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hen._n 8._o advance_v under_o king_n edward_n perfect_v under_o queen_n elizabeth_n and_o of_o the_o warrantableness_n thereof_o pag._n 62._o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o lawful_a call_n of_o our_o english_a protestant_n bishop_n against_o doctor_n champny_n sorbonist_n and_o of_o the_o first_o prejudice_n from_o other_o reform_a church_n that_o have_v not_o ordination_n by_o bishop_n pag._n 89._o chap._n iu._n of_o the_o second_o prejudice_n against_o the_o ordination_n from_o the_o protestant_a opinion_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n and_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n heretical_a pag._n 131._o chap._n v._o of_o the_o three_o prejudice_n from_o the_o protestant_a opinion_n of_o the_o romish_a order_n that_o they_o be_v sacrilegious_a and_o do_v not_o give_v a_o indelible_a character_n pag._n 156._o chap._n vi_o of_o archhishop_n cranmers_n ordination_n and_o the_o pretend_a defect_n of_o it_o bigamy_n and_o heresy_n pag._n 177._o chap._n vii_o of_o bishop_n ordain_v in_o king_n 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tyranny_n with_o which_o they_o assert_v and_o impose_v so_o that_o if_o there_o can_v be_v a_o full_a general_n council_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n they_o will_v undoubted_o be_v declare_v many_o of_o they_o heretical_a 13._o from_o whence_o it_o follow_v that_o heresy_n thus_o lie_v upon_o they_o may_v give_v we_o just_a cause_n to_o renounce_v their_o error_n and_o quit_v their_o communion_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v necessitate_v by_o renounce_v their_o error_n though_o not_o just_a cause_n to_o condemn_v or_o renounce_v the_o order_n give_v by_o they_o or_o receive_v from_o they_o this_o may_v give_v answer_n to_o all_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o doctor_n champny_n in_o his_o nine_o cap._n pag._n 335_o 336._o out_o of_o the_o father_n against_o order_n give_v by_o heretic_n for_o they_o concern_v either_o heretic_n in_o fundamental_o or_o such_o as_o be_v declare_v so_o and_o actual_o separate_v from_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n 14._o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v far_o that_o when_o our_o first_o reform_v bishop_n be_v ordain_v by_o they_o the_o grand_a heresy_n and_o mother_n of_o their_o other_o error_n as_o to_o the_o obstinate_a a_o heretical_a defend_n of_o they_o i_o mean_v the_o papal_a power_n and_o authority_n be_v abjure_v and_o therefore_o their_o ordainer_n however_o yet_o in_o romish_a error_n can_v not_o be_v proper_o heretical_a or_o peremptory_o engage_v to_o defend_v the_o same_o as_o afterward_o they_o be_v especial_o since_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v make_v they_o error_n establish_v and_o swear_v to_o but_o after_o that_o we_o go_v not_o to_o they_o for_o order_n yet_o do_v acknowledge_v they_o have_v ordination_n still_o substantial_o valid_a and_o therefore_o we_o do_v not_o re-ordain_a priest_n that_o return_v from_o they_o to_o we_o because_o the_o substance_n or_o evangelical_n institution_n be_v by_o those_o word_n receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o sin_n you_o remit_v etc._n etc._n retain_v still_o in_o the_o roman_a ordination_n though_o clog_v and_o depress_v by_o additional_a corruption_n but_o cause_v they_o to_o renounce_v those_o additional_o and_o other_o romish_a error_n so_o then_o the_o sum_n of_o our_o first_o answer_n be_v we_o do_v account_v they_o to_o be_v in_o heresy_n and_o deep_a than_o when_o we_o receive_v ordination_n from_o they_o yet_o so_o as_o not_o actual_o and_o whole_o cut_v off_o from_o the_o catholic_a church_n either_o by_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o heresy_n itself_o cast_v off_o from_o the_o foundation_n or_o by_o declaration_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n cast_v they_o out_o of_o the_o unity_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v upon_o our_o account_v they_o heretic_n that_o we_o can_v not_o lawful_o receive_v order_n from_o they_o 15._o heresy_n a_o supply_n of_o defect_n in_o ordination_n through_o heresy_n our_o second_o answer_n be_v from_o the_o supply_n of_o any_o defect_n in_o our_o ordination_n receive_v from_o they_o that_o suppose_v they_o heretic_n in_o such_o a_o condition_n as_o make_v they_o forfeit_v their_o union_n which_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o consequent_o the_o due_a and_o lawful_a use_n of_o the_o power_n of_o ordain_v yet_o do_v it_o not_o follow_v that_o we_o can_v have_v it_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a that_o we_o recover_v it_o by_o leave_v they_o in_o that_o which_o hinder_v the_o due_a and_o lawful_a use_n of_o it_o in_o they_o and_o so_o the_o romanist_n answer_n for_o the_o bishop_n which_o they_o own_o and_o yet_o be_v ordain_v by_o cranmer_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o schism_n as_o they_o call_v it_o say_v they_o recover_v the_o lawful_a use_n by_o return_v from_o schism_n and_o heresy_n in_o queen_n mary_n time_n when_o they_o be_v reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n so_o if_o upon_o our_o charge_v they_o with_o heresy_n we_o must_v suppose_v they_o can_v not_o lawful_o ordain_v nor_o we_o lawful_o receive_v order_n from_o they_o then_o must_v it_o conformable_o be_v suppose_v that_o we_o have_v depose_v their_o heresy_n and_o leave_v their_o communion_n and_o by_o no_o other_o heresy_n forfeit_v our_o union_n with_o the_o catholic_a church_n do_v recover_v the_o due_a and_o lawful_a use_n of_o order_n and_o may_v lawful_o administer_v they_o to_o other_o and_o now_o do_v it_o in_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n 16._o champny_n do_v foresee_v this_o may_v be_v answer_v by_o we_o and_o therefore_o seek_v to_o cut_v we_o off_o from_o this_o plea_n by_o reply_v that_o defect_n of_o lawful_a ordination_n and_o vocation_n which_o be_v in_o cranmer_n by_o suppose_a heresy_n in_o his_o ordainer_n can_v not_o be_v supply_v but_o by_o his_o reunion_n to_o the_o true_a church_n and_o pastor_n thereof_o but_o beside_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n there_o be_v no_o other_o church_n or_o lawful_a pastor_n by_o reconciliation_n to_o which_o he_o
can_v have_v that_o defect_n supply_v not_o other_o reform_a church_n for_o they_o can_v less_o prove_v themselves_o to_o be_v church_n or_o to_o have_v lawful_a vocation_n of_o pastor_n than_o the_o church_n of_o england_n can_v not_o the_o grecian_a russian_a or_o ethiopic_a church_n for_o they_o also_o be_v in_o schism_n and_o heresy_n and_o our_o english_a reformer_n pretend_v not_o to_o receive_v their_o call_n from_o they_o or_o to_o have_v it_o supply_v by_o they_o therefore_o they_o can_v no_o way_n have_v their_o defect_n supply_v or_o recover_v the_o lawful_a use_n of_o ordination_n so_o he_o p._n 337._o etc._n etc._n thus_o have_v argue_v against_o our_o vocation_n upon_o our_o supposal_n of_o heresy_n in_o those_o we_o acknowledge_v our_o ordainer_n and_o boast_v of_o it_o as_o a_o indissoluble_a argument_n pag._n 335._o he_o be_v now_o fain_o to_o take_v away_o the_o supposal_n itself_o by_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v the_o only_a lawful_a pastor_n and_o that_o none_o else_o in_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n can_v give_v lawful_a ordination_n or_o make_v a_o supply_n of_o what_o be_v want_v the_o issue_n indeed_o of_o this_o point_n of_o heresy_n either_o charge_v by_o we_o upon_o they_o that_o give_v order_n or_o by_o they_o on_o we_o who_o receive_v they_o which_o will_v be_v his_o argument_n below_o come_v to_o this_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o only_a church_n in_o who_o communion_n the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n be_v confine_v and_o ordination_n to_o be_v have_v and_o therefore_o we_o and_o all_o other_o out_o of_o it_o be_v in_o schism_n and_o heresy_n and_o can_v have_v no_o lawful_a ordination_n to_o this_o hold_n after_o all_o the_o velitation_n and_o light_n skirmish_v upon_o our_o supposal_n it_o be_v necessary_a he_o shall_v retire_v himself_o 17._o now_o the_o strength_n of_o this_o hold_n stand_v but_o upon_o their_o unreasonable_a phansy_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o of_o one_o society_n in_o subjection_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o pastor_n general_n or_o vicar_n of_o christ_n by_o which_o they_o judge_v of_o heresy_n and_o schism_n and_o admit_v none_o as_o return_v from_o it_o but_o by_o actual_a reconciliation_n and_o submission_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o in_o queen_n mary_n time_n what_o he_o say_v of_o our_o not_o pretend_v to_o receive_v our_o call_n from_o other_o church_n heretic_n reconciliation_n of_o schismatic_n and_o heretic_n or_o to_o have_v the_o defect_n of_o our_o ordination_n supply_v by_o they_o be_v true_a but_o to_o no_o purpose_n for_o the_o suppose_a defect_n in_o the_o romish_a ordination_n which_o we_o receive_v do_v as_o above_o say_v cease_v upon_o our_o leave_v off_o or_o quit_v that_o which_o be_v suppose_v to_o cause_v that_o defect_n in_o the_o romish_a church_n nor_o be_v it_o needful_a either_o for_o the_o supply_n of_o any_o such_o defect_n or_o for_o the_o state_v we_o in_o the_o union_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n that_o we_o be_v a_o national_a church_n and_o independ_v on_o any_o foreign_a jurisdiction_n shall_v upon_o our_o disagreement_n with_o rome_n be_v bind_v to_o apply_v ourselves_o to_o other_o church_n by_o actual_a reconciliation_n or_o full_a agreement_n in_o what_o they_o hold_v or_o practise_v of_o which_o in_o 16._o sect._n of_o former_a book_n for_o private_a man_n indeed_o and_o particular_a company_n of_o man_n return_v from_o heresy_n or_o schism_n actual_a reconciliation_n to_o the_o church_n of_o which_o they_o be_v member_n or_o from_o which_o they_o depart_v be_v necessary_a but_o not_o so_o for_o a_o national_a and_o independ_v church_n such_o actual_a reconciliation_n when_o it_o have_v be_v perform_v be_v but_o of_o the_o solemnity_n of_o the_o business_n and_o may_v be_v to_o good_a purpose_n do_v when_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n stand_v entire_a in_o a_o condition_n fit_a to_o receive_v it_o but_o the_o soul_n of_o unity_n with_o the_o church_n be_v in_o the_o depose_n of_o heresy_n and_o profess_v the_o true_a faith_n and_o consequent_o communion_n with_o all_o other_o that_o do_v it_o not_o perhaps_o with_o a_o full_a agreement_n in_o all_o thing_n with_o we_o yet_o with_o a_o charitable_a compliance_n in_o not_o condemn_v we_o therefore_o as_o no_o church_n 18._o what_o he_o say_v of_o the_o roman_a church_n as_o the_o only_a true_a church_n to_o the_o conclude_v of_o all_o other_o church_n under_o schism_n and_o heresy_n be_v only_o say_v and_o not_o prove_v be_v but_o the_o product_n of_o the_o forementioned_a fancy_n that_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n be_v one_o society_n bind_v together_o in_o subjection_n to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n as_o head_n and_o general_a pastor_n and_o therefore_o heretic_n and_o schismatic_n can_v be_v restore_v but_o by_o reconciliation_n to_o he_o this_o he_o urge_v more_o proper_o though_o to_o as_o little_a purpose_n below_o cap._n 11._o where_o he_o strive_v to_o fasten_v heresy_n upon_o we_o because_o divide_v from_o that_o church_n and_o not_o yet_o reconcile_v to_o it_o tell_v we_o the_o ancient_a counsel_n of_o nice_a sardica_n and_o other_o do_v so_o esteem_v and_o conclude_v of_o heretical_a bishop_n of_o the_o arrian_n donatist_n and_o novatian_n as_o no_o bishop_n till_o receive_v and_o reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n it_o will_v be_v sufficient_a in_o this_o place_n to_o say_v i._o that_o this_o come_v not_o home_n to_o their_o purpose_n for_o those_o counsel_n do_v not_o appoint_v reconciliation_n to_o rome_n and_o for_o some_o time_n of_o the_o arrian_n heresy_n reconciliation_n to_o that_o church_n can_v not_o be_v good_a when_o as_o liberius_n the_o eject_v bishop_n have_v subscribe_v to_o that_o heresy_n for_o the_o recover_n of_o his_o see_n and_o faelix_fw-la that_o possess_v it_o be_v advance_v by_o compliance_n with_o the_o arrian_n faction_n which_o then_o prevail_v every_o where_n ii_o although_o such_o actual_a and_o solemn_a reconciliation_n of_o a_o national_a church_n with_o the_o bishop_n thereof_o to_o the_o body_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v fit_a to_o be_v perform_v while_o that_o body_n stand_v still_o conspicuous_o in_o good_a proportion_n as_o it_o do_v in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o arian_n heresy_n yet_o when_o once_o that_o heresy_n have_v overbear_v all_o and_o almost_o all_o bishop_n with_o their_o flock_n turn_v arrian_n in_o so_o much_o that_o constantius_n the_o emperor_n tell_v liberius_n as_o the_o romanist_n do_v usual_o reproach_v we_o that_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v against_o athanasius_n and_o liberius_n as_o yet_o catholic_n answer_v for_o their_o paucity_n time_n be_v when_o three_o only_o stand_v for_o the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n against_o the_o king_n dan._n 3._o as_o appear_v in_o 1._o tom._n council_n when_o i_o say_v it_o be_v thus_o with_o the_o church_n how_o can_v such_o actual_a and_o solemn_a reconciliation_n of_o any_o arian_n bishop_n or_o nation_n return_v from_o heresy_n be_v well_o make_v enough_o it_o be_v for_o such_o to_o depose_v their_o heresy_n and_o profess_v communion_n with_o all_o christian_n wheresoever_o that_o hold_v the_o true_a faith_n so_o be_v it_o enough_o for_o our_o bishop_n and_o this_o nation_n to_o forsake_v the_o heresy_n and_o profess_v communion_n with_o all_o other_o church_n not_o guilty_a of_o the_o romish_a error_n and_o not_o impose_v the_o belief_n or_o practice_n of_o that_o we_o differ_v in_o as_o the_o condition_n of_o their_o communion_n and_o thus_o far_o in_o answer_n to_o his_o inference_n from_o our_o charge_v antichristianisme_n or_o heresy_n upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n chap._n v._n of_o the_o three_o prejudice_n from_o our_o judgement_n of_o their_o order_n that_o they_o be_v sacrilegious_a and_o do_v not_o give_v a_o indelible_a character_n 1._o his_o next_o argument_n be_v draw_v from_o our_o doctrine_n or_o judgement_n touch_v their_o order_n which_o we_o hold_v sacrilegious_a abominable_a unlawful_a and_o therefore_o can_v be_v lawful_a in_o we_o who_o confess_v we_o receive_v order_n from_o they_o this_o be_v the_o title_n and_o work_n of_o his_o 10._o chapter_n and_o here_o he_o begin_v his_o contest_v with_o m._n mason_n who_o he_o chief_o undertake_v through_o the_o remainder_n of_o his_o book_n to_o refute_v touch_v the_o argument_n we_o must_v note_v by_o the_o way_n that_o the_o charge_n of_o sacrilege_n and_o abomination_n lay_v upon_o their_o ordination_n by_o protestant_n sacrilegious_a how_o protestant_n call_v their_o order_n sacrilegious_a do_v immediate_o concern_v their_o order_n of_o priest_n by_o reason_n of_o the_o sacrifice_a power_n give_v they_o but_o the_o argument_n thereupon_o proceed_v also_o against_o their_o bishop_n who_o be_v such_o priest_n and_o from_o who_o be_v such_o we_o derive_v our_o order_n and_o cranmer_n and_o other_o be_v make_v by_o they_o such_o priest_n before_o they_o be_v
by_o our_o saviour_n and_o his_o apostle_n must_v affirm_v that_o go_v out_o from_o the_o communion_n of_o a_o church_n determine_v to_o such_o a_o place_n or_o succession_n be_v not_o always_o a_o go_v out_o of_o the_o church_n for_o that_o church_n may_v happy_o usurp_v a_o jurisdiction_n and_o require_v a_o unlawful_a subjection_n and_o pervert_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o that_o a_o church_n continue_v the_o same_o for_o place_n and_o succession_n may_v yet_o go_v out_o from_o itself_o i._n e._n from_o what_o it_o be_v ancient_o by_o take_v to_o itself_o a_o new_a unwarrantable_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o forsake_v the_o doctrine_n it_o ancient_o profess_v 12._o for_o a_o church_n to_o go_v out_o of_o itself_o and_o return_v to_o itself_o need_v not_o seem_v any_o strange_a thing_n or_o phrase_n it_o be_v what_o we_o see_v in_o every_o penitent_a sinner_n and_o read_v of_o that_o unthrifty_a son_n s._n luk._n 15.17_o that_o he_o come_v to_o himself_o he_o be_v go_v 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it_o which_o be_v the_o purpose_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o both_o kind_n to_o the_o communicant_n dare_v they_o say_v of_o this_o sacrament_n it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o our_o saviour_n do_v appoint_v it_o in_o the_o determinate_a matter_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n if_o they_o dare_v yet_o be_v it_o wisdom_n according_a to_o champny_n former_a resolution_n and_o advise_v in_o point_n of_o ordination_n not_o to_o omit_v either_o part_n which_o our_o saviour_n have_v appoint_v and_o the_o ancient_a church_n constant_o administer_v to_o the_o people_n 7._o ordination_n of_o their_o unction_n in_o ordination_n now_o for_o our_o omission_n of_o their_o unction_n which_o be_v the_o main_a of_o those_o ceremony_n we_o use_v not_o we_o say_v they_o can_v prove_v it_o apostolical_a or_o that_o it_o be_v use_v in_o ordination_n by_o the_o greek_a church_n but_o admit_v it_o be_v use_v ancient_o in_o the_o western_a church_n we_o say_v it_o be_v but_o a_o tolerable_a or_o convenient_a 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as_o one_o be_v a_o sacrament_n so_o be_v the_o other_o and_o from_o the_o one_o he_o sometime_o argue_v to_o prove_v the_o like_a in_o the_o other_o as_o from_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n to_o the_o form_n of_o ordination_n as_o we_o see_v above_o in_o his_o 10._o chap._n and_o may_v below_o in_o his_o 14._o pag._n 480._o which_o because_o it_o make_v for_o better_a clear_v this_o business_n of_o the_o form_n of_o ordination_n we_o will_v here_o insert_v 9_o there_o he_o thus_o argue_v quemadmodum_fw-la si_fw-la aliâ_fw-la formâ_fw-la &_o ritu_fw-la etc._n etc._n even_o as_o if_o parker_n for_o there_o he_o dispute_v against_o his_o ordination_n from_o the_o form_n of_o it_o have_v be_v baptize_v after_o any_o other_o form_n or_o manner_n than_o augustine_n deliver_v he_o have_v not_o receive_v true_a baptism_n so_o neither_o true_a ordination_n be_v ordain_v by_o another_o form_n than_o austin_n be_v ordain_v and_o do_v ordain_v by_o and_o pag._n 483._o he_o thus_o again_o argue_v against_o our_o answer_v that_o we_o retain_v in_o our_o form_n of_o ordination_n what_o be_v essential_a and_o according_a to_o scripture_n si_fw-mi nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la ad_fw-la essentiam_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o nothing_o else_o pertein_a to_o the_o essence_n of_o baptism_n or_o holy_a order_n but_o what_o be_v express_v in_o scripture_n than_o the_o form_n both_o of_o baptism_n and_o ordination_n use_v in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v because_o no_o where_n express_v in_o scripture_n how_o false_a this_o no_o where_n express_v in_o scripture_n be_v of_o the_o form_n of_o baptism_n i_o note_v above_o under_o his_o first_o proposition_n and_o how_o the_o form_n of_o ordination_n be_v in_o scripture_n either_o express_o contain_v or_o deducible_a and_o approvable_a by_o it_o be_v also_o there_o declare_v but_o by_o both_o these_o reason_v it_o appear_v that_o to_o he_o
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