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A20303 A sparing restraint, of many lauishe vntruthes, which M. Doctor Harding do the chalenge, in the first article of my Lorde of Sarisburies replie. By Edward Dering student in Diuinitie. With an answere vnto that long, and vncourteous epistle, entituled to M. Juel, and set before M. Hardings Reioinder Dering, Edward, 1540?-1576. 1568 (1568) STC 6725; ESTC S108150 240,683 364

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bishop_n or_o priest_n say_v the_o council_n minister_v the_o communion_n in_o their_o house_n yet_o say_v master_n harding_n they_o may_v minister_v it_o at_o home_n so_o this_o decree_n stand_v thus_o let_v no_o bishop_n or_o priest_n minister_v the_o communion_n to_o any_o man_n in_o his_o house_n except_o he_o be_v at_o home_o if_o so_o many_o bishop_n make_v so_o senseless_a a_o decree_n they_o have_v small_a matter_n to_o think_v on_o the_o b._n of_o saris._n the_o same_o order_n be_v take_v at_o the_o council_n of_o acon_n harding_n the_o .176_o untruth_n it_o be_v not_o take_v dering_n the_o same_o order_n say_v master_n harding_n be_v not_o take_v by_o they_o yet_o the_o .58_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n and_o 80._o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o acon_n be_v the_o same_o word_n and_o how_o shall_v the_o same_o word_n not_o have_v the_o same_o meaning_n no_o distinction_n can_v make_v this_o matter_n whole_a but_o m._n harding_n must_v needs_o here_o say_v he_o can_v not_o tell_v what_o he_o say_v the_o b._n of_o saris._n likewise_o pope_n foelix_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o minister_v the_o communion_n at_o home_n but_o upon_o exceed_v great_a necessity_n harding_n the_o .175_o untruth_n foelix_fw-la speak_v neither_o of_o the_o communion_n nor_o of_o home_o dering_n if_o m._n harding_n do_v either_o fear_n god_n or_o reverence_v the_o truth_n he_o will_v not_o deal_v thus_o unfaithful_o thou_o see_v good_a reader_n how_o bold_o he_o say_v foelix_n name_v neither_o y_o e_o communion_n nor_o home_n and_o who_o will_v not_o think_v that_o such_o assertion_n shall_v have_v some_o colour_n or_o show_v of_o truth_n yet_o sure_o in_o this_o there_o be_v none_o but_o mark_v his_o untrue_a behaviour_n he_o allege_v for_o his_o proof_n certain_a word_n of_o foelix_n in_o which_o in_o deed_n these_o term_n be_v not_o express_v but_o how_o wicked_o he_o do_v it_o let_v the_o book_n be_v judge_v it_o follow_v in_o the_o same_o decree_n within_o less_o than_o five_o line_n alij_fw-la in_o domibus_fw-la ab_fw-la episcopis_fw-la sive_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la oblationes_fw-la celebrari_fw-la nullatenus_fw-la licet_fw-la yet_o in_o house_n either_o by_o bishop_n or_o priest_n it_o be_v by_o no_o mean_n lawful_a that_o the_o communion_n be_v celebrate_v lo_o here_o be_v mention_n both_o of_o house_n and_o communion_n yet_o say_v master_n harding_n there_o be_v mention_n of_o neither_o the_o best_a excuse_n that_o in_o this_o place_n may_v be_v have_v be_v to_o say_v he_o be_v deceive_v there_o be_v no_o exception_n against_o the_o word_n for_o they_o be_v plain_a no_o distinction_n of_o oblation_n for_o the_o gloze_n have_v interpret_v it_o oblationes_fw-la s._n eucharistiae_fw-la the_o sacrifice_n glosa_fw-la to_o wit_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n now_o asleep_o little_o further_a to_o view_v these_o untruth_n m._n harding_n to_o prove_v
his_o private_a mass_n have_v seek_v for_o john_n almonar_n in_o a_o private_a chapple_n but_o the_o question_n be_v move_v of_o the_o open_a church_n this_o john_n almonar_n live_v at_o the_o least_o .610_o year_n after_o christ._n the_o question_n be_v of_o .600_o year_n only_o so_o this_o fable_n may_v be_v well_o reject_v both_o for_o that_o it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n and_o if_o it_o be_v yet_o it_o be_v without_o the_o compass_n of_o .600_o year_n yet_o master_n jewel_n admit_v the_o proof_n do_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v a_o very_a fable_n his_o reason_n be_v because_o no_o man_n may_v say_v mass_n at_o home_n here_o let_v we_o make_v the_o best_a of_o master_n harding_n answer_v and_o it_o be_v thus_o they_o may_v not_o say_v mass_n in_o their_o house_n but_o they_o may_v say_v they_o in_o their_o chapel_n this_o answer_n be_v very_o absurd_a for_o who_o will_v say_v mass_n in_o his_o parlour_n or_o hall_n or_o kitchen_n have_v a_o chapel_n and_o it_o be_v know_v to_o be_v false_a and_o take_v away_o by_o gracian_a say_v vnicuique_fw-la fidelium_fw-la in_o domo_fw-la sva_fw-la oratorium_fw-la habere_fw-la licet_fw-la et_fw-la ibi_fw-la orare_fw-la missas_fw-la autem_fw-la ibi_fw-la concelebrare_fw-la non_fw-la licet_fw-la unicuique_fw-la every_o man_n may_v have_v a_o chapel_n in_o his_o house_n &_o pray_v there_o but_o he_o may_v not_o have_v mass_n in_o it_o thus_o appear_v how_o vain_a master_n harding_n exception_n be_v against_o these_o former_a authority_n for_o that_o they_o have_v in_o domibus_fw-la in_o their_o house_n when_o gracian_n allege_v the_o council_n of_o auleria_n use_v this_o word_n oratorium_fw-la a_o chaple_n notwithstanding_o master_n harding_n conclude_v thus_o we_o must_v seek_v for_o better_a stuff_n this_o be_v nothing_o worth_a so_o much_o security_n have_v these_o man_n promise_v themselves_o that_o whatsoever_o they_o speak_v they_o think_v it_o be_v beleve_v the_o b._n of_z ▪_o saris._n master_n harding_n translate_v false_o cum_fw-la benedixisset_fw-la sancta_fw-la ▪_o when_o he_o have_v consecrate_v the_o sacrament_n likewise_o post_fw-la finem_fw-la orationum_fw-la after_o the_o prayer_n of_o consecration_n harding_n the_o .177_o untruthe_n that_o translation_n be_v true_a the_o .178_o untruthe_n that_o translation_n be_v true_a dering_n now_o that_o this_o apostata_fw-la have_v vomit_v up_o a_o little_a poison_a affection_n against_o the_o bless_a bishop_n of_o sarisburie_n he_o be_v lay_v down_o again_o like_o a_o swine_n to_o wallow_v in_o his_o former_a mire_n and_o as_o blind_a bayard_n run_v forth_o he_o know_v not_o whither_o quote_v mo_z untruth_n of_o his_o own_o make_n my_o translation_n 4._o say_v he_o be_v true_a his_o reason_n be_v this_o some_o doctor_n do_v expound_v benedicere_fw-la for_o consecrare_fw-la therefore_o that_o be_v so_o and_o the_o grecian_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sancta_fw-la sanctis_fw-la therefore_o sancta_fw-la be_v the_o sacrament_n if_o master_n harding_n that_o in_o his_o long_a epistle_n will_v so_o fain_o have_v be_v appelles_n can_v with_o all_o his_o cunning_a picture_n out_o these_o argument_n we_o shall_v have_v the_o right_a shape_n of_o a_o fool_n babble_n benedicere_fw-la say_v he_o be_v construe_v of_o s._n ambrose_n by_o consecrare_fw-la ergo_fw-la it_o be_v so_o but_o it_o be_v construe_v otherwise_o by_o the_o evangelist_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o so_o where_o s._n matthew_n and_o s._n mark_v say_v 11._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o he_o have_v bless_v he_o break_v s._n luke_n and_o s._n paul_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o he_o have_v give_v thanks_n he_o break_v yea_o both_o mathewe_n and_o mark_v themselves_o say_v of_o the_o cup_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d when_o he_o have_v give_v thanks_n he_o give_v it_o then_o if_o benedixit_fw-la be_v he_o do_v consecrate_v then_o gratias_fw-la egit_fw-la be_v also_o he_o do_v consecrate_v and_o so_o the_o .180_o untruthe_n be_v verify_v that_o master_n harding_n call_v some_o thing_n that_o be_v not_o as_o if_o they_o be_v and_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v why_o master_n harding_n cleave_v so_o to_o this_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o make_v nothing_o for_o his_o transubstantiation_n it_o be_v write_v in_o the_o scripture_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d god_n bless_v the_o seven_o day_n yet_o he_o turn_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o it_o so_o god_n speak_v unto_o abraham_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sure_o in_o blessing_n i_o will_v bless_v thou_o yet_o god_n use_v no_o manner_n of_o consecration_n so_o say_v s._n paul_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o who_o have_v bless_v we_o in_o all_o manner_n of_o spiritual_a blessing_n in_o diverse_a other_o place_n of_o holy_a scripture_n thisword_n be_v use_v yet_o no_o where_n for_o this_o strange_a manner_n of_o transubstantiation_n or_o other_o consecration_n than_o which_o we_o say_v in_o latin_a consecrare_fw-la which_o be_v to_o give_v up_o to_o ordain_v to_o appoint_v to_o a_o holy_a use_n though_o it_o may_v be_v well_o say_v of_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o in_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o rather_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o that_o why_o he_o shall_v translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o consecrate_v there_o be_v no_o cause_n except_o such_o cause_n as_o will_v have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v nothing_o but_o saithe_v master_n harding_n some_o doctor_n have_v translate_v benedicere_fw-la by_o consecrare_fw-la let_v we_o grant_v it_o such_o be_v the_o liberty_n of_o speech_n that_o some_o word_n be_v use_v in_o a_o impropre_a signification_n do_v it_o follow_v because_o benedicere_fw-la may_v be_v to_o consecrate_v therefore_o benedicere_fw-la sancta_fw-la be_v to_o consecrate_v the_o sacrament_n this_o gather_v be_v very_o childish_a extruo_fw-la be_v to_o build_v up_o therefore_o be_v extruere_fw-la mensam_fw-la to_o build_v or_o make_v a_o table_n interpello_fw-la be_v to_o disturb_v or_o interrupt_v therefore_o be_v interpellare_fw-la debitorem_fw-la to_o interrupt_v or_o disturb_v your_o debtor_n expendere_fw-la be_v to_o consider_v therefore_o be_v expendere_fw-la poenas_fw-la to_o consider_v punishment_n sure_o this_o be_v a_o very_a idle_a proof_n though_o benedicere_fw-la be_v to_o consecrate_v and_o sancta_fw-la be_v the_o sacrament_n but_o now_o it_o be_v show_v that_o benedicere_fw-la be_v not_o to_o consecrate_v and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o the_o sacrament_n as_o master_n jewel_n show_v out_o of_o chrysostome_n and_o in_o da_fw-mi de_fw-mi what_o reason_n be_v it_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sancta_fw-la sanctis_fw-la shall_v be_v the_o sacrament_n &_o not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sancta_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la shall_v be_v likewise_o the_o sacrament_n now_o for_o as_o much_o as_o master_n harding_n cleave_v so_o unto_o the_o doctor_n that_o what_o so_o ever_o they_o say_v he_o straight_o take_v it_o for_o a_o oracle_n we_o may_v say_v unto_o he_o as_o our_o saviour_n say_v unto_o the_o jew_n even_o moses_n in_o who_o you_o trust_v shall_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o you_o so_o the_o doctor_n shall_v be_v witness_n against_o master_n harding_n and_o his_o fellow_n that_o when_o the_o doctor_n do_v require_v to_o be_v judge_v by_o the_o scripture_n yet_o they_o without_o scripture_n will_v ground_v their_o faith_n upon_o they_o curse_a be_v he_o say_v the_o prophet_n that_o trust_v in_o man_n and_o make_v flesh_n to_o be_v his_o arm_n for_o my_o part_n i_o reverence_v the_o doctor_n and_o praise_n god_n for_o they_o they_o be_v good_a steward_n and_o dispense_v faithful_o the_o good_n that_o be_v commit_v unto_o they_o they_o be_v man_n of_o excellent_a learning_n great_a diligence_n and_o godly_a life_n and_o have_v sufficient_o confute_v master_n harding_n religion_n 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