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pag._n 240.390_o fâ—â—b_n but_o when_o cresconius_n or_o other_o donatist_n will_v bring_v any_o thing_n out_o of_o he_o to_o prove_v what_o augustin_n judge_v a_o error_n he_o know_v how_o to_o set_v the_o scripture_n and_o apostle_n above_o he_o so_o do_v cyprian_n sharp_o speak_v against_o those_o who_o bring_v tradition_n for_o their_o proof_n qua_fw-la ista_fw-la obstinatio_fw-la qua_fw-la presumptio_fw-la humanam_fw-la traditionem_fw-la divine_a dispositîoni_fw-la anteponere_fw-la &_o c_o vnde_fw-la ista_fw-la traditio_fw-la vtrumne_n de_fw-fr dominica_fw-la &_o evangelica_fw-la auctoritate_fw-la descendens_fw-la 74._o ep_v 74._o &_o c_o so_o tertullian_n non_fw-la recipio_fw-la quod_fw-la extra_fw-la scripturam_fw-la de_fw-la two_o infert_fw-la bellarmine_n say_v enough_o patrum_fw-la scripta_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la regula_fw-la nec_fw-la habent_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la obligandi_fw-la to_o the_o scripture_n than_o let_v we_o go_v which_o speak_v so_o clear_a in_o this_o controversy_n that_o all_o man_n even_o the_o papist_n who_o call_v those_o man_n heretic_n that_o deny_v this_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n yet_o be_v force_v to_o yield_v it_o that_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v the_o same_o let_v cajetan_n interpretation_n be_v hear_v upon_o tit._n 1.5_o 7._o vbi_fw-la adverte_fw-fr eundem_fw-la gradum_fw-la idemquè_fw-fr officium_fw-la significari_fw-la à _fw-la paulo_n nomine_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la &_o nomine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la as_o cross_v to_o bishop_n davenant_n as_o can_v be_v anselm_n the_o archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n in_o his_o comment_n upon_o the_o same_o verse_n bring_v all_o hierons_n comment_n where_o he_o prove_v bishop_n and_o presbyter_n to_o be_v the_o same_o and_o no_o way_n oppose_v it_o estius_n who_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o disputation_n call_v they_o heretic_n who_o will_v not_o yield_v the_o superiority_n of_o bishop_n and_o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la in_o the_o midst_n of_o his_o disputation_n have_v these_o word_n quod_fw-la autem_fw-la jure_fw-la divinâ—_n sint_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la superiores_fw-la 25._o senten_n l._n 4._o d._n 24._o s._n 25._o etsi_fw-la non_fw-la ita_fw-la clarum_fw-la est_fw-la è_fw-la saoris_fw-la literis_fw-la aliunde_fw-la ramen_fw-la satis_fw-la efficaciter_fw-la probari_fw-la potest_fw-la probatur_fw-la tam_fw-la ratione_fw-la quà m_fw-la testimoniis_fw-la veterum_fw-la it_o seem_v then_o the_o scripture_n be_v not_o clear_a enough_o to_o prove_v this_o superiority_n in_o his_o opinion_n and_o which_o be_v divine_o speak_v though_o he_o can_v not_o prove_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o this_o superiority_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n yet_o he_o will_v prove_v it_o by_o reason_n and_o testimony_n of_o ancient_n haddit_n a_o presbyterian_a write_v thus_o he_o shall_v have_v be_v scorn_v to_o purpose_n take_v the_o papist_n again_o in_o their_o i._n c._n do_v 60._o sacre_n ordines_fw-la dicimus_fw-la diaconatum_fw-la &_o presbyteratum_fw-la hos_fw-la enimsolos_fw-la primitiva_fw-la legitur_fw-la habuisse_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la according_a to_o these_o then_o your_o antiquity_n for_o episcopacy_n must_v not_o go_v so_o high_a as_o the_o primitive_a church_n one_o more_o papist_n and_o i_o have_v do_v with_o they_o i_o find_v greg._n de_fw-fr valen._n 2._o de_fw-fr sacr._n ord._n disp_n 9_o q._n 1._o p._n 2._o quote_v of_o michael_n medina_n one_o of_o their_o own_o affirm_v that_o hierem_fw-la and_o all_o the_o father_n he_o have_v name_v before_o which_o be_v angustin_n ambrose_n chrysostom_n primasius_n theophylact_fw-mi and_o otcumenius_n fuisse_fw-la planè_fw-la in_o errore_fw-la acrii_fw-la but_o the_o church_n do_v not_o condemn_v this_o error_n in_o they_o but_o bare_a with_o they_o because_o they_o be_v otherwise_o orthodox_n but_o do_v condemn_v it_o in_o acrius_fw-la be_v otherwise_o in_o multis_fw-la nominibus_fw-la hareticus_fw-la then_o it_o seem_v acrius_fw-la who_o be_v against_o this_o superiority_n by_o divine_a right_n have_v these_o worthy_a man_n in_o that_o point_n to_o agree_v with_o he_o in_o medina_n judgement_n with_o who_o valentia_n be_v not_o please_v to_o conclude_v as_o to_o testimony_n learned_a and_o sober_a jewel_n a_o jewel_n indeed_o in_o his_o defence_n against_o harding_n p._n 101_o 202._o quote_v testimony_n out_o of_o hierom_n ambrose_n augustin_n conclude_v that_o by_o the_o scripture_n of_o god_n a_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v all_o one_o thus_o this_o reverend_a bishop_n i_o wonder_v these_o testimony_n ground_v also_o on_o scripture_n can_v not_o moderate_v our_o brethren_n heat_n in_o this_o controversy_n we_o hope_v presbyterial_a ordination_n will_v not_o be_v so_o contemptible_a at_o last_o i_o have_v but_o one_o thing_n to_o add_v and_o it_o be_v considerable_a the_o syriack_n translation_n which_o be_v so_o ancient_a that_o in_o time_n it_o come_v near_o the_o original_a and_o be_v think_v by_o some_o to_o have_v 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