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A90063 Irenicum; or, An essay towards a brotherly peace & union, between those of the congregational and presbyterian way; shewing out of the most learned and renowned divines of the congregational way, that their positions concerning 1. Church matters and members. 2. Church constitution and form. 3. Church state. 4. Church officers and ordination. 5. Church government and censures. 6. Church combinations and synods. 7. Communion with and separation from churches. are sufficient for the establishing a firme and lasting peace between them and the Presbyterians ... In pursuance of the good design begun at the Savoy, where it was agreed, and declared, that such reforming churches as consist of persons sound in the faith, and of conversation becoming the Gospel, ought not to refuse the communion of each other ... Drawn up and published by Discipulus de Tempore Junior. Newcomen, Matthew, 1610?-1669.; D. T. 1659 (1659) Wing N910; Thomason E978_1; ESTC R202985 58,516 89

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give_v in_o wisdom_n and_o compassion_n to_o his_o church_n quest_n 1_o 2._o 3._o therefore_o how_o those_o church_n can_v be_v say_v to_o come_v near_o the_o rule_n and_o walk_v close_a to_o the_o rule_n who_o either_o have_v no_o officer_n at_o all_o as_o the_o church_n of_o h._n and_o the_o church_n of_o n._n or_o else_o content_a themselves_o with_o one_o officer_n a_o pastor_n have_v neither_o teacher_n ruler_n nor_o deacon_n as_o most_o of_o the_o gather_a church_n in_o england_n be_v this_o to_o walk_v according_a to_o rule_v be_v not_o this_o either_o to_o slight_v the_o compassion_n of_o christ_n in_o give_v these_o officer_n or_o to_o contradict_v the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n and_o proclaim_v those_o office_n needless_a and_o useless_a which_o christ_n judge_v needful_a and_o useful_a and_o therefore_o appoint_v in_o his_o church_n 5._o ordination_n be_v a_o fundamental_a in_o church_n discipline_n and_o give_v the_o officer_n right_a in_o his_o office_n jus_o in_o re_fw-mi 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profession_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o faith_n as_o our_o spiritual_a union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n our_o head_n mystical_o see_v qu●st_n 13._o answ_n therefore_o the_o sacrament_n be_v note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n as_o the_o protestant_a writer_n have_v always_o maintain_v against_o the_o papist_n 9_o a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n because_o he_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n quest_n 14._o therefore_o the_o church_n covenant_n as_o they_o call_v it_o give_v not_o a_o man_n his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o be_v not_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n nor_o be_v the_o sacrament_n a_o seal_n of_o that_o 10._o for_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o party_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n not_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a quest_n 14._o therefore_o whether_o the_o congregation_n be_v constitute_v after_o this_o or_o that_o form_n by_o express_a covenant_n or_o not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o independent_a congregation_n or_o a_o classical_a congregation_n it_o be_v all_o one_o if_o a_o man_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n he_o come_v in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n 11._o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v their_o member-ship_n in_o their_o infancy_n shall_v come_v to_o their_o trial_n and_o examination_n before_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o supper_n and_o this_o examination_n may_v be_v make_v by_o the_o elder_n yea_o in_o some_o case_n it_o be_v necessary_a it_o shall_v be_v so_o and_o for_o all_o woman_n it_o be_v most_o warrantable_a and_o most_o without_o exception_n therefore_o such_o examination_n in_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v not_o sinful_a and_o unlawful_a nor_o deserve_v so_o much_o ignominy_n and_o scorn_n as_o some_o have_v cast_v upon_o it_o 12._o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n not_o only_o of_o our_o communion_n with_o christ_n and_o with_o the_o member_n of_o our_o own_o church_n but_o with_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n see_v quest_n 16._o therefore_o they_o who_o will_v partake_v with_o none_o but_o the_o member_n of_o their_o own_o church_n or_o a_o church_n of_o the_o like_a constitution_n nor_o suffer_v their_o member_n to_o partake_v in_o none_o but_o their_o own_o church_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o great_a breach_n of_o christian_a love_n that_o can_v be_v unsaint_v and_o unchurch_v all_o the_o church_n that_o christ_n have_v upon_o the_o earth_n but_o themselves_o and_o with_o a_o kind_n of_o papal_a pride_n judge_v and_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v all_o other_o church_n contrary_a to_o their_o own_o principle_n that_o say_v no_o one_o church_n have_v power_n over_o another_o 13._o the_o wickedness_n of_o a_o minister_n do_v no_o way_n make_v void_a the_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n nor_o give_v the_o people_n a_o dispensation_n to_o contemn_v it_o see_v quest_n 18._o 14._o the_o roll_a elder_n office_n be_v so_o clear_o and_o full_o ground_v in_o scripture_n as_o none_o can_v controvert_v it_o but_o he_o who_o spirit_n and_o apprehension_n be_v prepossess_v and_o forestall_v with_o prejudice_n quest_n 21.22_o 15._o the_o power_n and_o work_v of_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v very_o great_a and_o his_o office_n very_o needful_a in_o the_o church_n quest_n 23_o 24._o therefore_o they_o that_o will_v have_v none_o of_o these_o roll_a elder_n over_o they_o but_o leave_v all_o to_o themselves_o and_o their_o liberty_n and_o by_o this_o mean_n be_v not_o only_o single_a member_n or_o officer_n but_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o elder_n and_o all_o this_o generation_n of_o man_n cast_v off_o the_o lord_n government_n be_v son_n of_o korah_n who_o condemnation_n sleep_v not_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 24._o answ_n 1._o quaere_fw-la whether_o some_o other_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o as_o well_o as_o anabaptist_n familist_n etc._n etc._n 16._o if_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v confine_v within_o his_o compass_n the_o wing_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o bishop_n will_v be_v clip_v and_o their_o power_n exceed_o impeach_v quest_n 25._o therefore_o there_o be_v neither_o truth_n or_o modesty_n in_o they_o that_o say_v the_o presbyterian_a government_n which_o be_v manage_v by_o roll_a elder_n as_o well_o as_o the_o congregational_a be_v as_o tyrannical_a as_o prelacy_n and_o as_o antichristian_a as_o popery_n 17._o it_o be_v the_o devil_n subtlety_n to_o disgrace_n divide_v pull_v down_o the_o roll_a elder_n quest_n 23._o let_v they_o therefore_o consider_v who_o work_n they_o do_v and_o what_o reward_n without_o repentance_n they_o be_v like_a to_o have_v who_o drive_v such_o a_o design_n 18._o deacon_n be_v officer_n institute_v by_o christ_n and_o needful_a to_o be_v continue_v in_o the_o church_n quest_n 26._o 19_o the_o maintenance_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o act_n of_o justice_n not_o mercy_n debt_n not_o alm_n quest_n 28._o 20._o officer_n and_o ordinance_n be_v bestow_v upon_o the_o visible_a church_n not_o for_o their_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a that_o be_v among_o they_o who_o good_a next_o under_o his_o own_o glory_n christ_n principal_o intend_v quest_n 29._o therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o first_o in_o christ_n intention_n therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n especial_o the_o church_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n as_o such_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o boast_v herself_o in_o her_o privilege_n as_o the_o spouse_n and_o lacie_n and_o queen_n of_o christ_n see_v these_o and_o all_o other_o privilege_n be_v give_v she_o not_o for_o her_o own_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a chap._n v._o of_o church_n government_n and_o censure_n question_v 1_o who_o be_v the_o seat_n or_o subject_n of_o church_n rule_n or_o government_n answ_n church_n government_n 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reprove_v they_o will_v reprove_v again_o what_o shall_v not_o the_o church_n have_v liberty_n a_o elder_n give_v reason_n strong_a and_o unanswerable_a for_o something_o to_o be_v do_v a_o young_a fellow_n step_v up_o and_o say_v without_o ground_n or_o show_v of_o it_o that_o be_v your_o light_n and_o i_o be_v otherwise_o what_o may_v not_o the_o church_n have_v liberty_n yes_o but_o you_o be_v not_o the_o church_n this_o be_v very_o sad_a and_o have_v be_v a_o root_n of_o great_a scandal_n that_o ever_o god_n way_n have_v idem_fw-la page_n 102._o line_n 9_o etc._n etc._n 3._o in_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o office_n according_a to_o christ_n they_o be_v over_o the_o whole_a church_n heb._n 13._o obey_v they_o that_o rule_v you_o he_o speak_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n mr._n shepherd_n wholesome_a caveat_n pag._n 102._o line_n 26._o their_o power_n right_o execute_v be_v the_o power_n of_o christ_n hence_o refuse_v it_o you_o refuse_v to_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o if_o man_n 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inquire_v after_o the_o fruit_n in_o the_o husbandry_n of_o christ_n but_o you_o can_v quarrel_v and_o snap_v at_o the_o elder_n when_o they_o come_v to_o inquire_v of_o your_o condition_n and_o why_o do_v you_o inquire_v you_o take_v too_o much_o upon_o you_o ibid._n 5._o they_o have_v power_n to_o guide_v counsel_n and_o warn_v the_o church_n at_o least_o in_o all_o weighty_a affair_n which_o may_v concern_v they_o and_o their_o common_a good_a heb._n 13.17_o malac._n 2.7_o mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 106._o hence_o for_o man_n in_o matter_n of_o great_a and_o weighty_a affair_n which_o concern_v the_o good_a of_o the_o whole_a church_n nay_o all_o church_n never_o to_o inquire_v at_o abel_n be_v a_o cast_v off_o the_o lord_n as_o in_o election_n of_o officer_n in_o the_o church_n or_o magistrate_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n hence_o to_o receive_v any_o opinion_n different_a from_o all_o the_o elder_n in_o the_o church_n and_o never_o so_o much_o as_o speak_v much_o less_o come_v to_o a_o 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but_o say_v he_o tell_v i_o 1_o tim._n 5.20_o now_o this_o be_v sad_a when_o a_o man_n can_v bear_v reproof_n of_o other_o nor_o bear_v reproof_n of_o elder_n but_o turn_v again_o and_o will_v be_v judge_n in_o his_o own_o case_n though_o never_o so_o gross_a a_o sign_n of_o a_o extreme_a froward_a high_a spirit_n mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 108._o 7._o they_o be_v to_o feed_v in_o power_n as_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v every_o one_o in_o their_o place_n hence_o when_o man_n despise_v their_o food_n and_o they_o be_v poor_a thing_n they_o speak_v and_o they_o can_v see_v no_o matter_n in_o they_o and_o that_o after_o study_n prayer_n and_o tear_n and_o so_o cast_v it_o by_o that_o be_v to_o cast_v off_o the_o lord_n when_o man_n grow_v glut_v and_o full_a that_o they_o eat_v not_o a_o bit_n these_o thing_n call_v for_o chain_n mr._n shepherd_n pag._n 109._o quest_n 25._o but_o why_o be_v you_o thus_o large_a in_o set_v out_o the_o work_n and_o power_n of_o the_o 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in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v partly_o in_o the_o ordinance_n that_o be_v dispense_v ibid._n p._n line_n 20._o quest_n 4._o what_o be_v essential_a in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o ordinance_n answ_n in_o the_o person_n that_o dispense_v the_o kind_n of_o officer_n appoint_v to_o that_o work_n the_o nature_n bound_n and_o limit_n of_o their_o office_n all_o these_o be_v essential_o mr._n hooker_n ibid._n line_n 22._o quest_n 5._o what_o be_v the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o disperse_v answ_n the_o ordinance_n that_o these_o be_v to_o dispense_v be_v preach_v prayer_n seal_n church_n censure_n etc._n etc._n these_o all_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o word_n a_o fetch_v from_o the_o word_n and_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n they_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v the_o same_o in_o all_o place_n among_o all_o people_n at_o all_o time_n in_o all_o succeed_a generation_n until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n ibid._n line_n 25._o quest_n 6._o may_v there_o then_o be_v no_o alteration_n in_o these_o thing_n which_o you_o call_v essential_o answ_n it_o be_v not_o leave_v in_o the_o power_n of_o person_n officer_n church_n nor_o all_o the_o state_n in_o the_o world_n to_o add_v or_o diminish_v or_o alter_v any_o thing_n in_o the_o least_o measure_n but_o as_o god_n do_v appoint_v all_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o those_o institution_n do_v endure_v there_o ever_o as_o scripture_n speak_v until_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n when_o the_o same_o power_n which_o appoint_v change_v they_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n where_o be_v to_o expect_v no_o alteration_n christ_n the_o lawgiver_n he_o only_o appoint_v none_o but_o he_o can_v and_o he_o have_v make_v know_v his_o will_n that_o he_o will_v not_o change_v they_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1._o p._n 5._o l._n 32._o quest_n 7._o what_o be_v the_o circumstantial_o of_o government_n answ_n the_o circumstantial_o of_o discipline_n as_o time_n place_n the_o carrying_z on_o of_o these_o dispensation_n in_o civil_a decency_n suitable_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o time_n as_o peace_n and_o persecution_n the_o general_a rule_n of_o these_o be_v in_o the_o word_n deliver_v but_o the_o particular_a application_n admit_v variety_n mutability_n and_o alteration_n according_a as_o necessity_n or_o conveniency_n shall_v appear_v by_o emergent_a occasion_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 1_o page_n 6._o line_n 3._o quest_n 8._o you_o have_v speak_v already_o of_o most_o of_o the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n namely_o officer_n and_o ordinance_n of_o worship_n but_o what_o say_v you_o of_o church_n censure_n be_v they_o necessary_a answ_n the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n be_v appoint_v by_o christ_n for_o the_o prevent_n remove_v and_o heal_v of_o offence_n in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o reclaim_n and_o gain_v of_o offend_a brethren_n for_o the_o deter_v other_o from_o the_o like_a offence_n for_o purge_v out_o the_o leaven_n which_o may_v infect_v the_o whole_a lump_n for_o vindicate_v the_o honour_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o his_o church_n and_o the_o holy_a profession_n of_o his_o gospel_n and_o for_o prevent_v the_o wrath_n of_o god_n which_o may_v just_o fall_v upon_o the_o church_n if_o they_o shall_v suffer_v his_o covenant_n and_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o be_v profane_v by_o notorious_a and_o obstinate_a offender_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 1._o quest_n 9_o how_o many_o censure_n be_v there_o in_o the_o church_n answ_n three_o the_o first_o admonition_n the_o second_o suspension_n the_o three_o excommunication_n quest_n 10._o what_o be_v admonition_n answ_n admonition_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n the_o first_o more_o private_a when_o the_o offend_a brother_n admonish_v the_o offender_n of_o his_o offence_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n between_o he_o and_o the_o offender_n alone_o the_o second_o less_o private_a and_o yet_o not_o public_a when_o he_o take_v one_o or_o two_o with_o he_o platform_n of_o discipline_n chap._n 14._o sect_n 2._o mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 89._o quest_n 11._o but_o what_o if_o the_o offend_a party_n be_v not_o gain_v by_o either_o of_o these_o admonition_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n tell_v the_o church_n of_o it_o to_o wit_n in_o god_n way_n mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 12._o quest_n 12._o what_o do_v you_o mean_v by_o tell_v the_o church_n in_o god_n way_n answ_n the_o offend_a brother_n be_v by_o the_o mouth_n of_o the_o elder_n to_o tell_v it_o the_o church_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n sect_n 2._o that_o be_v he_o tell_v the_o elder_n who_o be_v the_o mouth_n of_o the_o church_n that_o by_o they_o it_o may_v be_v present_v before_o the_o church_n mr._n cotton_v way_n pag._n 90._o line_n 13._o the_o matter_n must_v first_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o by_o they_o debate_v and_o deliver_v to_o the_o church_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o p._n 36_o l._n 2._o quest_n 13._o but_o why_o must_v the_o mattor_n be_v first_o bring_v to_o the_o elder_n and_o debate_v by_o they_o answ_n 1._o for_o that_o they_o be_v guide_n and_o leader_n of_o the_o church_n heb._n 13.17_o the_o watchman_n and_o overseer_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o they_o must_v know_v the_o cause_n and_o controversy_n to_o the_o full_a in_o all_o circumstance_n difficulty_n wind_n and_o turn_n thereof_o that_o they_o may_v be_v able_a to_o lead_v the_o congregation_n in_o the_o way_n of_o peace_n and_o truth_n which_o they_o can_v do_v unless_o they_o know_v the_o way_n themselves_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part_v 3._o pag._n 36._o line_n 3._o 2._o to_o they_o it_o appertain_v to_o judge_v whether_o the_o thing_n be_v of_o weight_n and_o worth_n and_o so_o need_v and_o require_v the_o presence_n and_o assistance_n of_o the_o body_n to_o express_v their_o judgement_n against_o they_o and_o the_o party_n guilty_a of_o they_o or_o no_o for_o if_o they_o be_v petty_a business_n and_o altogether_o unfit_a and_o unworthy_a to_o trouble_v the_o congregation_n withal_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o prevent_v such_o causeless_a and_o needless_a disturbance_n and_o therefore_o to_o suppress_v any_o further_a proceed_n therein_o mr._n hooker_n part_v 3._o pag._n 36._o line_n 10._o object_n but_o by_o this_o mean_n if_o the_o elder_n be_v corrupt_a in_o judgement_n or_o partial_a in_o affection_n they_o may_v silence_v the_o weight_a cause_n that_o can_v be_v and_o so_o prejudice_v the_o innocency_n of_o those_o they_o be_v not_o friendly_a to_o and_o hinder_v the_o reformation_n of_o those_o who_o in_o a_o corrupt_a and_o partial_a way_n they_o sinful_o favour_n answ_n therefore_o as_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o suppress_v such_o petty_a occasion_n as_o be_v not_o worthy_a the_o time_n pain_n and_o disturbance_n that_o must_v be_v spend_v upon_o they_o so_o yet_o to_o prevent_v injustice_n and_o partiality_n in_o such_o case_n the_o party_n who_o take_v himself_o wrong_v may_v complain_v of_o the_o elder_n in_o that_o behalf_n and_o if_o the_o congregation_n see_v apparent_o that_o they_o have_v deal_v unjust_o and_o partial_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o rectify_v but_o if_o the_o complaint_n prove_v unjust_a and_o unreasonable_a be_v it_o at_o the_o peril_n of_o he_o that_o complain_v for_o he_o be_v to_o be_v censure_v sharp_o and_o severe_o as_o out_o of_o pride_n and_o perverseness_n refuse_v to_o listen_v to_o the_o seasonable_a advice_n and_o counsel_n of_o those_o who_o be_v set_v over_o he_o by_o the_o lord_n as_o also_o because_o he_o have_v needless_o disturb_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o congregation_n as_o much_o as_o in_o he_o lie_v hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_v 3._o pag._n 6._o line_n 26._o three_o the_o preparation_n be_v to_o be_v make_v by_o the_o elder_n because_o if_o the_o body_n of_o the_o people_n be_v numerous_a they_o will_v be_v unable_a with_o any_o comely_a conveniency_n to_o weigh_v all_o the_o circumstance_n and_o difficulty_n which_o will_v certain_o and_o necessary_o occur_v in_o such_o agitation_n nor_o can_v in_o reason_n bestow_v their_o time_n and_o pain_n upon_o they_o as_o the_o intricacy_n and_o perplexity_n of_o the_o work_n will_v sometime_o require_v ibid._n quest_n 14._o but_o what_o be_v the_o work_n or_o power_n of_o the_o member_n then_o in_o order_n unto_o censure_n answ_n as_o the_o brethren_n have_v a_o power_n of_o order_n and_o the_o privilege_n to_o expostulate_v with_o their_o brethren_n in_o case_n of_o private_a scandal_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n matth._n 18.15_o 16._o so_o in_o case_n of_o public_a scandal_n the_o whole_a church_n of_o brethren_n have_v power_n and_o privilege_n to_o join_v with_o the_o elder_n in_o inquire_v hear_v judge_v of_o public_a scandal_n so_o as_o to_o
and_o therefore_o till_o he_o be_v reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n by_o the_o penitent_a and_o public_a acknowledgement_n of_o his_o sin_n before_o they_o he_o do_v abstain_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n according_a to_o the_o direction_n of_o our_o saviour_n who_o will_v not_o have_v a_o offender_n present_v himself_o nor_o his_o gift_n before_o the_o altar_n while_o the_o guilt_n of_o the_o offence_n of_o his_o brother_n lie_v upon_o he_o mat._n 5.23_o 24._o or_o as_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o law_n do_v forbear_v to_o eat_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n while_o they_o lie_v in_o uncleanness_n leu._n 22._o 3_o 4._o or_o as_o one_o who_o lie_v in_o his_o uncleanness_n do_v rather_o pollute_v the_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o god_n by_o partake_v of_o it_o than_o receive_v any_o holiness_n from_o it_o mr._n cotton_v way_n of_o the_o church_n page_n 91._o line_n 26._o object_n but_o this_o seem_v to_o be_v but_o a_o voluntary_a act_n of_o the_o offend_a party_n this_o be_v not_o a_o church_n censure_n answ_n if_o the_o church_n discern_v the_o offend_a brother_n to_o be_v willing_a to_o hear_v but_o not_o yet_o full_o convince_v of_o his_o offence_n as_o in_o case_n of_o heresy_n they_o be_v to_o dispense_v to_o he_o a_o public_a admonition_n with_o declare_v the_o offender_n to_o be_v under_o the_o public_a offence_n of_o the_o church_n who_o do_v thereby_o withhold_v or_o suspend_v he_o from_o the_o holy_a fellowship_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o his_o offence_n be_v remove_v by_o penitent_a confession_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n cap._n 14._o sect_n 2._o and_o this_o be_v true_o and_o proper_o s●spensio_fw-la per_fw-la modum_fw-la censurae_fw-la hitherto_o of_o church_n government_n and_o censure_n now_o out_o of_o these_o particular_n draw_v we_o these_o position_n with_o inference_n thereupon_o 1._o church-government_n or_o rule_n be_v place_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n who_o therefore_o be_v call_v ruler_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 1._o therefore_o the_o fraternity_n be_v not_o the_o seat_n or_o subject_n of_o rule_n or_o power_n 2._o the_o essential_o of_o church-government_n be_v unalterable_a see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 1._o therefore_o they_o who_o believe_v roll_a elder_n to_o be_v essential_o of_o government_n and_o yet_o constitute_v none_o in_o their_o church_n live_v in_o a_o neglect_n of_o duty_n contrary_n to_o their_o judgement_n and_o persuasion_n 3._o church_n censure_n be_v christ_n appointment_n see_v answ_o to_o quest_n 7._o and_o can_v be_v dispense_v at_o least_o some_o of_o they_o without_o ruler_n see_v answ_o to_o q._n 19_o therefore_o church_n that_o have_v no_o ruler_n do_v not_o nor_o can_v observe_v all_o the_o ordinance_n and_o appoinment_n of_o jesus_n christ_n 4._o petty_a matter_n and_o small_a aberration_n be_v not_o to_o be_v censure_v by_o excommunication_n but_o such_o evil_n as_o be_v either_o heinous_a and_o abominable_a or_o at_o least_o be_v such_o as_o the_o mind_n and_o conscience_n of_o a_o man_n enlighten_v by_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n will_v condemn_v in_o any_o upon_o the_o first_o serious_a consideration_n see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 20_o 21._o 5._o offence_n be_v not_o immediate_o and_o at_o the_o first_o dash_n to_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o church_n or_o community_n but_o first_o to_o the_o elder_n to_o be_v consider_v debate_v ripen_v by_o they_o receive_v as_o serious_a and_o weighty_a or_o reject_v as_o slight_v and_o frivolous_a see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 11._o and_o therefore_o that_o tell_v the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o next_o immediate_a step_n after_o the_o first_o and_o second_o brethren_n and_o private_a admonition_n it_o be_v not_o tell_v the_o fraternity_n or_o community_n but_o tell_v the_o elder_n 6._o the_o power_n which_o the_o brethren_n have_v in_o censure_n it_o be_v not_o a_o power_n of_o rule_n and_o authority_n but_o a_o power_n of_o liberty_n and_o the_o judgement_n they_o pass_v it_o be_v not_o a_o judgement_n of_o authority_n but_o a_o judgement_n of_o discretion_n they_o be_v but_o as_o the_o jury_n the_o eldership_n be_v as_o the_o judge_n see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 14_o 15_o 16._o 7._o the_o church_n bind_v and_o lose_v only_o by_o consent_v to_o the_o judgement_n and_o sentence_n of_o the_o elder_n which_o consent_n of_o they_o be_v a_o act_n of_o obedience_n and_o they_o be_v bind_v to_o yield_v to_o it_o unless_o they_o can_v manifest_v that_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o eldership_n be_v corrupt_a and_o erroneous_a see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 18._o 8._o in_o doubtful_a case_n and_o in_o matter_n of_o difference_n it_o be_v seasonable_a to_o crave_v the_o help_n and_o counsel_n of_o neighbour_a church_n see_v answer_n to_o quest_n 19_o 9_o there_o be_v two_o sort_n of_o church-member_n some_o complete_a who_o be_v admit_v to_o all_o ordinance_n some_o incompleate_a who_o have_v receive_v their_o membership_n in_o their_o infancy_n be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o other_o church-priviledge_n till_o they_o have_v pass_v a_o trial_n and_o have_v receive_v approbation_n of_o their_o fitness_n for_o those_o enjoyment_n a_o offend_a brother_n lie_v under_o public_a admonition_n be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n before_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v therefore_o suspension_n be_v a_o censure_n distinct_a from_o admonition_n and_o excommunication_n chap._n vi_o of_o combination_n or_o consotiation_n of_o church_n into_o class_n or_o synod_n question_v 1_o whither_o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o particular_a congregation_n consist_v of_o elder_n and_o brethren_n and_o walk_v with_o a_o right_a foot_n in_o the_o truth_n and_o peace_n of_o the_o gospel_n to_o join_v together_o in_o consotiation_n on_o combination_n of_o church_n answ_n though_o the_o church_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n consist_v of_o elder_n and_o brethren_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o all_o church_n power_n needful_a 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