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A91654 A reply of two of the brethren to A.S. wherein you have observations on his considerations, annotations, &c. Upon the apologeticall narration. With a plea for libertie of conscience for the apologists church way; against the cavils of the said A. S. formerly called M. S. to A. S. Humbly submitted to the judgements of all rationall, and moderate men in the world. With a short survey of W. R. his Grave confutation of the separation, and some modest, and innocent touches on the letter from Zeland, and Mr. Parker's from New-England. Parker, Thomas, 1595-1677.; Steuart, Adam. 1644 (1644) Wing R1048B; Thomason E54_18; ESTC R2612 108,370 124

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but_o cure_v or_o purge_v out_o heresy_n schism_n formality_n profaneness_n more_o than_o some_o other_o kingdom_n that_o so_o hate_v and_o hit_v at_o miscalled_n independeney_n a._n s._n you_o sue_v for_o a_o toleration_n and_o consequent_o for_o a_o separation_n m._n s._n so_o then_o where_o papist_n be_v tolerate_v there_o they_o be_v separatist_n too_o it_o be_v but_o the_o noun_n of_o multitude_n between_o but_o that_o the_o independent_o in_o england_n may_v tolerate_v and_o the_o presbyterian_o may_v be_v tolerate_v will_v they_o then_o be_v separatist_n who_o desire_v separation_n but_o rather_o union_n in_o the_o truth_n if_o any_o hold_v the_o truth_n and_o stumble_v though_o of_o weakness_n at_o some_o small_a matter_n as_o you_o count_v they_o it_o be_v your_o duty_n to_o suffer_v they_o and_o to_o bear_v with_o the_o weak_a
sect._n 24._o concern_v that_o coercive_a power_n we_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n he_o must_v first_o prove_v that_o these_o king_n be_v invest_v with_o that_o power_n which_o they_o exercise_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n by_o a_o moral_a law_n and_o which_o be_v of_o perpetual_a obligation_n and_o engagement_n upon_o other_o nation_n for_o such_o a_o weak_a man_n as_o i_o will_v rather_o incline_v to_o think_v that_o it_o be_v confer_v upon_o they_o by_o a_o law_n politic_n and_o judicial_a and_o which_o no_o more_o concern_v or_o oblige_v king_n and_o magistrate_n of_o other_o nation_n than_o that_o law_n mention_v in_o the_o same_o place_n with_o it_o and_o which_o indeed_o be_v part_n of_o it_o deut._n 13._o which_o injoyn_v the_o slay_v of_o the_o inhabitant_n of_o the_o idolatrous_a city_n with_o the_o edge_n of_o the_o sword_n and_o the_o destroy_n of_o it_o utter_o with_o all_o that_o be_v therein_o and_o the_o cattle_n thereof_o with_o the_o edge_n of_o the_o sword_n and_o the_o gather_n of_o all_o the_o spoil_n thereof_o into_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o street_n thereof_o and_o the_o burn_a of_o the_o city_n with_o fire_n and_o all_o the_o spoil_n thereof_o every_o whit_n and_o the_o make_v it_o a_o heap_n for_o ever_o and_o the_o not_o build_v it_o again_o i_o think_v a._n s._n himself_o do_v not_o conceive_v christian_a king_n or_o magistrate_n engage_v in_o conscience_n to_o observe_v all_o the_o particular_n in_o this_o law_n 8._o and_o last_o if_o you_o consult_v with_o those_o passage_n in_o the_o law_n where_o that_o power_n which_o the_o king_n of_o judah_n exercise_v about_o idolatry_n and_o idolater_n 25._o sect._n 25._o for_o they_o go_v no_o further_o they_o meddle_v not_o with_o the_o crush_a of_o sect_n or_o schism_n as_o we_o hear_v you_o will_v find_v that_o it_o be_v the_o generality_n or_o entire_a body_n of_o the_o church_n or_o nation_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o not_o their_o king_n that_o be_v invest_v with_o it_o by_o god_n see_v deut._n 13._o from_o the_o begin_n to_o the_o end_n and_o again_o deut._n 7.5_o and_o chap._n 12.2_o 3._o with_o many_o of_o like_a consideration_n so_o that_o what_o they_o do_v in_o this_o kind_n they_o do_v it_o or_o be_v to_o have_v do_v it_o in_o the_o name_n and_o with_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o body_n of_o their_o people_n but_o the_o grand_a pillar_n and_o supporter_n of_o this_o coercive_a power_n in_o magistrate_n be_v this_o angry_a and_o discontent_a argument_n what_o will_v you_o have_v all_o religion_n sect_n and_o schism_n tolerate_v in_o christian_a church_n shall_v jew_n turk_n and_o papist_n especial_o be_v suffer_v in_o their_o religion_n what_o a_o confusion_n must_v this_o need_v breed_v both_o in_o church_n and_o state_n give_v i_o leave_v to_o demulce_n and_o pacify_v this_o argument_n and_o then_o we_o advance_v to_o a_o new_a subject_n i_o answer_v by_o distinguish_v 1._o if_o by_o a_o toleration_n 26._o sect._n 26._o the_o argument_n mean_v either_o a_o approbation_n or_o such_o a_o connivance_n which_o either_o take_v no_o knowledge_n of_o or_o however_o no_o way_n oppose_v such_o religion_n sect_n or_o schism_n as_o be_v unwarrantable_a they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v tolerate_v but_o first_o orthodox_n and_o able_a minister_n ought_v in_o the_o course_n of_o their_o public_a ministry_n and_o otherwise_o upon_o occasion_n in_o a_o grave_n sober_a and_o inoffensive_a manner_n sound_o from_o the_o scripture_n to_o evince_v the_o folly_n vanity_n and_o falsehood_n of_o all_o such_o way_n second_o other_o also_o that_o have_v a_o anoint_v of_o light_n and_o knowledge_n from_o god_n be_v bind_v to_o contribute_v occasional_o the_o best_a of_o their_o endeavour_n towards_o the_o same_o end_n three_o in_o case_n the_o minister_n shall_v be_v negligent_a or_o forgetful_a of_o his_o duty_n in_o this_o kind_n the_o magistrate_n may_v and_o aught_o from_o time_n to_o time_n to_o admonish_v he_o that_o he_o fulfil_v his_o ministry_n in_o that_o point_n also_o four_o if_o a_o person_n one_o two_o or_o more_o be_v member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v infect_v with_o any_o heretical_a or_o dangerous_a opinion_n and_o after_o two_o or_o three_o admonition_n with_o mean_n of_o conviction_n use_v to_o regain_v he_o shall_v continue_v obstinate_a he_o ought_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o from_o among_o they_o by_o that_o church_n five_o and_o last_o if_o it_o be_v a_o whole_a church_n that_o be_v so_o corrupt_a and_o infect_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o neighbour_n church_n in_o case_n it_o have_v any_o aught_o to_o admonish_v it_o and_o to_o endeavour_v the_o reclaim_n of_o it_o if_o it_o be_v refractory_a after_o competent_a admonition_n and_o mean_v use_v for_o the_o reduce_n of_o it_o they_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o renounce_v communion_n with_o it_o and_o so_o set_v a_o mark_n or_o brand_n of_o heresy_n and_o obstinacy_n in_o the_o forehead_n of_o it_o but_o second_o 27._o sect._n 27._o if_o by_o a_o 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