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A20733 A defence of the sermon preached at the consecration of the L. Bishop of Bath and VVelles against a confutation thereof by a namelesse author. Diuided into 4. bookes: the first, prouing chiefly that the lay or onely-gouerning elders haue no warrant either in the Scriptures or other monuments of antiquity. The second, shewing that the primitiue churches indued with power of ecclesiasticall gouernment, were not parishes properly but dioceses, and consequently that the angels of the churches or ancient bishops were not parishionall but diocesan bishops. The third, defending the superioritie of bishops aboue other ministers, and prouing that bishops alwayes had a prioritie not onely in order, but also in degree, and a maioritie of power both for ordination and iurisdiction. The fourth, maintayning that the episcopall function is of apostolicall and diuine institution. Downame, George, d. 1634. 1611 (1611) STC 7115; ESTC S110129 556,406 714

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the_o primitive_a church_n allow_v as_o patriarch_n or_o archbb._n bb._n minister_n and_o deacon_n for_o of_o these_o four_o we_o especial_o read_v as_o chief_a in_o which_o four_o degree_n as_o we_o grant_v diversity_n of_o office_n so_o we_o admit_v in_o the_o same_o also_o diversity_n of_o dignity_n neither_o deny_v that_o which_o be_v due_a to_o each_o degree_n neither_o yet_o maintain_v the_o ambition_n of_o any_o singular_a person_n for_o as_o we_o give_v to_o the_o minister_n place_n above_o the_o deacon_n to_o the_o b_o above_o the_o minister_n to_o the_o archbishop_n above_o the_o b._n so_o we_o see_v no_o cause_n of_o inequality_n why_o one_o minister_n shall_v be_v above_o another_o minister_n one_o bishop_n in_o his_o degree_n above_o another_o b._n to_o deal_v in_o his_o diocese_n or_o one_o archbb._n above_o another_o archbishop_n and_o this_o be_v to_o keep_v a_o order_n due_o and_o true_o in_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n here_o then_o be_v the_o question_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n whether_o the_o metropolitan_a church_n of_o rome_n with_o the_o archbb._n of_o the_o same_o aught_o to_o be_v prefer_v before_o other_o metropolitan_a church_n and_o archbb_n through_o universal_a christendom_n or_o not_o 11._o and_o thus_o i_o have_v examine_v his_o testimony_n which_o if_o you_o shall_v compare_v with_o those_o whereunto_o in_o the_o sermon_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n you_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o he_o have_v little_a cause_n either_o to_o accuse_v my_o speech_n of_o untruth_n or_o to_o justle_v out_o the_o surveyor_n testimony_n with_o his_o own_o as_o though_o they_o have_v not_o be_v worthy_a to_o have_v be_v hear_v in_o comparison_n of_o he_o whereas_o indeed_o if_o there_o have_v be_v no_o more_o testimony_n allege_v then_o of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o augustane_n con●ession_n and_o the_o subscriber_n thereunto_o who_o i_o especial_o mean_v be_v the_o man_n
&_o 16._o c._n antioch_n c._n 9_o &_o ex_fw-la ep_n const._n const._n conc._n ephes._n post_v advent_a episcoporum_fw-la cypr._n ad_fw-la page_n 79._o §._o 12._o calvin_n testimony_n consent_v with_o we_o in_o the_o three_o first_o point_n handle_v in_o the_o sermon_n ad_fw-la pag._n 80._o §._o 13._o calu._n in_o tit_n l._n 4._o c._n 4._o sect_n 1._o let_v these_o word_n before_o the_o papacy_n be_v observe_v of_o they_o who_o say_v we_o have_v receive_v our_o government_n from_o the_o papist_n §_o 14._o calvin_n testimony_n that_o the_o church_n be_v diocese_n §_o 15._o calum_n testimony_n that_o the_o bishop_n be_v diocesan_n bb._n bez._n de_fw-fr grad_v min._n c._n 24._o ad_fw-la pag_n 81._o see_v calu._n in_o act._n 20.17.28_o &_o in_o act._n 14.23_o §_o 2._o whether_o the_o government_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o of_o the_o part_n must_v be_v of_o one_o form_n §._o 3._o the_o government_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n aristocratical_a aristocratical_a an._n 1609._o 1609._o cypr._n the_o simplic_a praelatorum_fw-la hoc_fw-la erant_fw-la utique_fw-la caeteri_fw-la apostoli_fw-la quod_fw-la suit_n petrus_n pari_fw-la consorrio_fw-la prae●liti_fw-la &_o honoris_fw-la &_o pot●statis_fw-la pot●statis_fw-la eiusdem_fw-la sacerdotij_fw-la hier._n ad_fw-la euagr._fw-la though_o the_o government_n of_o several_a church_n be_v monarchical_a yet_o it_o follow_v not_o that_o therefore_o the_o government_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n shall_v be_v monarchical_a lib._n 3._o epist._n 13._o ad_fw-la pag._n 82._o wherein_o the_o disciplinarian_o do_v agree_v and_o wherein_o they_o descent_n from_o us._n ad_fw-la pag._n 33._o §._o 6._o they_o hold_v that_o there_o must_v be_v a_o precedent_n of_o the_o presbytery_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 2._o §_o 16._o &_o 17._o 17._o de_fw-fr grad_v minist_n cap._n 23._o 23._o de_fw-fr grad_v minist_n c._n 24._o p._n 177_o 177_o ibid._n c._n 23._o p._n 144._o 156._o 156._o pag._n 139.140_o 139.140_o pag._n 159.160_o 159.160_o vide_fw-la supr_n l._n 1._o c._n 2_o §._o 16._o they_o deny_v to_o the_o precedent_n maiority_n of_o rule_n rule_n calu._n instit._n l._n 4._o c._n 4_o s._n 2._o 2._o beza_n de_fw-fr grad_v p._n 156_o 157._o 157._o t._n c._n l●_n 110._o §._o 7._o beza_n dissent_v from_o we_o in_o this_o four_o point_n but_o with_o more_o moderation_n than_o our_o disciplinarian_n use_v §._o 8._o the_o refuter_fw-la seek_v start_a hole_n ad_fw-la pag._n 84._o he_o will_v restrain_v the_o primitive_a church_n unto_o the_o apostle_n time_n time_n iust._n l._n 4._o c._n 4._o 4._o parag._n 4._o 4._o confess_v c._n 5._o §_o 29._o 29._o de_fw-fr relig_n c._n 25._o §_o 11._o 11._o observ_n in_o cap._n 25._o aphor_n 10.11_o §._o 9_o the_o church_n under_o constantine_n to_o be_v imitate_v of_o us._n the_o same_o form_n of_o government_n and_o the_o like_a authority_n of_o diocesan_n b.b._n throughout_o all_o the_o time_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d euseb._n l._n 2._o c._n 24_o §._o 10._o of_o h.i._n pag._n 7._o his_o distinction_n of_o bb._n into_o 6._o sort_n sort_n lib._n 5._o c._n 9_o 9_o lib._n 2._o cap._n 15_o 15_o anno_fw-la 260._o 260._o ad_fw-la euagrium_n euagrium_n vide_fw-la supr_n l._n 1._o c._n 11._o §._o 4._o 4._o have_v the_o bishop_n priority_n of_o order_n only_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o parishioner_n §_o 11._o t._n c._n his_o collection_n out_o of_o jerom●_n word_n word_n ad_fw-la euagr._fw-la euagr._fw-la conf._n p._n 462._o chron._n ●n_n 251._o &_o hist._n l._n 6.35_o etc._n etc._n athanas._n de_fw-fr sentent_fw-fr dionysij_fw-la episcopi_fw-la alexandrini_n §_o 12._o h._n i._o diocesan_n bb._n when_o they_o begin_v of_o patriarch_n and_o when_o they_o begin_v conc._n nic._n can_v 6._o ignat._n epist._n ad_fw-la rom._n conc._n nic._n c._n 7._o §_o 13._o the_o refuter_fw-la will_v restrain_v the_o question_n to_o the_o seven_o angel_n only_o his_o second_o start_v hole_n ad_fw-la pag._n 85._o §_o 2._o the_o first_o argument_n prove_v that_o bb._n be_v superior_a in_o degree_n because_o aërius_n be_v count_v a_o hertike_a for_o deny_v it_o epiph._n haer_fw-mi 75._o aug._n haer_fw-mi 53._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d epiph._n in_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d haer_fw-mi 75._o aug._n haer_fw-mi 53._o epiph._n epiph._n ad_fw-la euagr._fw-la euagr._fw-la 1._o pet_n 5.1_o 2._o john_n 1._o and_o 3._o john_n 1_o 1_o act._n 1.20_o 1.20_o heres_fw-la 75._o §_o 3._o objection_n for_o aërius_n answer_v answer_v epist._n ad_fw-la ●_o k._n k._n phil._n 1.1_o 1.1_o phil._n 2.25_o vide_fw-la theodor._n 〈◊〉_d phil._n 2.25_o 2.25_o chrysost._n hieronym_n ambros._n theodor._n oecum_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n in_o epist_n ad_fw-la qu●dvul●de_fw-mi un_fw-fr un_fw-fr august_n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la in_o fine_a §_o 4._o other_o objection_n answer_v answer_v in_o 1._o tim_n 3._o hom_n 9_o &_o 10._o 10._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o phil._n 1._o 1._o socrat._n l._n 6._o c._n 22._o 22._o homil._n 20._o add_v pop_n antioch_n in_o initio_fw-la initio_fw-la theod._n l._n 5._o ca._n 28._o 28._o aug._n quast_o novi_fw-la &_o vet_n test_n 101._o t._n 4._o 4._o ambr._n de_fw-fr dignit_fw-la sacerd._n cap._n 3._o 3._o cap._n 5._o 5._o ambr._n in_o 1._o tim._n 3._o 3._o in_o ●●ph_v 4._o 4._o in_o 1._o tim._n 3._o the_o 2._o argument_n antiquity_n acknowledge_v 3._o degree_n of_o minister_n minister_n epist._n 1._o 1._o epist._n 3._o 3._o eccl._n hierarch_n c._n 5._o 5._o de_fw-fr fuge_fw-la in_o persecut_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la baptismo_fw-la homil._n 7._o in_o jerem_n §._o 6._o adpag_v b6_n b7_n b8_n b8_n epist._n 2._o vivisuque_fw-la vivisuque_fw-la ad_fw-la phil._n &_o trall_n trall_n epist._n 3._o sacerdotum_fw-la fratres_fw-la ordo_fw-la bipartitus_fw-la est_fw-la est_fw-la cyprian_a ambrose_n jerome_n augustine_n augustine_n epist._n 4._o 4._o ignat._n ad_fw-la trall_n trall_n ign._n ad_fw-la philipp_n philipp_n ign._n ad_fw-la philadelph_n §._o 7._o the_o three_o order_n of_o minister_n call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d degree_n 1._o tim._n 3.13_o 3.13_o li._n 4._o epist._n 2._o ad_fw-la sacerdotij_fw-la sublime_a fastigium_fw-la cunctis_fw-la religionis_fw-la gradibus_fw-la ascendit_fw-la ascendit_fw-la sard._n c._n 10._o lat_fw-la 13._o 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rhetoricae_n vacans_fw-la balsan_n balsan_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theodor._n l._n 5._o c._n 8._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d conc._n ephes._n c._n 1.2.6_o 1.2.6_o chal●_n c._n 2_o &_o 12._o 12._o con●_n carth._n gra●_n c._n 3._o sive_fw-la carthag_n 2._o c._n 2._o 2._o con●_n carth._n grae._n 〈◊〉_d carth._n 6._o c._n ●_o ●_o in_o encomio_fw-la athanas●●_n athanas●●_n l._n 1._o c._n 26._o 26._o admirable_a admirable_a in_o vita_fw-la basil._n basil._n l._n 7._o c._n 41._o 41._o contr._n parme●_n lib._n 1._o 1._o decret_n l._n ●_o c._n ●5_n ●5_n ad_fw-la e●agr_n in_o fine_a ad_fw-la nepoti_fw-la epist._n 2._o quod_fw-la aaron_n &_o falios_fw-la eius_fw-la hoc_fw-la episcopum_fw-la &_o presbyteros_fw-la esse_fw-la novimus_fw-la §_o 8._o bb._n presbyter_n deacon_n answerable_a to_o the_o high_a priest_n priests_z and_o levite_n levite_n inst._n l._n 4_o c._n 6._o s._n 2._o §_o 9_o the_o testimony_n of_o ignatius_n ignatius_n pag._n 51._o 51._o ad_fw-la smyrn_n that_o deacon_n be_v in_o a_o degree_n of_o the_o ministry_n ministry_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d conc._n const._n in_o trullo_n ca._n 16._o 16._o conc._n neocaes_n cap._n 15._o 15._o act._n 6._o 6._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v s._n 20._o miss_v etiam_fw-la alios_fw-la 72._o ad_fw-la praedicand●m_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d act._n 8.5_o &_o 21.8_o 21.8_o cap._n 15._o §._o 10._o 10._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d themselves_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d their_o duty_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ignat._n ad_fw-la trall_n can._n apost_n 15._o conc._n an●yr_n cap._n 2._o 2._o cap._n 18._o 18._o apol._n 2._o 2._o tertull._n de_fw-fr bapt._n bapt._n cypr._n passim_fw-la passim_fw-la conc._n elib_n ca._n 77._o 77._o carth._n gr●c_n ca._n 25._o sive_fw-la carth_n 5._o ca._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d adverse_a lucifer_n lucifer_n conc._n carth._n 4._o ca._n 36._o 36._o conc._n carth._n 4._o c._n 2.3.4_o 2.3.4_o ca._n 37._o 37._o ca._n 38._o 38._o ca._n 41._o §._o 11._o the_o refuter_fw-la deny_v presbyter_n to_o have_v be_v minister_n of_o the_o word_n word_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la §._o 12._o 12._o ●lioquin_n etiam_fw-la laicis_fw-la ius_fw-la est_fw-la est_fw-la ad_fw-la philadelph_n of_o the_o word_n clerus_fw-la or_o clergy_n clergy_n cypr._n passim_fw-la passim_fw-la in_o jerem._n hom_n 7._o 7._o de_fw-fr fuga_fw-la in_o persecut_fw-la quam_fw-la ipsi_fw-la authores_fw-la i._o ipsi_fw-la 〈◊〉_d &_o presbyteri_fw-la &_o episcopi_fw-la fugiunt_fw-la quomodo_fw-la laicus_fw-la etc._n etc._n cum_fw-la deuce_n fugiunt_fw-la quis_fw-la de_fw-la