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that_o worthy_a divine_a doctor_n seaman_n have_v answer_v i_o cast_v my_o eye_n upon_o it_o long_o since_o but_o do_v not_o now_o remember_v any_o thing_n pro_n or_o con_n what_o there_o be_v say_v or_o in_o any_o other_o man_n what_o then_o i_o can_v gather_v from_o scripture_n and_o reason_n i_o shall_v humble_o offer_v to_o the_o reader_n and_o to_o mr._n noyes_n in_o answer_n to_o what_o he_o have_v say_v against_o it_o not_o many_o year_n since_o humane_a ceremony_n add_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n how_o much_o trouble_n and_o misery_n they_o add_v to_o the_o church_n we_o have_v not_o yet_o forget_v man_n write_v and_o speak_v so_o far_o as_o they_o dare_v and_o suffer_v by_o reason_n of_o they_o man_n wit_n be_v now_o busy_v as_o much_o in_o throw_v out_o of_o god_n worship_n as_o they_o be_v in_o add_v why_o then_o we_o may_v not_o now_o stand_v up_o in_o desence_n of_o god_n ceremony_n if_o this_o be_v but_o a_o ceremony_n as_o they_o oppose_v man_n ceremony_n i_o know_v not_o come_v then_o to_o imposition_n etc._n etc._n let_v we_o hear_v a_o little_a what_o other_o man_n have_v say_v about_o it_o and_o first_o for_o great_a calvin_n who_o i_o hear_v allege_v against_o imposition_n which_o i_o a_o little_a wonder_v at_o know_v calvin_n have_v speak_v sufficient_o for_o it_o 1._o 16._o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 3._o s_o 16._o licet_fw-la nullum_fw-la extet_fw-la certum_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la de_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositione_n quia_fw-la tamen_fw-la fuisse_fw-la in_o perpetuo_fw-la usu_fw-la apostolis_n videmus_fw-la illa_fw-la tam_fw-la accurata_fw-la eorum_fw-la observatio_fw-la prae_fw-la cepti_fw-la vice_fw-la nobis_fw-la esse_fw-la debet_fw-la 2._o again_o impositionem_fw-la manuum_fw-la 20._o l._n 4._o c._n 14._o s_o 20._o qua_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ministri_fw-la in_fw-la suum_fw-la munus_fw-la initiarentur_fw-la non_fw-la invitus_fw-la patior_fw-la vocari_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la 3._o again_o 16._o l._n 4._o c._n 2._o s_o 16._o et_fw-la certè_fw-la utile_fw-la est_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la symbolo_fw-la ministerii_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la populo_fw-la commendari_fw-la etc._n etc._n praeterea_fw-la non_fw-la erit_fw-la inane_fw-la signum_fw-la si_fw-la in_o germanam_fw-la svam_fw-la originem_fw-la restitutum_fw-la fuerit_fw-la nam_fw-la si_fw-la nihil_fw-la frustra_fw-la spiritus_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la dei_fw-la instituit_fw-la hanc_fw-la ceremoniam_fw-la cum_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la profecta_fw-la sit_fw-la sentiemus_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la inutilem_fw-la modo_fw-la in_o superstitiosum_fw-la usum_fw-la now_o vertatur_fw-la see_v he_o again_o l._n 4._o c._n 19_o s_o 31._o calvin_n judgement_n be_v clear_a with_o his_o reason_n for_o it_o chemnitius_n give_v we_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o lutheran_n church_n say_v 221._o exam._n council_n trid._n p._n 221._o nec_fw-la manuum_fw-la impositionem_fw-la vocare_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la gravabimur_fw-la i_o omit_v austin_n who_o call_v it_o so_o long_o before_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 3._o as_o the_o church-member_n consist_v of_o body_n as_o well_o as_o soul_n which_o body_n must_v be_v provide_v for_o by_o other_o if_o they_o have_v not_o of_o their_o own_o to_o uphold_v they_o and_o since_o god_n have_v give_v in_o charge_n that_o collection_n shall_v be_v make_v for_o the_o poor_a since_o also_o there_o be_v divers_a thing_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o thing_n about_o the_o church_n which_o must_v have_v money_n to_o buy_v they_o and_o to_o answer_v for_o they_o hence_o it_o stand_v with_o right_a reason_n that_o a_o officer_n be_v choose_v and_o authorize_v to_o be_v the_o church-treasurer_n to_o take_v in_o these_o collection_n and_o money_n and_o by_o these_o to_o serve_v the_o poor_n table_n the_o lord_n table_n i_o conceive_v they_o have_v their_o love-feast_n at_o that_o time_n also_o and_o why_o they_o shall_v not_o attend_v upon_o the_o minister_n at_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n i_o know_v 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