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A94737 Romanism discussed, or, An answer to the nine first articles of H.T. his Manual of controversies. Whereby is manifested, that H.T. hath not (as he pretends) clearly demonstrated the truth of the Roman religion by him falsly called Catholick, by texts of holy scripture, councils of all ages, Fathers of the first five hundred years, common sense, and experience, nor fully answered the principal objections of protestants, whom he unjustly terms sectaries. By John Tombes, B.D. And commended to the world by Mr. Richard Baxter. Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1660 (1660) Wing T1815; Thomason E1051_1; ESTC R208181 280,496 251

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to_o look_v to_o the_o ordination_n of_o bishop_n and_o compose_v of_o difference_n and_o the_o meaning_n be_v that_o each_o of_o those_o bishop_n of_o rome_n alexandria_n and_o antioch_n shall_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n in_o his_o look_v to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n each_o in_o his_o province_n as_o ruffinus_n express_v the_o canon_n and_o the_o arrbick_n and_o other_o interpreter_n and_o paschasinus_n the_o pope_n legate_n in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n allege_v it_o thus_o that_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexendria_n shall_v have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d power_n over_o all_o because_o so_o it_o be_v accustom_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n which_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o all_o simple_o for_o than_o it_o shall_v have_v be_v thus_o mean_v the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n be_v to_o have_v power_n of_o all_o because_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n have_v power_n of_o all_o and_o so_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n shall_v be_v supreme_a bishop_n as_o the_o pope_n and_o so_o in_o stead_n of_o one_o visible_a supreme_a head_n there_o shall_v be_v more_o which_o romanist_n brook_v not_o but_o it_o must_v be_v mean_v of_o equal_a power_n and_o charge_v give_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n in_o his_o province_n with_o that_o which_o by_o custom_n the_o roman_a have_v in_o he_o and_o for_o the_o inference_n from_o the_o word_n because_o to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n also_o this_o be_v accustom_v that_o it_o argue_v he_o to_o be_v above_o the_o other_o it_o be_v vain_a it_o prove_v only_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n power_n to_o have_v be_v the_o pattern_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o alexandria_n his_o power_n but_o not_o great_a yea_o it_o prove_v a_o equality_n between_o they_o since_o it_o ascribe_v the_o same_o to_o the_o one_o which_o be_v accustom_v to_o the_o other_o sect_n x._o of_o the_o emperor_n call_v council_n pope_n joan_n papist_n kill_v prince_n excommunicate_a not_o keep_v faith_n with_o heretic_n h._n t._n proceed_v obj._n the_o emperor_n heretofore_o call_v and_o preside_v in_o general_a council_n answ_n they_o call_v they_o instrumental_o i_o grant_v by_o way_n of_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n i_o deny_v and_o they_o preside_v also_o in_o they_o for_o peace_n and_o ornament_n true_a for_o definition_n or_o judgement_n it_o be_v most_o false_a that_o always_o be_v reserve_v to_o the_o pope_n i_o will_v not_o sit_v among_o they_o as_o emperor_n say_v constantine_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o pope_n leo_n about_o the_o six_o general_n council_n i_o will_v not_o speak_v imperious_o with_o they_o but_o 〈◊〉_d one_o of_o they_o and_o what_o the_o father_n shall_v ordain_v i_o will_v execute_v emperor_n subscribe_v council_n 〈…〉_z constitution_n but_o execution_n god_n say_v constantine_n to_o the_o nicene_n council_n have_v make_v you_o priest_n and_o give_v you_o
a_o acknowledge_v true_a member_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o yet_o no_o separation_n from_o the_o whole_a and_o therefore_o this_o position_n of_o h._n t._n will_v not_o be_v yield_v he_o without_o better_a proof_n and_o demonstration_n that_o the_o separation_n from_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o protestant_n have_v make_v can_v stand_v with_o union_n with_o the_o catholic_n church_n in_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n which_o sure_o he_o have_v not_o yet_o prove_v nor_o be_v it_o likely_a he_o ever_o will_v but_o as_o the_o fashion_n of_o these_o scribbler_n be_v sing_v over_o again_o and_o again_o their_o cuckoo_n song_n of_o the_o catholic_n roman_n church_n and_o that_o protestant_n be_v heretic_n and_o sectary_n with_o other_o popish_a gibberish_n though_o the_o folly_n and_o frivolousness_n thereof_o have_v be_v a_o thousand_o time_n demonstrate_v i_o have_v thus_o at_o last_o examine_v these_o nine_o article_n be_v move_v thereto_o out_o of_o hope_n to_o do_v some_o soul_n good_a by_o recover_v they_o out_o of_o the_o snare_n in_o which_o they_o be_v hold_v by_o satan_n and_o romish_a emissary_n if_o they_o shut_v their_o eye_n against_o the_o light_n their_o judgement_n will_v be_v of_o themselves_o i_o shall_v add_v prayer_n for_o they_o that_o god_n will_v open_v their_o eye_n and_o if_o time_n health_n and_o other_o concurrence_n suit_n with_o my_o aim_n discover_v the_o vanity_n of_o the_o rest_n of_o h._n t._n his_o manual_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n not_o as_o some_o romanist_n blasphemous_o praise_v be_v to_o the_o virgin_n mother_n in_o the_o end_n of_o their_o write_n but_o as_o paul_n conclude_v his_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n so_o do_v i_o to_o god_n only_o wise_a be_v glory_n through_o jesus_n christ_n for_o ever_o amen_n finis_fw-la the_o content_n article_n i._n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o demonstrate_v to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n by_o its_o succession_n page_n 1_o sect._n 1_o of_o the_o title_n of_o h._n t._n his_o manual_n in_o which_o be_v show_v to_o be_v a_o vain_a vaunt_n of_o what_o he_o have_v not_o perform_v ibid._n 2._o of_o the_o epistle_n prefix_v in_o which_o he_o ascribe_v too_o much_o to_o the_o church_n and_o deceitful_o begin_v with_o her_o authority_n 3_o 3._o his_o tenet_n of_o the_o falsity_n of_o all_o church_n not_o own_v the_o pope_n be_v show_v to_o be_v most_o absurd_a 4_o 4._o the_o succession_n require_v by_o h._n t._n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n 7_o 5._o none_o of_o the_o text_n allege_v by_o h._n t._n prove_v a_o necessity_n to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n of_o such_o succession_n as_o he_o imagine_v 10_o 6._o the_o succession_n pretend_v in_o the_o roman_a church_n prove_v not_o the_o verity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o the_o contrary_n 11_o 7._o the_o catalogue_n of_o h._n t._n be_v defective_a for_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o pretend_a succession_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o first_o three_o hundred_o year_n 13_o 8._o the_o catalogue_n of_o h._n t._n be_v defective_a for_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o pretend_a succession_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o the_o four_o and_o five_o century_n of_o year_n 18_o 9_o the_o defect_n of_o h._n t._n his_o catalogue_n for_o proof_n of_o his_o succession_n in_o six_o seven_o eight_o nine_o ten_o century_n be_v show_v 21_o 10._o the_o defect_n of_o his_o catalogue_n in_o the_o eleven_o and_o twelve_o age_n be_v show_v 25_o 11._o the_o defect_n of_o his_o catalogue_n in_o the_o thirteen_o and_o fourteen_o age_n be_v show_v 28_o 12._o the_o defect_n of_o his_o catalogue_n in_o the_o fifteen_o and_o sixteen_o age_n be_v show_v 32_o 13._o the_o close_a of_o h._n t._n be_v retort_v 36_o 14._o h._n t._n have_v not_o solve_v the_o protestant_n objection_n 38_o article_n ii_o protestant's_n have_v that_o succession_n which_o be_v sufficient_a to_o demonstrate_v they_o to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n of_o god_n 42_o sect._n 1._o protestant_n church_n need_v not_o prove_v such_o a_o succession_n as_o papist_n demand_n ibid._n 2._o the_o argument_n of_o h._n t._n against_o protestant_n do_v as_o well_o prove_v the_o nullity_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n for_o want_n of_o succession_n as_o of_o the_o protestant_n 44_o 3._o protestant_n have_v have_v a_o succession_n sufficient_a to_o aver_v their_o doctrine_n 47_o 4._o the_o succession_n in_o the_o greek_a church_n may_v be_v allege_v for_o protestant_n notwithstanding_o the_o exception_n of_o h._n t._n 51_o 5._o the_o doctrine_n of_o romanist_n be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o five_o hundred_o year_n nor_o be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v so_o by_o learned_a protestant_n 53_o 6._o the_o answer_n of_o h._n t._n to_o the_o objection_n of_o protestant_n concern_v their_o succession_n be_v show_v to_o be_v vain_a and_o the_o apostasy_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v prove_v 56_o article_n iii_o such_o visibility_n of_o succession_n as_o the_o romanist_n require_v be_v not_o prove_v to_o be_v necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n 62_o sect._n 1._o exterior_a consecration_n and_o ordination_n of_o minister_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o the_o be_v of_o a_o visible_a church_n and_o what_o h._n t._n require_v of_o minister_n preach_v and_o administer_a sacrament_n be_v most_o defective_a in_o the_o roman_a church_n ibid._n 2._o neither_o isai_n 2._o 2._o matth._n 5._o 14._o psalm_n 18._o 19_o 4._o nor_o the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n origen_n cyprian_n chrysostome_n augustine_n prove_v such_o a_o church_n visibility_n as_o h._n t._n assert_n 65_o 3._o h._n t._n have_v not_o solve_v the_o protestant_n objection_n against_o the_o visibility_n of_o the_o church_n as_o it_o be_v by_o h._n t._n assert_v 66_o article_n iu._n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o that_o one_o catholic_n church_n which_o in_o the_o apostolic_a and_o nicene_n creed_n be_v make_v the_o object_n of_o christian_a faith_n 69_o 1._o 〈◊〉_d in_o nonfundamentals_a of_o faith_n and_o in_o discipline_n be_v not_o essential_o presuppose_v to_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o church_n militant_a ibid._n 2._o the_o ambiguity_n of_o h._n t._n his_o say_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n its_o unity_n and_o universality_n be_v show_v 70_o 3._o unity_n of_o discipline_n under_o one_o visible_a head_n and_o of_o faith_n without_o division_n in_o lesser_a point_n be_v not_o prove_v from_o 1_o cor._n 10._o 17._o ephes_n 1._o 22_o 23._o john_n 10._o 16._o 1_o cor._n 1._o 10._o act_n 4._o 32._o john_n 17._o 11._o and_o the_o nicene_n creed_n necessary_a to_o the_o church_n be_v 71_o 4._o it_o be_v notorious_o false_a that_o the_o romanist_n be_v perfect_o one_o or_o have_v better_a unity_n or_o mean_n of_o unity_n than_o protestant_n and_o h._n t._n his_o argument_n from_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n be_v better_a against_o than_o for_o the_o roman_a church_n 73_o 5._o the_o argument_n of_o h._n t._n from_o the_o unity_n of_o a_o natural_a body_n be_v against_o he_o for_o protestant_n 77_o 6._o the_o universality_n which_o matth._n 28._o 20._o ephes_n 4._o 12_o 13._o john_n 14._o 15_o 16._o luke_n 1._o 33._o for_o time_n psalm_n 85._o 86_o 9_o isai_n 2._o 2._o matth._n 28._o 20._o psalm_n 19_o 4._o for_o place_n agree_v not_o to_o the_o now_o roman_a church_n but_o may_v be_v better_o say_v of_o the_o protestant_n 78_o 7._o the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n origen_n lactantius_n cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n augustine_n be_v not_o for_o the_o universality_n of_o h._n t._n by_o which_o he_o assert_v the_o catholicism_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n but_o against_o it_o 80_o 8._o it_o be_v nonsense_n or_o false_a to_o term_v the_o roman_a church_n the_o catholic_n church_n and_o the_o shift_n of_o h._n t._n to_o avoid_v this_o objection_n be_v discover_v 81_o article_n v._o the_o roman_a church_n be_v neither_o prove_v to_o be_v the_o catholic_n church_n nor_o the_o high_a visible_a judge_n of_o controversy_n nor_o be_v it_o prove_v that_o she_o be_v infallible_a both_o in_o her_o proposition_n and_o definition_n of_o all_o point_n of_o faith_n nor_o to_o have_v power_n from_o god_n to_o oblige_v all_o man_n to_o obey_v she_o under_o pain_n of_o damnation_n but_o all_o this_o be_v a_o mere_a impudent_a arrogant_a claim_n of_o romanist_n that_o have_v no_o colour_n of_o proof_n from_o scripture_n or_o antiquity_n 85_o sect._n 1._o the_o decit_fw-la of_o h._n t._n in_o assert_v a_o infallibility_n and_o judicature_n of_o controversy_n in_o the_o church_n which_o he_o mean_v of_o the_o pope_n be_v show_v ibid._n 2._o luke_n 10._o 16._o prove_v not_o the_o roman_a or_o catholic_n church_n infallibility_n 87_o 3._o matth_n 18._o 17._o or_o 18._o 1_o john_n 4._o 6._o mark_v 16._o 15_o 16._o make_v nothing_o for_o the_o claim_n