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A26860 An answer to Mr. Dodwell and Dr. Sherlocke, confuting an universal humane church-supremacy aristocratical and monarchical, as church-tyranny and popery : and defending Dr. Isaac Barrow's treatise against it by Richard Baxter ; preparatory to a fuller treatise against such an universal soveraignty as contrary to reason, Christianity, the Protestant profession, and the Church of England, though the corrupters usurp that title. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1682 (1682) Wing B1184; ESTC R16768 131,071 189

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submit_v to_o all_o unsinful_a condition_n of_o the_o episcopal_a communion_n where_o they_o live_v if_o impose_v by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a government_n thereof_o this_o prove_v by_o these_o two_o degree_n 1._o that_o the_o supposition_n of_o their_o being_n less_o secure_a of_o salvation_n out_o of_o this_o episcopal_a communion_n than_o in_o it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o prove_v they_o oblige_v to_o submit_v to_o all_o term_n not_o direct_o sinful_a however_o unexpedient_a rather_o than_o separate_v themselves_o or_o suffer_v themselves_o to_o be_v exclude_v from_o this_o communion_n chap._n 1._o §_o 7_o 8_o 9_o 10._o 2._o that_o there_o be_v indeed_o less_o security_n of_o salvation_n to_o be_v have_v even_o on_o performance_n of_o the_o moral_a condition_n of_o salvation_n out_o of_o this_o episcopal_a communion_n than_o in_o it_o this_o prove_v from_o two_o thing_n 1._o that_o they_o can_v be_v so_o well_o assure_v of_o their_o salvation_n in_o the_o use_n of_o extraordinary_a as_o of_o ordinary_a mean_n nay_o that_o they_o be_v leave_v to_o extraordinary_n be_v a_o condition_n either_o very_o hazardous_a or_o at_o least_o very_a uncomfortable_a at_o present_a whatever_o it_o may_v prove_v hereafter_o ch._n ii_o 2._o that_o these_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o salvation_n be_v in_o respect_n of_o every_o particular_a person_n confine_v to_o the_o episcopal_a communion_n of_o the_o place_n he_o live_v in_o as_o long_o as_o he_o live_v in_o it_o this_o prove_v from_o two_o thing_n 1._o that_o these_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o salvation_n be_v confine_v to_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n this_o prove_v from_o four_o thing_n 1._o we_o can_v be_v assure_v that_o god_n will_v do_v for_o we_o what_o be_v necessary_a for_o our_o salvation_n on_o his_o part_n otherwise_o than_o by_o his_o express_a promise_n that_o he_o will_v do_v it_o chap._n iii_o §_o 1_o 2._o 2._o the_o ordinary_a mean_n how_o we_o may_v assure_v ourselves_o of_o our_o interest_n in_o his_o promise_n be_v by_o our_o interest_n in_o his_o covenant_n by_o which_o they_o be_v convey_v to_o we_o chap._n iii_o from_o §_o 5._o to_o the_o end_n 3._o the_o ordinary_a mean_n by_o which_o we_o may_v assure_v ourselves_o of_o our_o interest_n in_o this_o covenant_n with_o he_o be_v by_o our_o partake_n in_o these_o external_a solemnity_n by_o which_o this_o covenant_n be_v transact_v and_o maintain_v chap._n iv_o five_o vi_o vii_o 4._o the_o participation_n in_o these_o external_a solemnity_n with_o any_o legal_a validity_n be_v only_o to_o be_v have_v in_o the_o external_a communion_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n chap._n viii_o b._n ii_o that_o this_o visible_a church_n to_o who_o external_a communion_n these_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o salvation_n be_v confine_v be_v no_o other_o than_o the_o episcopal_a communion_n of_o the_o place_n where_o any_o one_o life_n while_o he_o live_v there_o this_o prove_v in_o two_o part_n a_o 1._o that_o the_o visible_a church_n 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what_o succession_n we_o have_v p._n 54._o of_o aidan_n and_o finans_n episcopacy_n p._n 57_o his_o assertion_n of_o supreme_a church-power_n from_o who_o there_o be_v no_o appeal_n to_o scripture_n to_o god_n or_o the_o life_n to_o come_v and_o who_o intention_n be_v the_o measure_n of_o the_o power_n of_o all_o ordain_v by_o they_o examine_v p._n 57_o etc._n etc._n whether_o the_o church_n on_o earth_n be_v one_o visible_a society_n under_o one_o visible_a humane_a government_n p._n 59_o whether_o divine_a authority_n may_v not_o be_v pretend_v for_o practise_v contrary_a to_o some_o superior_n p._n 60_o chap._n 5._o wherein_o mr_n dodwell_n deceit_n and_o their_o danger_n lie_v p._n 63._o whether_o there_o be_v but_o one_o sense_n of_o all_o term_n which_o cause_v oblige_v man_n to_o mean_v all_o that_o have_v skill_n in_o cause_n be_v to_o understand_v p._n 63._o twelve_o great_a doctrinal_a article_n in_o which_o we_o differ_v from_o mr._n dodwell_n p._n 65._o some_o question_n put_v to_o he_o p._n 68_o his_o second_o letter_n to_o i_o from_o ireland_n p._n 70._o my_o answer_n to_o it_o p._n 75._o prove_v the_o impossibtlity_n of_o just_a discipline_n in_o the_o diocesan_n way_n which_o i_o dissent_v from_o the_o short_a answer_n to_o mr._n dodwell_n long_a letter_n which_o dr_n sherlock_n and_o mr._n morrice_n extol_v which_o be_v full_o answer_v in_o my_o treatise_n of_o episcopacy_n p._n 90._o a_o letter_n send_v to_o mr._n dodwell_n mar._n 12_o 1681._o a_o letter_n to_o mr._n dodwell_n nou._n 15._o 1680._o another_o to_o he_o of_o july_n 9_o 1677._o open_v many_o of_o our_o chief_a difference_n p._n 100_o another_o after_o a_o personal_a conference_n send_v to_o he_o but_o return_v because_o he_o be_v go_v into_o the_o country_n debate_v with_o he_o eleven_o of_o our_o great_a difference_n in_o which_o mr._n dodwell_n may_v be_v know_v p._n 118._o a_o account_n of_o my_o dissent_n from_o dr._n sherlock_n his_o doctrine_n accusation_n and_o argumentation_n special_o about_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o universal_a a_o national_a and_o single_a church_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o schism_n etc._n etc._n chap._n 1._o the_o historical_a proem_n chap._n 2._o my_o ●etter_n and_o counsel_n to_o mr._n sherlock_n many_o year_n ago_o advise_v he_o to_o expound_v or_o retract_v his_o word_n which_o seem_v to_o deny_v the_o three_o article_n of_o our_o baptismal_a covenant_n our_o belief_n in_o god_n the_o father_n the_o son_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n p._n 162_o his_o answer_n p._n 173_o chap._n 3._o of_o the_o ill_a manner_n of_o these_o man_n confutation_n p._n 174_o chap._n 4._o the_o main_a part_n of_o our_o difference_n viz._n what_o be_v the_o essential_a form_n of_o the_o catholic_n national_a and_o single_a church_n p._n 182_o chap._n 5._o what_o be_v the_o
a_o true_a bishop_n by_o virtue_n of_o god_n law_n and_o if_o he_o have_v better_a qualification_n and_o election_n and_o ordination_n to_o be_v of_o sure_a authority_n than_o the_o diocesan_n it_o be_v his_o communion_n that_o we_o must_v prefer_v 4._o but_o indeed_o baptism_n and_o salvation_n be_v ordinary_o give_v before_o episcopal_a communion_n of_o any_o sort_n 5._o they_o that_o think_v the_o pope_n antichrist_n as_o most_o protestant_a bishop_n long_o do_v think_v it_o a_o duty_n to_o reject_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n where_o they_o live_v and_o denmark_n and_o other_o country_n set_v up_o other_o against_o they_o that_o be_v ordain_v by_o bugenhagius_n and_o other_o prsbyter_n 6._o parochial_a and_o diocesan_n bound_n be_v humane_a mutable_a institution_n 7._o if_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n be_v a_o schismatic_a the_o communion_n of_o a_o better_a near_o be_v better_a b._n ii_o 1._o all_o causleless_a separation_n from_o any_o christian_n or_o causleless_a disobedience_n to_o any_o pastor_n or_o neglect_v of_o any_o christian_a duty_n needful_a to_o the_o church_n peace_n and_o concord_n and_o every_o opinion_n and_o practice_n that_o be_v against_o they_o do_v make_v a_o man_n guilty_a of_o sinful_a division_n or_o schism_n in_o some_o degree_n and_o while_o every_o christian_n have_v many_o error_n and_o sin_n which_o all_o tend_v to_o some_o sinful_a breach_n as_o the_o least_o sore_o be_v solutio_fw-la continui_fw-la i_o can_v see_v but_o every_o man_n live_v have_v some_o guilt_n of_o schism_n nor_o that_o there_o be_v any_o church_n on_o earth_n that_o have_v not_o some_o such_o guilt_n but_o every_o degree_n of_o guilt_n denominate_v not_o the_o man_n or_o church_n a_o schismatic_a in_o a_o predominant_a or_o mortal_a sense_n and_o in_o charity_n i_o hope_v that_o even_o some_o of_o those_o heinous_a schismatic_n may_v be_v save_v that_o divide_v the_o church_n by_o their_o usurpation_n obtrusion_n sinful_a imposition_n and_o worldly_a domination_n yea_o some_o that_o in_o blind_a zeal_n put_v down_o parish-bishop_n and_o smite_v and_o silence_v the_o pastor_n and_o scatter_v the_o flock_n and_o if_o i_o must_v have_v communion_n with_o none_o that_o be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n with_o what_o church_n or_o bishop_n shall_v i_o join_v and_o if_o their_o sacrament_n be_v invalid_a what_o a_o case_n be_v italy_n spain_n france_n yea_o and_o england_n in_o must_v all_o be_v baptize_v again_o that_o they_o baptize_v 2._o but_o it_o be_v no_o schism_n but_o a_o duty_n for_o the_o people_n as_o far_o to_o forsake_v a_o sinful_a bishop_n much_o more_o a_o usurper_n as_o cyprian_a and_o that_o council_n advise_v they_o to_o do_v in_o the_o case_n of_o martial_a and_o basilides_n 3._o and_o after_o all_o this_o deceitful_a confusion_n note_v reader_n that_o he_o deny_v not_o our_o disobedience_n to_o be_v lawful_a in_o case_n of_o sinful_a condition_n impose_v and_o if_o we_o full_o prove_v not_o this_o to_o be_v our_o case_n let_v our_o accuser_n silence_n we_o and_o let_v our_o guilt_n be_v our_o shame_n 4._o and_o if_o people_n that_o have_v parish-bishop_n on_o the_o place_n where_o they_o live_v lawful_o call_v shall_v forsake_v they_o to_o obey_v a_o diocesan_n that_o be_v not_o on_o the_o place_n but_o perhaps_o forty_o or_o fifty_o or_o sixty_o mile_n off_o and_o never_o see_v they_o and_o be_v obtrude_v contrary_a to_o the_o ancient_a canon_n which_o nullify_v such_o and_o set_v himself_o to_o silence_v faithful_a pastor_n and_o persecute_v they_o and_o other_o godly_a christian_n for_o not_o sin_v heinous_o upon_o deliberate_a choice_n and_o covenant_n do_v not_o even_o this_o man_n conclude_v such_o to_o be_v schismatic_n that_o be_v out_o of_o the_o ordinary_a way_n and_o hope_n of_o salvation_n chap._n iii_o the_o consequence_n of_o mr._n dodwell_n foresay_a doctrine_n 1._o those_o that_o live_v under_o the_o popish_a bishop_n in_o italy_n spain_n france_n etc._n etc._n must_v live_v in_o their_o communion_n and_o under_o their_o command_n in_o all_o unsinful_a thing_n 2._o the_o protestant_a church_n that_o have_v not_o episcopal_a ordination_n be_v no_o true_a church_n and_o have_v no_o true_a minister_n or_o sacrament_n nor_o any_o covenant-right_a to_o salvation_n 3._o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v in_o the_o same_o unchurch_v damnable_a case_n that_o have_v bishop_n if_o they_o have_v not_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n of_o such_o from_o the_o apostle_n canonical_o ordain_v 4._o therefore_o the_o church_n of_o denmark_n germany_n etc._n etc._n that_o have_v superintendent_o ordain_v at_o the_o reformation_n by_o bugenhagius_n pomeranus_n a_o presbyter_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n who_o succession_n be_v interrupt_v be_v in_o the_o same_o case_n 5._o it_o be_v schism_n and_o reject_v sacrament_n and_o covenant-right_a to_o salvation_n in_o all_o the_o people_n that_o continue_v in_o such_o protestant_a church_n and_o communicate_v with_o they_o 6._o it_o be_v better_a for_o the_o protestant_n in_o france_n to_o join_v with_o the_o papist_n than_o to_o live_v as_o they_o do_v without_o sacrament_n or_o church-communion_n 7._o yet_o by_o self_n contradiction_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o certain_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n and_o all_o that_o derive_v their_o ordination_n from_o that_o church_n have_v no_o true_a bishop_n minister_n sacrament_n church_n nor_o covenant-right_a to_o salvation_n for_o it_o be_v certain_a their_o true_a succession_n have_v be_v oft_o interrupt_v 1._o by_o such_o utter_o uncapable_a person_n as_o all_o history_n describe_v and_o even_o baronius_n call_v apostaticos_fw-la non_fw-la apostolicos_fw-la and_o such_o as_o divers_a general_n council_n judge_v heretic_n infidel_n simoniak_n etc._n etc._n e_o g._n eugenius_n 4._o who_o yet_o keep_v in_o 2._o by_o such_o who_o false_a ordination_n the_o canon_n express_o null_a 3._o by_o many_o schism_n two_o or_o three_o pope_n at_o once_o of_o who_o none_o can_v tell_v who_o have_v the_o right_a or_o whether_o any_o 4_o by_o the_o pope_n take_v on_o he_o to_o be_v christ_n universal_a vicar_n a_o office_n in_o specie_fw-la usurp_v which_o he_o make_v his_o episcopacy_n and_o as_o such_o give_v his_o order_n and_o all_o his_o presbyter_n have_v turn_v the_o true_a ministry_n into_o the_o false_a one_o of_o mass-priest_n and_o be_v no_o true_a minister_n can_v give_v no_o true_a sacrament_n by_o his_o rule_n 8._o yea_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o few_o if_o any_o church_n on_o earth_n can_v prove_v such_o a_o uninterrupted_a succession_n as_o he_o and_o the_o papist_n describe_v and_o most_o it_o be_v know_v have_v no_o such_o thing_n 9_o therefore_o if_o any_o have_v such_o a_o succession_n they_o can_v know_v it_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n that_o can_v be_v prove_v and_o so_o can_v be_v sure_a that_o they_o be_v true_a church_n etc._n etc._n 10._o for_o the_o certainty_n of_o any_o true_a ministry_n church_n sacrament_n and_o salvation_n depend_v on_o such_o knowledge_n of_o history_n as_o be_v not_o in_o the_o world_n viz._n to_o know_v that_o this_o bishop_n and_o his_o ordainer_n and_o his_o ordainer_n and_o his_o ordainer_n and_o so_o up_o to_o the_o apostle_n be_v every_o one_o true_a bishop_n and_o true_o ordain_v which_o no_o mortal_a man_n can_v know_v 11._o man_n that_o by_o a_o prince_n against_o even_o the_o nullify_a canon_n can_v but_o get_v possession_n of_o patriarchal_a and_o diocesan_n church_n without_o the_o clergy_n or_o people_n choice_n have_v thereby_o the_o power_n of_o damn_v man_n that_o fear_v god_n at_o their_o pleasure_n for_o 1._o they_o must_v pass_v for_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n 2._o they_o may_v command_v any_o unsinful_a thing_n and_o excommunicate_v he_o that_o do_v not_o obey_v 3._o he_o be_v a_o schismatic_a that_o suffer_v himself_o so_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a and_o so_o be_v in_o a_o damnable_a state_n 4._o he_o can_v hinder_v it_o not_o know_v the_o thing_n to_o be_v unsinful_a 12._o for_o by_o this_o whoever_o will_v escape_v damnable_a schism_n must_v be_v one_o that_o know_v the_o unsinfulness_n as_o he_o speak_v of_o all_o thing_n in_o the_o world_n that_o be_v such_o which_o a_o prelate_n may_v command_v or_o else_o he_o must_v do_v any_o thing_n which_o he_o judge_v sin_n if_o a_o prelate_n command_v it_o but_o that_o be_v wicked_a idolize_v man_n 13._o and_o therefore_o by_o this_o rule_n no_o man_n live_a can_v be_v save_v that_o a_o prelate_n have_v a_o mind_n to_o damn_v or_o from_o his_o damn_v imposition_n for_o no_o man_n live_v know_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o all_o lawful_a thing_n and_o therefore_o may_v take_v a_o command_v thing_n for_o sin_n that_o be_v not_o and_o then_o if_o he_o wilful_o do_v that_o which_o he_o judge_v sin_n he_o rebell_v against_o god_n if_o he_o do_v it_o not_o the_o prelate_n may_v excommunicate_v he_o and_o unresistible_o make_v
he_o a_o damnable_a schismatic_n 14._o and_o hereby_o there_o be_v as_o many_o hundred_o new_a article_n of_o faith_n make_v as_o there_o be_v thing_n lawful_a which_o a_o prelate_n will_v command_v for_o though_o all_o be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v that_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v yet_o all_o must_v be_v believe_v to_o be_v lawful_a and_o duty_n which_o must_v be_v do_v as_o such_o e._n g._n we_o can_v love_v god_n worship_v he_o hear_v and_o read_v his_o word_n etc._n etc._n as_o by_o divine_a obedience_n unless_o we_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v our_o duty_n by_o a_o divine_a command_n therefore_o when_o as_o mr._n dodwell_n dr._n saywell_n and_o such_o other_o tell_v we_o what_o damn_v schism_n it_o be_v to_o disobey_v such_o command_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o to_o suffer_v ourselves_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a it_o plain_o include_v that_o it_o be_v as_o damn_v a_o sin_n to_o take_v any_o lawful_a thing_n to_o be_v a_o sin_n and_o not_o to_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v lawful_a whatever_o the_o bishop_n shall_v command_v and_o so_o to_o how_o many_o hundred_o indifferent_a thing_n may_v the_o article_n of_o our_o faith_n be_v extend_v while_o it_o be_v make_v ordinary_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n to_o do_v they_o and_o therefore_o to_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v lawful_a 15_o by_o this_o he_o confound_v communion_n and_o obedience_n i_o may_v have_v communion_n with_o many_o bishop_n who_o i_o be_o not_o bind_v to_o obey_v but_o i_o can_v hinder_v they_o from_o excommunicate_v i_o without_o obey_v they_o 16._o yea_o he_o make_v communion_n and_o salvation_n to_o lie_v not_o only_o on_o such_o obedience_n but_o on_o such_o perfection_n of_o obedience_n as_o reach_v to_o every_o lawful_a indifferent_a thing_n whereas_o god_n himself_o under_o the_o gospel_n accept_v of_o sincerity_n instead_o of_o perfection_n which_o the_o law_n require_v of_o perfect_a man_n 17._o this_o be_v the_o way_n to_o make_v bishop_n absolute_a lord_n of_o king_n and_o state_n and_o all_o the_o world_n if_o they_o can_v make_v they_o believe_v that_o on_o pain_n of_o damnation_n for_o schism_n all_o must_v obey_v they_o even_o in_o every_o indifferent_a thing_n 18._o if_o you_o will_v ferret_v he_o out_o of_o his_o burrow_n ask_v mr._n dodwell_n what_o if_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o place_n where_o i_o live_v contradict_v the_o archbishop_n or_o the_o synod_n or_o most_o of_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o land_n which_o must_v i_o obey_v to_o escape_v damn_v schism_n doubtless_o he_o will_v allow_v i_o to_o disobey_v my_o bishop_n but_o what_o if_o the_o national_a synod_n gainsay_v the_o provincial_n he_o will_v say_v i_o may_v disobey_v the_o provincial_n but_o what_o if_o a_o council_n of_o many_o nation_n call_v general_n gainsay_v the_o national_a and_o it_o be_v know_v that_o our_o national_a church_n be_v gainsay_v by_o the_o far_o great_a part_n of_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o world_n which_o must_v i_o obey_v if_o the_o national_a why_o not_o a_o provincial_n 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