatry at the compulsion of Ieroboam Easterne Bishops who imbraced Arianisme by the constraint of Valens the Arian Emperour or any other such like were to be acquited of most detestable sacriledg in neglecting their duty to God for obedieÌ„ce vnto men Neither ought this seeme straung to Protestantes for sith it is lawfull among them to disobey the voyce of Gods Church to disobey the decrees of Gods generall Councells which are warranted by God neuer to erre as often as in their priuate iudgmentes they stray from the written word how can they blame vs who humbly craue pardon of not obeying our temporall How far Catholikâ— are ready to spend their liues in any of their Princes quarels Soueraignes who haue not the like warrant in such thinges only as the whole Christian world and Gods highest tribunall vpon earth infallibly iudgeth theÌ„ to depart from the scriptures In all thinges els we vow all homage duty to Princes we are ready to offer our liues landes and goods in their behalfe we are readye to defend the right of their title or of other causes wherin they shal be engaged agaynst any inuader temporall or ecclesiasticall whosoeuer Onlie we desire to keepe our consciences vnoppressed our religion entire vnto God 15. Thirdly as Protestants flatter themselues to the 〈…〉 dice of their soules so they cry out against vs for â—â—nt of charity in condemning so many morall good men of other religious besides our owne blameles iâ— thier liues in conuersation modest zealous in prayers almes hospitality and many other vertuous workes I answere that as it is no want but an euident token of perfect charity to for warne sinners of the peril of damnation 1. Cor. 6. v. 9 10. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Which ProtestaÌ„ts falsly traÌ„slate worshippers of Images Gal. 5. v. 19. 20. 21. Rom. 16. v. 17. Tit. 3. to inculcate
opening the window as VVhite imagineth deliuer vs this ligot but he termeth them the candles themselues lights of the world VVhite in the place before cited Matt. 5. v. 14. VVhite as before which guide enlighten vs in the heauenly path of true beleefe Wherefore if a light vpon a watch tower in the darcke night may according to White be the only marke whereby to find the tower the doctours Pastours of Christ which our Sauiour auoucheth to be his glorious lights shining in the darke night of this world must by Whites owne allusion be the only marks to find out the faith of Christ They to whome Cornelius to whome S. Paul called from heauen to whome all the ignorant are perpetuall sent by the voyce of God to learne the truth of his doctrine Act. 10. v 5. 6. Act. 9. v. 7. 17. way of his commaundements 6. Fourthly either the sincere preaching of the word in some particuler points is sufficient to descry the Church or it is necessary it be sincere in all pointes of faith both VVhitaker VVhite agree that it must be sincere in al fundameÌ„tal VVhitak cont 2. q. 5. cap. 17. VVhite in his way to the true Church §. points necessary to saluatioÌ„ because diuers heretical conuenticles haue the sincere preaching in some particulers either of Trinity Incarnation Passion or ResurectioÌ„ of Christ yet that sufficeth not therefore it ought to be sincere in all But how shall the ignorant be assured what Church it is which is pure in all these articles who doe not vnderstand the articles themselues neither which be fundamentall nor how many nor wherein the chief foundation of euery article consisteth as necessary to saluation How shall they for example be certeinly perswaded whether the Protestant sect syncerely teacheth the article of imputatiue iustice of originall sinne of predestination of many such in which diuerse learned men haue fowly erred strayed from the truth They I say who cannot examine these pointes by the analogie of holy writ or if they can are not able to iudge of the verity of such deep vnsearchable misteries what course shall they take beleeue their ministers who confesse they may deceaue them beleeue their priuat spirit who haue no meanes in this case to make triall of it whether it accord or disagree from the rule of faith M. Field hath set downe a prudent course which if his owne followers would now embrace we might ioyne handes Field in his epistle dedicatory before his first book tâ—gether concerning this point Seeing the coÌ„trouersies of religioÌ„ in our time are growne in number so many in nature so intricat that few haue time leasure fewer strength of vnderstanding to examine them what remayneth for men desirous of satisfaction in thinges of such consequence but diligently to search out which amongst Iren. l. 3. c. 3. 4. Lact. l. 4. diuin insti cap. vlt. Ambr. ep 32. ad Imper ValeÌ„t Aug. de vtilit credend c. 37. VVhite in his way to the church §. 26. fol. 119. Augu. in psal 57. all the societies of men in the world is that blessed company of holy ones that houshold of faith that spouse of Christ Church of the liuing God which is the pillar ground of truth that so they may embrace her communion follow her directions and rest in her iudgment Hither to he I might produce the words of S. Irenaeus Lactantius S. Ambrose and S. Augustine who exhorte vs also to repaire to the Catholique Church to beleeue her to set vp our rest in her and from her Maisters and teachers to learne the truth 7. But VVhite obiecteth the authority of the same S. Augustine seeming to teach the contrary when he sayeth By the face of truth I knâ—w Christ the truth it self By the face of truth I know the Church pertaker of the truth So he perfidiously translateth S. Austines words detorteth his meaning from the scope of his discourse For S. Augustine disputing against them who confined the Church within the borders of Africa proueth out of the holy Scriptures out of the word of God and authour of truth that it is vniuersally spread ouer all the earth After this he inferreth out of the mouth of truth not as he treacherously englisheth it by the face of truth I know Christ the truth it self out of the mouth of truth I know the White falsly traÌ„slateth S. Augustins wordes Church pertaker of the truth that is as by the cleere testimonyes of the word of God I know Christ the truth it self so by the like cleere testimonyes do I know the vniuersality of the thurch partaker of the truth which the donatistes denyed This one property of the Church he learned from the mouth of truth not the true Church it selfe from the pure preaching of the word in all necessary points of faith as White misconstrueth his meaning For S. Augustine expresly teacheth some few leaues after that Christ himself the foundation and ground of all consequently his Incarnation his death Passion cannot Christum ignoret necesse est qui Ecclesiam eius nescit in qua sola cognosi potest Aug. in psal 69. be known but by the Church It is necessary saith he he be ignorant of Christ who is ignorant of his Church in which only he may be knowne Therefore the notice of the Church leadeth vs to the knowledge of Christ and not e contra especially seeing we cannot rightly spell the words and tel the sense of scripture nor know that scriptures are nor vnderstand and beleeue what is signifyed by the name of Christ vnles we were first instructed by the Church 8. Lastly if before we come to the knowledge of the Church we must learne her faith why do wee after seeke to the Church when we haue already obteyned the treasure of truth for which we sought vnto her if before we geue credit to the Church we must examine her doctrine whether it be true or false if before we accept her interpretation of scripture we must try whether it agree with the sense and connexion of the self same scripture if after such collation and diligent conference we may lawfully renounce or follow the Church whereinsoeuer we deeme it sutable or disagreeable to the written word we must be examiners and iudges both of the Church and Scripture priuate men must censure publique vnlearned sheep controle their Pastours the â—reatest and a city confusion and absurdity that can be imagined VVhite in his way to the church §. 30. fol. 127. which yet is nothing the lesse by VVhites colouring of it and saying that They examine and iudge not by their owne priuate humours but by the publike word of God which in the Scripture speaketh Or as he sayth in another place By the spirit of God in the scripture because his spirit his publike Idem § 27 fol. 116. word speaking in the Scripture
is not any way distinguished from the Scripture it selfe no more then the mind of a Prince set downe in his law or diuulged in See more of this matter in the first part of the Antitode and first Controuersy his proclamation is any way different from the proclamation or law Therfore if the Scripture cannot open by her selfe the true sense of the Holy Ghost neither by the spirit of God as it precisely speaketh by the Scripture Againe his diuine spirit manifested in the Scripture is challenged by the Church which hath pablike authority to expound Scripture and so to be preferred before the iudgment of her hearers or if they presume to draw it to their priuate construction they by their owne priuate Ciccro in oratione pro domo sua Quid est tam arrogans quaÌ„ de religione de rebus diuinis ceremonijs sacris pontificum collegium docere conari humours or which is all one in substance though expressed in smoother termes they by their in ward imagined motions of the holy Ghost iudge of the publique word contrary to their Pastours iudgment they examin censure reiect approue whatsoeuer seemeth good vnto them not making Gods publique word as they falsely giue out but themselues iudges partyes and vmpiers of all Which Cicero and Metellus amongst the Heathens S. Gregory Nazianzen amongst Christians seriously reprehend as a most insolent part Neither do Protestants only make themselues iudges and supreme controllers but which in euery art and science is most ridiculous They are as Tertullian in the like case derideth others first perfect Catechumens before they be taught doctours before they be schollers Metellus apud TituÌ„ Liuium decade 3. Nazian in oratiâ—ne qua se excusat quod â—â— Ecclesiae abstinuerit functione Vos inquit oues nâ—lite pasâ—ere pastores neque super terâ—inos â—orâ—â— eleuamini c. Nolite iudicare iudices neque legem feratis legis-latoribus Tertul. de praes cont haer â— 41. antâ— sunt prefecti cathecumeni quà m edocti for when as they cannot be catechized nor instructed in fayth but by the true Church by her Pastours and teachers if to descry and know the Church they must be first acquainted with all necessary articles of beliefe her essentiall and inseparable markes they must first become Maisters in their Catechisme before they be admitted into the schoole of Catechumens first arriue to the perfection of Doctours before they be taught the Alphabet of Schollers that is sufficiently to know and vnderstand the mysteryes of fayth before they can receaue or learne them from the faythfull And seeing Fayth alone iustifyeth the belieuing Protestant he by this dotage is truly iustifyed in the sight of God is pardoned his sinnes is inwardly sanctifyed and vnited vnto Christ before he be incorporated in his body the Church 9. In summe although our Reformers notes were allowed as good vet for the finding out of their Church especially before Luthers dayes they would be as far to seeke as euer before because the pure doctrine cannot be taught without some men to teach it and people to heare it without it fructify and increase in the hartes of some But no Protestants can be discouered before that incestuous Fryar marryed a Nunne who either preached or belieued the Protestants Ghospel as I shall manifestly shew in the Chapters ensuing Therefore no Church can they decipher by their owne deuised markes CHAP. XI Wherein is shewed That our Sectaryes had not any Preachers of the Word nor Administration of Sacraments nor any Church at all before Luther began Against D. Fulke and D. Sparke MOST true is that oracle of holy scripture Euery one that doth ill hateth the light and commeth not to the light that his workes Ioan. â— v. 20. may not be controlled Which very fitly describeth the condition of our Sectaryes who in al their chiefest controuersies betweene them and vs cunningly shun the open field of publike triall and fly to the ambush of darke and hidden and deceitfull answeres For in expounding of Scriptures whome make they their last and finall Iudge Their own priuate and secret spirit Who faythfull belieuers The elect and predestinate only known to God What marks doe they assigne to find out the Church The true preaching Fulke in c. 2. Thess 2. sect 5. c. 12. Apo. sect 2. in c. 20. sect 6. Tertul. de resur carn of the word c. more hard to know then the Church it selfe they labour to find Where doe they say their Preachers were or Church continued Marry for many hundred yeares Hid in corners sayth D Fulke chased into the desert euen amongst the ruines of the visible Church Are not these the Lucifugae shunners of light of whome Tertullian speaketh Are they not afrayd to appeare in the sight of men least their treacheries be discouered 2. We proceed and intreate them to set downe in what particuler Country vnder what climate or signe of the heauens these their dumbe Pastours not able to barke this their ruined house and decayed Church lay hid so long We desire to know who were the men In what places and after what fashion they liued Sparke Sparkes in his answer to M. Iohn d' Albins pag. 122. maketh answere vnto vs You do our Church and her Ministers double wrong First in thus chasing them into wildernes there to saue themselues from your fury and then yet exacting at our hands the names of them whome God by thus hiding them preserued to continue his Church Yea Was God so impotent as he could not preserue them without hiding of them Is this no wrong Matt. 5. v. 14. Dan. 12. v. 3. Matt. 5. v. 13. Act. 1. v 8. Eccles 19. v 12. 13. 14. 15. Eccles 39. v. 12. 13. 14. 15. to God Do you no wronge to Christ in drawing his dominion from the largenes of the world in hiding his Church which he absolutly sayd could not be hidden And doe we wrong you in defining to know in what corners you hide it Did not Christ to continue his Church appoint visible Sacraments visible Pastours visible Gouernours who should be lights of the world stars of heauen salte of the earrh witnes of his name interpreters of his word whose wisedome many should after extoll whose memory should not decay nor glory be extinguished whose names should be rehearsed from generation to generation and whose prayses the Church should continually set forth And do we wrong you in asking the role of these mens names Such wrong Tertullian S. Pacian Optatus Tertu l. de praesc Pacian ep ad Sempr. Optag l. 2. con Par. Aug in psal cont parâ— Don. Sparkes in his answer to M. Iohn d' Albins pag. 53. S. Augustine and diuers others haue done to the heretikes of their dayes in challenging them to set downe the rowe of their predecessours and such wrong the Church of God hath taught vs to offer to all new Sectaryes 3. Why then M.
the building of their discorded Babell because the most of them liued at diuers tymes in diuers Countryes without any mutuall Society or lineall descent and with the interruption of many yeares one from the other For VVickliffe was furnished with no authority instruction or consecration to preach or administer Sacraments from the VValdenses nor the VValdenses from Berengarius nor Berengarius from Iouinian nor he from Aerius They all started vp of themselues maynteyned their seueuerall sects in seuerall ages without knowledge or agreements without deriuation of fayth and ecclesiasticall power from those their Predecessours which is necessary to vphould and continue the perpetuall and mediate succession of the Church Nay they were so farre froÌ„ composing an hereditary pedigrece or line of descent amongst themselues as they were all for the most part or Epiphan Prat. l. 1. Elenchi v. AeriaÌ„ Aug. haer â—2 Prat. in Eieae verbo Berengar Fox in his act monuments fol. 628. Stow in his Annalls pag. 464. M. Iacob in his defeÌ„ce of the Churches and Ministery of EnglaÌ„d pag. 13. Georg. Milius in explicatione Conf. August Art 7. pag. 137. 138. their chiefe beginners prime founders of our religion before they brake forth into schisme and heresy So Aerius was a Priest and disciple to Eustachius Bishop of Sebasta in Pontus Iouinian a Monke of the Citty of Rome in Italy Berengarius Archdeacon of Angiers in France VValdo a rich and Catholike Marchant of Lions VVickliffe a sacrifying Priest the Parson of Lutterworth in Leicester shire who sayd Masse if Maister Iacob an earnest Protestant may be credited eâ—eÌ„ to his dying day Therefore they had no Church in which they were borne none froÌ„ whence they were propagated but only ours the Protestants Church had no being wheÌ„ they beganne no being in England when wickliffe in Lyons when VValdo in any other Countrey when the former sectaryes peeped vp neyther of late had it any being in Scotland when Knox in France when Caluin in Suitzerland when Zuinglius in Germany when Luther first preached his ghospell For as Georgius Milius wisely obserueth graunt that Luther had any predecessours and Lutherans reformation wil be altogeather needles 6. Finally if Protestants had any complices or vpholders of their sect in Morauia Bohemia Calabria 〈◊〉 the largest tractes M. Fulke nameth for the openly Fulke in cap. 12. Apoc sect 2. â—nowne continuance of his Church they should haue gone and deriued from them the pedigree of their Pastors their power and commission to preach the gospell They as all other preachers in former tymes haue beene accustomed when their authority hath beene called in question should haue asked of them Litteras formatas dimissory or testimoniall letters to giue testimony of their calling which Our ghospellers had no testimoniall letters froÌ„ any church or Pastour before their dayes Iero. ep 89. we haue so often conuinced to be surreptitions and vsurped For if Saint Paul had not had as Saint Hierome sayth security of preaching the gospell if it had not beene approued by Peters sentence and the rest that were with him who were vndoubtedly imbraced as true Apostles how durst you without â—ny allowance and approbation of your auncestours â—eginne to preach your Ptotestant fayth Was it inough â—ou gathered it by your owne diligent yet deccauable interpretation out of the holy Scriptures And was â—t not inough for him to haue his Gospel by infallible reâ—elation immediatly from God Had he lost his labour runne in vaine without the attestation of the Pastours of the Church And do you thinke to reape any fruite by preaching without any euidence or approbation from Christes vicegerentes vpon earth Yf he who had his doctrine from heauen at least as Reynoldes graunteth to ad Galat. 2. v. 2. Reynoldes in his conference c. 4 diuis 2. fol. 134. Theophil l. 2. de paschat stop the mouthes of false seducers who disgraced him â—s lately crept into the Apostleship did conferre with â—â—ter and the rest of his predecessours why did not you â—â—stly accused by vs as wrongefull intruders as wolfes vsurpers put your doctrine to the like triall conference â—â—d examination of your forerunners Theophilus Bishop oâ— Alexandria anoucheth of Origen that he was possessed with the spirit of pride because he conferred not his faith with his auncestours as Saint Paul did and were you hinâ—ered with the like spirit from putting your doctrine to the approbation of the Church Or was it because you had not indeed any Church in the world any Bishop to impose handes vpon you any Temple Oratory Iudge or Tribunall to haue recourse vnto not any man liuing to approue your fayth or giue testimony of your calling but such as you had first seduced and bewitched with your follyes CHAP. XIII Wherein is ouerthrowne the like Clayme which Protestants make to the Professours of the Roman Church agaynst Doctour Fielde and Mayster White MAISTER Doctour Field and Maister White not finding sufficient stones amongst the forenamed heretikes to rayse the Temple of their Sectaryes not finding any publike assemblies in Morauia Bohemia Calabria c. nor any latent and hidden resortes in the Hyrcinian woods other parts of Europe proper to themselues they lay hold on the chiefest Rocks and pillers of our Church to stay vp thier ruinous sheep-cote And as the harlot before Salomon hauing killed her â— Reg. 3. owne pretended right to anothers child So they in behalfe of their barren and harlotry Conuenticles depriued of true parents and maynteyners of their beliefe entitle themselues to the noble issue of our fruitfull Mother to the right of her ordinary succession and lawfull â—aâ—ours For Field auerres of the Protestant Church that Before Luthers dayes it was the knowne and apparent Church in the Field in 3. booke of of the Church ca. 6. pag. 72. VVhitein his defence of the way to the true Church ca. 44. fol. 424. Fulke in c. 20. Apoc. sect 6 Field ibid. pag. 73. VVhite in his way to the true Church §. 45. fol 338. and. § 50. fol. 372. in his defence of the same way c. 44. fol. 420. VVhitak cont 2 pa. 165. world wherein allour Fathers liued and dyed wherin Luther and the rest were baptized receaued their Christianity ordination power of mynistery Which White acknowledgeth saying For the first 600. hundred we assigne the Church wherein the Fathers liued and for the rest to this day we will assigne no other catalogue then the Church of Rome it selfe Thus the Protestants Church which in the opinion of their greatest Clarkes was latent and inuisible or which continued in desert corners before Luthers appearing is now by their followers made at the same tyme famous and apparent euen the glorious renowned Church of Rome it selfe so ill do the schollers agree with their Maysters the children with their Fathers But when we oppose against theÌ„ that the Church of Rome is that superstitious and Antichristian Church
vnto death in this deadly schisme and vnreconciliable hatred the one agaynst the other To leaue forraine contentions and speake of domesticall VVhitak contro 2. quaest 6. c. 3. Fulke in cap. 11. Matt. sect 5. Hooker it s in his Eccl. poli lib. 2. pa 101. Co. in his def c. art 7. pag. 54. Perkins in his refor Catholikp 55. Abbot in his def c. c. 3. se 8. 9. 10 Sparke in his answer to M. Iohn d'Albins f. 281. 28â— 283. VVhitak vbi supra Field l. 3. cap. 22. fo 118. 119. Ouerall in the confer pa 41. 42. Fulke in c. 3. IoaÌ„ sect 2. in 2â— Actorum sect 10. VVhitakâ—r contro 1. quaest 6. c. 3. VVhit ibid. 57. Bils in his true difference c. p. 4. p. 586. 587 Casaub in his answere to Card. Per. p. 20. in eng M. Iacob in his def p. 88. Harm p. 80. 81. 82. VVhite in his way to the true Church §. 33. fol. 138. of our gospellers amongst themselues in such pointes of sayth as they confesse to be substantiall 4. Whitaker and Folke peremptorily define the coÌ„maundements of God impossible to be kept and the former of â—hem â—egâ—â—â—eth this as a fundamentall point M. Hooker and Doctour Concil eagerly gayne lay it and sincerely hold they may be kept Mayâ—â—er Perkins Doctour Abbot and Doctour Sparke maynteine that the faythfull once instifyed cannot fallout of the state of grace with whome Mayster Whitaker agreeth and setteth it downe as a fundamentall point And Sparke sayth the contrary is a most dangerous errour Doctour Field notwithstanding Doctour Oueral now Bishop of Couentry and Lichfield defend they may by grieuous sinns fall from grace into the present state of wrath and damnation whose opinion his Maiesty approued with his royall assent in the conference at Hampton Court Fulke sucketh from Caluin and Whitaker engrosseth it as a point fundamentall That the Sacramentes are not necessary to saluation That they signify only but they cause no grace And of Baptisme by name Whitaker sayth Our safety dependeth not of the outward lotion but on the meritts of Christ on the meere election and promise of God Mayster Hooker and Mayster Bilson contrary wise affirme the Sacraments necessary to saluation and that they do cause grace and that our safety so much dependeth on the outward lotion as infants quoth Bilson cannot enter the Kingdome of heauen nor be heyres with Christ before they be engrassed into Christ by Baptisme A little after The Church absolutely and slatly may not assure saluation to children vnbaptized Which Casaubon also in his Maiesties name alloweth as most true Mayster Iacob with the harmony of confessions which Mayster white honoureth as the touchstone of his beleefe approueth a disparity of sinns â—ome to be veniall not all to deserue eternall death Fuâ—â—â— â—ulke 〈…〉 Matth. sect 6. 〈…〉 in c. Rom. sect 11. VVhitak vbi su fol. 58. 58â— VVillet in his Synop. printed anno Domini 1600. contro 20. VVhitak in his ans to M. CaÌ„pians 8. reason l. 8. aduer Duraeum â— Bilson in his serm Of the full redemptioÌ„ c. Hugh Sanford l. 3. de desc Domini nostri ad inferoâ— sâ—â— 91. 92. 93. 94. c. Reynolds in his secoÌ„d conclusion annexed to his confer VVhitak cont 2. qu. â— cap. 3. f. 274. VVhite §. 14. fol. 79. Bancroft in his sermon preea had the 8. of â—â—br 1588. VVillet in finop p. 48 Field in his first book of the Church c. 20. Hook l. â— sect 8. p. 141. l. 2. p. 103. 12â— Couell in his defence art 8. p. 49. 50. 51. 52. Reyn. in his fift conclu VVill. in his medit vpon the 122. psalm Hook l. 5. p. 140. VVill. in sinop anno Domino 160. p. 789. 788. Bils in his suruey of Christ sufferings and of his des to hell Perkins in his treatise of that mattter San. l. 3. de des Domini nos â—nd Whitaker so bitterly inâ—eigh agaynst that Popish assertiâ—â— as Whitaker protesteth it doth not only ouerthrowe the true â—â—t establish a false foundation Willet and Whitaker blasphemously deny the full sufficâ—ency of our Redemption by Christs corâ—â—rall death without his feeling of eternall damnaation M. Bilson confuteth that diuâ—◠〈◊〉 errour and truly teacheth as we do out of the Scriptures Fathers That he fully redeemed vs with his death on the Crosse and neuer felt noâ—â—o much as dreaded any death of foule or â—orrour of damnation how beit Master Sanford laboureth to answere all his arguments raking the former heresy out of hell defendeth it with such impiety as I wonder so detestable a work is permitted in a Christian common wealth 5. It were an infinit labour to recount all their infinit differences For touching the Church Reynoldes Whitaker and White affirme the whole militant Church vpon earth may erre in manners in doctrine in points of fayth Mayster Bancroft holdeth it cannot erre in matters of fayth Willet sayth it is sometymes inuisible Field it is alwayes visible Touching Euangelicall Councells That a man may doe more then he is bound vnder precept is auouched by Mayster Hooker and Doctour Couell reiected by Doctour Reynolds and Mayster Willet as impious and presumptuous Concerning Christ Hooker defendeth he died for all Willet he died not for al but only for the elect Bilson sayth he descended into hell M. Perkins and Mayster Sanford he descended not into the locall place of hell but only into his graue or scpulcher Touching their Mission some wil haue it ordinary some â—xtraordinary one from the people another from the Prince or house of Parlament A third from the Catholike Clergy which they account false and Antichristian Field l. 3. c. 3â— fo 156. 158. c. Barlow in his Sermon preached September 21. 1606. In which kind Field auerreth endeauoureth to proue That Presbiters to wit Priests and not Bishops may in case of necessity ordeyne Presbiters and Deacons and he graunteth many of the reformed Churches namely those of France and others to haue had no other ordination But William Barlow late Bishop of Rochester in his Sermon concerning the antiquity and superiority of Bishops preached before the King at Hampton Court affirmeth and proueth That Neyther the Apostles nor Church of Christ succeeding would admit any other but Bishops to that busines as not iustifiable for Presbiters eyther by reason example or Scriptur Againe he addeth If any of the inferiour rancks vnder Bishops presumed to do it his act was reuersed by the Church for vnlawfull Lastly concerning the Regiment of their Church the consistory of Geneua in the confession of their fayth approued by Caluin and Beza detest the Papisticall hierarchy of the Church of England as vsurped and diabolicall All English Puritans abhorre the same accounting the Protestant Doctour VVhitgift against Cart. Hooker in his book of â—â—polâ—â—y Mason in his 4. bookes 1. King Iam. in his premonitioÌ„ pag. 44. The Auth. of the 12. Arguments
Father hath not planted shal be rooted vp 2. By this marke you shall see that the profession of our new gospellers is a bastardly slippe and the Romane Foure notes or branches of stability by which the RomaÌ„ Church is proued to be the true Church of Christ Fayth the only stable and vnconquerable truth First if you consider how this Roman fayth alone hath beene euer impugned by all kind of aduersaryes yet still remayned victorious Secondly how by it selfe it maynteyned her right agaynst them all without any forrayne helpe or succour Thirdly how it hath alwayes orderly proceeded by subduing them as a Queene or Empresse by absolute authority and iuridicall power Fourthly how in these encounters it hath neuer altered or changed her fayth neuer relented or yealded to her enemyes in any point little or great but hath still florished and preuayled agaynst them 3. Euery one of these notes are prerogatiues of The Roman Church shewed to be true because that alone is impugned by al false and hereticall conuenticles the true Church For all vices and errours though contrary in themselues agree in this that they are opposite vnto vertue opposite vnto truth So all sectes and heresies though neuer so repugnant one from the other yet all ioyne to make open warre agaynst the true fayth and Church of God The Sadduceans Pharisies Herodians were at deadly foe amongst themselues notwithstanding they made league and linked togeather in persecuting of Christ Thus the Roman Church only no other hath beene euer pursued by all the rebellious sects that euer were Agaynst her the Simonians Cerinthians Micolaits Eutichians Nacedonians in former tymes Agaynst her the Anabaptistes Brownistes Lutherans Caluinists Armenians Gomotistes and all Protestants bid battayle now a dayes Agaynst her the Turkes Iewes Pagans Polititians and Atheistes pitch their tents Against her the heathenish and other wicked Emperours haue bent their forces Dioclesian Valens Iulian Constantius Leo Isaurus Constantinus Copronymus Fredericus c Against her all the powers of hell and might of Sathan hath opposed yet could neuer preuayle She is therefore the house of God built vpon a rocke on Matt. 7. v. 24. 25. which the rayne fell the flouds came the windes blew but cold not ouerthrow it She is the Campe of Israell assaulted by all her bordering enemies yet neuer vanquished by any The 2. Reg. 7. throne of Salomon established for euer The Kingdome of Christ often impugned yet victoriously triumphing Aug. inps 47. The Roman Church the vncoÌ„querable truth because it resisteth ouercommeth by it self without help of others ouer all the Kingdomes of the earth 4. Secondly the Roman Church hath thus defended her selfe and gotten the victory without the association or confederacy of any Church She by her selfe vnder the protection of God hath stoutly atchieued these wonderfull conquests She by her owne men by the Bishops Prelates and other secular and religious persons of her owne profession hath maynteyned her Catholike Orthodoxall fayth with patience agaynst the stormes of persecutours with reasons agaynst the subtility of Philosophers with Scriptures against heretikes with prophecies agaynst the Iewes with prescriptions agaynst the Turkes with Christian prudence agaynst the Macihuelians with naturall arguments agaynst the Atheists Pagans with miracles agaynst the weake with consent fame and authority agaynst the proude and haughty Agaynst these and all others our Church alone hath in all ages euer since Christ his tyme with vnmatcheable wisdome and power vncontrolable vpholden the right and glory of her cause by helpes taken out of her owne armory with weapons of her owne Whereas her aduersaryes haue still ayded one another still called vpon forayne Sect aryes and false Churches are forced to borrow help one from the other succours to support backe them as our sectaries now implore the ayde of sundry heretiks to make some mâ—ster or shew of pretended Gospellers to encounter with vs not vnlike to Cataline the rebell who associated himselfe with all the dissolute ruffianlike vicious and forlorne refuse of what kind soeuer they were to warre agaynst his Countrey For so our English ProtestaÌ„ts linke in communion first with their fellow Puritans whome one of their owne brethren tearmeth Apostolikes Aerians Tull. orat 1. 2. 3. in Catal. Ormer dia. 1. Pepuzians Petrobusians Florinians Cerinthians Nazarens Beguardines Ebionites Catabaptides Catharists Iouianistes c. Then both Puritans and Protestants band with the Lutherans Caluinists Hussites Wickelifists Albigenses As heretiks begge men so likewise munition from forrenners VVhitak in resp ad Sand. Col. l 4. iust c. 9. §. 8. Fulk in his confutation of Purgatory Beza epist Theo. 81. VVhitg in his def Hooker in his preface to his eccl pol. pa. 24. 25. 26. 27. The Bish Confer at Hampt Court Picards with other such monsters more hideous and mishapen in profession then ill fauoured in names With them they ioyne frendship to fill vp the number of their mutinous and disloyall Army 5. Neither is it inough for theÌ„ to beg the supply of forrayne souldiers but their weapons also they steale froÌ„ others For when the Protestant would annoy the Puritan he putteth on the armour of our doctours Councells ordinances and prescriptions When he defendeth his quarrell agaynst Catholikes he flyeth to the secret ambushes and retrayts of Puritans he relieth wholy on their hidden spirit by it he will trye the sayings of Fathers and decrees of Councells By that Whitaker cassieereth a full senate of Fathers Caluin examineth general CouÌ„cells Fulke maketh hauocke of all antiquity Farre otherwise doth Beza with the Trinitaryes Mayster Whitgift with Cartwright Maister Hooker Doctour Couell and the Protestant Bishops in their coÌ„ference with Puritans disprouing them by our principles of tradition Besides from vs they borow their Scriptures their lawes their constitutions their ecclesiasticall gouernement and hierarchy of their Clergy With these rags of popery as both their and our enemyes seeke to disgrace them with these stollen feathers they are wont to glory like the Horatian daw In so much as some of their owne Protestants complaine of the present Ministry and Church of England That their Pontificall wherby they consecrate Bishops make ministers and deacons is nothing else but a thinge word for word drawn out Admo to the Parlia of the Popes Pontificall 6. Besides as they embezell from vs all that is laudable orderly or good amongst them so their dregges of Aug. l. de bar cap. 53. Guido Carmelit in su Coal l. de histor Hussi Syn. Constann sess 8. Lat. l. ad BereÌ„g Nicep in hist eccles l. 16. ca. 27. Bucching in eccl hist Prat. ver Nouatiani Ierem. lib. contra Virgilan Euthimius in Panopl par 2. tit 21. Theod. l. 4. haer fab Dam. l. de cent haer Iero. in lib. ad Vigil Ioui Ionas Aureliaâ—ensis apud SaÌ„d l. 7. de de visi mo Irae l. 1. c. 20. Epiph haer 64 Theod. l. 4. haer
the Protestants and Puritans in England of whome M. Ormerod witnesseth Puritans differ from Protestants in thinges fundamentall and substantiall Puritans doe not agree with Protestants in all matters of fayth So the Arminians dissente from the Orme dia. 2. Gomoristes in the law Countryes The Caluinistes of Geneua from the Lutherans of Saxony The Lutherans of Saxony from the Zuinglians of Tygurum They from the Aug. tom 7. de vnit eccl cap. 3. Osiandrines of Prussia the Osiandrines from the Anabaptistes of Westphalia c. as hath beene partly vnfolded in the first note of vnity 3. Therefore as Saint Augustine disputed agaynst diuers heretikes of his age Yf the holy Scriptures designe the Church in Africa only c. the Donatistes alone counteyne the Church Yf in a few Mores of the prouince of Cesarea we must repayre to the Regatistes c. If in the Easterne people only Amongst the Arians Macedonians and Eunonians c. the Church is to be sought After the like manner if the Caluinistes haue the truth to Geneua a few Cantons in France we must all resort Yf the Protestants to England if the Zuinglians to Tigurum if the rigide Lutherans to Saxony if the soft to Wittemberge Lipsia and Magdeburge c. For all these being so opposit cannot enioy the right fayth or if they could they be but parts of the world small tractes of the earth farre lesse then Africa farre lesse then the East to which the Church of God as Saint Augustine discourseth could not be confined For he goeth forward in the alleadged place Aug. lo ci But if the Church of Christ by diuine and most certayne testimonies of canonicall Scriptures be described in all nations whatsoeuer they shall Aug. tom 4. q. euang l. 1. q. 38. bringe or from whencesoeuer they shall write it who say behold here is Christ behold there Let vs listen rather if we be his sheepe to the voyce of our pastour saying doe you not belieeue because his Church quoth he shal manifestly shine like a lightning frō the east to the west that is ouer all the world 4. Now if the Kingdome of the Messias be the greatest and largest amongst all that professe the name of Christ if it be the sole and vniuersall Kingdome of all nations and if this be the thinge signified by the name Catholike not only that title which M. Abbot alloweth vs but the thinge also entitled the thinge betokened thereby the prerogatiue of Vniuersality appertayneth to vs. Fo◠we farre exceede the Protestants and all other sectaries of our dayes in multitude of people in variety of nations in troupes of followers in dignity of patrons in society of Princes who linke themselues to the body of our Church In so much as I may vrge M. Abbot as Saint Pacian did Sympronian Number if you can our Catholike flockes Abbot in his answ to D. Bishops epist to the King pag. 16. and 17. Paciā ep 3. ad Symp. sub finem Count vpon your fingers the swarmes of our people not those now which are dispersed throughout the world aboundant in all countryes but those brother Sympronian which dwell with you in the allied prouinces in the neighbour cittyes Contemplate how many of ours thou alone beholdest with how many of our people thou alone meetest Art thou not swallowed vp by vs as the eue droppings by great fountaynes as by the Ocean little bubles of water are consumed 5. Yf we should now compare Roman Catholikes with Protestants euen in these regions of Europe the same might we auouch of their paucity in respect of vs. Catholiks are in all countryes wher protestants raygne openly knowne But if we should passe out of Europe what townes or villages what Chappell 's or Oratoryes can they reckon vp in Asia Africa America c. how many Indians Ethiophians Iaponians How many of their sect can they name in China in Brasilia in Magellanica Not any one no publike Church haue they or Chappell out of Europe of any other then such as traffike in these parts Notwithstanding as we abound with many of our religion in all those remote Protestāts not hard of in a hundred Kingdomes where Catholikes flourish and forrayne Countries where the name of Protestants is vnknowne So in all the Prouinces in euery corner which sectaryes in habite we want not those who openly defend and professe our fayth We haue them in Germany low Countryes England and the Cantons of France To which purpose Saint Augustine speaking of sundry heresies and of the Church very fitly sayth They in many nations where this is are not found but this which is euery where there where they are is also found Aug. de vn eccles c. 3. 6. The first reason why God would haue his Church so vniuersall was to manifest his loue to all creatures that all people might partake of the riches of his Isay 54. v. 5. mercy That all might receaue the happy tidinges of their redemption and meanes of saluation And that he who was God of Israel might now as I say prophesied be God Prou. 14. vers 28. of all the earth The second reason was for the honour of the Son of God for the glory of his name for the reward of his merits To which effect S. Austine applyeth that saying Iero. dialo aduer Lucifer of Salomon In the multitude of people the dignity of the King and in the fewnes of people the ignominy of the Prince Therefore Saint Ierome accounteth it a great ignominy to Christ to haue the Empires of his Church the trophies of his Crosse Optat. l. ◠cōtra Par. as he tearmeth them restrayned to corners And Optatus blameth Parmenian for the like Yf so at your pleasure you barre vp the Church in a narrow roome if you withdraw all nations where Psal 2. is that which the sonne of God hath merited VVhere is that which his Father willingly bestowed vpon him saying I will giue thee Gentills forthy inheritance endes of the earth thy possession VVhy do you violate such a promise that the latitude of Kingdomes should be shut vp by you as it were in a prison How labour you to resist so great piety what meane you to make warre agaynst the merits of our Sauiour Permit the Sonne to enioy his legacies Permit the Father to fullfill his promises VVhy place you bounds why appoint you limits 7. The third and last reason is for the perswasion and stay of the faythfull For what greater motiue of credibility can we haue then the authority of so many and so learned men the fame celebrity consent of all nations This S. Augustine often proposeth as a weighty Aug vtil credendi c. 14. 17. argument which first induced and after strengthened him in our Catholike fayth Others by the very light of nature esteemed it also as a thinge most worthy of credite Seneca sayd VVe are wont to attribute much
Church as a flatterer stileth him wrote directly agaynst them Where was that ordinary succession ordinary calling common consecration of Protestant superintendents of which M. Mason braggeth so much by three of our Bishops or such as were ordeyned by them when Whitaker denyed their Prelates and ministers to be ordeyned by Papisticall Bishops When he â—aught that they ought not to be created by them That the manner of consecrating by three Bishops Ibid. f. 308. did not take place in their lapsed Church That Catholique Bishops could not be induced to lay hands vpon Ricard Stock in dedicatory epist to my them That their succession was extraordinary not according to the receaued manner Were Masons ordinations then a foote His forged consecrations euery where practised when Whitaker so often and so aduisedly Lord Knowles protesteth the contrary But into such contradictions they are wont to fal who wrongfully lay claim to false pretended titles Mason lib. 1. 2. 3. 22. The chiefe reason which moued Mayster Whitaker Mayster Fulke and their consortes thus to disclaime froÌ„ the ordination of Catholike Bishops was because VVhitak contro 2. q. 3. cap 1. folio 184. Episcopi qui secuti GregoriuÌ„ magnum verifuerunt Antichristi Fulke in c. 20. Apo. sect 2. Sparke in his answere to M. Iohn d' Aâ—bins p. 23. they most iniuriously accounted them antichristian Prelates The Bishops sayth Whitaker which followed Gregory the great were true Antichrists They were as Fulke miscalleth them Prelates of the Antichristian Church Right Priests of Antichrist sayth D. Sparke yea nothing is more common among them then to cal our people the limmes of Antichrist our Church the congregation of Antichrist our Priests Fulke in c. 2. ad Thess sect 9. and in c. 17. Apo. sect 1. 4 in other of his works and Bishops the slaues and shauelinges of Antichrist our Popes euen Antichrists themselues Which although they be most malicious and spiâ—ifull calumniations howsoeuer Mayster Powell belieueth the letter as an article of faith Yet see the misery of English Superintendents when to the condemnation of all their neighbour brethren who want that calling they are fayne to begge their spirituall power from such as they misdeeme Antichristian Gabriel Powel in tract de Antichristo p. 2. Bishops when they cannot enter the folde of Christ but by the back-dore of Antichrist nor minister his Sacraments but by ordination from Antichrist nor feede his sheepe but by commission from Antichrist nor receaue holy orders and conferre them to others but by the authority ProtestaÌ„ts aredriuen to great extremityes wheÌ„ they beg from Antichrist all their christian rites of Antichrist Was the sonne of God so needy The Church his spouse become so bankrupt as not to haue any power or iurisdiction left but what it borrowed from Antichrist her deadly enemy Was Christ disrobed of all his inheritance and after so many ages did he repaire to you to restore him his right by the meanes of Antichrist By his slauish army by his Antichristian Idolatours O M. Mason how base are your thoughts how miserable your clergy when you are forced to run to this miserable refuge To go on Protestant mynisters want true mission or vocatioÌ„ to preach 23. The last defect of Protestant ministery is mission or vocation to preach which is so necessary to the function of a lawfull Pastour and duâ—y of the faythfull as Saint Paul sayth How shall they belieue him whome they haue not heard And how shall heare without a preacher But how shall they preach vnlesse they be sent In which words he chaineth together in a linke inseparably these fower thinges Fayth Hearing Rom. 10. v. 14. 15. Preacher and Mission and as Hearing is requisite in the belieuer that â—e may rightly belieue so Mission in the preacher that he may lawfully preach This mission or calling is of two sortes the one immediatly from God which is called an extraordinary Mission ought to be proued by apparant miracles the irreproueable seales conformations of Gods will The other mediatly only by authority communicated vnto them from Apostolicall men the vicegerents of Christ vpon earth which is tearmed an ordinary vocation the vsuall Mission now Matth. 28. Rom. 10. Eph. 4. Luther Tom. 5. â— VViteÌ„ in c. 1. ad Galat. folio 376. practised in the Church and which hath continued according to the promise of Christ and testimony of the Apostle confessed by Luther and shall continue euen to the end of the world without which whosoeuer arrogateth the name of a Preacher he is an vsurper an intruder that rusheth in at the window and entreth not at the dore he is a wolfe a theefe who cometh not but to steale kill destroy 24. Wherefore although we should bestow vpon Protestants the almes of ordination they so importunatly begge although they could deriue a true consecration Eavocatio durauit vsque ad nostra teÌ„pora durabit vsque ad finem muÌ„di which they shall neuer be able from Catholique Bishops yet their Commission and warrant to preach their Caluinisticall doctrine their vocation thereunto they can neuer shew For let them tell me who called them to that office Who gaue them authority to preach their Protestant fayth Temporall Princes and secular people whome Mayster Whitaker assigneth They cannot communicat that spirituall power they cannot preach themselues much lesse enable others to discharge that office VVhitak contro 2. q. 5. ca. 6. f. 36â— Agayne what Princes or people might they be No Catholike Princes would giue them commission to preach Protestant doctrine No Protestant Princes or people were heard of vntill Luther and his disciples had publiquely In vayne do ProtestaÌ„t mynisters pretend their calling from temporall Princes or secular magistrates preached their Protestant Ghospell In vayne then doe they seeke their calling from these Will they pleade it from some ecclesiasticall persons Priestes or Bishops But I haue often inculcated that there was not any Protestant Priest or Bishop in the world when these Sectaryes first beganne and as for Catholique Bishops they were so farre from giuing them any Commission to preach or power to mynister Sacraments after their manner as they excommunicated and forbad them all pulpits and oratoryes renounced all society and participation in Sacraments with them laboured by all meanes possible to hinder suppresse their false and new coyned Gospell Therefore M. Mason striueth to vnderprop their Mission not by letters of credit from any secular magistrates or orthodoxall Bishops but by the broad seale forsooth as he falsly supposeth of holy Scripture the common warrant to which euery heretique seemeth to lay clayme saying Cranmer the rest receaued Mason l. 2. c. 2. folio 11. from you the shell of succession without the kernell of doctrine For though our Church did giue men power to preach the truth yet being bewitched with Antichrist in many things it did not reueale the
Truth But when God by the Scriptures reuealed it vnto them they both preached it themselues commended it to posterity So that the thinges reuealed vnto them in Scripture was all the Our Ghospellers haue no certayne rule to know their reuelation froÌ„ Scripture to be true warrant they had to preach such Protestant articles as they now maynteyne contrary to the approued doctrin of the Church 25. But I inquire of M. Mason what reuelation it was they had from Scripture Was it the priuate interpretation they made thereof That is fallible and subiect to errour That reuelation euery heretique challengeth and with as much reason maynteyneth it as any Protestant doth his Was it as others pretend the publique voyce of God which spake in Scripture But this In the first part of the Antidote in the first second chapter is a meere collusion of words to beguile the simple For the voyce of God speaking in Scripture is nothing els but the very text of Scripture the wordes and sentences vttered in Scripture as I haue elsewhere often declared Was it their industry labour in conferring reading finding out the true sense of Scripture But this industry was also deceauable as I haue inuincibly demonstrated Our Ghospellers haue not the true Christian fayth concerning any article whatsoeuer in the first controuersy of my Antidote Therefore Protestantes could haue no reuelation from Scripture wherreby they might be infallibly certayn which is necessary to sayth of the truth they deliuered Yea although they should haue lighted vpon the true meaning of some essentiall article of beliefe yet that article so taught and belieued because they so interprete that place of Scripture was not any article of Christian fayth not that diuine fayth which we are commanded to imbrace but a meere humane verity a humane fayth The reason is In the 9. chapter of this third part because the thing belieued causeth not fayth but the infallible motiue for which we belieue it that motiue in Protestants is altogeather fallible as hath been elswhere more largely conuinced Therefore the reuealed truth Luther in expo Ep. ad Galat. cap. 1. folio 215. printed ad VVittemberge by Ioan. Luâ—â— 1954. which they belieue is also fallible 26. Besides Truth reuealed to Protestants in holy Scripture is not sufficient for their Legantine power vnles the legacy also or charge of preaching be coÌ„mitted vnto them It is not inough sayth Luther their chiefe Patriarch for a man to haue the word and purity of doctrine but also he must be assured of his calling not of his calling oÌ„ly to Prieststood by the shell as you tearme it of succession or ceremony of ordination but of his calling and commission giuen to preach and recommend vnto posterity the kernell of Luther ibidem folio 276. doctrine This Mission this vocation he must also haue and that from men or els although thou wert as Luther sayth wiser then Salomon wiser then Daniell if thou be not called more then hell beware thou cast not out a word And many leaues Ierom. 23. v. 21. after he protesteth of himselfe that although he could deliuer soules from errour and damnation by his holesome doctrine yet he ought to commit the matter to God and not to preach Ezech. 13. v. 6. vnlesse he be called by men For such as do otherwise he tearmeth them impostors miscarryed not with a good but a wicked spirit They are those of whome Ieremy and Ezechiell fore warned vs I sent not the Prophets and they ranne I spake not vnto them they prophesied They see vayne thinges and they diuine lyes saying our Lord sayth whereas our Lord sent them not 27. Therefore albeit we should suppose that these new Gospellers had as Mayster Mason insinuateth power from vs to preach truth which notwithstanding is most false yet when they beganne to preach other doctrine then was deliuered vnto them other then was put into their mouthes by their predecessours therein they lost their calling ranne of themselues preached of themselues not sent from God with extraordinary miracles nor yet from men with ordinary commission to publish that fayth For as he who hath authority Aâ— Ambassadourâ— who alter the legacy of their Prince are not therein to be tearmed his Ambassadours no more can ProtestaÌ„ts be sayd to be sent to alter the coÌ„mission of those that sent them Optatus l. 2. contra Parmen from his Kinge to deliuer an Embassage if he alter or change the Massage of his Prince he cannot therein be truly sayd to be his legate or Ambassadour especially if the King recall or countermaunde whatsoeuer he proposeth contrary to his minde No more can Protestant Ministers though rightly ordered and lawfully called maynteyne their calling or vocation to preach any other truth then such as was commended vnto them much lesse if our Bishops reuerse their commission contradict their doctrine labour by al meanes vtterly to suppresse it For who doubteth but that such as haue power to communicate haue power also to reuoke moderate and restreyne the authority which they giue And whosoeuer persisteth after the reuocation or whosoeuer altereth the tenour of his commission he runneth not sent he prophesieth that which our Lord neuer sayd nor any of his seruants deliuered vnto him he is therein as Optatus wittily iesteth at Victor the Donaeist A sonne without a Father a Nouice without an instructour disciple without a mayster follower without a predecessour prodigiously borne a preacher of himselfe teaching a lesson which he neuer learned of any before For to go backe and say with M. Mason that God by Scriptures reuealed it vnto him is no authenticall or sufficient calling because generally all heretiques boast of the like reuelation all pretend their Mission and calling by Scripture That the Donatistes the Circumcellians the Arians arrogated and had as good warrant God leaueth not Scripture to euery ones priuat exposition but to the interpretation only of his Church for the true meaning of Scripture as any Protestant hath for his exposition Wherefore to auoyd the confusion occasions of errour which might ensue of leauing the Scripture to the particuler interpretations of priuat men it pleaseth God to vnfold the true sense meaning of his will to the publike Pastours preachers of his Church to them he infallibly deliuereth the inheritance of truth of them only we must seeke it to them we are bound to repayre to haue it opened vnto vs from them alone we can haue our vocation to preach it Otherwise euery mad and fanaticall spirit might fondly deuise as Protestants doe what constructions what reuelations he list 28. This reason Iohn Caluin the chiefe Architect of M. Masons religion assigneth why God teacheth not eyther by himselfe or by Angells but by the voyce and Caluin in c. 59. Isa speach of men This order quoth he God hath setled in his Church that they may vaunt themselues in
vayne to be ready to obey him who reiect his Mynisters Therefore he commaundeth the word and doctrine to be required from the mouth of Prophets and Doctours who teach in his name and by his warrant least we foolishly hunt after new reuelations Yf this be so how durst your M. Caluin How durst our sectaryes deliuer a Gospell they neuer tooke from the mouth of any Prophet or Doctour Caluinus contra errores Serueti With what face doe they vaunt of obeying God when they disobey his Mynisters the interpreters of his will How shall we know that they who follow not the setled course prescribed by him doe not foolishly hunt after new reuelations Michael Seruetus forsooke that ordinary way he vsed the like pretense as M. Mason doth of reuelation froÌ„ Scripture the same Caluin inueighed agaynst him That like another Mahomet he rose a restorer of a new world with a new and vnknowne reuelation Is not this sayth he to make voyd the whole glory which Christ hath gotteÌ„ By thy own saying I coÌ„demne thee and thy fellowes o vngracious seruant For by the same argument thou o Caluin art like another Mahomet Caluin his followers come like Mahomet with new reuelations the English sectaryes progenitours like so many Mahomets who contrary to the publike truth receaued in the Church challenged another reuealed to them out of holy Scripture With whome I reason thus When Cranmer in England or any other beganne to vent their reformed Gospell eyther the same Gospell was preached by some lawfull Pastours in some partes of the world or not Yf it were not The Church of Protestants was no where extant the glory of Christs Church in their conceit was wholy extinguished If it were FroÌ„ those Pastours our sectaryes should haue deriued their succession To theÌ„ they ought to haue gone for their holy Orders 29. Or if the shell of ordinution from the Priestes of Tertullian in praes ca. 20. Antichrist was good inough for their Antichristian synagogue at least from them they ought to haue taken rraducem fidei semina doctrinae their letters patents and commission to preach From them they should haue gleaned the kernell of doctrine they should haue drawne from those pure Churches the line of fayth and seeds of doctrine as Tertullian anoucheth Aug. l. 5. de baps contra donatist cap. 26. which aduise S. Cyprian also giueth and S. Augustine much commendeth it saying That which he Cyprian admonisheth that we repayre to the conduite head that is to Apostolicall tradition and from thence direct the pipe to our tymes is an excellent The succession propagation of truth which heer we seeke cannot be learned out of Scripture 2. Pet. â— v. 16. thinge and without doubt to be obserued especially seeing in this mark of succession it is not the bare truth for which we inquire but the propagation traditioÌ„ reception coÌ„tinuance lineall descent of the truth how it hath been coÌ„ueyed by Pastour to Pastour in al succeeding ages how taught how belieued from the Apostles dayes euen vnto ours This cannot be learned out of Scripture because it followeth after the Scripture The succession of doctrine came after the Scriptures were written how shall it then be proued by the precedeÌ„t Scriptures which were in the Apostles time who endited them depraued and Athanasius ora 2. contra Arian peruerted by some to their owne perdition as S. Peter witnesseth and why may not such deprauatours much more be now How can the Scriptures beare witnes of the publication progresse true perseuerance of that Eos qui aliunde quaÌ„ a tota successione Cathedrae ecclesiastica originem fidei suae deducunt haereticos esse which fell out many yeares after their authours compilers were dead So that for the true doctrinal you must needs haue recourse to the true Pastoral succession which are inseparably chayned and linked togeather To leaue this way and endeauour eyther by Scriptures or by any other meanes to vphould the continuall descent propagation of fayth is an euident brand or note of heresy as S. Athanasius anoweth saying They are heretikes who de riue the origen of their fayth any where els then from the whole succession of the Ecclesiasticall chayre which he accounteth Aug tract 37. in Ioan there an excellent and an admirable way to fiâ—d out an hereticall sect And S. Augustine affirmeth That to be the Catholike fayth which comming from the doctrine of the Apostles is planted in vs by the line of succession S. Irenaeus also more auncient Irenaeus l. 4. cap. 45. then he sayth VVith whome the succession of Bishops from the Apostles tyme downeward remayned these are they who conserue our sayth doe expound the Scriptures vnto vs without danger 30. By this tyme thou perceauest courteous Reader the peruerse vnto ward course of Protestants who departed from the Pastours of the Church to the written word wheras they should haue repayred to her Pastours to haue learned without daunger the meaning of that word Thou perceauest the beggary or nullity rather of their prophane secular ministery which vndertaketh the care of sonles without any true election ordination succession or mission Thou perceauest how vainly they confide in their reuelations from Scripture who haue no certayne rule or publike warrant as Catholikes haue to knowe whether their reuelations proceed from God or no. Thou seest how they beare about them the earemarke of heretiks in deriuing their fayth from another Origene then the line of Apostolicall succession Thou seest how dangerously they vsurpe the functioÌ„ of Pastours who are wolfs robbers and soule-killers of the sheep so deadly bought with the bloud of Christ CHAP. XXI In which the Beginning Propagation Continuance of the true Fayth is proued to be a Note of the true Church and only to appertayne to the Roman Church which neuer altered the Faith it first receaued from the Apostles I SAY prophecying of the true Church and of the very place from whence Isay 2. v. 3. the preaching of the euangelical gospell should begin sayd The law shall come from Sion and the word of our Lord froÌ„ Act. 1. v. 8. IerusaleÌ„ Our Sauiour doth not only assigne the same beginning but foretelleth Luc. 24. v. 46. 47. the growth increase and continuance therof in these wordes You shal be witnesses vnto me in Ierusalem and in all Iury and Samaria and euen to the vtmost of the earth And Matth. 13. v. 37. 39. item 24. v. 14. It behooued pennance to be preached in his name and remission of sinns vnto all nations beginning at Ierusalem Then he auerreth that the seede of his word thus sowed in the field of the world shold increase and grow vntill the haruest That is vntill the last day vntill the consummation of all thinges Hence S Augustine Aug. de vnit Eccl. cap. 10. maketh this illation Let vs therefore holde the Church
designed by the mouth of our Lord from whence it is to beginne and how farre it is to be dilated it is to beginne at Ierusalem and to be dilated into all nations Where he often sayth it shal perseuere Ibidem c. 5. vntill the end of the world This marke is distinct from those which I haue explaned heretofore because I speake not here of the vniuersall being of the Church but of the manner how it came to be in all nations 〈◊〉 of the successiue line of pastorall doctrine but of the order how it also continued for euer 2. After which sort it is to be reduced to the precedent note of Apostolicall succession and such Churches as are thus deriued from those which the Apostles planted Tertull. in praes cont haer may be truly called as Tertullian affirmeth Apostolicall Churches But the Church of Rome only can shew how it beganne at Ierusalem how it grew and spread it selfe into all nations how it still perseuereth whole and entire in all the pointes of fayth she first sucked from the Apostles The Apostolicall fayth is to be knoweÌ„ not by the priuat expositions which now are deuised but by the generall interpretations of Scripture which haue been deliuered froÌ„ tyme to tyme. breastes Therefore she alone is the vndoubted spouse of Iesus Christ For we doe not here intrude our selues to the Apostles tymes and lay clayme as Protestants and other heretikes falsly doe to the Apostolicall faith but to the preaching propagatioÌ„ continuance of that fayth not to the new interpretatioÌ„s which now are made of the written word but to the receaued expositions which from tyme to tyme from country to country from Iury to Rome from Rome to all nations haue beene infallibly gathered and faythfully deliuered out of that sacred word Of this our sectaryes are so destitute as they had not any Priest or Bishop Clark of layman woman or childe in the whole world who preached vnto Luther their first beginner and deliuered vnto him or any other of his consorts their Protestant doctrin Therfore Mayster Mason retire to as you haue heard to the reuelation of Scripture made in England to Cranmer Latimer Ridley and their fellowes others to the like reuelations made to Luther at wittemberge to Caluin at Geneua Mason l. 1. chap. 2. fol. 11. to Oecolampadius at Basil from thence they deriue the propagation or reuiuall of their Gospell which lay dead before for many ages And that which Saint Augustine Aug. l. de vnit Eccl. cap. 17. condemned in the Donatists of no lesse then blasphemy to wit that the good seede of heauenly truth which was sowed by the Apostles and Apostolicall men in all the world and which was there to grow vntill the haruest should haue perished out of those places and be sowed a new out of Africa This I say which he accounted in them a most detestable blasphemy is reuiued again by our late Sectaries who as wretchedly dreame that the same seede was decayed in their dayes or couered at least froÌ„ the view of the world that it had not any publike Pastours to preserue it Doctours to water it preachers to sow it but it must be sowed a new by Cranmer out of England by Luther out of Wittemberge out of Geneua by Caluin whose folly I impugne with Saint Augustines wordes For as his enemyes furnish our Sectaryes with obiections so he armeth vs with irresistable answeres Let them sayth he search the Scriptures and agaynst so many testimonyes which proclayme the Church of Christ to be spread ouer all the world let them Aug. de vnit eccl c. 4. bring but one as certayne and manifest as those by which they demonstrate the Church of Christ to haue perished out of other nations and only to haue remayned in Africa as though it should haue another beginning not from Ierusaelem but from Carthage where first they set vp a Bishop agaynst a Bishop Or as we may apply it to our purpose VVhitak cont 2. q. 5. cap. 1. The Apology of the English Church pa. 4. chap. 4. Caluin libro 4. instit 1. c. 7. §. 24. Fox acts and mon. pag. 400. and pag. 402. Oecolampadius vpon his tomb at Basill is called Euangelicae doctrinae Author primus Buâ—er â—â— An. 36. ad Episco Hereford calleth Luther primum Apostolum purioris â—uangelij Ioachim Camera fratrum orthodoxae Eccles pag. 161. calleth â—uther 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 from England from Wittemberge from Geneua where by Bishops of Priestes lately sprunge vp are scattered abroad new seedes of beliefe contrary to the sowinges of all other Bishops and Priestes In so much as their owne followers attribute vnto them The Restauration The Bringing to light The first Beginning or Rebudding of the Gospell The Reedification of the desolate ruines of Religion The Opening of a veyne longe hid before The Rising of aebeame of truth then vnknowne and vnheard They call them the first Authours first Maysters first restorers first Apostles of their euangelicall strange â—â—d new reformed doctrine For themselues also entitle it new â—â—d strange And another of their fauourites auerreth that â—uther receaued not his fayth eyther froÌ„ Husse or Wickâ—iffe but was 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 instructed of himselfe by the help no doubt aâ— he imâ—gâ—â—ed of holy Scripture A playne demonstration that the Protestant fayth is not that which beginning first at Ierusalem was diffused ouer the world and from Pastour to Pastour descended by the Apostles prescribed way of preaching vnto them Now let vs see whether this property belonge not to the Roman Church 3. Our aduersaries cannot deny but that the ChristiaÌ„ faith first preached at Rome came from Ierusalem eyther by Saint Peter as the whole clowd of Fathers and greatest torrent of Protestants beare witnes or at least by S. Paul who continued the same preaching and was there vnder Nero crowned with martyrdome Likewise that the same fayth was propagated into all Nations the Apostle also testifieth saying to the Romans Your fayth is renowned Rom. 1. v. 8. in the whole world and Saint Irenaeus calling it the greatest and most auncient Church of Rome knowne to all the world as founded by the two most glorious Apostles Peter and Paul addeth Irenaeus l. 3. c. 3. adu haeres immediatly after that vnto this Church in respect of her more mighty principality it is necessary that all Churches agree and haue accesse that is to say all faythfull people wheresoeuer they liue In which Church the tradition that hath descended from the Apostles VVhitak in his ans to Doctor Sanders 2. demonst Fulke in c. 22. Thessa sect 7. Reynolds in his 5. conclus hath euer beene kept by those that liue in any place of the world Fot this cause our aduersaryes confesse that it was our mother Church a most pure excellent and flourishing Church And so continued for some few ages But since say they it is degenerated into a