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A92172 A briefe narration of some church courses held in opinion and practise in the churches lately erected in New England. Collected out of sundry of their own printed papers and manuscripts with other good intelligences. Together with some short hints (given by the way) of their correspondence with the like tenents and practises of the separatists churches. And some short animadversions upon some principall passages for the benefit of the vulgar reader. Presented to publike view for the good of the church of God by W. R. Rathband, William, d. 1695. 1644 (1644) Wing R298; Thomason E36_11; ESTC R21802 84,830 61

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1.13_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o bond_n by_o which_o they_o be_v unite_v togethert_n and_o our_o brethren_n themselves_o do_v sometime_o acknowledge_v a_o universal_a visible_a church_n though_o usual_o they_o deny_v it_o as_o apol._n p._n 16._o 21._o 37._o 40._o yea_o and_o officer_n too_o of_o that_o catholic_a church_n viz._n apostles_n and_o evangelist_n which_o therefore_o while_o they_o remain_v baptize_v person_n into_o that_o church_n wheresoever_o they_o meet_v with_o they_o without_o any_o respect_n to_o a_o congregationall_a church_n as_o themselves_o acknowledge_v nationall_n and_o provincial_n church_n much_o more_o a_o universal_a visible_a church_n in_o any_o sense_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 62._o 63._o 66._o apol._n p._n 7._o 23._o r._n m._n to_o e._n b._n p._n 2._o rob._n justif_a p._n 217._o 3._o also_o they_o deny_v all_o woman_n all_o yet_o sometime_o themselves_o be_v force_v to_o use_v commissioner_n or_o messenger_n to_o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n absent_a as_o at_o the_o constitution_n of_o any_o new_a church_n as_o after_o follow_v so_o in_o their_o private_a examination_n of_o member_n to_o be_v admit_v as_o after_o too_o especial_o in_o their_o late_a synod_n at_o cambridge_n in_o n._n e._n and_o always_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v present_a include_v other_o that_o be_v absent_a by_o representation_n and_o the_o male_n the_o woman_n representative_a church_n whether_o the_o officer_n of_o one_o particular_a congregation_n represent_v that_o church_n in_o the_o judicature_n within_o itself_o or_o the_o commissioner_n of_o several_a church_n meet_v together_o in_o a_o compound_n presbytery_n or_o synod_n represent_v all_o those_o church_n by_o who_o they_o be_v send_v rob._n justif_a 162._o 4._o this_o particular_a visible_a church_n they_o define_v to_o this_o effect_n it_o be_v a_o mystical_a body_n whereof_o christ_n be_v the_o head_n the_o member_n be_v saint_n call_v out_o of_o the_o world_n and_o 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to_o be_v tongue_n and_o eye_n as_o well_o as_o other_o to_o be_v hand_n and_o foot_n thereto_o i._n e._n some_o to_o rule_v as_o well_o as_o other_o to_o be_v rule_v one_o congregation_n by_o a_o holy_a covenant_n to_o worship_v the_o lord_n and_o edify_v one_o another_o in_o all_o his_o holy_a ordinance_n cott._n cat_n p._n 1._o answ_n to_o 32._o q._n p._n 13._o chap._n iii_o of_o the_o matter_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n what_o be_v require_v thereunto_o and_o how_o the_o same_o may_v be_v know_v 1._o the_o matter_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n be_v either_o infant_n or_o person_n of_o age_n and_o understanding_n 2._o in_o person_n of_o age_n they_o require_v first_o that_o they_o be_v all_o real_a gracious_a real_a all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n shall_v be_v saint_n holy_a etc._n etc._n but_o there_o be_v a_o external_a and_o federall_a holiness_n 1_o cor._n 7._o and_o i_o real_a internal_a holiness_n that_o be_v absolute_o necessary_a to_o church_n estate_n this_o not_o what_o shall_v become_v of_o our_o intant_n else_o we_o shall_v exclude_v they_o as_o anabaptist_n do_v unless_o we_o fly_v to_o that_o shift_n which_o rob._n just_o if_o p_o 309._o do_v that_o all_o infant_n within_o the_o church_n be_v true_o convert_v and_o so_o as_o fit_v material_n for_o a_o church_n as_o the_o best_a elder_n people_n be_v 2._o real_a and_o internal_a holiness_n be_v doubtless_o require_v of_o all_o church-member_n viz._n in_o foro_fw-la interno_fw-la and_o unto_o acceptation_n with_o god_n but_o not_o in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la and_o unto_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n 3._o there_o be_v a_o double_a aught_o to_o be_v saint_n or_o obligation_n to_o real_a holiness_n one_o moral_n vi_fw-la praecepti_fw-la because_o god_n have_v command_v all_o his_o people_n to_o be_v holy_a as_o he_o be_v holy_a 1_o pet._n 1._o another_o physical_a as_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o the_o mere_a be_v of_o the_o church_n and_o without_o which_o it_o be_v a_o false_a church_n no_o church_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n all_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v holy_a not_o in_o this_o latter_a r._n for_o if_o it_o be_v so_o essential_a then_o either_o that_o all_o shall_v be_v so_o holy_a or_o that_o some_o of_o they_o only_o not_o that_o all_o for_o than_o that_o will_v overthrow_v the_o truth_n not_o only_o of_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n beside_o but_o also_o of_o their_o own_o too_o into_o which_o not_o only_o their_o reason_n but_o also_o their_o experience_n have_v teach_v they_o that_o both_o hypocrite_n and_o heretic_n may_v wind_v in_o themselves_o nor_o that_o some_o of_o they_o only_o for_o there_o be_v no_o more_o reason_n for_o some_o to_o be_v bind_v to_o be_v holy_a then_o for_o all_o beside_o at_o the_o exect_n of_o some_o church_n suppose_v the_o first_o 7._o or_o 8._o that_o combine_v in_o church-covenant_n shall_v all_o prove_v hypocrite_n as_o it_o be_v not_o impossible_a but_o not_o as_o yet_o discover_v whether_o be_v this_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n or_o no_o and_o if_o another_o though_o a_o true_a believer_n join_v himself_o to_o they_o be_v he_o a_o member_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n or_o no_o how_o shall_v he_o know_v his_o stand_n in_o that_o church_n to_o be_v lawful_a or_o how_o can_v he_o in_o faith_n continue_v in_o their_o fellowship_n partake_v with_o they_o in_o ordinance_n and_o submit_v to_o their_o censure_n or_o join_v with_o they_o in_o censure_v of_o other_o see_v by_o this_o rule_n they_o be_v none_o of_o they_o true_a saint_n but_o all_o hypocrite_n that_o their_o church_n want_v true_a matter_n and_o so_o be_v uncapable_a of_o the_o true_a form_n of_o a_o church_n and_o therefore_o prove_v a_o false_a church_n and_o all_o their_o church_n act_n and_o his_o with_o they_o be_v so_o many_o nullity_n usurpation_n prevarication_n 4._o if_o none_o but_o real_a saint_n may_v be_v admit_v than_o none_o but_o such_o may_v be_v retain_v will_v they_o then_o excommunicate_v all_o person_n out_o of_o their_o church_n that_o live_v without_o scandal_n yet_o be_v not_o cenvince_o gracious_a saint_n sincere_a believer_n not_o only_o have_v common_a gift_n but_o also_o save_v grace_n that_o they_o be_v not_o common_a but_o choice_n christian_n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 8._o 9_o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 4._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 69._o 70._o apol._n p._n 2._o 6._o 21._o 43._o cott._n cat_n p._n 1._o 4._o r._n m._n to_o e._n b._n p._n 5._o 9_o so_o rob._n just_a p._n 11._o 38._o 41._o 47._o 48._o 61._o 91._o 254._o yea_o convince_o such_o t._n g._n to_o j._n g._n meek_n and_o humble_a spirit_n for_o fear_v they_o shall_v abuse_v their_o church-power_n e._n o._n to_o w._n r._n void_a of_o insincere_a end_n in_o seek_v of_o church-communion_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 4._o if_o any_o other_o shall_v attempt_v to_o be_v admit_v the_o church_n be_v bind_v upon_o discovery_n to_o repel_v they_o apol._n p._n 2._o 3._o 4._o 5._o 24._o 33._o 43._o r._n m._n to_o e._n b._n p._n 5._o the_o reason_n of_o which_o be_v render_v lest_o they_o take_v a_o harlot_n into_o the_o bosom_n of_o christ_n in_o stead_n of_o a_o chaste_a spouse_n if_o any_o such_o be_v admit_v they_o be_v not_o true_a but_o false_a matter_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n 3._o that_o the_o church_n may_v consist_v of_o none_o but_o real_a saint_n so_o far_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v they_o hold_v the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o make_v same_o make_v admit_v it_o be_v necessary_a ad_fw-la esse_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la that_o all_o the_o member_n shall_v be_v real_o holy_a yet_o still_o the_o question_n may_v be_v by_o what_o rule_n we_o shall_v estimate_v that_o their_o holiness_n whether_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o a_o large_a charity_n which_o believe_v and_o hope_v all_o thing_n judge_v
as_o usual_o it_o do_v among_o divine_n it_o we_o do_v but_o distinguish_v between_o admission_n into_o the_o ch._n real_a and_o formal_a between_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o thing_n and_o the_o ceremony_n or_o formality_n thereof_o the_o substance_n and_o real_a admission_n indeed_o usual_o go_v before_o bap●_n for_o infant_n of_o parent_n within_o the_o church_n be_v bear_v within_o the_o church_n and_o so_o real_o within_o it_o before_o they_o be_v haptize_v and_o believer_n of_o age_n make_v open_a profession_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n be_v ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la make_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n by_o their_o visible_a profession_n but_o the_o formal_a admission_n of_o both_o in_o the_o solemn_a performance_n of_o it_o be_v both_o act_v and_o seal_v at_o once_o in_o baptism_n which_o be_v as_o it_o be_v a_o christian_n formal_a matriculation_n or_o inrollment_n among_o the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n it_o this_o be_v not_o so_o then_o let_v they_o tell_v i_o what_o and_o when_o be_v the_o formal_a admission_n of_o infant_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o be_v they_o never_o formal_o admit_v until_o they_o come_v to_o age_n baptism_n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n 12._o nor_o cohabitation_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 14_o 20._o nor_o voluntary_a and_o usual_a frequent_v the_o same_o place_n of_o worship_n subject_v a_o man_n self_n to_o the_o same_o officer_n and_o law_n of_o government_n nor_o join_v himself_o in_o all_o holy_a fellowship_n both_o public_a and_o private_a with_o the_o same_o society_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 21._o nor_o the_o law_n of_o the_o land_n make_v by_o the_o magistrate_n authority_n with_o our_o own_o implicit_a consent_n in_o parliament_n appoint_v that_o all_o professor_n of_o religion_n that_o sit_v down_o within_o such_o and_o such_o precinct_n shall_v be_v of_o such_o a_o society_n or_o church_n apol._n p._n 14._o nor_o all_o these_o together_o without_o the_o church_n covenant_n which_o only_o be_v sufficient_a to_o do_v it_o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 24._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 5_o 14_o 18-21_a 24_o 25._o apol._n p._n 19_o 24._o 3._o this_o covenant_n they_o hold_v to_o be_v distinct_a from_o the_o church_n the_o be_v the_o question_n only_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n to_o be_v either_o enter_v into_o or_o renew_v again_o and_o again_o at_o the_o constitution_n or_o restitution_n of_o church_n the_o matter_n be_v soon_o at_o a_o end_n that_o will_v be_v easy_o grant_v to_o be_v necessary_a yea_o essential_a and_o such_o only_o be_v all_o the_o scripture_n covenant_n which_o be_v usual_o cite_v by_o they_o to_o prove_v their_o church_n covenant_n but_o that_o will_v not_o serve_v their_o turn_n 2._o or_o be_v it_o of_o a_o covenant_n between_o the_o officer_n and_o their_o people_n i_o conceive_v there_o will_v be_v no_o strife_n this_o be_v tacit_o employ_v in_o their_o mutual_a choice_n each_o of_o other_o you_o shall_v be_v our_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n and_o we_o will_v be_v your_o people_n provide_v 1._o it_o be_v not_o obtrude_v as_o essential_a or_o absolute_o necessary_a to_o have_v it_o express_v 2._o that_o it_o be_v understand_v with_o a_o salvo_fw-la jure_fw-la not_o only_o to_o that_o particular_a church_n and_o member_n nor_o only_o to_o that_o particular_a officer_n but_o also_o to_o all_o other_o church_n who_o have_v a_o common_a interest_n each_o in_o other_o for_o the_o good_a of_o all_o most_o of_o all_o to_o god_n himself_o 3._o yea_o if_o it_o be_v of_o a_o covenant_n between_o the_o church_n and_o her_o member_n and_o each_o member_n with_o another_o of_o remain_v together_o as_o a_o fix_a society_n till_o death_n without_o extraordinary_a impediment_n as_o a_o thing_n in_o itself_o arbitrary_a and_o occisionall_a only_o upon_o some_o particular_a reason_n call_v for_o it_o i_o speak_v what_o i_o think_v this_o also_o will_v not_o be_v deny_v 4._o or_o which_o be_v all_o that_o can_v with_o any_o colour_n of_o reason_n be_v define_v if_o it_o be_v of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n only_o bind_v the_o member_n to_o the_o discipline_n and_o covernment_n of_o such_o a_o church_n during_o man_n convenient_a abode_n with_o it_o as_o a_o thing_n expedient_a only_o for_o the_o better_a be_v and_o better_o govern_n of_o the_o church_n i_o say_v a_o ecclesiastical_a constitution_n consonant_n to_o general_a rule_n of_o scripture_n though_o not_o precise_o command_v therein_o and_o which_o may_v therefore_o be_v intend_v temit_v or_o alter_v pro_fw-la re_fw-mi natâ_fw-la according_a to_o the_o general_a rule_n of_o scripture_n at_o the_o church_n discretion_n such_o as_o be_v the_o covenant_n or_o promise_n require_v of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o dutch_a and_o french_a churcher_n there_o will_v not_o have_v be_v many_o adversary_n but_o when_o a_o express_a vocal_a covenant_n be_v hold_v forth_o and_o with_o all_o eagerness_n press_v on_o we_o and_o on_o all_o church_n as_o a_o divine_a ordinance_n particular_o command_v in_o scripture_n absolute_o necessary_a essential_a and_o constitutive_a to_o a_o true_a church_n without_o which_o there_o be_v no_o true_a church_n but_o all_o society_n be_v whore_n and_o concubine_n and_o without_o which_o there_o be_v no_o right_a unto_o nor_o orderly_a participation_n of_o any_o church_n duty_n or_o ordinance_n and_o this_o so_o obligatory_a that_o it_o be_v piaculum_fw-la to_o remove_v from_o that_o society_n with_o which_o one_o be_v in_o covenant_n without_o their_o general_a consent_n seek_v at_o least_o as_o after_o be_v show_v and_o not_o only_o so_o but_o also_o letter_n be_v send_v over_o with_o strong_a line_n to_o dissuade_v our_o people_n from_o live_v any_o long_o in_o the_o way_n they_o have_v do_v out_o of_o church_n order_n because_o out_o of_o church_n covenant_n sermon_n be_v likewise_o preach_v book_n print_v and_o private_a discourse_n make_v and_o in_o all_o these_o argument_n artificial_o use_v and_o possionate_o and_o perswasive_o urge_v yea_o the_o scripture_n themselves_o force_v to_o speak_v for_o their_o church_n covenant_n as_o a_o divine_a ordinance_n etc._n etc._n i_o say_v when_o it_o be_v thus_o hold_v forth_o and_o urge_v on_o we_o no_o marvel_n if_o it_o be_v not_o entertain_v without_o much_o agitation_n yea_o if_o it_o meet_v with_o much_o opposition_n and_o that_o among_o the_o godly_a and_o learned_a both_o person_n and_o church_n covenant_n of_o grace_n so_o as_o that_o many_o which_o be_v within_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n i.e._n effectual_o yea_o and_o visible_o call_v too_o be_v not_o within_o the_o church_n covenant_n and_o so_o not_o within_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o job_n melchizedek_n etc._n etc._n of_o who_o before_o and_o again_o many_o be_v within_o the_o church_n covenant_n and_o so_o within_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o be_v not_o within_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o hypocrite_n in_o the_o church_n apol._n p._n 5_o 6_o 14_o 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though_o not_o pure_a christian_n church_n and_o patch_v up_o other_o of_o their_o own_o make_n get_v some_o from_o one_o parish_n yea_o town_n city_n some_o from_o another_o dwell_v many_o mile_n asunder_o and_o therefore_o seldom_o or_o never_o meet_v together_o but_o at_o public_a worship_n when_o they_o have_v both_o their_o holiday_n clothes_n and_o course_n on_o whereby_o other_o pastor_n be_v rob_v of_o their_o sheep_n confusion_n be_v breed_v in_o the_o church_n the_o pattern_n of_o scripture_n churches_n be_v forsake_v which_o ever_o describe_v the_o member_n of_o each_o church_n by_o the_o place_n of_o their_o cohabitation_n and_o beside_o other_o inconvenience_n the_o main_a end_n pretend_v for_o their_o so_o firm_a and_o close_o unite_n by_o covenant_n viz._n mutual_a watch_v over_o each_o other_o be_v utter_o prevent_v cohabite_v together_o as_o near_o as_o may_v be_v for_o their_o better_a mutual_a watch_v one_o over_o another_o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 4._o cott._n cat_n p._n 5._o 11._o a_o four_o thing_n be_v they_o must_v be_v such_o as_o know_v what_o belong_v to_o then_o to_o therefore_o if_o any_o man_n deny_v or_o but_o doubt_n of_o this_o church-covenant_n viz._n as_o distinct_a from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n their_o church_n door_n be_v for_o ever_o shut_v against_o he_o god_n help_v i_o then_o church-covenant_n and_o approve_v thereof_o j._n p._n to_o w._n r._n t._n g._n to_o j._n g._n 12._o last_o they_o must_v seek_v and_o desire_v church-membership_a and_o church-fellowship_n viz._n in_o their_o way_n of_o it_o apol._n p._n 11.39_o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 4._o j.w._n ans_fw-fr to_o 10._o quest_n j.w._n to_o t.s._n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 8._o cott._n cat_n p._n 4._o which_o if_o they_o do_v not_o they_o account_v they_o other_o they_o this_o be_v harsh_a of_o all_o the_o rest_n may_v not_o such_o forbearance_n proceed_v out_o of_o humility_n or_o modesty_n though_o unwarrantable_a ignorance_n or_o tenderness_n of_o conscience_n as_o scruple_v their_o covenant_n and_o the_o course_n follow_v it_o discouragement_n or_o the_o like_a man_n forget_v the_o royal_a law_n of_o love_n to_o do_v as_o they_o will_v be_v do_v to_o some_o call_v sharp_o for_o charity_n charity_n to_o themselves_o that_o show_v but_o slender_a charity_n to_o other_o despiser_n of_o it_o yea_o wicked_a and_o graceless_a person_n and_o so_o unworthy_a of_o it_o apol._n p._n 25_o 26_o 27_o 34._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 69._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 21._o j.w._n ans_fw-fr to_o 10._o quest_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 28._o n._n concern_v the_o admission_n of_o infant_n see_v after_o in_o the_o 7._o chap._n of_o admission_n etc._n etc._n chap._n four_o of_o the_o form_n of_o the_o true_a visible_a church_n 1._o they_o hold_v the_o form_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n be_v that_o which_o they_o call_v the_o by_o the_o this_o point_n of_o church_n covenant_n be_v worthy_a of_o deep_a consideration_n for_o it_o will_v touch_v the_o freehold_n not_o only_o of_o our_o english_a church_n but_o also_o of_o all_o the_o church_n in_o the_o world_n if_o this_o be_v the_o rule_n to_o try_v all_o church_n by_o church-covenant_n whereby_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o society_n be_v unite_v to_o christ_n and_o one_o to_o another_o which_o therefore_o they_o count_v absolute_o necessary_a essential_a and_o constitutive_a to_o and_o of_o the_o true_a church_n discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 5-15_a ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 9_o 39_o apol._n p._n 6_o 9_o 17_o 19_o 20_o 21_o 24_o 25_o 38_o 39_o cott._n cat_n p._n 4._o without_o this_o no_o true_a church_n nor_o true_a church_n member_n but_o all_o be_v harlot_n and_o concubine_n apol._n p._n 20_o 24._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 14_o 18_o 19_o 20_o 21_o 24._o without_o it_o all_o man_n be_v without_o the_o church_n for_o which_o they_o usual_o cite_v 1_o cor._n 5.12_o and_o uncapable_a of_o any_o church_n privilege_n apol._n p._n 6_o 11_o 13_o 19_o 20_o 24_o 25_o 27_o 38_o 39_o 42._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 17_o 22_o 28._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 11_o 21_o 24_o 38._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 69._o so_o the_o separatist_n rob._n justif_a p._n 75_o 79_o 56_o 81_o 82_o 85_o 86_o 110_o 210_o 207_o 231_o 257_o 351._o 2._o no_o other_o tie_n nor_o all_o other_o imaginable_a without_o this_o they_o conceive_v be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o knit_v man_n together_o into_o one_o church_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o other_o way_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o by_o this_o not_o visible_a profession_n and_o practice_n of_o truth_n and_o holiness_n though_o never_o so_o complete_a and_o sincere_a therefore_o they_o say_v people_n say_v a_o strange_a yet_o bold_a assertion_n speak_v without_o proof_n of_o scripture_n consent_n of_o other_o author_n or_o good_a show_n of_o reason_n melchizedek_n be_v a_o priest_n and_o therefore_o pray_v preach_v and_o offer_v sacrifice_n but_o do_v he_o this_o by_o himself_o and_o for_o himself_o alone_o can_v there_o be_v a_o priest_n by_o office_n without_o a_o people_n job_n and_o melchisedek_n with_o other_o such_o eminent_o godly_a be_v yet_o no_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n because_o not_o within_o this_o church_n covenant_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 66._o discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 14._o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 28_o 37._o nor_o age_n nor_o robin_n justif_n p._n 230_o say_v '_o it_o be_v a_o anabaptillicall_a error_n to_o hold_v that_o baptism_n constitute_v the_o visible_a church_n i_o suppose_v his_o sense_n be_v the_o same_o with_o they_o when_o they_o say_v that_o baptism_n admit_v not_o into_o the_o visible_a church_n the_o contrary_a whereunto_o i_o conceive_v be_v neither_o popish_a nor_o anabapt_v but_o may_v well_o pass_v for_o orthodox_n
the_o lord_n in_o our_o particular_a calling_n shun_v idleness_n as_o the_o bane_n of_o any_o state_n nor_o will_v we_o deal_v hardly_o or_o oppress_o with_o any_o 9_o we_o will_v also_o to_o our_o best_a ability_n teach_v our_o child_n and_o servant_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o his_o will_n that_o they_o may_v serve_v he_o also_o o._n h._n 11._o this_o covenant_n thus_o distinguish_v from_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n they_o hold_v to_o be_v that_o covenant_n which_o be_v sequuntur_fw-la be_v here_o be_v a_o piece_n or_o two_o of_o such_o divinity_n as_o i_o never_o hear_v or_o read_v before_o but_o uno_fw-la absurdo_fw-la dato_fw-la mille_fw-la sequuntur_fw-la seal_v by_o the_o sacrament_n and_o for_o the_o seal_n and_o ratify_v of_o which_o the_o sacrament_n be_v principal_o ordain_v of_o god_n and_o therefore_o to_o be_v administer_v only_o to_o such_o as_o be_v first_o enter_v into_o this_o covenant_n as_o seal_n thereof_o apol._n p._n 15_o 19_o 31._o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 63_o 66._o and_o therefore_o that_o such_o person_n as_o by_o their_o condition_n can_v join_v in_o church_n covenant_n nor_o live_v in_o church_n fellowship_n with_o a_o set_a society_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o partake_v in_o sacrament_n apol._n p._n 39_o 41._o see_v robins_n justif_n p._n 80_o 110._o though_o i_o do_v not_o find_v the_o brownist_n so_o solicitous_o to_o distinguish_v between_o the_o church_n covenant_n and_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n as_o these_o our_o brethren_n do_v 12._o such_o as_o be_v admit_v into_o their_o church_n infant_n by_o the_o covenant_n of_o their_o parent_n be_v not_o yet_o permit_v to_o receive_v the_o lord_n supper_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n until_o they_o have_v first_o run_v through_o all_o the_o foresay_a course_n of_o this_o of_o what_o if_o upon_o examination_n they_o prove_v neither_o convince_o gracious_a as_o want_v expect_v evidence_n nor_o yet_o open_o scandalous_a as_o be_v overpowred_n with_o god_n ordinance_n and_o good_a education_n and_o government_n what_o shall_v become_v of_o they_o then_o admit_v as_o member_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n they_o shall_v not_o be_v and_o excommunicate_v i_o trow_v they_o can_v just_o be_v by_o this_o rule_n they_o must_v remain_v in_o a_o middle_a condition_n neither_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o without_o the_o church_n and_o what_o warrant_n have_v we_o for_o this_o public_a and_o private_a examination_n profession_n of_o faith_n declaration_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o conversion_n and_o personal_a vocal_a express_v enter_v into_o the_o same_o covenant_n as_o other_o of_o year_n have_v before_o they_o do_v and_o as_o if_o they_o have_v never_o be_v receive_v member_n before_o ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 20_o 21._o chap._n v._n of_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o first_o erect_v of_o a_o visible_a church_n 1._o 15._o 1._o the_o reader_n may_v perhaps_o think_v in_o read_v these_o two_o first_o article_n some_o fault_n to_o be_v in_o the_o collectour_n that_o so_o foul_a a_o contradiction_n shall_v be_v hold_v but_o if_o there_o be_v any_o fault_n it_o must_v be_v none_o but_o their_o own_o either_o in_o hold_v and_o practise_v thing_n in_o themselves_o so_o contradictory_n or_o else_o in_o report_v to_o we_o such_o thing_n as_o they_o neither_o hold_v nor_o practice_v but_o this_o contradiction_n will_v yet_o appear_v more_o foul_a when_o we_o consider_v what_o will_v after_o follow_v that_o they_o hold_v it_o not_o only_o lawful_a to_o do_v it_o without_o their_o consent_n but_o also_o sometime_o necessary_a to_o do_v it_o against_o their_o consent_n of_o which_o see_v chap._n 15._o any_o small_a number_n almost_o of_o person_n so_o fit_v as_o before_o they_o hold_v may_v lawful_o unite_v themselves_o into_o a_o church_n body_n by_o enter_v into_o the_o church_n covenant_n aforesaid_a and_o so_o may_v constitute_v themselves_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n of_o christ_n without_o any_o authoritative_a consent_n of_o the_o christian_a magistrate_n suppose_v there_o be_v one_o or_o of_o the_o neighbour_a church_n or_o their_o minister_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 43._o robin_n justif_n p._n 181_o 182._o 2._o yet_o a_o truth_n a_o the_o law_n doubtless_o be_v good_a as_o from_o the_o magistrate_n but_o how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o that_o opinion_n which_o too_o many_o of_o they_o among_o we_o that_o run_v the_o same_o church-course_n with_o these_o brethren_n hold_v that_o the_o magistrate_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o the_o first_o table_n unless_o the_o public_a peace_n be_v break_v he_o be_v to_o force_v no_o man_n against_o his_o conscience_n too_o or_o fro_o but_o leave_v every_o man_n to_o follow_v his_o own_o light_n and_o religion_n also_o as_o it_o be_v a_o agreement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o minister_n i_o the_o rather_o like_o it_o because_o it_o seem_v to_o amount_v to_o little_o less_o in_o substance_n then_o a_o compound_n presbytery_n set_v up_o among_o they_o the_o rather_o if_o we_o add_v what_o the_o same_o h.p._n tell_v we_o that_o they_o have_v also_o agree_v among_o themselves_o that_o no_o man_n shall_v preach_v or_o vent_v any_o new_a or_o uncouth_a tenant_n until_o he_o have_v first_o communicate_v they_o with_o the_o neighbour_a minister_n a_o very_a good_a canon_n especial_o for_o these_o time_n wherein_o man_n run_v a_o mad_n after_o novelty_n and_o nicety_n under_o the_o false_a pretence_n of_o a_o new_a light_n and_o new_a truth_n law_n be_v make_v in_o their_o general_a court_n civil_a that_o no_o church_n shall_v be_v there_o set_v up_o without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o neighbour_n church_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n yea_o as_o mr_n h.p._n inform_v we_o not_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o five_o or_o six_o of_o the_o neighbour_a church_n at_o the_o least_o 3._o the_o he_o the_o here_o be_v another_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n in_o act_n though_o not_o in_o rule_n if_o this_o be_v needful_a at_o the_o first_o erection_n of_o a_o church_n that_o each_o shall_v try_v and_o know_v other_o spirit_n why_o not_o also_o after_o at_o the_o admission_n of_o every_o member_n he_o to_o try_v and_o know_v their_o spirit_n as_o well_o as_o they_o he_o person_n intend_v to_o enter_v into_o church_n estate_n do_v before_o hand_n often_o meet_v private_o among_o themselves_o to_o be_v inward_o acquaint_v with_o each_o other_o spirit_n by_o confer_v pray_v together_o and_o mutual_o examine_v each_o other_o until_o they_o have_v approve_v themselves_o to_o one_o another_o conscience_n in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n which_o when_o they_o have_v thorough_o do_v in_o private_a than_o they_o agree_v together_o to_o enter_v into_o a_o church_n estate_n r.m._n to_o w.r._n ‑_o h.w._n to_o mr_n b._n 4._o which_o before_o they_o do_v notice_n be_v give_v thereof_o to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o neighbour_a church_n that_o so_o such_o as_o please_v may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o time_n and_o place_n thereunto_o appoint_v r.m._n to_o w.r._n ‑_o h.w._n to_o mr_n b._n ‑_o j.w._n to_o t.s._n 5._o the_o number_n wherewith_o they_o usual_o begin_v at_o the_o first_o constitution_n of_o every_o church_n be_v about_o 7.8_o or_o 9_o ibid._n 6._o notice_n be_v give_v the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n send_v their_o admission_n their_o here_o than_o church_n use_v messenger_n or_o deputy_n to_o represent_v themselves_o and_o to_o act_v in_o their_o room_n why_o not_o in_o a_o synod_n as_o well_o and_o if_o they_o may_v trust_v their_o power_n with_o their_o messenger_n for_o approve_v or_o disapprove_v whole_a church_n much_o more_o of_o particular_a member_n at_o their_o admission_n messenger_n or_o deputy_n to_o see_v how_o thing_n be_v carry_v and_o to_o give_v they_o advice_n direction_n approbation_n or_o disapprobation_n as_o they_o shall_v see_v cause_n ibid._n 7._o the_o day_n appoint_v be_v keep_v with_o fast_v and_o prayer_n and_o sometime_o if_o not_o always_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n which_o be_v perform_v by_o some_o of_o the_o person_n that_o now_o come_v to_o be_v combine_v into_o this_o church-societie_n in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o day_n each_o of_o those_o person_n now_o to_o be_v church_v if_o i_o may_v so_o say_v make_v public_a profession_n of_o his_o faith_n thereby_o show_v his_o knowledge_n and_o opinion_n in_o the_o ground_n and_o principle_n of_o religion_n and_o declare_v from_o point_n to_o point_v the_o work_n of_o god_n upon_o his_o soul_n in_o his_o conversion_n and_o all_o this_o in_o a_o extemporarie_a at_o least_o conceive_v speech_n i._n e._n not_o in_o any_o set_a form_n ibid._n 8._o which_o when_o the_o messenger_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o church_n have_v hear_v and_o consider_v if_o they_o be_v unsatisfied_a or_o any_o slander_n by_o they_o make_v their_o objection_n or_o propound_v further_a question_n as_o they_o think_v
fit_a until_o they_o be_v charity_n be_v it_o be_v a_o hard_a task_n to_o satisfy_v all_o comer_n touch_v these_o thing_n question_v and_o object_v what_o they_o please_v and_o hard_a for_o a_o man_n to_o be_v stay_v perhaps_o for_o some_o difference_n about_o church_n discipline_n or_o suppose_v some_o objection_n be_v make_v against_o his_o life_n it_o must_v here_o be_v present_o and_o open_o declare_v and_o scan_v before_o all_o the_o country_n this_o be_v little_a wisdom_n less_o charity_n satisfy_v if_o it_o may_v be_v ibid._n 9_o if_o in_o the_o end_n the_o say_a messenger_n be_v not_o satisfy_v than_o they_o or_o so_o many_o of_o they_o as_o concern_v who_o they_o be_v not_o satisfy_v either_o in_o point_n of_o knowledge_n or_o grace_n be_v forbid_v to_o enter_v into_o church_n estate_n and_o so_o remain_v still_o as_o before_z out_o of_o the_o pale_a of_o the_o church_n ibid._n 10._o if_o at_o length_n they_o be_v full_o satisfy_v and_o all_o doubt_n clear_v than_o the_o say_a person_n proceed_v to_o enter_v into_o church-covenant_n which_o be_v write_v one_o of_o they_o read_v and_o all_o of_o they_o subscribe_v it_o and_o so_o they_o be_v become_v a_o true_a hatch_v true_a if_o so_o much_o time_n and_o so_o many_o encumstance_n be_v needful_a to_o join_v 7._o or_o 8._o together_o into_o one_o church_n how_o much_o time_n will_v be_v requisite_a to_o join_v 3000._o together_o but_o our_o brethren_n will_v acknowledge_v the_o apostle_n go_v a_o short_a way_n to_o work_v discourse_v of_o cou._n p._n 29_o 30._o the_o reason_n whereof_o they_o render_v because_o the_o church_n be_v not_o then_o subject_a to_o so_o many_o hypocrite_n which_o be_v more_o than_o any_o man_n know_v when_o christ_n say_v many_o be_v call_v few_o choose_v many_o seek_v but_o few_o sinde_n beside_o this_o course_n be_v use_v by_o our_o brethren_n not_o to_o ordinary_a christian_n only_o but_o to_o the_o most_o godly_a and_o best_a approve_v i_o believe_v therefore_o it_o be_v rather_o 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of_o conscience_n as_o scruple_v some_o thing_n in_o their_o way_n yet_o for_o all_o this_o their_o infant_n shall_v not_o be_v admit_v to_o baptism_n as_o not_o be_v within_o but_o without_o the_o church_n mr_n m._n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la 61_o 62_o 63_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr to_o 32._o q._n p._n 20_o 21._o apol._n p._n 29._o chap._n viii_o of_o their_o dismiss_v of_o member_n from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o or_o otherwise_o 1._o no_o person_n once_o thus_o admit_v as_o aforesaid_a into_o any_o of_o their_o church_n aught_o to_o remove_v thence_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o say_a church_n first_o seek_v and_o obtain_v for_o if_o lie_n do_v they_o hold_v that_o he_o break_v covenant_n with_o god_n and_o the_o church_n and_o like_o ananias_n and_o sapphira_n lie_v against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 73._o apol._n p._n 39_o r.m._n to_o e.b._n p._n 6._o inasmuch_o as_o they_o conceive_v their_o convenant_n bind_v they_o not_o to_o depart_v 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church_n he_o will_v remove_v and_o consult_v with_o they_o about_o both_o ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 74._o apol._n p._n 20._o 3._o if_o upon_o examination_n they_o approve_v both_o of_o his_o reason_n why_o and_o of_o the_o place_n whither_o he_o will_v go_v than_o they_o consent_v and_o give_v he_o letter_n of_o dismission_n and_o recommendation_n to_o that_o other_o church_n they_o send_v he_o away_o with_o their_o prayer_n and_o blessing_n ibid._n 4._o if_o contrary_o they_o approve_v not_o either_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o they_o dissuade_v he_o from_o his_o purpose_n if_o they_o prevail_v nor_o they_o will_v not_o hold_v he_o by_o violence_n for_o that_o they_o can_v yet_o
they_o will_v neither_o give_v their_o &c_n their_o if_o this_o be_v so_o as_o the_o disciple_n say_v of_o marriage_n it_o be_v not_o good_a to_o touch_v this_o covenant_n a_o man_n may_v soon_o enter_v into_o this_o bond_n but_o be_v not_o so_o soon_o get_v free_a again_o these_o be_v hard_a condition_n he_o must_v discover_v all_o to_o a_o multitude_n many_o of_o which_o be_v no_o wise_a than_o they_o shall_v be_v who_o be_v to_o be_v h●s_a judge_n in_o their_o own_o cause_n and_o who_o can_v assure_v he_o of_o their_o judicious_a and_o unpartial_a deal_n it_o may_v be_v though_o his_o reason_n be_v never_o so_o sufficient_a yet_o they_o will_v not_o consent_v to_o his_o departure_n and_o if_o he_o depart_v without_o consent_n he_o go_v not_o only_o not_o commend_v but_o tacit_o accuse_v slander_v not_o only_o not_o blessed_v but_o virtual_o cast_v out_o and_o curse_v and_o to_o make_v up_o his_o misery_n if_o all_o courche_n be_v of_o their_o way_n for_o ever_o make_v uncapable_a of_o admission_n into_o any_o other_o church_n and_o so_o necessitate_v to_o live_v be_v and_z his_o all_o their_o day_n as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n without_o the_o pale_a of_o the_o church_n there_o be_v as_o it_o seem_v a_o tacit_a agreement_n among_o they_o to_o receive_v no_o member_n from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o unless_o they_o bring_v with_o they_o letter_n of_o dismission_n and_o recommendation_n yea_o a_o man_n that_o be_v once_o enter_v into_o this_o way_n be_v so_o rivet_v in_o it_o that_o he_o can_v hardly_o ever_o get_v out_o of_o it_o but_o in_o a_o sort_n be_v necessitate_v to_o continue_v therein_o though_o perhaps_o against_o his_o conscience_n see_v depart_n he_o can_v with_o leave_n unless_o they_o approve_v of_o the_o church_n to_o which_o he_o will_v go_v as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o reason_n why_o now_o they_o will_v not_o approve_v of_o any_o church_n that_o differ_v from_o themselves_o in_o church_n constitution_n discipline_n and_o government_n therefore_o he_o must_v either_o continue_v where_o he_o be_v or_o remove_v to_o some_o other_o church_n of_o the_o same_o way_n or_o live_v out_o of_o church_n estate_n like_o a_o heathen_a as_o aforesaid_a the_o best_a of_o all_o which_o choise_n may_v prove_v bad_a enough_o this_o so_o strict_a and_o hard_a tie_v of_o man_n together_o unless_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n must_v needs_o be_v a_o intolerable_a burden_n press_v and_o pinch_a man_n not_o only_o in_o their_o estate_n name_n and_o comfort_n but_o also_o in_o their_o conscience_n too_o sometime_o cause_v sharp_a contest_v and_o contention_n with_o yea_o perhaps_o deadly_a hatred_n of_o such_o with_o who_o they_o arc_n so_o force_v to_o continue_v in_o society_n against_o their_o mind_n or_o will_n at_o least_o and_o sometime_o violent_a rent_n and_o rupture_n when_o they_o be_v feign_v to_o break_v away_o from_o they_o by_o violence_n by_o who_o with_o good_a leave_n they_o can_v be_v 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otherwise_o they_o will_v ibid._n yea_o he_o shall_v depart_v little_o better_o than_o a_o excommunicate_a as_o a_o covenant-breaker_n with_o god_n and_o man_n and_o as_o one_o that_o be_v wise_a in_o his_o own_o conceit_n and_o refuse_v to_o hearken_v to_o counsel_n ibid._n chap._n ix_o of_o church-communion_n in_o general_a wherein_o it_o consist_v to_o who_o it_o do_v belong_v of_o corruption_n in_o it_o and_o separation_n from_o it_o 1._o they_o solicitous_o distinguish_v between_o church-communion_n and_o christian_n or_o religious_a communion_n this_o latter_a they_o hold_v general_o with_o all_o who_o they_o conceive_v to_o be_v true_a christian_n without_o reference_n to_o their_o church_n estate_n and_o whether_o they_o be_v in_o church_n estate_n or_o no_o therefore_o they_o will_v confer_v pray_v with_o they_o etc._n etc._n respect_n etc._n if_o by_o church_n be_v to_o be_v mean_v only_o such_o a_o particular_a body_n as_o be_v before_o by_o they_o define_v the_o distinction_n may_v the_o rather_o pass_v but_o forasmuch_o as_o the_o word_n church_n in_o scripture_n sometime_o extend_v itself_o to_o all_o or_o any_o believer_n on_o the_o face_n of_o the_o earth_n without_o respect_n have_v to_o any_o such_o congregationall_a union_n therefore_o church_n communion_n will_n and_o may_v extend_v itself_o to_o all_o communion_n with_o visible_a believer_n in_o all_o religious_a duty_n whatsoever_o for_o as_o there_o be_v a_o persecution_n of_o the_o church_n gal._n 1.13_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n act._n 12.5_o and_o a_o communion_n of_o saint_n without_o such_o a_o respect_n so_o a_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o religious_a duty_n without_o such_o a_o respect_n but_o the_o former_a they_o hold_v only_o with_o such_o as_o they_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v true_a church_n and_o with_o their_o church-member_n ans_fw-fr to_o 9_o pos_fw-la p._n 62_o 63._o apol._n p._n 28_o 34._o robin_n have_v a_o distinction_n not_o much_o unlike_a of_o 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