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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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will_v the_o distribute_v the_o sheep_n into_o twenty_o parcel_n though_o some_o be_v careful_a of_o their_o parcel_n excuse_v any_o from_o blame_n the_o distribution_n or_o division_n be_v the_o act_n of_o the_o shepherd_n according_a to_o his_o infrance_n not_o the_o act_n of_o the_o master_n if_o the_o catholic_a church_n be_v thus_o commit_v to_o officer_n than_o every_o officer_n will_v be_v unblamable_a for_o the_o wander_n of_o any_o one_o member_n of_o that_o church_n though_o their_o habitation_n be_v thousand_o of_o mile_n distant_a each_o from_o other_o but_o christ_n have_v commit_v only_o a_o particular_a church_n or_o flock_n of_o his_o sheep_n to_o the_o charge_n of_o any_o one_o of_o his_o officer_n and_o if_o other_o not_o of_o a_o man_n own_o flock_n do_v miscarry_v his_o not_o seek_v their_o reducement_n to_o the_o utmost_a of_o his_o ability_n and_o opportunity_n be_v a_o sin_n against_o charity_n but_o not_o against_o his_o office_n according_a to_o any_o gosple_n rule_n that_o yet_o we_o can_v find_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n be_v not_o rebaked_a for_o the_o miscarriage_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n nor_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n reprove_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o pergamus_n or_o thyatira_n or_o sardis_n revel_v 2_o and_o 3._o but_o every_o angel_n be_v reprove_v for_o the_o sin_n of_o that_o particular_a church_n which_o he_o be_v set_v over_o as_o to_o his_o instance_n of_o the_o german_a empire_n page_n 8._o we_o say_v it_o have_v a_o vast_a disparity_n in_o it_o to_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n for_o there_o be_v no_o act_n to_o be_v perform_v in_o the_o church_n to_o make_v a_o double_a relation_n necessary_a answerable_a to_o those_o in_o the_o empire_n if_o no_o emperor_n be_v to_o be_v choose_v or_o act_n of_o general_a concernment_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n as_o such_o to_o be_v exert_v those_o prince_n or_o elector_n will_v not_o sustain_v any_o such_o general_a relation_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n and_o there_o be_v no_o universal_a church-officer_n to_o be_v choose_v or_o any_o act_n of_o institute_v worship_n to_o be_v perform_v which_o be_v peculiar_a to_o a_o universal_a church_n as_o such_o hence_o the_o case_n be_v vast_o different_a and_o also_o it_o be_v very_o improbable_a that_o such_o a_o order_n shall_v be_v of_o christ_n appointment_n they_o have_v not_o one_o by_o systeme_n of_o law_n neither_o be_v these_o elector_n or_o prince_n entrust_v with_o a_o joint-power_n for_o the_o ordinary_a government_n of_o the_o whole_a but_o every_o free_a prince_n have_v power_n to_o make_v what_o law_n he_o will_v and_o if_o he_o will_v allow_v every_o congregational_a church_n as_o entire_a a_o power_n within_o itself_o as_o every_o of_o those_o prince_n have_v within_o his_o own_o territory_n we_o suppose_v no_o power_n beyond_o that_o will_v belong_v to_o any_o but_o christ_n himself_o ob._n the_o apostle_n be_v pastor_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n yet_o the_o work_n be_v divide_v among_o they_o and_o they_o undertake_v aspeciall_a relation_n to_o some_o particular_a part_n as_o peter_z to_o the_o jew_n and_o paul_n to_o the_o gentile_n james_n to_o jerusalem_n etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag_n 8._o ans_fw-fr 1._o the_o apostle_n be_v extraordinary_a officer_n our_o question_n be_v only_o about_o ordinary_a officer_n 2._o the_o apostle_n have_v immediate_a direction_n from_o the_o lord_n where_o to_o labour_v in_o the_o work_n of_o their_o office_n act._n 13._o 4._o act._n 16._o 9_o act._n 10._o ver_fw-la 19_o 20._o yea_o that_o commit_v of_o the_o jew_n to_o peter_n and_o of_o the_o gentile_n to_o paul_n seem_v to_o be_v by_o immediate_a ducture_n from_o the_o spirit_n gal_n 2._o ver_fw-la 7._o he_o that_o wrought_v effectual_o in_o peter_n to_o the_o apostleship_n of_o the_o circumcision_n the_o same_o be_v mighty_a in_o i_o towards_o the_o gentile_n the_o lord_n make_v such_o a_o division_n if_o it_o be_v one_o be_v sufficient_a to_o give_v they_o a_o dispensation_n for_o act_v in_o office-work_n elsewhere_o until_o fresh_a instruction_n come_v but_o ordinary_a officer_n have_v no_o such_o direction_n from_o the_o lord_n or_o any_o thing_n equivalent_a to_o they_o and_o so_o be_v oblige_v to_o perform_v act_n of_o office_n to_o all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n and_o sin_n if_o they_o do_v not_o according_a to_o he_o for_o they_o have_v no_o dispensation_n from_o the_o lord_n for_o act_v in_o any_o and_o without_o that_o they_o must_v act_v to_o the_o utmost_a bound_n of_o their_o relation_n 3._o apostle_n be_v not_o so_o limit_v and_o confine_v in_o their_o office_n unto_o those_o which_o especial_o be_v commit_v to_o they_o as_o ordinary_a officer_n be_v to_o their_o particular_a church_n the_o gospel_n of_o the_o uncircumcision_n be_v commit_v to_o paul_n and_o the_o gospel_n
church_n jus_fw-la diu._n min._n pag._n 139._o and_o mr._n poole_n say_v pag._n 25._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n and_o call_v the_o contrary_a a_o monstrous_a paradox_n pag._n 28._o and_o how_o he_o can_v deny_v it_o to_o be_v their_o assertion_n or_o free_v himself_o from_o self-contradiction_n in_o these_o expression_n we_o know_v not_o for_o what_o difference_n be_v there_o between_o be_v made_n a_o church-member_n by_o baptism_n and_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n and_o how_o can_v one_o be_v a_o church-member_n fore_o baptism_n and_o yet_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n especial_o if_o there_o be_v not_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n how_o can_v those_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n already_o be_v say_v without_o a_o loss_n of_o membership_n to_o be_v admit_v into_o it_o by_o any_o after_o act_v sure_o admission_n be_v of_o those_o who_o be_v without_o and_o no_o member_n not_o of_o those_o who_o be_v within_o and_o be_v church-member_n the_o scripture_n know_v no_o such_o thing_n as_o a_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_n either_o they_o be_v church-member_n or_o not_o if_o they_o be_v church-member_n as_o he_o confess_v they_o be_v before_o baptism_n than_o they_o be_v admit_v for_o membership_n presuppose_v admission_n 2._o as_o well_o may_v we_o say_v that_o man_n be_v officer_n by_o a_o church_n election_n before_o ordination_n and_o only_o the_o solemn_a admission_n into_o the_o office_n or_o rather_o exercise_v of_o it_o to_o be_v by_o ordination_n as_o he_o may_v assert_v a_o admission_n by_o baptism_n after_o membership_n and_o then_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o office_n be_v not_o in_o ordination_n 3._o if_o infant_n church-membership_a be_v as_o he_o say_v pag._n 24._o the_o ground_n of_o their_o baptism_n than_o they_o be_v visible_a church-member_n before_o their_o be_v baptise_a for_o the_o ground_n of_o a_o action_n must_v be_v visible_a before_o act_v and_o so_o their_o visible_a admission_n into_o the_o church_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n but_o before_o it_o and_o in_o convert_n profession_n of_o faith_n which_o he_o suppose_v they_o church-member_n by_o must_v first_o be_v visible_a and_o so_o their_o visible_a admission_n into_o the_o church_n be_v antecedaneous_a to_o and_o be_v not_o by_o their_o baptism_n and_o as_o public_a as_o their_o profession_n be_v so_o public_a be_v their_o visible_a church-membership_a or_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n before_o baptism_n as_o to_o what_o follow_v pag._n 24._o 25._o we_o former_o do_v and_o still_o do_v deny_v that_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o juridical_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n for_o this_o see_v our_o answer_n to_o dr._n collings_n epistle_n object_n if_o he_o be_v not_o juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n than_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n mr._n poole_n pag._n 24._o answ_n it_o will_v not_o follow_v for_o that_o sin_n which_o make_v the_o ejection_n just_a will_v make_v another_o church_n admission_n unjust_a yet_o mens_fw-la incapacity_n to_o be_v receive_v by_o other_o church_n do_v not_o arise_v from_o their_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o those_o church_n but_o from_o the_o want_n of_o such_o qualification_n as_o be_v perquisite_a to_o admission_n into_o church-fellowship_n he_o grant_v p._n 25._o that_o when_o a_o minister_n be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o office_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n by_o deposition_n he_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o officer_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n whence_o we_o infer_v that_o if_o he_o repent_v and_o become_v a_o officer_n again_o he_o must_v have_v a_o new_a ordination_n or_o else_o he_o may_v of_o no_o officer_n become_v a_o officer_n without_o ordination_n and_o so_o ordination_n be_v not_o essential_a to_o office_n that_o which_o follow_v pag._n 25._o be_v but_o a_o repetition_n of_o what_o he_o have_v say_v and_o be_v answer_v before_o that_o such_o as_o be_v convert_v from_o heathenism_n may_v join_v as_o member_n to_o some_o church_n and_o so_o be_v baptize_v we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 289._o he_o repli_v nothing_o to_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o yet_o charge_v we_o for_o obtrude_a uncouth_a notion_n upon_o the_o world_n without_o evident_a proof_n etc._n etc._n and_o he_o that_o say_v pag._n 24._o they_o be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n and_o who_o make_v so_o little_a a_o matter_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v not_o stumble_v at_o this_o notion_n and_o what_o be_v say_v to_o show_v that_o admission_n be_v not_o by_o baptism_n will_v not_o be_v far_o from_o a_o proof_n of_o it_o our_o argument_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 292._o plain_o show_v that_o their_o assertion_n run_v they_o upon_o anabaptism_n mr._n poole_n pag._n 26._o 27._o give_v a_o double_a reason_n against_o it_o 1._o that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o church-member_n though_o a_o disease_a member_n 2_o thes_n 3._o etc._n etc._n 2._o though_o his_o baptism_n cease_v at_o present_a actual_o and_o real_o as_o to_o all_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o so_o cease_v that_o while_n he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v and_o readmit_v himself_o to_o the_o church_n he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n forasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n and_o the_o church_n accept_v of_o it_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o anabaptism_n unavoidable_o follow_v upon_o their_o assertion_n thus_o he_o that_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n his_o baptism_n cease_v say_v they_o jus_n divin_n min._n pag._n 146._o but_o he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a cease_v say_v they_o to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o they_o tell_v we_o excommunication_n eject_v out_o of_o that_o church_n jus_n divin_n min._n pag._n 139._o ergo_fw-la he_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a his_o baptism_n cease_v ergo_fw-la if_o he_o be_v readmit_v he_o must_v be_v rebaptise_v or_o else_o be_v in_o the_o church_n unbaptise_v sure_o mr._n poole_n will_v not_o say_v that_o one_o may_v be_v eject_v out_o of_o and_o yet_o remain_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n for_o it_o be_v a_o contradiction_n to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v out_o of_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o church_n at_o the_o same_o time_n and_o contrary_a to_o 1_o corin._n 5._o 12._o which_o prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v without_o be_v not_o within_o yet_o he_o have_v no_o other_o way_n to_o save_v the_o london_n minister_n from_o the_o dint_n of_o the_o forego_n conclusion_n to_o help_v they_o out_o of_o this_o labyrinth_n mr._n poole_n tell_v we_o that_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v a_o church-member_n still_o but_o this_o be_v not_o to_o defend_v but_o to_o contradict_v they_o who_o cause_n he_o undertake_v to_o to_o plead_v for_o they_o tell_v we_o a_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v eject_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o mr._n poole_n say_v he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n still_o this_o therefore_o may_v suffice_v for_o the_o defence_n of_o what_o we_o have_v say_v but_o we_o shall_v add_v a_o few_o word_n 2._o it_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o many_o that_o the_o withdraw_v mention_v 2_o thes_n 3._o ver_fw-la 6._o 14._o vast_o differ_v from_o excommunication_n because_o after_o the_o one_o a_o man_n be_v to_o be_v deem_v as_o a_o brother_n and_o after_o the_o other_o he_o be_v to_o be_v account_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n mat._n 18._o ver_fw-la 17._o and_o if_o so_o this_o be_v no_o proof_n that_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v church-member_n see_v the_o text_n speak_v nothing_o of_o excommunication_n but_o only_o of_o withdraw_v 3._o we_o observe_v his_o halt_n here_o he_o do_v not_o say_v a_o excommunicate_a person_n always_o but_o ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n as_o if_o excommunication_n do_v sometime_o make_v a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o church-member_n but_o ordinary_o not_o which_o there_o be_v no_o syllable_n in_o scripture_n for_o and_o much_o against_o it_o mat._n 18_o v._n 17._o excommunicate_a person_n be_v to_o be_v deem_v as_o heathen_n and_o publican_n ergo_fw-la not_o as_o church-member_n that_o such_o as_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n to_o be_v the_o messiah_n or_o renounce_v some_o such_o grand_a article_n of_o faith_n shall_v still_o be_v a_o church-member_n be_v strange_a doctrine_n yet_o this_o must_v be_v or_o else_o his_o argument_n pag._n 26._o be_v nought_o for_o it_o may_v be_v say_v he_o who_o be_v under_o a_o church_n
ordinance_n appoint_v for_o his_o good_a be_v according_a to_o mr._n poole_n a_o church-member_n but_o he_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v under_o a_o church-ordinance_n for_o his_o good_a ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n he_o who_o be_v excomunicate_v for_o blasphemy_n deny_v christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o church-member_n and_o that_o the_o same_o ordinance_n of_o excommunication_n do_v pass_v upon_o some_o and_o cut_v they_o off_o from_o church-membership_a and_o pass_v upon_o other_o and_o leave_v they_o member_n still_o let_v he_o prove_v 4._o neither_o they_o in_o their_o jus_fw-la divin_n min._n nor_o we_o in_o our_o former_a book_n do_v speak_v of_o the_o cease_n of_o baptism_n as_o to_o the_o actual_a privilege_n of_o it_o or_o as_o to_o man_n account_n only_o or_o chief_o but_o about_o the_o cease_n of_o the_o water_n baptism_n itself_o and_o therefore_o what_o mr._n pool_n s●ith_o p._n 27._o be_v altogether_o beside_o the_o question_n neither_o do_v his_o instance_n of_o circumcision_n help_v he_o for_o if_o any_o turn_v heathen_a or_o idolater_n and_o renounce_v his_o circumcision_n yet_o he_o remain_v a_o circumcise_a person_n and_o his_o circumcision_n may_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o he_o though_o he_o be_v to_o be_v repute_v as_o a_o heathen_a while_o such_o and_o so_o we_o apprehend_v though_o a_o baptize_v person_n cease_v by_o excommunication_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o any_o visible_a church_n yet_o this_o baptism_n cease_v not_o but_o if_o it_o do_v real_o cease_v as_o they_o say_v it_o do_v rebaptise_v will_v necessary_o be_v infer_v 5._o if_o baptism_n itself_o about_o which_o the_o question_n be_v do_v cease_v upon_o the_o cessation_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o upon_o the_o person_n repentance_n the_o lord_n shall_v impute_v his_o former_a baptism_n to_o he_o be_v such_o a_o notion_n as_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n in_o scripture_n there_o be_v ne_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o such_o thing_n 6._o if_o a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n shall_v make_v his_o baptism_n cease_v upon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o as_o they_o assert_v then_o a_o pari_fw-la a_o man_n cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n by_o excommunication_n or_o otherwise_o will_v make_v his_o baptism_n ceasesupon_o its_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o that_o &_o so_o rebaptise_v must_v follow_v upon_o readmission_n so_o that_o this_o fall_v heavy_a upon_o their_o principle_n but_o it_o touch_v not_o we_o because_o we_o deny_v baptism_n to_o be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o an●_n church_n and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 27._o he_o say_v pag._n 28._o we_o grant_v that_o baptism_n be_v a_o sign_n of_o a_o man_n admission_n to_o the_o church_n reply_n he_o much_o mistake_v we_o for_o we_o do_v not_o grant_v that_o its_o sacramental_a use_n be_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n but_o in_o regard_n church-member-ship_n be_v pre-required_n unto_o baptism_n hence_o as_o thing_n consequential_a be_v sign_n of_o what_o be_v antecedent_n and_o fruit_n a_o sign_n of_o a_o tree_n so_o baptism_n if_o orderly_o administer_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o admission_n into_o a_o church_n we_o grant_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n of_o one_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n he_o ask_v pag._n 28._o what_o be_v a_o church_n but_o a_o company_n of_o man_n profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n reply_n 1._o we_o speak_v only_o of_o a_o subsequent_a sign_n which_o presupposech_v his_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o church_n and_o be_v engage_v for_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n 2._o a_o company_n of_o unbaptised_a person_n may_v profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n ergo_fw-la according_a to_o mr._n pool_n they_o be_v a_o church_n and_o then_o baptism_n can_v be_v the_o door_n of_o admission_n into_o the_o church_n we_o say_v baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n by_o which_o we_o intend_v only_o this_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v a_o man_n into_o any_o church_n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28_o call_v this_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n which_o shall_v not_o have_v be_v dictate_v without_o any_o proof_n etc._n etc._n reply_n we_o have_v not_o mere_o dictate_v it_o but_o have_v give_v clear_a proof_n for_o it_o preacher_n send_v pag._n 284._o 286._o 292_o 293._o himself_n grant_v that_o both_o infant_n and_o otner_n be_v church-member_n inchoate_v before_o baptism_n pag._n 24._o church-membership_a be_v a_o relation_n and_o as_o it_o be_v gross_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o a_o man_n be_v a_o father_n or_o master_n etc._n etc._n inchoate_n but_o not_o a_o complete_a father_n or_o master_n so_o its_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o one_o be_v enchoate_n only_o a_o church-member_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v admit_v not_o by_o but_o before_o baptism_n but_o that_o baptism_n do_v not_o make_v man_n member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v large_o prove_v in_o the_o answer_n of_o new-england_n elder_n to_o the_o 32._o question_n pag._n 12_o to_o 20._o ob._n 1._o we_o be_v all_o baptize_v into_o one_o body_n 1_o corin._n 12._o 13._o by_o which_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o baptism_n give_v a_o man_n relation_n to_o some_o body_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 28._o ans_fw-fr the_o whole_a stress_n of_o this_o argument_n depend_v upon_o translate_n the_o preposition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d into_o whereas_o it_o be_v frequent_o use_v to_o signify_v in_o be_v mat._n 2._o ver_fw-la 23._o he_o come_v and_o dwell_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o a_o city_n etc._n etc._n so_o 1_o peter_n 5._o 12._o act_n 2._o 27._o luke_n 11._o 7._o mark_v 1._o v._o 9_o be_v baptize_v of_o john_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o jordan_n and_o hence_o v._o 5._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o river_n jordan_n that_o which_o be_v express_v by_o i●_n in_o one_o verse_n be_v express_v by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o other_o all_o which_o clear_o show_v that_o no_o argument_n can_v be_v ground_v upon_o its_o signify_v into_o and_o if_o it_o be_v render_v in_o as_o often_o it_o be_v in_o other_o text_n than_o his_o argument_n come_v to_o nothing_o whether_o it_o be_v the_o visible_a or_o invisible_a church_n that_o be_v there_o intend_a for_o it_o run_v thus_o by_o one_o spirit_n we_o be_v all_o baptize_v in_o one_o body_n &_o then_o they_o be_v first_o in_o that_o body_n &_o baptize_v after_o &_o so_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o door_n of_o admission_n or_o do_v not_o give_v relation_n to_o that_o body_n 2._o a_o antecedent_n entrance_n into_o a_o relation_n be_v usual_o express_v by_o a_o subsequent_a adjunct_n of_o that_o relation_n as_o a_o entrance_n into_o kingly_a government_n be_v express_v by_o coronation_n and_o gen._n 45._o 10._o the_o sceptre_n shall_v not_o depart_v etc._n etc._n i._n c._n there_o shall_v be_v one_o to_o bear_v the_o sceptre_n there_o become_v governor_n be_v denote_v by_o a_o sceptre_n which_o be_v a_o subsequent_a sign_n of_o government_n so_o if_o 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v into_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v only_o a_o adjunct_n privilege_n of_o church-membership_a and_o not_o that_o which_o make_v to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o body_n or_o church_n 3._o there_o be_v different_a gift_n and_o grace_n in_o the_o member_n of_o the_o mystical_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o these_o can_v prove_v it_o a_o organical_a political_a body_n yet_o what_o do_v the_o apostle_n say_v more_o of_o this_o one_o body_n but_o whatever_o the_o body_n be_v the_o relation_n thereto_o be_v not_o prove_v to_o be_v by_o baptism_n as_o mr._n cartwright_n observe_v on_o gal._n 3._o 27._o where_o we_o be_v say_v to_o put_v on_o christ_n by_o baptism_n it_o be_v the_o usual_a phrase_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o give_v that_o unto_o the_o sarcrament_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o the_o thing_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n so_o here_o ob._n 2._o that_o which_o make_v a_o man_n visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n that_o make_v he_o visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n but_o baptism_n make_v a_o man_n visible_o to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n ergo_fw-la answ_n both_o proposition_n be_v false_a 1._o his_o major_n be_v untrue_a because_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o christ_n must_v precede_v or_o go_v before_o a_o visible_a relation_n to_o the_o church_n for_o none_o but_o visible_a saint_n or_o believer_n be_v to_o be_v admit_v into_o church_n relation_n act_v 2._o v._o 47._o they_o be_v save_v once_o i._n e._n
gift_v person_n in_o the_o work_n of_o preach_v and_o this_o show_v that_o neither_o his_o necessitas_fw-la praecepti_fw-la nor_o necessitas_fw-la medii_fw-la can_v weaken_v the_o force_n of_o this_o argument_n we_o be_v at_o as_o great_a a_o loss_n to_o find_v any_o ordination_n of_o a_o ordinary_a officer_n without_o a_o precedent_a election_n by_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o he_o be_v to_o find_v it_o before_o the_o ordination_n of_o paul_n barnabas_n and_o timothy_n who_o be_v extraordinary_o or_o immediate_o call_v to_o office_n and_o so_o need_v not_o such_o election_n ob._n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o in_o such_o case_n of_o necessity_n they_o may_v be_v say_v to_o preach_v by_o extraordinary_a authority_n which_o the_o word_n of_o the_o lord_n have_v give_v they_o which_o may_v be_v call_v a_o mission_n and_o they_o may_v be_v officer_n as_o to_o that_o time_n and_o state_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v but_o in_o another_o state_n of_o the_o church_n ordination_n be_v essential_a to_o a_o ordinary_a minister_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 63._o 64._o answ_n here_o he_o have_v find_v out_o a_o mission_n by_o the_o word_n which_o be_v not_o by_o the_o church_n command_v elect_v or_o ordain_v and_o so_o either_o his_o objection_n or_o else_o his_o argument_n pag._n 112._o or_o both_o must_v needs_o be_v naught_o and_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o self_n contradiction_n let_v his_o word_n be_v compare_v those_o who_o preach_v in_o such_o casesof_n necessity_n where_o people_n can_v have_v no_o ordain_v minister_n to_o hear_v may_v be_v say_v to_o preachby_v a_o extraordinary_a authority_n which_o the_o word_n of_o that_o god_n reveal_v will_n in_o his_o word_n be_v call_v send_v as_o his_o word_n be_v now_o write_v be_v of_o the_o lord_n have_v in_o such_o case_n give_v they_o which_o may_v be_v call_v a_o mission_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 63._o not_o prove_v nor_o can_v be_v prove_v vi_n revind_n pag._n 112._o he_o assert_v pag._n 63_o a_o mission_n by_o the_o word_n and_o deny_v pag._n 112._o that_o any_o such_o mission_n can_v be_v prove_v his_o officer_n in_o case_n of_o necessity_n have_v no_o mission_n either_o mediate_o ●or_a immediate_o by_o any_o of_o the_o way_n he_o mention_v ergo_fw-la not_o at_o all_o thus_o may_v we_o urge_v his_o argument_n against_o himself_o 2._o he_o have_v give_v no_o proof_n for_o his_o extraordinary_a office_n make_v mission_n in_o such_o case_n of_o necessity_n and_o where_o nothing_o be_v prove_v nothing_o need_v be_v answer_v 3._o if_o there_o be_v such_o extraordinary_a officer_n by_o necessity_n then_o 1._o they_o must_v be_v great_a than_o ordain_v once_o for_o extraordinary_a officer_n be_v great_a than_o ordinary_a 2._o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v ordain_v afterward_o though_o the_o church_n come_v into_o a_o other_o state_n or_o else_o ordination_n be_v not_o the_o constitute_a office-making_a act_n for_o say_v he_o they_o be_v officer_n before_o 3._o they_o must_v be_v either_o apostle_n evangelist_n or_o prophet_n and_o these_o he_o conclude_v to_o be_v cease_v or_o else_o they_o be_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n for_o the_o gospel_n ow_v no_o other_o preach_v officer_n but_o those_o aforemention_v and_o that_o ordinary_a officer_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n shall_v be_v make_v by_o a_o extraordinary_a call_n will_v hardly_o be_v prove_v or_o that_o such_o ordinary_a office_n can_v be_v conw_v without_o ordination_n if_o that_o in_o ordinary_a case_n be_v essential_a to_o such_o office_n we_o suppose_v can_v never_o be_v prove_v for_o it_o be_v as_o much_o as_o to_o say_v such_o office_n have_v a_o be_v without_o that_o which_o give_v be_v to_o they_o a_o thing_n may_v have_v a_o be_v without_o some_o necessary_a accident_n but_o that_o there_o can_v be_v any_o case_n so_o extraordinary_a as_o a_o thing_n shall_v have_v a_o be_v without_o that_o which_o be_v essencial_a to_o it_o we_o find_v not_o arg._n 5._o our_o five_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o gospel_n rule_v about_o prophesy_v all_o that_o be_v prophet_n way_n ordinary_o and_o public_o preach_v 1_o corin._n 14._o v._n 23._o 24._o 29._o 31._o dr._n collings_n say_v vind._n revind_n pag._n 64._o not_o such_o gift_a man_n as_o now_o live_v be_v prophet_n to_o prove_v our_o minor_a that_o some_o man_n i._n e._n now_o live_v who_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n be_v prophet_n we_o lie_v down_o three_o proposition_n 1._o that_o prophecy_n be_v a_o gift_n not_o a_o office_n 2._o that_o prophesy_v be_v a_o gift_n still_o continue_v 3._o that_o some_o man_n who_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n have_v that_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n preacher_n sent._n pag._n 90._o dr._n collings_n pag._n 65._o repeat_v three_o of_o our_o argument_n and_o tell_v the_o reader_n that_o we_o bring_v they_o to_o prove_v that_o prophecy_n be_v a_o gift_n not_o a_o office_n and_o cry_v out_o of_o a_o pitiful_a non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n whereas_o we_o use_v those_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o last_o position_n which_o be_v about_o the_o unnecessarinesse_a of_o ordination_n for_o prophet_n thus_o be_v we_o mispresented_n as_o if_o we_o bring_v argument_n to_o prove_v one_o proposition_n which_o we_o use_v to_o prove_v a_o other_o and_o whether_o great_a wrong_n and_o injury_n be_v not_o offer_v to_o we_o and_o the_o reader_n by_o such_o deal_n let_v any_o wise_a man_n judge_v we_o neither_o argue_v in_o this_o place_n against_o their_o be_v extraordinary_a or_o ordinary_a officer_n nor_o against_o their_o be_v furnish_v with_o extraordinary_a gift_n other_o medium_n we_o use_v elsewhere_o that_o way_n and_o therefore_o his_o pitiful_a non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la be_v of_o his_o own_o make_n but_o the_o main_a question_n be_v about_o preach_v without_o ordination_n and_o so_o we_o prove_v preacher_n sent._n pag._n 90._o that_o ordination_n be_v not_o necessary_a for_o prophet_n which_o here_o he_o grane_v we_o know_v not_o which_o part_n of_o our_o argument_n will_v be_v deny_v and_o therefore_o leave_v no_o part_n unprove_v whereas_o he_o enquire_v vind._n p._n 65._o who_o ever_o say_v these_o prophet_n be_v ordinary_a officer_n we_o answer_n mr._n rutherford_n in_o his_o due_a right_n of_o presbyt_fw-la declare_v it_o to_o be_v his_o judgement_n that_o this_o be_v a_o pattern_n of_o a_o college_n of_o ordinary_a prophet_n but_o neither_o of_o the_o argument_n which_o he_o be_v reply_v to_o speak_v one_o word_n about_o their_o be_v ordinary_a officer_n and_o therefore_o we_o wonder_v how_o that_o question_n shall_v be_v start_v here_o prop._n 1._o the_o prophesy_v speak_v of_o 1_o cor._n 14._o be_v a_o gift_n not_o a_o office_n 1._o because_o all_o who_o have_v the_o gift_n of_o pprophecy_n be_v prophet_n and_o they_o must_v have_v the_o gift_n before_o they_o can_v be_v make_v prophet_n by_o office_n 2._o because_o this_o prophesy_a aught_o in_o duty_n and_o might_n in_o faith_n be_v covet_v by_o every_o man_n who_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n at_o corinth_n and_o so_o of_o any_o other_o church_n whereas_o office_n may_v not_o be_v so_o covet_v by_o every_o man_n who_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n 1._o it_o be_v not_o promise_v 2_o not_o possible_a to_o be_v obtain_v etc._n etc._n preach_v sent._n p._n 91._o 92._o obj._n dr._n collings_n pag._n 66._o 67._o etc._n etc._n say_v 1._o that_o god_n in_o the_o same_o moment_n clothe_v they_o with_o a_o extraordinary_a authority_n and_o furnish_v they_o with_o a_o extraordinary_a gift_n so_o he_o do_v jeremy_n amos_n etc._n etc._n 2._o that_o the_o same_o argument_n will_v prove_v it_o be_v no_o gift_n except_o a_o promise_n can_v be_v show_v thereof_o 3._o thing_n not_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n shall_v be_v pray_v for_o with_o submission_n to_o god_n will_v etc._n etc._n 4._o they_o can_v be_v officer_n to_o that_o church_n but_o may_v be_v in_o time_n officer_n to_o other_o church_n there_o be_v no_o impossibility_n in_o this_o at_o all_o yea_o he_o say_v they_o ought_v to_o labour_v after_o such_o a_o perfection_n beside_o universal_a holiness_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v labour_v for_o yet_o it_o be_v not_o promise_v nor_o can_v be_v attain_v etc._n etc._n 5._o all_o do_v not_o include_v every_o individual_a always_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o no_o ordinary_a officer_n can_v be_v orderly_o make_v unless_o those_o gift_n which_o furnish_v for_o the_o office_n be_v first_o find_v in_o he_o act._n 6._o 3._o 1_o tim._n 3._o and_o that_o not_o extraordinary_a but_o ordinary_a prophet_n be_v intend_v 1_o cor._n 14._o we_o have_v large_o prove_v preach_v sent._n pag._n 100_o 101._o 102._o and_o so_o our_o argument_n be_v valid_a though_o extraordinary_a officer_n as_o jeremy_n and_o amos_n shall_v have_v the_o gift_n and_o office_n together_o yet_o there_o the_o gift_n in_o order_n of_o nature_n at_o least_o do_v precede_v
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that_o pprophecy_n be_v no_o sign_n to_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o will_v thou_o say_v that_o prophecy_n may_v not_o be_v for_o the_o conversion_n of_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o do_v not_o the_o apostle_n prove_v it_o may_v v._o 24._o 25_o and_o do_v not_o dr._n collings_n confess_v it_o when_o the_o unbeliever_n go_v into_o the_o church_n assembly_n pag._n 85._o if_o he_o suppose_v that_o we_o grant_v prophesy_v to_o be_v a_o sign_n but_o not_o for_o their_o conversion_n he_o be_v much_o mistake_v he_o may_v see_v it_o deny_v preacher_n sent._n p._n 102._o neither_o be_v there_o a_o syllable_n that_o way_n pag._n 115._o to_o which_o he_o be_v now_o reply_v we_o may_v conclude_v from_o his_o word_n and_o v._o 22._o that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o sign_n at_o all_o for_o that_o verse_n plain_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v a_o sign_n to_o unbeliever_n and_o he_o say_v pag._n 84._o if_o it_o be_v a_o sign_n at_o all_o it_o must_v be_v for_o they_o who_o believe_v not_o and_o this_o confirm_v our_o argument_n pag._n 102._o and_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n whether_o dr._n collings_n have_v not_o run_v into_o a_o self-contradiction_n in_o the_o follow_a expression_n of_o the_o same_o book_n 1._o the_o antithesis_fw-la 1_o cor._n 14._o 22._o he_o say_v lie_v here_o that_o tongue_n be_v for_o a_o sign_n to_o heathen_n that_o believe_v not_o but_o prophesy_v be_v a_o sign_n only_o for_o such_o as_o believe_v viz_o it_o be_v a_o act_n only_o to_o to_o be_v perform_v within_o the_o 1._o it_o be_v plain_a that_o if_o prophesy_v be_v for_o any_o sign_n it_o must_v be_v for_o unbeliever_n for_o believer_n need_v no_o sign_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 84._o now_o that_o prophecy_n shall_v be_v for_o their_o i._n e._n unbeliever_n pale_a of_o the_o churth_n this_o text_n only_o prove_v that_o pprophecy_n be_v no_o sign_n to_o they_o that_o believe_v not_o vind._n revind_n pag._n 73._o conversion_n and_o not_o a_o sign_n for_o it_o seem_v very_o harsh_a vind._n revind_n pag._n 85._o 2._o 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23._o 24._o to_o tie_v up_o from_o go_v out_o to_o any_o other_o church_n assembly_n as_o from_o go_v out_o to_o unbeliever_n yea_o be_v there_o not_o as_o much_o 1_o cor._n 11_o 17._o 18._o 20._o 33._o to_o tie_v up_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o the_o assembly_n of_o the_o church_n in_o one_o place_n as_o there_o be_v 1_o cor._n 14._o ver_fw-la 23._o 24._o to_o confine_v pprophecy_n to_o it_o yet_o will_v he_o not_o blame_v we_o if_o we_o shall_v say_v a_o pastor_n may_v administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o believer_n of_o other_o church_n when_o they_o come_v into_o the_o church_n assembly_n but_o must_v not_o go_v out_o to_o they_o the_o assembly_n speak_v of_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n to_o member_n of_o another_o church_n tell_v we_o sure_o he_o i._n e._n a_o elder_a may_v as_o well_o do_v it_o when_o he_o go_v to_o they_o as_o when_o they_o come_v to_o he_o for_o it_o answ_n of_o the_o assem_fw-la pag._n 7._o and_o may_v not_o we_o say_v that_o the_o prophet_n may_v go_v 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the_o rule_v of_o more_o than_o he_o can_v teach_v or_o o●_n more_o than_o a_o particular_a church_n we_o can_v find_v no_o institution_n of_o christ_n for_o any_o such_o thing_n and_o without_o that_o edification_n will_v not_o be_v a_o rule_n sufficient_a to_o warrant_v the_o act_n in_o church-administrations_a when_o every_o thing_n may_v lawful_o be_v do_v that_o be_v possible_a to_o be_v do_v than_o this_o argue_v will_v be_v good_a 2._o it_o be_v not_o prove_v that_o any_o act_n of_o rule_n or_o government_n be_v put_v forth_o act._n 15._o and_o there_o be_v no_o syllable_n of_o proof_n that_o the_o apostle_n power_n of_o government_n be_v more_o extensive_a than_o their_o teach_a power_n so_o much_o as_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o he_o proceed_v to_o lay_v down_o some_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o minister_n be_v officer_n and_o act_n as_o officer_n to_o more_o than_o their_o own_o particular_a church_n argu._n 1._o if_o minister_n be_v officer_n and_o act_n as_o 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pag._n 28._o viz._n that_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v or_o make_v a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n for_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n before_o and_o so_o be_v not_o admit_v into_o that_o by_o their_o baptism_n and_o if_o no_o gospel_n church_n be_v at_o this_o time_n erect_v than_o their_o baptism_n do_v not_o admit_v they_o into_o any_o church_n at_o all_o 2._o many_o do_v visible_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o christ_n before_o the_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n or_o have_v that_o mission_n mat._n 28._o therefore_o either_o his_o argument_n p._n 29._o must_v be_v false_a or_o else_o this_o his_o position_n p._n 10._o that_o apostle_n be_v constitute_v officer_n before_o the_o visible_a gospel_n church_n be_v erect_v can_v be_v true_a of_o which_o he_o say_v it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n and_o undeniable_a 3._o if_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v preserve_v in_o the_o apostle_n in_o case_n all_o convert_v 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ourselves_o into_o the_o gulf_n of_o annabaptisme_n and_o he_o doubt_v not_o but_o we_o will_v retract_v it_o etc._n etc._n and_o all_o this_o because_o we_o say_v if_o they_o perform_v these_o act_n to_o any_o not_o of_o their_o own_o congregation_n they_o do_v not_o act_v as_o past_a over_o as_o officer_n to_o they_o therein_o ans_fw-fr we_o see_v no_o ground_n to_o retract_v what_o we_o have_v say_v in_o this_o matter_n and_o we_o think_v any_o unprejudiced_a reader_n who_o shall_v view_v our_o whole_a answer_n to_o their_o objection_n preach_v sent._n pag._n 278_o 279_o 280._o will_v apprehend_v that_o there_o be_v more_o strength_n in_o mr._n pool_n flourish_v of_o word_n to_o dazzle_v the_o eye_n of_o the_o weak_a then_o of_o argument_n to_o convince_v the_o judicious_a that_o we_o be_v in_o a_o error_n to_o clear_v the_o case_n 1._o we_o profess_v that_o it_o be_v when_o we_o write_v our_o former_a book_n and_o still_o be_v our_o judgement_n that_o the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n be_v a_o act_n which_o can_v be_v do_v but_o by_o a_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n none_o but_o a_o officer_n may_v perform_v this_o act_n 2._o yet_o we_o conceive_v a_o officer_n may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n which_o be_v a_o common_a church_n privilege_n unto_o member_n of_o other_o church_n without_o be_v a_o officer_n over_o they_o for_o if_o any_o such_o relation_n as_o be_v between_o pastor_n and_o the_o member_n of_o his_o flock_n do_v arise_v upon_o that_o act_n than_o a_o obligation_n unto_o the_o mutual_a duty_n of_o the_o relation_n must_v follow_v also_o else_o all_o in_o a_o relation_n be_v not_o bind_v to_o the_o duty_n of_o it_o and_o who_o will_v say_v that_o pastor_n be_v to_o watch_v over_o the_o member_n of_o other_o church_n or_o that_o the_o lord_n have_v make_v they_o overseer_n of_o they_o or_o that_o such_o member_n be_v to_o aford_v maintenance_n etc._n etc._n to_o such_o pastor_n and_o if_o they_o be_v no_o officer_n over_o they_o they_o 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insinuate_v p._n 22._o that_o their_o argument_n be_v against_o our_o practice_n may_v easy_o be_v see_v in_o their_o book_n not_o against_o the_o assertion_n but_o as_o suppose_v though_o unground_o to_o be_v contradict_v by_o our_o practice_n and_o this_o be_v enough_o to_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 20._o 21._o 22._o and_o may_v clear_o vindicate_v we_o from_o his_o aspersion_n for_o anabaptism_n he_o repli_v nothing_o to_o what_o we_o have_v say_v preacher_n send_v pag._n 281._o where_o we_o have_v clear_o answer_v their_o three_o particular_a in_o the_o several_a branch_n and_o have_v prove_v against_o they_o that_o minister_n be_v call_v elder_n of_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n there_o be_v seven_o consequence_n which_o they_o say_v jus_fw-la divin_n min._n pag._n 140._o will_v follow_v this_o assertion_n to_o our_o exception_n against_o the_o first_o and_o second_o of_o these_o mr._n poole_n answer_v little_a or_o nothing_o what_o he_o say_v p._n 23._o be_v but_o a_o 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etc._n the_o apostle_n be_v set_v in_o corinth_n though_o not_o limit_v or_o confine_v to_o that_o church_n all_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o argument_n from_o 1_o cor._n 12._o 28._o depend_v upon_o the_o apostle_n speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n have_v it_o be_v say_v god_n have_v set_v in_o the_o churches_n etc._n etc._n there_o can_v have_v be_v no_o shadow_n of_o a_o argument_n hence_o for_o their_o be_v officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n and_o see_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n ver_fw-la 12._o 14._o 17._o etc._n etc._n he_o speak_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o body_n the_o body_n and_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o yet_o all_o natural_a body_n do_v not_o make_v one_o body_n and_o ver_fw-la 18._o god_n set_v the_o member_n in_o the_o body_n etc._n etc._n yet_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_n body_n how_o can_v his_o speak_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n the_o church_n for_o 28._o and_o that_o in_o the_o application_n of_o the_o same_o similitude_n 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who_o we_o may_v appoint_v but_o to_o what_o it_o be_v not_o say_v unto_o this_o office_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o this_o business_n and_o himself_o suppose_v pag._n 132._o that_o there_o may_v be_v ordination_n to_o a_o work_n and_o yet_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v not_o consist_v therein_o &_o its_o evident_a that_o ordination_n to_o a_o work_n be_v subsequent_a to_o and_o sodoth_a not_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v to_o office_n act_v 13._o 2._o &_o so_o neither_o of_o these_o place_n can_v prove_v in_o the_o least_o their_o position_n 2._o it_o be_v not_o clear_v that_o we_o have_v reference_n to_o the_o apostle_n seorsim_fw-la as_o if_o it_o be_v their_o work_n only_o but_o conjunctim_fw-la with_o the_o
correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n ib._n 3._o he_o say_v of_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n that_o while_o he_o repent_v not_o he_o be_v to_o be_v look_v upon_o after_o a_o sort_n as_o a_o unbaptised_a person_n or_o as_o a_o heathen_a yet_o when_o he_o do_v repent_v he_o need_v no_o new_a baptism_n forasmuch_o as_o god_n be_v please_v to_o impute_v to_o he_o his_o former_a baptism_n pa._n 27._o 4._o he_o say_v that_o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n pa._n 36._o 5._o he_o say_v vzzah_n be_v punish_v not_o principal_o at_o least_o not_o sole_o because_o he_o do_v touch_v the_o ark_n with_o his_o head_n but_o because_o he_o do_v not_o bear_v it_o upon_o his_o shoulder_n pag._n 99_o which_o be_v against_o 1_o chron._n 13._o 10._o 6._o he_o be_v not_o positive_a in_o it_o but_o give_v it_o as_o his_o opinion_n that_o apostle_n have_v not_o their_o commission_n as_o apostle_n till_o mat._n 28._o pag._n 105_o 106._o 2._o self-contradicting_a passage_n 1._o that_o a_o man_n be_v make_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n by_o baptism_n be_v none_o of_o our_o assertion_n pag._n 23._o 1._o what_o a_o monstrous_a paradox_n be_v this_o baptism_n make_v not_o a_o man_n to_o stand_v in_o relation_n to_o any_o church_n p._n 28._o in_o scripture_n there_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la of_o any_o other_o door_n of_o admission_n p._n 25._o 2._o either_o a_o minister_n eject_v a_o man_n just_o out_o of_o his_o own_o church_n eject_v he_o out_o of_o all_o other_o church_n or_o he_o be_v juridical_o eject_v out_o of_o other_o church_n and_o so_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n of_o be_v receive_v into_o other_o church_n which_o what_o horrid_a confusion_n it_o will_v introduce_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 24._o 2._o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o a_o excomunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o church-member_n though_o disease_v p._n 26_o 3._o if_o a_o religious_a general_n in_o speak_v to_o his_o army_n principal_o aim_v at_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o preach_v though_o his_o end_n in_o speak_v be_v their_o salvation_n pag._n 41._o 3._o speak_v of_o paul_n he_o say_v the_o end_n of_o the_o actor_n or_o speaker_n be_v pure_o &_o sole_o the_o salvation_n of_o their_o soul_n &_o so_o it_o be_v tru_o and_o may_v proper_o be_v call_v preach_v p._n 41_o 42._o 4._o the_o less_o be_v call_v of_o the_o great_a pag._n 138._o we_o never_o find_v ordination_n practise_v either_o in_o the_o old_a or_o new_a testament_n but_o by_o person_n in_o authority_n towards_o their_o inferior_n pag._n 160._o 4._o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o any_o prejudice_n to_o the_o extraordinarines_n of_o timothy_n office_n that_o it_o be_v confer_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n pag._n 149._o what_o more_o ordinary_a both_o in_o state_n and_o church_n then_o for_o a_o person_n to_o have_v a_o office_n convey_v to_o he_o viz._n ministerial_o by_o such_o as_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o p._n 149._o 3_o repugnancy_n to_o the_o provincial_a assembly_n and_o dr._n collings_n 1._o every_o minister_n by_o excommunication_n eject_v member_n out_o of_o the_o church_n catholic_n visi_fw-la ble_n jus._n divin_n min._n pag._n 139._o 1._o it_o may_v be_v say_v a_o excommunicate_a person_n ordinary_o be_v a_o member_n a_o churchmember_v though_o disease_v mr_n pool_n pag._n 26._o 2._o they_o i._n e._n apostle_n and_o evangilist_n be_v virtual_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n they_o differ_v nothing_o from_o they_o but_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o power_n dr._n collings_n pag._n 105_o 2._o the_o difference_n between_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a power_n lie_v not_o in_o the_o extent_n of_o their_o relation_n mr._n pool_n p._n 36._o  _fw-fr and_n he_o make_v pastor_n power_n as_o extensive_a as_o as_o he_o suppose_v their_o relation_n to_o be_v pag._n 6._o question_n discuss_v pr._n s._n note_v the_o preacher_n send_v vind._n note_v the_o precede_a treatise_n the_o number_n direct_v to_o the_o page_n in_o either_o of_o the_o treatise_n where_o the_o question_n be_v resolve_v 1._o whether_o there_o be_v a_o universal_a political_a visible_a church_n or_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o church_n of_o church_n a_o visible_a catholic_n church_n form_v unto_o fellowshi●p_n in_o new_a testament_n ordinance_n negate_fw-la epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 4._o 5._o vind._n of_o epist_n 2._o whether_o visible_a saint_n be_v the_o only_a fit_a matter_n for_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist._n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 6._o 3._o who_o be_v visible_a saint_n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n p._n 7._o 4._o whether_o a_o union_n by_o covenant_n consent_n or_o agreement_n be_v necessary_a unto_o memberhood_n in_o a_o visible_a church_n aff._n epist_n to_o pr._n s._n pag._n 9_o 5._o who_o may_v be_v style_v minister_n pr._n s._n pag._n 2_o vind._n p._n 1._o 6._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n and_o employment_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o be_v correlate_n or_o to_o a_o church_n preach_v sent._n 4._o vindicat._n pag._n 2._o etc._n etc._n 7._o whether_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la vindicat._n p._n 4._o 5._o 8._o whether_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n as_o officer_n to_o a_o universal_a church_n neg._n whether_o to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o aff_n whether_o to_o heathen_n and_o such_o as_o be_v of_o no_o church_n neg._n pre._n s._n 288._o vind._n p._n 12_o 13._o etc._n etc._n p._n 86._o etc._n etc._n 9_o what_o be_v office_n pr._n s._n 14._o 10_o whether_o there_o be_v a_o difference_n between_o preach_v ex_fw-la officio_fw-la and_o ex_fw-la dono_n aff_n preach_v s._n 18._o 11._o whether_o unbeliever_n may_v come_v into_o churchm●●●ings_n to_o hear_v the_o word_n aff._n pr._n s._n 18._o 12._o what_o be_v preach_v pr._n s._n 20._o 13._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o in_o private_a aff_n pr._n 8._o 21._o 14._o whether_o it_o be_v preach_v when_o it_o be_v not_o in_o a_o sacred_a assembly_n aff._n pr._n s._n p._n 22_o 23._o 15._o what_o be_v authoritative_a preach_n preach_v s._n 25._o to_o 28._o 16._o whether_o person_n who_o have_v preach_v gift_n and_o grace_n may_v ordinary_o exercise_v those_o gift_n in_o public_a assembly_n though_o they_o be_v not_o ordain_v officer_n affirm_v preach_v s._n 29._o to_o 216._o vind._n pag._n 21._o etc._n etc._n 125._o etc._n etc._n 17._o whether_o election_n ought_v to_o precede_v ordination_n aff._n pr._n s._n 30._o 18._o what_o call_n be_v sufficient_a to_o the_o exercise_n of_o preach_v gift_n pr._n s._n 37._o vind._n 26._o 19_o whether_o from_o gift_a man_n preach_v it_o will_v follow_v that_o gift_a woman_n may_v preach_v or_o that_o man_n gift_v for_o any_o civil_a or_o military_a employment_n may_v act_n therein_o without_o any_o further_o call_v neg._n pr._n s._n 38_o 39_o vind._n 29._o 20._o whether_o it_o belong_v to_o the_o sphere_n place_n and_o call_n of_o gift_a man_n to_o preach_v affirm_v preach_v s._n 40._o 21._o whether_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n and_o the_o baptism_n of_o christ_n be_v distinguish_v and_o how_o pr._n s._n 69._o 70._o vind._n 66._o to_o 71._o 22._o whether_o teach_v and_o preach_v be_v in_o scripture_n phrase_n the_o same_o aff._n p._n 79._o pr._n s._n 23._o whether_o necessity_n be_v a_o good_a plea_n against_o the_o argument_n from_o act_v 8_o and_o whether_o the_o suppose_a necessity_n make_v officer_n or_o no_o pr._n s._n 86._o to_o 88_o vind._n 33_o 34_o 35._o 141._o 24._o whether_o the_o prophesy_a 1_o corin._n 14._o be_v a_o gift_n or_o a_o office_n preach_v sent._n 90._o vind._n 37._o 145._o whether_o it_o be_v a_o gift_n still_o continue_v aff._n p._n s._n 96._o vindicat._n p._n 41._o 148._o whether_o those_o prophet_n speak_v by_o extraordinary_a revelation_n neg._n preach_v s._n 104_o 105._o vind._n 46_o 151_o 152_o 153._o 25._o what_o be_v not_o and_o what_o be_v the_o mission_n or_o send_v rom._n 15._o preach_v sent._n 121_o to_o 138._o whether_o mission_n be_v ordination_n neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 123._o vindic._n 63_o 64._o whether_o mission_n authorize_v or_o give_v a_o call_n to_o be_v a_o officer_n or_o to_o preach_v neg_fw-mi pr._n s._n 121._o vindicat_fw-la 156._o 159_o 160._o 26._o whether_o the_o example_n of_o saul_n offer_v sacrifice_n or_o vzzahs_n touch_v the_o ark_n do_v forbid_v gift_v man_n preach_v neg._n pr._n s._n 154_o 155._o vindicat_fw-la 164_o 165._o 27._o whether_o gift_a man_n preach_v do_v make_v officer_n void_a or_o un-necessary_a as_o to_o that_o act_n neg._n pr._n s._n 156._o vindicat_fw-la 55_o 56_o 57_o 28_o whether_o if_o gift_a man_n may_v preach_v will_v it_o follow_v that_o they_o may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n neg._n pr._n s._n 165_o vind._n 169._o 170._o 29._o whether_o gift_a