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a_o particular_a bishop_n he_o contradict_v cardinal_n bellarmin_n who_o lib._n 3._o de_fw-fr eccles_n militante_fw-la cap._n 5._o allege_v this_o definition_n of_o s._n cyprian_a word_n by_o word_n and_o lib._n 4._o de_fw-la notis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la cap._n 8._o he_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n by_o no_o mean_n can_v be_v without_o bishop_n because_o s._n cypian_n say_v ecclesians_n esse_fw-la episcope_n adunatam_fw-la &_o episcopum_fw-la esse_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la &_o ecclesiam_fw-la in_o episcopo_fw-la that_o the_o church_n be_v unite_v to_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o bishop_n be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o the_o church_n in_o the_o bishop_n where_o first_o by_o the_o word_n sacerdoti_fw-la priest_n he_o understand_v a_o particular_a bishop_n not_o a_o priest_n or_o pastor_n indefinitelie_o as_o m._n nicholas_n say_v because_o in_o that_o place_n he_o prove_v that_o the_o church_n can_v be_v without_o particular_a bishop_n secondelie_o he_o prove_v out_o of_o this_o 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20._o but_o how_o proove_v he_o that_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n may_v be_v a_o church_n without_o a_o bishop_n because_o say_v he_o the_o pope_n in_o defect_n of_o particular_a bishop_n be_v the_o particular_a bishop_n ordinary_a and_o diocesan_n of_o such_o church_n as_o philosopher_n do_v teach_v that_o almighty_a god_n the_o supreme_a and_o universal_a cause_n of_o all_o effect_n concur_v not_o only_o as_o a_o immediate_a but_o also_o as_o a_o particular_a cause_n to_o the_o produce_v of_o effect_n when_o second_o particular_a cause_n do_v fail_v thus_o he_o 21._o and_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v be_v a_o particular_a bishop_n to_o england_n he_o must_v show_v it_o else_o m._n doctor_n may_v still_o say_v that_o all_o the_o while_n england_n be_v without_o a_o particular_a bishop_n it_o be_v no_o particular_a church_n or_o if_o he_o think_v he_o may_v argue_v à _fw-fr possibili_fw-la ad_fw-la esse_fw-la from_o possibility_n to_o actual_a be_v as_o if_o 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by_o virtue_n of_o his_o state_n of_o regular_a be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n though_o if_o he_o be_v bishop_n priest_n or_o deacon_n etc._n etc._n he_o be_v also_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o much_o as_o the_o secular_a bishop_n or_o priest_n but_o as_o regular_a he_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o if_o as_o regular_a he_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n than_o all_o regular_o even_o lay_v brother_n and_o religious_a woman_n shall_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n 4._o for_o as_o because_o it_o agree_v to_o man_n as_o man_n to_o be_v risibilis_fw-la it_o agree_v to_o every_o man_n to_o be_v risibilis_fw-la so_o if_o it_o agree_v to_o a_o regular_a as_o regular_a to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n every_o regular_a though_o but_o a_o converse_v or_o a_o lay_v brother_n or_o sister_n must_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n 5._o wherefore_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n use_v m._n doctor_n reduplication_n 6._o diony_n carthe_n art_n 13._o in_o theorian_n c._n 6._o for_o he_o explicate_a s._n dionysius_n areopagita_n say_v that_o s._n denys_n declarat_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la significat_fw-la monachorum_fw-la ordinem_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la pralatum_fw-la alijs_fw-la iurisdictionaliter_fw-la atque_fw-la pralaticè_fw-la in_fw-la quantum_fw-la sunt_fw-la monachi_fw-la do_v declare_v that_o be_v signify_v that_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n as_o they_o be_v monk_n behold_v his_o reduplication_n be_v not_o place_v over_o other_o jurisdictionallie_o and_o in_o manner_n of_o prelate_n though_o the_o same_o author_n present_o after_o grant_v that_o monk_n in_o their_o own_o order_n have_v prelacy_n over_o other_o as_o abbot_n and_o priour_n have_v and_o that_o in_o late_a time_n religious_a man_n be_v more_o frequent_o admit_v to_o be_v priest_n which_o m._n doctor_n also_o grant_v 6._o wherefore_o m._n nicholas_n must_v not_o except_v against_o that_o reduplication_n of_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n lest_o he_o except_v against_o the_o mission_n of_o regulars_n in_o o_o england_n for_o although_o their_o observe_v of_o their_o vow_n and_o rule_n do_v much_o perfect_v they_o if_o they_o observe_v they_o as_o they_o shall_v do_v yet_o as_o regulars_n they_o can_v do_v little_a good_a in_o england_n in_o this_o time_n of_o persecution_n for_o that_o they_o can_v not_o keep_v the_o choir_n and_o cloister_n they_o can_v rise_v at_o midnight_n to_o sing_v matin_n they_o can_v wear_v their_o habit_n nor_o use_v abstinence_n or_o other_o austerity_n externallie_o thereby_o to_o give_v good_a example_n for_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o persecution_n they_o fare_v as_o other_o be_v lodge_v and_o clothe_v &_o have_v almost_o in_o all_o thing_n the_o same_o liberty_n that_o other_o have_v and_o so_o as_o priest_n they_o be_v send_v to_o england_n and_o as_o priest_n by_o preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n they_o be_v most_o beneficall_a to_o our_o country_n 7._o corp_n 2.2_o q._n 184_o a._n 8_o in_o corp_n and_o that_o priest_n not_o curate_n or_o pastor_n be_v in_o a_o perfect_a state_n than_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n not_o priest_n thomas_n planelie_o teach_v who_o compare_v religious_a with_o secular_a priest_n who_o be_v curate_n or_o archdeacon_n say_v only_o that_o a_o religious_a man_n as_o religious_a excel_v the_o secular_a priest_n not_o as_o priest_n but_o as_o in_o state_n of_o secular_a and_o no_o marvel_n for_o so_o the_o priest_n be_v consider_v as_o he_o aggrege_v with_o lay_v man_n and_o therefore_o a_o little_a after_o in_o the_o same_o place_n he_o say_v si_fw-la vero_fw-la religiosus_fw-la etiam_fw-la ordine_fw-la careat_fw-la sicut_fw-la patet_fw-la de_fw-la conversis_fw-la religionum_fw-la sic_fw-la manifestum_fw-la est_fw-la excellere_fw-la praeeminentiam_fw-la ordinis_fw-la quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la dignitatem_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o if_o the_o religious_a want_v also_o order_n as_o converse_n doc_fw-fr so_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o preeminence_n of_o order_n do_v excel_v in_o dignity_n because_o by_o holy_a order_n one_o be_v depute_v to_o most_o worthy_a ministery_n by_o which_o service_n be_v do_v to_o christ_n himself_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n to_o which_o be_v require_v great_a interior_a sanctity_n than_o the_o state_n of_o religion_n require_v because_o as_o dionysius_n say_v in_o his_o sixth_o chapter_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n the_o monastical_a order_n ought_v to_o follow_v priestly_a order_n and_o by_o their_o imitation_n to_o ascend_v to_o divine_a thing_n thus_o s._n thomas_n and_o who_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o holy_a order_n of_o priesthood_n especial_o excel_v the_o regular_a state_n which_o be_v no_o hâ—ly_a order_n and_o consequent_o who_o can_v doubt_v but_o that_o a_o priest_n as_o priest_n be_v in_o a_o high_a state_n than_o a_o regular_a as_o regular_n 2._o val._n to_o 3._o disp_n 10_o q._n 2._o punct_a 5._o conc_fw-fr 2._o valentia_n a_o jesuite_n speak_v of_o inferior_a prelate_n say_v simo_n in_o
eiusmodi_fw-la praelatis_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o in_o such_o prelate_n we_o confider_v the_o degree_n of_o the_o holy_a order_n speak_v simple_o there_o be_v some_o thing_n in_o they_o worthy_a and_o more_o perfect_a then_o in_o the_o religious_a as_o religious_a not_o in_o holy_a order_n where_o we_o see_v he_o use_v m._n doctor_n reduplication_n which_o offend_v m._n nicholas_n and_o prefer_v the_o holy_a order_n before_o the_o state_n and_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a man_n who_o be_v not_o in_o holy_a order_n m._n nicholas_n i_o grante_v that_o if_o we_o limit_v the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n to_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n etc._n etc._n then_o to_o say_v that_o religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v no_o more_o than_o to_o say_v religious_a not_o priest_n or_o bishop_n be_v no_o priest_n or_o bishop_n which_o sure_o be_v no_o great_a mystery_n but_o than_o it_o shall_v be_v prove_v with_o what_o ground_n the_o mame_n of_o hierarchy_n shall_v be_v so_o limit_v n._n 2._o the_o reply_n how_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o how_o they_o be_v not_o 8._o m._n nicholas_n from_o this_o place_n begin_v to_o prove_v that_o regulars_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o true_o if_o either_o god_n or_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n on_o they_o god_n forbid_v that_o i_o shall_v go_v about_o to_o take_v it_o from_o they_o rather_o i_o will_v by_o word_n and_o writing_n defend_v it_o and_o hazard_n even_o my_o life_n to_o assure_v it_o the_o more_o unto_o they_o but_o if_o neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v give_v they_o this_o honour_n neither_o must_v we_o give_v it_o to_o they_o lest_o we_o break_v god_n his_o ordinance_n neither_o shall_v they_o desire_v it_o but_o as_o the_o laiety_n murmure_v not_o against_o the_o clergy_n as_o core_n dathan_n and_o abiron_n 16._o num._n 16._o and_o their_o follower_n do_v against_o moses_n and_o aaron_n for_o that_o they_o may_v not_o preach_v nor_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o as_o those_o of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n ought_v not_o to_o take_v it_o in_o evil_a part_n that_o they_o be_v not_o esteem_v religious_a so_o neither_o shall_v the_o religious_a be_v offend_v if_o we_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n neither_o god_n nor_o his_o church_n have_v bestow_v that_o honour_n upon_o they_o though_o they_o be_v adorn_v with_o many_o other_o grace_n rather_o they_o may_v rejoice_v in_o god_n that_o they_o have_v many_o perfection_n of_o a_o religious_a life_n which_o other_o have_v not_o and_o be_v furnish_v with_o more_o mean_n to_o attain_v to_o perfection_n then_o secular_a priest_n have_v and_o that_o their_o state_n be_v more_o secure_a and_o free_a from_o danger_n then_o any_o other_o state_n be_v 9_o and_o if_o m._n nicholas_n who_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v they_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n mean_v only_o that_o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n neither_o m._n doctor_n nor_o any_o good_a catholic_a will_n or_o can_v deny_v it_o nay_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n 7._o chap._n 8._o n._n 7._o say_v that_o religious_a man_n as_o religious_a be_v a_o great_a ornament_n to_o the_o church_n and_o be_v in_o this_o sense_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o they_o be_v eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v ordain_v to_o help_v and_o assist_v bishop_n and_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n 10._o but_o if_o he_o mean_v that_o they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o common_o it_o be_v take_v by_o s._n denys_n and_o divine_n for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v illuminate_v perfect_v and_o purge_v the_o rest_n by_o preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n so_o only_a bishop_n pastor_n priest_n and_o other_o minister_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n the_o holy_a council_n of_o trent_n take_v the_o hierarchy_n say_v si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la hierarchiam_fw-la divina_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la institutam_fw-la quae_fw-la constat_fw-la ex_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o pres_n byter_fw-mi be_v &_o ministris_fw-la anathema_n sit_v if_o any_o shall_v say_v that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n a_o hierarchy_n institute_v by_o the_o divine_a ordinance_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n and_o priest_n and_o minister_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v 6._o sess_n 23_o can_n 6._o where_o we_o see_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v take_v only_o for_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n and_o see_v that_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n as_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n be_v they_o be_v not_o as_o regulars_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n for_o if_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o this_o sense_n then_o lay_v brother_n and_o sister_n who_o be_v true_o regulars_n shall_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n and_o so_o shall_v be_v comprehend_v under_o bishop_n or_o priest_n or_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n 11._o and_o therefore_o i_o wonder_v that_o m._n nicholas_n pag._n 165._o shall_v say_v that_o it_o be_v temeritie_n to_o affirm_v that_o the_o council_n intend_v to_o define_v as_o a_o matter_n of_o fayto_fw-mi that_o under_o the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n can_v be_v comprehend_v only_a bishop_n priest_n or_o other_o minister_n endue_v with_o order_n or_o jurisdiction_n rather_o it_o may_v seem_v great_a temeritie_n in_o m._n nicholas_n to_o comprehend_v regulars_n as_o regulars_n under_o that_o definition_n they_o as_o such_o be_v neither_o bishop_n nor_o priest_n nor_o minister_n in_o the_o church_n but_o peradventure_o m._n nicholas_n will_v comprehend_v regulars_n under_o thâ—_n word_n minister_n and_o why_o so_o be_v they_o as_o regulars_n minister_n in_o the_o church_n who_o as_o regulars_n can_v not_o by_o office_n preach_v or_o minister_v sacrament_n or_o assist_v at_o the_o altar_n with_o the_o deacon_n and_o subdeacon_n do_v he_o ever_o read_v or_o hear_v that_o regulars_n be_v call_v minister_n of_o the_o church_n certes_o vasquez_n a_o jesuite_n and_o regular_n 2._o vasq_fw-la to_o 3._o disp_n 238._o c._n 2._o under_o that_o word_n ministris_fw-la minister_n comprehend_v only_a deacon_n not_o other_o inferior_a minister_n much_o less_o under_o that_o word_n will_v he_o understand_v regulars_n who_o as_o regulars_n be_v never_o call_v minister_n in_o the_o church_n they_o as_o regulars_n have_v no_o church-function_n other_o under_o that_o word_n minister_n understand_v deacon_n and_o subdeacons_n but_o none_o understand_v regulars_n 22._o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n chap._n 15._o touch_v this_o question_n whether_o regular_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o former_a sense_n and_o indeed_o he_o seem_v only_o to_o touch_v it_o and_o that_o with_o great_a moderation_n and_o respect_n to_o religious_a and_o therefore_o allege_v no_o author_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o and_o i_o also_o because_o i_o will_v not_o give_v the_o least_o occasion_n of_o offence_n will_v have_v be_v spare_v in_o this_o matter_n but_o that_o m._n nicholas_n urge_v i_o much_o in_o his_o 6._o question_n where_o he_o handle_v this_o point_n at_o large_a and_o say_v n._n 1_o that_o nothing_o be_v more_o frequent_a then_o that_o some_o person_n he_o seem_v to_o mean_v m._n doctor_n for_o one_o who_o i_o dare_v say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n nor_o ever_o be_v much_o conversant_a in_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n from_o who_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n wilbe_n discourse_v of_o the_o secular_a clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n and_o because_o m._n nicholas_n will_v seem_v to_o be_v more_o conversant_a in_o s._n denys_n and_o s._n thomas_n than_o other_o be_v and_o say_v that_o from_o they_o we_o have_v the_o best_a and_o almost_o only_a treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n i_o shall_v especial_o examine_v what_o s._n denys_n say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o i_o will_v show_v so_o plain_o and_o clear_o out_o of_o he_o from_o whence_o indeed_o s._n thomas_n and_o all_o divine_v have_v learned_a that_o which_o they_o say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o regular_o in_o his_o opinion_n and_o as_o he_o take_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o the_o reader_n will_v confess_v that_o either_o m._n nicholas_n never_o read_v s._n denys_n and_o so_o be_v of_o the_o number_n of_o they_o who_o as_o he_o say_v scarce_o ever_o read_v s._n denys_n or_o if_o he_o read_v he_o that_o he_o understand_v he_o not_o or_o witting_o and_o willing_o dissemble_v his_o opinion_n 13._o 5._o l._n de_fw-fr eccl._n hierarch_n cap._n 5._o s._n
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfective_a or_o perfect_a respectivelie_o he_o s._n denys_n call_v the_o catechumenes_n energuman_n and_o penitent_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o order_n that_o be_v purge_v the_o sole_o people_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d illuminate_v and_o the_o order_n of_o monk_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d perfect_v 18._o and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o author_n add_v voylà _fw-fr do_n premierement_n comme_fw-fr il_fw-fr constitue_n les_fw-fr moyne_n entrele_n peuple_fw-fr laique_fw-fr qui_fw-fr esloient_fw-fr ceux_fw-fr qui_fw-fr faisoyent_n profession_n d'vne_n plus_fw-fr grande_fw-fr perfection_n que_fw-fr les_fw-fr autres_fw-fr &_o d'vne_n vie_fw-fr plus_fw-fr devote_v &_o spirituelle_fw-fr renonçans_fw-fr anx_n affection_n &_o soucis_fw-la dâ—s_fw-la choses_fw-fr de_fw-fr ce_fw-fr monde_fw-fr se_fw-fr devoüan_n &_o consacrans_fw-la totalement_fw-fr au_fw-fr service_n de_fw-fr dieu_fw-fr etc._n etc._n behold_v then_o first_o of_o all_o how_o he_o s._n denys_n place_v the_o monk_n amongst_o the_o lay_a people_n which_o monk_n be_v they_o who_o make_v profession_n of_o a_o great_a perfection_n than_o other_o and_o of_o a_o life_n more_o denoute_n and_o spiritual_a renounce_v the_o affection_n and_o care_n of_o the_o thing_n of_o this_o world_n vow_v and_o consecrate_v themselves_o whole_o to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n 6._o l._n de_fw-fr hier._n eccl._n c_o 6._o &c_n &c_n and_o after_o that_o to_o wit_n in_o the_o page_n 76._o and_o 77._o he_o relate_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n how_o the_o priest_n that_o be_v under_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o office_n to_o consecrate_v the_o monk_n who_o make_v say_v he_o their_o profession_n entre_fw-fr les_fw-fr mains_fw-fr des_fw-fr prestre_n â—â—_o dessoub_n des_fw-fr euesques_n betwixt_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o priest_n under_o the_o bishop_n and_o pag._n 78._o this_o author_n show_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o demophilus_n how_o the_o rank_n and_o place_n of_o the_o monk_n in_o publicque_a assembly_n be_v with_o the_o lay_a people_n though_o as_o we_o have_v see_v they_o be_v above_o the_o people_n and_o under_o the_o clergy_n and_o say_v this_o author_n leur_fw-fr estoit_fw-fr deffendu_fw-fr d'entrer_fw-fr dans_fw-fr le_fw-fr presbytere_o it_o be_v ferbidden_v they_o to_o enter_v into_o the_o presbytery_n all_o which_o and_o more_o s._n denys_n himself_o have_v in_o his_o five_o and_o sixth_o chapter_n of_o his_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n as_o may_v partly_o appear_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v allege_v out_o of_o those_o two_o chapter_n 19_o by_o this_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o according_a to_o s._n denys_n and_o as_o he_o understand_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n the_o regulars_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o be_v of_o that_o part_n of_o the_o church_n which_o govern_v the_o rest_n and_o minister_v sacrament_n and_o preach_v and_o thereby_o purge_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v which_o as_o s._n denys_n say_v be_v the_o proper_a action_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o be_v call_v hierarchicall_a action_n which_o also_o be_v exercise_v in_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o angel_n in_o which_o the_o superior_a order_n illuminate_v purge_v and_o perfect_v the_o inferior_a and_o therefore_o in_o s._n denis_n his_o time_n regular_o take_v their_o place_n beneath_o the_o clergy_n and_o above_o the_o lay_a people_n and_o although_o in_o late_a time_n the_o regulars_n enjoy_v the_o clericall_a privilege_n and_o be_v more_o frequent_o ordain_v subdiacon_n deacon_n priest_n yea_o and_o bishop_n and_o as_o such_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n yet_o as_o regulars_n they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o s._n denys_n his_o opinion_n for_o then_o in_o his_o time_n also_o they_o shall_v have_v be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o m._n nicholas_n who_o tell_v we_o that_o many_o who_o never_o read_v s._n denys_n be_v forward_o to_o discourse_v of_o the_o clergy_n as_o though_o they_o only_o be_v of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n show_v that_o he_o either_o never_o read_v or_o understand_v not_o s._n denys_n who_o will_v have_v regular_o to_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o even_o according_a to_o s._n denys_n his_o opinion_n 20._o and_o thus_o i_o hope_v i_o have_v bring_v sufficient_a proof_n out_o of_o s._n denys_n to_o exclude_v regular_o as_o regular_o from_o the_o govern_n and_o perfect_a hierarchy_n though_o i_o grante_v they_o to_o be_v eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n to_o wit_n in_o like_a manner_n as_o they_o be_v member_n and_o subject_n of_o the_o kingdom_n who_o though_o eminent_a bear_v no_o rule_n in_o it_o and_o see_v that_o as_o m._n nicholas_n confess_v what_o other_o doctor_n even_o s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n say_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n they_o rake_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n his_o authority_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o they_o all_o 21._o secondlie_o i_o add_v to_o s._n denis_n and_o his_o translatour_n and_o expositor_n a_o reason_n or_o two_o and_o my_o first_o shall_v be_v take_v out_o of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n allege_v in_o my_o reply_n to_o this_o question_n n._n 7._o the_o council_n define_v that_o there_o be_v a_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o church_n which_o consist_v of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n 6._o sesse_n 23_o can_n 6._o but_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v neither_o bishop_n priest_n nor_o minister_n ergo_fw-la they_o be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o the_o council_n of_o trout_n take_v the_o word_n hierarchy_n the_o minor_a proposition_n i_o have_v prove_v in_o that_o number_n and_o so_o the_o conclusion_n must_v follow_v 22._o my_o second_o reason_n which_o exclude_v they_o from_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o meaning_n of_o s._n denis_n shall_v be_v this_o they_o who_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n must_v sympathize_v with_o that_o part_n which_o be_v confessedlie_o of_o it_o to_o wit_n with_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n in_o their_o manner_n of_o life_n and_o profession_n in_o their_o action_n and_o function_n but_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n do_v lead_v a_o life_n altogether_o different_a from_o the_o life_n of_o bishop_n priest_n and_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n and_o their_o action_n and_o function_n be_v as_o different_a ergo_fw-la regulars_n as_o regulars_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n the_o mayor_n or_o first_o proposition_n be_v evident_a for_o that_o all_o who_o be_v of_o the_o same_o art_n or_o trade_n or_o the_o same_o science_n or_o profession_n do_v agree_v in_o action_n function_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n and_o therefore_o lawyer_n agree_v in_o plead_v and_o give_v counsel_n physician_n be_v busy_v in_o prescribe_v and_o minister_a physic_n carpenter_n work_n in_o timber_n mason_n in_o stone_n etc._n etc._n 23._o the_o minor_a and_o second_o proposition_n to_o wit_n that_o regulars_n as_o regulars_n do_v differ_v in_o action_n function_n and_o manner_n of_o life_n i_o shall_v prove_v out_o of_o s._n 82._o amb._n l._n 9_o ep._n 82._o ambrose_n s._n chrysostome_n and_o other_o author_n of_o good_a authority_n and_o so_o the_o conclusion_n must_v follow_v s._n ambrose_n in_o a_o epistle_n to_o they_o of_o vercelles_n compare_v the_o state_n of_o the_o clergy_n with_o that_o of_o the_o regulars_n say_v namque_fw-la hac_fw-la duo_fw-la in_o attentiore_fw-la christianorum_fw-la devotione_fw-la praestantiora_fw-la esse_fw-la quis_fw-la ambigat_fw-la clericorum_fw-la officia_fw-la &_o monachorum_fw-la instituta_fw-la ista_fw-la ad_fw-la comitatem_fw-la &_o moralitatem_fw-la disciplina_fw-la illa_fw-la ad_fw-la abstinentiam_fw-la assuefacta_fw-la atque_fw-la patientiam_fw-la haec_fw-la velut_fw-la in_o quodam_fw-la theatro_fw-la ista_fw-la in_o secreto_fw-la spectatur_fw-la ista_fw-la illa_fw-la absconditur_fw-la who_o can_v doubt_v but_o that_o these_o two_o the_o office_n of_o clerk_n and_o the_o institute_n of_o monk_n be_v the_o more_o excel_v in_o the_o more_o attent_a devotion_n of_o christian_n this_o discipline_n of_o clerk_n accustom_v to_o humanity_n and_o morality_n that_o of_o regulars_n to_o abstinence_n and_o patience_n this_o the_o state_n of_o clerk_n be_v as_o in_o a_o theatre_n that_o in_o secret_a this_o be_v obvious_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n that_o be_v hide_v and_o a_o little_a after_o this_o life_n therefore_o of_o the_o clergy_n be_v in_o a_o race_n that_o in_o a_o den_n this_o against_o the_o confusion_n of_o the_o world_n that_o against_o the_o desire_n of_o the_o flesh_n this_o subdue_a that_o fly_v the_o pleasure_n of_o the_o body_n this_o more_o grate_n full_a that_o more_o secure_a this_o govern_v itself_o that_o restrain_v itself_o yet_o both_o deny_v themselves_o that_o they_o may_v be_v of_o christ_n because_o to_o the_o perfect_a it_o be_v say_v he_o that_o will_v come_v after_o i_o let_v he_o deny_v himself_o to_o himself_o and_o take_v his_o cross_n and_o follow_v i_o and_o again_o haec_fw-la ergo_fw-la dimicat_fw-la illa_fw-la se_fw-la removet_fw-la haec_fw-la illecebras_fw-la vincit_fw-la illa_fw-la refugit_fw-la huic_fw-la
mundus_fw-la triumphatur_fw-la illi_fw-la ignoratur_fw-la huic_fw-la plura_fw-la tentamenta_fw-la &_o ideo_fw-la maior_fw-la victoria_fw-la illi_fw-la infrequentior_fw-la lapsus_fw-la &_o facilior_fw-la custodia_fw-la this_o life_n therefore_o of_o priest_n fight_v that_o of_o regulars_n with_o draw_v itself_o from_o fight_n this_o overcom_v allurement_n that_o fly_v they_o to_o this_o life_n the_o world_n be_v triumph_v over_o to_o that_o it_o be_v banish_v to_o this_o life_n be_v incident_a more_o tentation_n and_o therefore_o great_a victory_n to_o that_o life_n of_o regulars_n seeldomer_n fall_v more_o easy_a custody_n 24._o s._n heliodorum_n ep._n ad_fw-la heliodorum_n hieron_n declare_v this_o difference_n of_o life_n thus_o alia_fw-la est_fw-la monachi_fw-la causa_fw-la alia_fw-la clericorum_fw-la clerici_fw-la pascunt_fw-la one_o ego_fw-la pascor_fw-la other_o be_v the_o cause_n of_o a_o monk_n other_o of_o clerk_n clerk_n feed_v the_o sheep_n to_o wit_n by_o preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n james_n feed_v 25._o possivine_a a_o jesuite_n out_o of_o diverse_a father_n who_o he_o cit_v in_o the_o margin_n 54._o possevin_n to_o 1._o l._n 5._o c._n 54._o gather_v these_o difference_n betwixt_o the_o life_n and_o function_n of_o priest_n and_o regulars_n alij_fw-la monastica_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la alij_fw-la vero_fw-la presbyterij_fw-la fine_n ac_fw-la diversa_fw-la penè_fw-la verinsque_fw-la status_fw-la olim_fw-la officia_fw-la extiterunt_fw-la monachorum_fw-la illa_fw-la propria_fw-la erant_fw-la iugis_fw-la oratio_fw-la psalmodia_fw-la vigiliae_fw-la etc._n etc._n other_o be_v the_o end_n of_o monastical_a life_n other_o of_o priesthood_n and_o almost_o diverse_a in_o time_n past_a be_v the_o office_n of_o both_o state_n these_o be_v the_o proper_a office_n of_o monk_n continual_a prayer_n sing_v of_o psalm_n watch_n fast_v and_o other_o exercise_n contemplation_n of_o divine_a thing_n and_o even_o the_o manner_n of_o live_v be_v distinct_a in_o diet_n clothe_v place_n from_o communication_n with_o other_o man_n according_a to_o the_o etymology_n of_o the_o name_n and_o dionysius_n areopagita_n when_o he_o have_v constitute_v monk_n above_o the_o people_n but_o under_o the_o clergy_n yet_o who_o for_o purity_n of_o life_n shall_v approach_v near_o to_o ecclesiastical_a function_n and_o have_v describe_v their_o life_n and_o state_n he_o testify_v that_o by_o the_o apostle_n they_o be_v call_v therapeutes_fw-gr of_o the_o lawful_a worship_n and_o contemplation_n of_o god_n to_o which_o one_o thing_n they_o whole_o dedicate_v themselves_o and_o be_v call_v monk_n of_o the_o undevided_a and_o singular_a or_o sole_a life_n which_o they_o profess_v and_o separate_v from_o other_o thing_n moreover_o the_o whole_a rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o monastical_a consecration_n which_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o s._n denys_n do_v design_n this_o secretion_n and_o separation_n and_o transformation_n into_o a_o sole_a life_n and_o contemplation_n of_o god_n there_o be_v extant_a of_o this_o thing_n many_o decree_n of_o the_o father_n in_o gratian_n and_o juo_n in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a we_o read_v the_o 61._o placuit_fw-la 1._o q._n 1._o c._n placuit_fw-la canon_n of_o the_o arabick_n that_o the_o conversation_n of_o monk_n according_a to_o their_o name_n shall_v be_v separate_v from_o the_o rest_n in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n cap._n 4._o the_o life_n of_o monk_n be_v define_v by_o prayer_n fast_v quietness_n and_o clausure_n or_o shut_v up_o and_o s._n hierome_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o riparius_n paulinus_n heliodorus_n rusticus_n and_o desiderius_fw-la teach_v that_o solitariness_n prayer_n without_o intermission_n watch_n labour_n of_o hand_n contemplation_n of_o divine_a thing_n and_o a_o penitent_a life_n by_o the_o apostolical_a institution_n altogether_o separate_v from_o other_o and_o according_a to_o the_o interpretation_n of_o the_o name_n sole_a or_o singular_a be_v proper_a to_o they_o that_o be_v to_o monk_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n chrysostomus_n also_o describe_v the_o institute_n of_o monk_n domusluctus_fw-la inquit_fw-la sunt_fw-la monasteria_fw-la ubi_fw-la cinis_fw-la aâ—que_fw-la cilicium_fw-la ubi_fw-la solitudo_fw-la ieiunia_fw-la terrenorum_fw-la duritia_fw-la lectulorum_fw-la nullae_fw-la ibi_fw-la perturbationes_fw-la nullae_fw-la curae_fw-la tranquillo_fw-la nempe_fw-la in_o portu_fw-la nanigant_fw-la alta_fw-la ibi_fw-la quies_fw-la &_o silentium_fw-la monastery_n say_v he_o be_v the_o house_n of_o mourning_n where_o be_v ash_n and_o hair_n cloth_n where_o be_v solitude_n fast_v the_o hardenes_n of_o earthly_a bid_v no_o perturbation_n there_o no_o care_n for_o they_o sail_v in_o a_o quiet_a haven_n there_o be_v great_a rest_n and_o silence_n but_o say_v possevine_a these_o be_v the_o propter_fw-mi office_n of_o presbyter_n and_o religious_a priest_n of_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n to_o employ_v themselves_o for_o the_o salvation_n of_o man_n as_o god_n his_o coadioutor_n to_o edify_v other_o by_o discipline_n of_o manner_n doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n exemplar_n life_n and_o prayer_n to_o profit_v the_o people_n to_o be_v brief_a as_o by_o dionysius_n it_o be_v deliver_v to_o purge_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v other_o which_o be_v the_o proper_a action_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n thus_o far_o possevinus_n 26._o the_o mayor_n then_o and_o minor_a proposition_n be_v prove_v the_o conclusion_n do_v follow_v in_o good_a consequence_n to_o wit_n that_o regulars_n who_o have_v so_o different_a a_o manner_n of_o live_v from_o bishop_n priest_n and_o other_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n who_o by_o all_o man_n confession_n and_o by_o the_o aforesaid_a definition_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o who_o agree_v not_o with_o they_o in_o any_o hierarchiall_a action_n and_o function_n which_o consist_v in_o purge_v illuminate_v and_o perfect_v by_o preach_v and_o administration_n of_o sacrament_n be_v not_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n in_o the_o sense_n and_o meaning_n in_o which_o s._n denys_n and_o his_o translatour_n and_o interpreter_n do_v take_v the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n though_o they_o be_v by_o they_o place_v above_o the_o laity_n next_o to_o the_o clergy_n and_o be_v of_o they_o and_o all_o good_a catholic_n esteem_v as_o worthy_a and_o eminent_a member_n of_o the_o church_n ornament_n and_o aid_n unto_o it_o 27._o by_o this_o all_o that_o m._n nicholas_n allege_v out_o of_o s._n denys_n himself_o and_o other_o author_n be_v answer_v for_o that_o s._n denys_n will_v not_o be_v find_v contrary_a to_o himself_o and_o other_o autour_n as_o m._n nicholas_n true_o confess_v n._n 1_o have_v from_o he_o the_o beeâ—_n and_o almost_o only_o treatise_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n but_o yet_o lest_o he_o or_o some_o for_o he_o may_v imagine_v that_o i_o mention_v not_o his_o objection_n because_o i_o can_v not_o solve_v they_o i_o shall_v set_v they_o down_o m._n nicholas_n and_o first_o of_o all_o it_o can_v not_o be_v deny_v but_o that_o the_o name_n of_o hierarchy_n have_v a_o latitude_n for_o if_o it_o have_v not_o i_o demand_v whether_o it_o signifi_v only_a order_n or_o jurisdiction_n etc._n etc._n n._n 3._o the_o reply_n the_o hierarchy_n comprehend_v both_o other_o and_o jurisdiction_n 28._o to_o this_o he_o may_v have_v find_v his_o answer_n in_o m._n doctor_n hierarchy_n in_o the_o 8._o chapter_n n._n 2._o and_o 6._o where_o he_o be_v tell_v that_o both_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n do_v make_v man_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n for_o if_o we_o sprake_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n say_v m._n doctor_n n._n 2._o as_o it_o import_v distinction_n of_o degree_n in_o power_n of_o order_n then_o only_a bishop_n priest_n and_o they_o who_o have_v some_o order_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o they_o only_o in_o this_o sense_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o in_o this_o same_o 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bishop_n deacòn_n etc._n etc._n shall_v not_o be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n till_o they_o be_v make_v pastor_n this_o dilemma_n be_v vain_a and_o frivolous_a for_o that_o the_o hierarchy_n as_o i_o say_v
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if_o he_o have_v say_v that_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o church_n be_v perturb_v when_o abbot_n be_v subtract_v from_o the_o bishop_n jurisdiction_n whereas_o s._n bernard_n in_o the_o very_a same_o place_n which_o m._n doctor_n cite_v do_v in_o express_a word_n approve_v the_o exemption_n of_o abbot_n from_o bishop_n and_o only_o dislike_v exemption_n procure_v out_o of_o a_o spirit_n of_o disobedience_n pride_n and_o ambition_n whereas_o i_o say_v he_o say_v he_o have_v reason_n to_o complain_v on_o m._n doctor_n it_o will_v prove_v that_o m._n doctor_n have_v reason_n to_o complain_v on_o he_o in_o make_v he_o say_v more_o than_o he_o do_v for_o do_v not_o s._n bernard_n say_v as_o much_o as_o m._n doctor_n impute_v to_o he_o do_v he_o not_o complain_v in_o that_o chapter_n that_o the_o order_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v then_o perturb_v by_o exemption_n have_v he_o not_o these_o complain_v word_n subtrahuntur_fw-la abbates_n episcopis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la archiepiscopis_fw-la 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you_o he_o speak_v to_o pope_n eugenius_n prove_v that_o you_o have_v the_o fullness_n of_o power_n but_o perchance_o not_o so_o of_o justice_n you_o do_v this_o because_o you_o can_v but_o whether_o you_o shall_v there_o be_v a_o question_n wherefore_o if_o s._n bernard_n in_o speak_v thus_o much_o against_o exemption_n to_o wit_n which_o have_v no_o lawful_a cause_n do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o pope_n have_v power_n and_o just_a cause_n to_o exempte_v abbot_n and_o monastery_n from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n much_o less_o can_v m._n nicholas_n infer_v against_o m._n doctor_n who_o say_v not_o so_o much_o as_o he_o that_o he_o be_v against_o all_o exemption_n but_o as_o s._n bernard_n for_o all_o those_o word_n do_v allow_v of_o exemption_n when_o there_o be_v just_a cause_n as_o when_o a_o monastery_n from_o the_o beginning_n have_v be_v exempte_n so_o might_n m._n doctor_n and_o so_o he_o do_v m._n nicholas_n mauclerus_n also_o who_o m._n doctor_n in_o his_o 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not_o order_n but_o dignity_n and_o jurisdiction_n byr_o if_o we_o speak_v say_v he_o n._n 6._o of_o a_o hierarchy_n as_o it_o import_v a_o distinction_n of_o degree_n in_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o dignity_n etc._n etc._n in_o this_o respect_n there_o be_v diverse_a order_n and_o degree_n amongst_o bishop_n which_o make_v also_o a_o kind_n of_o hierarchy_n etc._n etc._n to_o wit_n patriarch_n or_o primate_fw-la archbishop_n and_o bishop_n and_o heretofore_o patriarch_n be_v of_o the_o high_a rank_n of_o bishop_n and_o amongst_o they_o the_o patriarch_n of_o rome_n alexandria_n and_o antioch_n and_o after_o ward_n of_o constantinople_n have_v the_o precedence_n after_o who_o follow_v archbishop_n and_o bishop_n but_o now_o cardinal_n and_o ever_o since_o they_o be_v counsellor_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o
electour_n take_v place_n of_o all_o patriarch_n and_o be_v in_o dignity_n next_o to_o the_o pope_n and_o so_o cardinal_n though_o they_o have_v no_o order_n as_o most_o of_o they_o have_v holy_a order_n yea_o many_o of_o they_o be_v bishop_n yet_o in_o this_o respect_n to_o wit_n as_o the_o hierarchy_n consist_v of_o diverse_a degree_n in_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o dignity_n which_o be_v the_o second_o way_n by_o which_o m._n doctor_n say_v that_o man_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n be_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n and_o above_o bishop_n archbishop_n and_o patriarch_n next_o to_o the_o pope_n now_o whether_o this_o their_o dignity_n of_o cardinal_n be_v of_o the_o divine_a law_n as_o turrecremata_fw-la think_v or_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a law_n i_o will_v not_o dispute_v but_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o m._n doctor_n ten_o chapter_n certain_a at_o least_o it_o be_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v institute_v such_o a_o dignity_n by_o which_o the_o cardinal_n though_o not_o in_o 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