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A67420	More news from Rome, or, Magna Charta discoursed of between a poor man & his wife as also a new font erected in the cathedral-church at Gloucester in October 1663, and consecrated by the reverend moderate bishop, Dr. William Nicolson ... : as also an assertion of Dr. William Warmstrey ... wherein he affirmeth that it is a lesser sin for a man to kill his father than to refrain coming to the divine service established in the Church of England ...	Wallis, Ralph, d. 1669.	1666 (1666)	Wing W616; ESTC R15738	46,742	50

Abraham the Church under the Gospel is the Seed of Abraham by Faith such as repent and believe the Gospel such as heard the VVord gladly were added unto the Church which are under the second Covenant W. Husband How do you define a Church I have heard it thus Where the Word of God is truly Preached and the Sacraments duly Administred that is a true Church H. VVife the VVord of God may be truly preached and the Sacraments duly administred and yet no true Church for first the Administrator may have no right unto the work Secondly The Persons wanting Faith have no right to the Administration But it 's Faith and Order which make a true Church according to Christ's Institution But a true Church according to that Godly Learned man Mr. Hen. Aynsworth who was never controverted by any and whose Exposition on the five Books of Moses carry esteem with men of several Judgments Prelatical aswel as others That a true Church is a People called of God by the Gospel from the world unto the Communion and Fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ in whom they are coupled and built together to be an habitation of God by his Spirit The parts of it may be easily proved being known Texts of Scripture which you are acquainted with I shall not stand upon W. Husband I have heard that the Church of England is a true Church and many Preachers have insisted on it very much to prove it to be so because of the truth of the Doctrine taught in it and the conversion of Souls by the Doctrine preached therein H. Wife and so it may be said that Rome is a true Church because there is some true Doctrine preached there and in the judgment of Charity some convereted there it followeth not that therefore Rome is a true Church And it cannot be denied but that many honest Godly men and women and good Preachers have been born and lived in the Church of England thousands of them First many that never saw the Corruptions in it Secondly some that saw them and did complain and did bear them as burdens as many may be instanced which are no warrantable Presidents for men in these times wherein the Lord doth manifest more Light for I can remember when Gospel-Institutions were not spoken of in the Country no not among old Nonconformists A third sort who saw the Corruptions in it and justly separated from it And of each sort a charitable construction is to be had Yet the Church of England as a National Church was never founded upon a right Basis or Foundation for the Constitution of it unto this day and from the first Reformation of it there hath been alwayes much dissention and when it was all of one colour in darkest times it was accounted a true Church and since it became medly it retains the name VV. Husband when did the Reformation begin first H. VVife in King Edward the sixths dayes before which there was a general inundation of Popery over the face of the Land which continued until the Reign of the said King and according to the Light which they then received they endeavoured a Reformation and compelled men to come to the Worship established by King and Parliament which is that we call Divine-Service or Common-Prayer which when the Papists in Devonshire and parts adjacent heard of they began to make some Insurrection but when they were informed that it was taken out of the Old-Church-Rubrick only translated into English they were prety well pacified The course which the King and his Councel took at that time was such as seemed best although according to the Rule of the Gospel neither could that good be done as many of them desired there being many Great Persons that did obstruct and hinder what others would have done especially of the Clergy Contrary to this King and his Council was the practice of Ethelbert King of the East Angles who when he was converted to the Faith never compelled any as Mr. Fox reports VV. Husband do you think it fit for men to be compelled to come to the Worship of God our Bishop as I heard you say in his Sermon he preached before the Judges at the Assizes urged them to put the Laws in execution that where their hand was too short he craved the assistance of the Judges he preached out of Canticles Take us the little Foxes he said he would unkennel them as fast as he could and quotes Tertullian for his Another that the Christians did compel the Heathen to their worship and further said that it was the Opinion of most of the Ancient Fathers that those which our Saviour sent forth his Disciples to call to the Supper which sate under the Hedges and High-wayes were Schismaticks and Hereticks and approved of the course that Mecoenas Alexanders Schoolmaster prescribed him which was to worship his God after a uniform way and command all others to follow his example H. Wife I could tell his Lordship when he quoted Tertullian for his Author he might have wip'd his mouth on his Lawn Sleeves for Tertullian saith no such thing and if Grotius may be credited which I read and this extracted where speaking out of the 14th of Luke from the Greek word which is rendered Coge Compel he thus saith This place doth put me in mind of an Facit hic locus me memorem eximii inter veteres Doctoris quicum antea mult is in Libris asseverasset Neminem'ad professionem Fidei cogendum qua in renihil dixerat quod ante se dixerunt Athenagorus Arnobius Minutius Tertullianus Lactantius quotquot alicujus nominis ante se vixerunt c. excellent Doctor among the Ancients who had affirmed in many Books that no man was to be compelled to the profession of the Faith in which thing he had said nothing but what Athenagorus Arnobius Minutius Tertullian Lactantius and as many as were of any Fame who had lived before them c. This place doth manifestly belong to Cum hic locus manifesto pertineat ad Gentes adhuc Fidem non professus c. the Gentiles as yet not professing the Faith And after saith that this compulsion was no other than that of our Saviours where he compelled his Disciples to enter into Ship it was Nec trahendo nec trudendo neither by drawing driving nor thursting them And whereas he saith That most of the Fathers were of that opinion that will be too hard for his Lordship to prove and to bring the wisdom of a Heathen for a Christians practice sheweth no admired wisdom And whereas he said He would unkennel the Foxes as fast as he could if all the Wolves should be unkennl'd himself with the rest of his Tribe must lie without doors But for the Modern Writers as Melancton Luther and the rest are against compulsion Luther saith Predicare anuntiare scribere volo neminem antem adigam I will preach and teach and write but I will compel no man

the one a Doctor of Dulvinity the other a Doctor of the Civil Law lately at a Sack-shop fit for the Crime could not easily be determined Excommunication could not he was no Member of the Church if a Member little would it advantage the Bishops Court wanting money to pay for his Absolution If the Cat should eat him then the Bread had been twice prophaned kill him they could not before they caught him and it 's questionable whether it were not before the invention of Mouse-traps no doubt but it put the Synod to a great deal of trouble In things of like imoortance our Convocation is as able to manage as that Synod and that Synod able to do as much good as ours have done or would do were they to sit seven years longer VV. Husband what is this Convocation is it constituted according to Magna Charta the Rule of the Gospel H. Wife for your satisfaction I 'le tell you it is not according to the Rule of Gospel for the constitution of it for in the Churches of Christ in the primitive times the Power lay not in any single person but in the Members of the Churches aswel as in the principal Officers This Convocation is of Romes Constitution and left unto us by succession as it was in the darkest times of Popery and as it is at this day under the Romane Empire in which the Laity as they call the common People have no voice in the election of the Clerks according to the Government of the Mystical Body as the Doctor calls it the Church of England the People being denied that priviledge for their precious Souls which they have in some cases in temporal things for their perishing bodies Bear with me for some homely comparisons and some circumstances and I will tell you the manner of this Convocation and constitution of it by and by W. Husband I hope there is no need of such Complements between you and me Pray tell me H. Wife not long since I was standing in Newgate-Market in London where I saw at a distance a strange Creature mounted on the back of a beast but approaching near me I perceived it to be a Gentleman-Fackanapes on Horse-back and the Bears led by the nose following him to the misery of the stake there to baited with Dogs This Gentleman is no English Native but a Foreigner whether of some parts of Italy or America I know not his habit is an hairy rough garment yet nothing but what Nature did afford him and with the bridle on his arm for so I 'le call it for imitation like himself very Ape as we say There is a Gentleman John Priest with whom you may parallel this Gentleman Jackanape's in some passages who is mounted upon the Magisterial power of the Beast and with Institution and Induction which is as pretty a Popish knack as any is in all the Pack comes to the Parish and they must take him for better or worse for their Pastor although he never tasted of one bit of Bread which came down from Heaven nor drop of living Water to which he is a stranger Watchman or Overseer although the Scales never fell from his eyes nor ever opened by that great Occulist who only is in Commission for that purpose and follow him they must although quite blind they must see with his eyes and be led by him into the misery of the Ditch This Gentleman John Priest is no true Native qua Saeerdos as a Priest but as a Romane and his habit a Rough Garment to deceive the People according to the nature of the Beast but not any garment no nor a rag of any thing but what Nature doth afford him For imitation apish and wanton with a strange woman and nothing fits his fancy better than the Fashions of the old Whore Well a Convocation must be called by whom this Gentleman John Priest with the rest of the Gentlemen John Priests of the several Diocesses and Parishes must make choice of the Clerks who are men called to the work of Priesthood as himself and although the Bishops sit in Parliament by vertue of the King 's Writ yet they are of the Corporation and must have not a finger only but a foot in it and then as we say in a Country Proverb The Pottage is never the better what they are we talked on before And whatsoever is brewed in the Convocation I may not say who grinds the Malt being tund up into the House and there a cork put in the Bunn-hole I mean confirmed by Act is Jus Divinum And the People must be led by the nose of an Implicit Faith to believe that it is their duty to observe and practise which Implicit Faith brings more misery than the Bears are brought unto at the Stake the misery of the one is Finite the other Infinite If they observe not the Dictates and Commands of the same they are Fin'd Imprison'd Transportation threatned c. W. Husband what 's become of Sions King all this while one JESUS H. Wife well remembred shall I tell you they have served him as Herod Pontius Pilate and the High Priests sent him into another world or else transported him to Tangier or else where for Deus hic nihil fecet he hath not been seen or heard of here W. Husband that is some comfort to them that shall follow after if their Captain and Head be gone before but what is to be done in this case for remedy H. Wife nothing as I know of but the old Weapons Preces et Lachrime Prayers and Tears wait upon God and then you shall see as Athanasius said in the like case but Nubeculo cito transitura a little Cloud quickly past over But Wife you put me out with your talking what I was going to say concerning John Priest a little more when the House is adjourn'd Acts extant and the Bishop come home Country John Priest in duty gives his Lordship a visit and bids him welcome home thanking him for his pains c. The Bishop gives John some account of their work good thinks John this will help of spin out a little time next Sunday in the Pulpit or Pue and then John addresses his speech unto his Neighbours Neighbours I have been with my Lord Bishop who hath given me a Narrative of the Proceedings of the House for the setling and right regulating thereof The Church of England it 's well known hath been accounted the most Glorious Church and hath had the preheminence of all the Churches in the Christian world however it hath been clouded and eclipsed by some Schismatical and Seditious Spirits in the late unhappy times of Libertinism and still Fanatick Spirits do abound yet such good and wholsome Laws are enacted and made for the suppressing of the same that the Church of England may be restored to its former Beauty and Primitive Purity For never was there a more Learned Pious Wise Grave Juditious Assembly of Divines of Bishops Doctors