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power_n as_o christ_n have_v and_o he_o that_o doubt_v of_o their_o right_n herein_o may_v as_o well_o doubt_v whether_o christ_n have_v authority_n as_o man_n to_o remit_v sin_n rhemist_n annot_v john_n 20._o sect_n 3._o and_o again_o they_o call_v it_o a_o express_a power_n and_o commission_n yea_o a_o wonderful_a power_n which_o be_v give_v unto_o priest_n to_o remit_v sin_n and_o therefore_o it_o follow_v necessary_o that_o man_n shall_v submit_v themselves_o to_o their_o judgement_n for_o release_v of_o their_o sin_n annot._n john_n 20._o sect_n 5._o 1_o they_o reason_n thus_o out_o of_o our_o saviour_n own_o word_n john_n 20.21_o as_o my_o father_n have_v send_v i_o so_o i_o send_v you_o he_o show_v his_o father_n commission_n give_v to_o himself_o and_o then_o in_o plain_a term_n most_o ample_o impart_v the_o same_o to_o his_o apostle_n but_o christ_n have_v full_a right_n to_o remit_v sin_n ergo_fw-la also_o the_o apostle_n and_o their_o successor_n for_o they_o have_v the_o 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the_o will_n of_o god_n not_o proper_o in_o their_o own_o power_n to_o release_v or_o absolve_v sinner_n 2_o he_o breathe_v upon_o they_o and_o give_v they_o the_o holy_a ghost_n vers_n 22._o therefore_o he_o that_o deni_v the_o priest_n authority_n to_o forgive_v sin_n he_o must_v deny_v the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o be_v god_n and_o not_o to_o have_v power_n to_o remit_v sin_n rhem._n ibid._n sect_n 4._o ans._n what_o a_o blasphemous_a consequence_n be_v this_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v absolute_a power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n ergo_fw-la the_o apostle_n also_o and_o all_o other_o priest_n have_v the_o same_o power_n first_o by_o this_o mean_v they_o make_v no_o difference_n between_o the_o fullness_n of_o power_n in_o our_o saviour_n christ_n and_o the_o communication_n of_o that_o power_n to_o other_o minister_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o
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another_o man_n servant_n he_o stand_v or_o fall_v to_o his_o own_o master_n rom._n 14.4_o no_o man_n can_v judge_v whether_o the_o servant_n stand_v or_o fall_v but_o his_o master_n ergo_fw-la if_o the_o church_n presume_v to_o determine_v of_o the_o election_n or_o damnation_n of_o those_o that_o be_v depart_v she_o be_v now_o a_o mistress_n and_o lady_n rather_o of_o the_o saint_n than_o they_o lord_n or_o patroness_n to_o she_o as_o the_o papist_n hold_v they_o be_v argum._n 2_o judge_v not_o say_v s._n paul_n 1._o corinth_n 4.5_o before_o the_o time_n until_o the_o lord_n come_v the_o judgement_n then_o of_o man_n who_o be_v save_v and_o who_o be_v condemn_v be_v reserve_v for_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n therefore_o it_o be_v great_a presumption_n for_o man_n to_o prevent_v the_o time_n and_o to_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o be_v judge_n in_o god_n place_n again_o our_o saviour_n christ_n say_v that_o to_o sit_v at_o his_o right_a hand_n or_o leave_v in_o his_o kingdom_n be_v not_o he_o to_o give_v mean_v as_o he_o be_v man_n but_o it_o shall_v be_v give_v to_o they_o for_o who_o it_o be_v prepare_v of_o my_o father_n math._n 20.23_o how_o then_o be_v it_o in_o the_o power_n of_o any_o sinful_a man_n to_o give_v unto_o any_o a_o seat_n either_o at_o the_o right_a hand_n or_o leave_v hand_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n argument_n gualther_n bruti_fw-la fox_n page_n 487._o augustine_n also_o consent_v non_fw-la separatio_fw-la iam_fw-la cuique_fw-la tuta_fw-la est_fw-la illius_fw-la erit_fw-la separatio_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la novit_fw-la errare_fw-la nos_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la vita_fw-la difficile_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la nos_fw-la ipsos_fw-la noverimus_fw-la quantò_fw-la minùs_fw-la debemus_fw-la de_fw-la quoquam_fw-la praeproperam_fw-la far_o sententiam_fw-la it_o be_v not_o safe_a for_o man_n now_o to_o make_v separation_n of_o the_o good_a and_o bad_a it_o belong_v to_o he_o that_o can_v not_o err_v we_o in_o this_o life_n do_v hardly_o know_v ourselves_o how_o much_o less_o ought_v we_o to_o judge_v rash_o of_o other_o expose_o in_o psalm_n 139._o here_o be_v two_o reason_n give_v why_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o man_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o election_n or_o reprobation_n of_o man_n first_o their_o judgement_n be_v subject_a to_o error_n and_o therefore_o the_o matter_n must_v be_v refer_v to_o god_n who_o err_v not_o second_o we_o can_v not_o judge_v ourselves_o much_o less_o can_v we_o judge_v of_o other_o ergo_fw-la no_o man_n live_v ought_v or_o be_v able_a to_o define_v either_o who_o be_v saint_n in_o heaven_n or_o who_o be_v damn_v in_o hell_n a_o appendix_n or_o three_o part_n of_o other_o circumstance_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o canonise_a of_o saint_n the_o papist_n they_o say_v that_o it_o do_v appertain_v only_o to_o the_o pope_n to_o canonize_v a_o saint_n for_o error_n 24_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o none_o ought_v to_o be_v acknowledge_v for_o saint_n but_o they_o that_o be_v so_o canonize_v 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5._o 4._o and_o to_o cut_v off_o the_o profane_a and_o wicked_a from_o the_o church_n of_o god_n as_o heathen_a and_o publican_n math._n 18.17_o ergo_fw-la to_o judge_v who_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o saint_n of_o god_n be_v a_o matter_n which_o appertain_v to_o the_o whole_a church_n 3_o before_o anno._n 800._o in_o the_o time_n of_o carolus_n magnus_fw-la there_o be_v no_o saint_n public_o canonize_v by_o the_o pope_n as_o bellarm._n confess_v but_o the_o truth_n be_v this_o custom_n of_o canonise_a saint_n begin_v not_o till_o more_o than_o 1000_o year_n after_o christ_n till_o alexander_n the_o 3._o his_o time_n and_o gregory_n the_o 7._o i_o pray_v you_o then_o be_v there_o no_o saint_n before_o if_o there_o be_v who_o canonize_v they_o second_o so_o much_o as_o be_v to_o be_v know_v of_o saint_n and_o holy_a man_n every_o christian_a be_v to_o acknowledge_v without_o any_o public_a decree_n or_o determination_n of_o the_o pope_n or_o any_o other_o for_o the_o word_n 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christ._n three_o whether_o the_o eucharist_n remain_v a_o sacrament_n after_o the_o use_n and_o celebration_n four_o of_o the_o outward_a element_n in_o this_o sacrament_n five_o of_o the_o word_n of_o consecration_n six_o of_o the_o proper_a effect_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n seventh_o of_o the_o manner_n of_o celebrate_v it_o eight_o whether_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v minister_v in_o one_o kind_n nine_o whether_o it_o be_v to_o be_v adore_v the_o first_o question_n concern_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o papist_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n by_o error_n 113_o the_o efficacy_n of_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n speak_v by_o the_o priest_n be_v real_o very_o and_o substantial_o present_a the_o natural_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n articul_fw-la which_o be_v conceive_v of_o the_o virgin_n marie_n the_o same_o body_n that_o be_v now_o in_o heaven_n rhemist_n mat._n 26._o sect_n 4._o
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speak_v of_o war_n trouble_n and_o persecution_n but_o the_o end_n shall_v not_o be_v yet_o mark_n 13.7_o wherefore_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o trouble_n and_o persecution_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v well_o slake_v towards_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n argum._n 2._o antichrist_n though_o he_o shall_v not_o utter_o be_v extinguish_v before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n yet_o shall_v be_v deadly_o wound_v and_o he_o shall_v begin_v to_o be_v judge_v even_o in_o this_o world_n apocal._n 16.6_o god_n shall_v give_v they_o blood_n to_o drink_v apocal._n 17.16_o the_o ten_o horn_n that_o be_v the_o king_n of_o the_o earth_n shall_v hate_v the_o whore_n and_o eat_v her_o flesh_n the_o church_n of_o god_n shall_v reward_v she_o as_o she_o have_v reward_v we_o and_o give_v her_o double_a according_a to_o her_o work_n apocal._n 18.6_o by_o these_o place_n it_o be_v gather_v that_o antichrist_n shall_v have_v a_o great_a overthrow_n before_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n who_o shall_v 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the_o last_o day_n john_n 12.48_o that_o be_v shall_v be_v a_o witness_n against_o they_o accuse_v they_o lay_v in_o matter_n of_o judgement_n against_o they_o so_o the_o word_n preach_v by_o the_o saint_n upon_o earth_n and_o practise_v in_o their_o life_n shall_v be_v the_o condemnation_n of_o the_o world_n and_o not_o only_o so_o but_o they_o shall_v be_v advance_v to_o great_a honour_n they_o shall_v sit_v in_o throne_n and_o seat_n that_o be_v they_o shall_v not_o stand_v among_o the_o wicked_a to_o receive_v sentence_n but_o shall_v meet_v christ_n in_o the_o air_n and_o be_v catch_v up_o in_o the_o cloud_n 1._o thess._n 4.17_o yea_o they_o shall_v in_o the_o sight_n and_o behold_v of_o the_o ungodly_a enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n luk._n 13.28_o but_o in_o any_o other_o sense_n they_o can_v be_v judge_n of_o the_o world_n for_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o christ_n in_o that_o day_n shall_v need_v under_o officer_n and_o judge_n as_o moses_n do_v exod._n â—8_o augustine_n say_v sancti_fw-la sedebunt_fw-la cum_fw-la domino_fw-la attendere_fw-la 121_o qui_fw-la fecerunt_fw-la misericordiaâ—â—_n the_o saint_n shall_v â—it_n with_o the_o lord_n not_o to_o judge_v but_o to_o mark_v and_o attend_v and_o to_o witness_v who_o have_v follow_v the_o work_n of_o mercy_n the_o papist_n 2_o they_o be_v so_o bold_a as_o to_o appoint_v the_o place_n where_o christ_n shall_v appear_v namely_o error_n 110_o in_o the_o east_n for_o his_o come_n shall_v be_v as_o the_o lightning_n that_o shine_v from_o east_n to_o west_n matth._n 24.27_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr cultu_fw-la sanctor_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 3._o the_o protestant_n ans._n first_o by_o that_o similitude_n christ_n only_o show_v the_o suddenness_n of_o his_o come_n therefore_o it_o must_v be_v press_v no_o further_o then_o to_o that_o purpose_n for_o the_o which_o it_o serve_v second_o our_o saviour_n say_v plain_o that_o the_o
the_o prosecute_n whereof_o if_o sometime_o i_o chance_v to_o miss_v i_o say_v with_o augustine_n nunquam_fw-la errari_fw-la tutius_fw-la existimo_fw-la quà m_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o amore_fw-la nimio_fw-la veritatis_fw-la 1._o &_o reiectione_n nimia_fw-la falsitatis_fw-la erratur_fw-la i_o think_v a_o man_n can_v never_o more_o safe_o err_v then_o when_o he_o err_v in_o the_o too_o much_o love_n of_o the_o truth_n and_o the_o reject_v of_o falsehood_n i_o have_v labour_v in_o this_o work_n to_o set_v down_o not_o only_o the_o chief_a and_o principal_a but_o even_o the_o most_o and_o in_o a_o manner_n all_o the_o controversy_n of_o religion_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n maintain_v this_o day_n if_o any_o thing_n be_v miss_v i_o say_v again_o with_o augustine_n tale_n esse_fw-la arbitratus_fw-la sum_fw-la cvi_fw-la mea_fw-la responsio_fw-la necessaria_fw-la non_fw-la fuisset_fw-la sive_fw-la quia_fw-la ad_fw-la rem_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la agitur_fw-la non_fw-la pertinet_fw-la 27_o sive_fw-la quod_fw-la tam_fw-la leave_v esset_fw-la ut_fw-la à _fw-la quolibet_fw-la redargui_fw-la facillimè_fw-la posset_n i_o think_v it_o to_o be_v such_o as_o unto_o the_o which_o my_o answer_n be_v not_o needful_a either_o because_o it_o be_v not_o pertinent_a to_o the_o matter_n in_o hand_n or_o else_o of_o so_o small_a moment_n that_o every_o man_n may_v easy_o answer_v unto_o it_o i_o have_v no_o more_o to_o say_v but_o this_o if_o thou_o find_v thyself_o any_o thing_n profit_v or_o help_v good_a christian_a reader_n by_o these_o simple_a labour_n of_o i_o give_v god_n the_o praise_n and_o i_o will_v praise_v he_o with_o thou_o but_o one_o thing_n let_v i_o pray_v thou_o quisquis_fw-la legis_fw-la nihil_fw-la reprehendas_fw-la august_n nisi_fw-la cum_fw-la totum_fw-la perlegeris_fw-la atque_fw-la ita_fw-la forte_fw-fr minus_fw-la reprehend_v whosoever_o read_v in_o this_o book_n reprehend_v nothing_o before_o thou_o have_v read_v the_o whole_a and_o so_o perhaps_o thou_o will_v be_v more_o spare_v in_o rephend_v the_o lord_n give_v we_o all_o grace_n to_o love_v the_o truth_n that_o they_o which_o know_v it_o may_v live_v thereafter_o and_o they_o which_o as_o yet_o know_v it_o not_o may_v seek_v for_o it_o and_o we_o all_o may_v embrace_v the_o counsel_n of_o the_o wise_a man_n to_o buy_v the_o truth_n but_o in_o no_o wise_a to_o sell_v it_o that_o be_v by_o all_o possible_a mean_n to_o labour_v for_o it_o and_o have_v attain_v thereunto_o for_o no_o earthly_a respect_n for_o fear_n or_o favour_n to_o depart_v from_o it_o the_o lord_n god_n jesus_n christ_n jehovah_n emmanuel_n our_o bless_a saviour_n and_o redeemer_n who_o be_v the_o way_n the_o truth_n and_o the_o life_n give_v we_o of_o his_o heavenly_a grace_n that_o we_o may_v walk_v obedient_o in_o his_o way_n and_o constant_o profess_v his_o truth_n that_o in_o the_o end_n he_o may_v bring_v we_o to_o eternal_a life_n amen_n soli_fw-la deo_fw-la immortali_fw-la patri_fw-la filio_fw-la cum_fw-la spiritu_fw-la sancto_fw-la sit_fw-la omnis_fw-la honour_n &_o gloria_fw-la a_o particular_a index_n or_o table_n of_o all_o the_o controversy_n with_o their_o several_a question_n contain_v in_o this_o treatise_n the_o content_n of_o the_o first_o book_n this_o book_n contain_v seven_o controversy_n the_o first_o controversy_n of_o the_o scripture_n have_v seven_o question_n 1._o quest_n of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 2._o 2._o of_o the_o authentical_a edition_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 12._o 3._o of_o the_o vulgar_a translation_n of_o scripture_n and_o of_o public_a prayer_n in_o the_o vulgar_a tongue_n pag._n 16._o 4._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 20._o 5._o of_o the_o perspicuity_n and_o plainness_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 23._o 6._o of_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n 3._o part_n 1._o of_o the_o diverse_a sense_n of_o scripture_n pag._n 26._o 2._o who_o ought_v to_o expound_v scripture_n pag._n 28._o 3._o of_o the_o manner_n of_o expound_v scripture_n pag._n 30._o 7._o of_o the_o perfection_n of_o scripture_n 3._o part_n 1._o whether_o the_o scripture_n be_v absolute_o necessary_a p._n 33._o 2._o whether_o they_o be_v sufficient_a pag._n 35._o 3._o of_o unwritten_a tradition_n beside_o scripture_n pag._n 38._o the_o second_o general_a controversy_n concern_v the_o church_n contain_v five_o question_n 1._o quest_n of_o the_o definition_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o part_n 1._o whether_o wicked_a man_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 43._o 2._o whether_o the_o church_n be_v invisible_a pag._n 46._o 2._o whether_o the_o church_n may_v err_v 2._o part_n 1._o whether_o the_o catholic_a church_n may_v err_v at_o all_o or_o not_o pag._n 49._o 2._o whether_o the_o visible_a church_n upon_o earth_n may_v fall_v into_o idolatry_n or_o apostasy_n pag._n 52._o 3._o of_o the_o note_n and_o mark_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o antiquity_n pag._n 55_o 2._o universality_n pag._n 57_o 3._o succession_n pag._n 59_o 4._o unity_n pag._n 60_o 5._o miracle_n pag._n 63_o 6._o the_o gift_n of_o prophesy_v pag._n 66_o 4._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o part_n 1._o what_o authority_n it_o have_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o whether_o we_o be_v to_o believe_v in_o the_o church_n pag._n 73_o 2._o of_o the_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 76_o 5._o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n two_o part_n 1._o whether_o it_o be_v the_o catholic_a church_n pag._n 78_o 2._o whether_o it_o be_v a_o true_a visible_a church_n pag._n 79_o the_o three_o controversy_n of_o general_a counsel_n contain_v eight_o question_n 1._o quest_n whether_o counsel_n be_v absolute_o necessary_a pag._n 81_o 2._o by_o who_o general_a counsel_n ought_v to_o be_v summon_v pag._n 83_o 3._o of_o what_o person_n counsel_n ought_v to_o consist_v pag._n 84_o 4._o who_o ought_v to_o be_v the_o precedent_n in_o counsel_n pag._n 88_o 5._o whether_o counsel_n may_v err_v or_o not_o pag._n 90_o 6._o of_o the_o authority_n of_o counsel_n pag._n 93_o 7._o whether_o they_o be_v above_o the_o pope_n pag._n 95_o 8_o of_o the_o condition_n requisite_a in_o general_a counsel_n pag._n 98_o the_o four_o controversy_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n call_v the_o pope_n ten_o question_n 1._o whether_o the_o regiment_n of_o the_o church_n be_v monarchical_a pag._n 100_o 2._o whether_o peter_n be_v prince_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o assign_v by_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 105_o 3._o of_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n two_o part_n 1._o whether_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n pag._n 112_o 2._o whether_o peter_n be_v bishop_n of_o rome_n pag._n 116_o 4._o whether_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o true_a successor_n of_o peter_n pag._n 118_o 5_o of_o the_o primacy_n of_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n six_o part_n 1._o whether_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v above_o other_o bishop_n pag._n 120_o 2._o concern_v appeal_v make_v to_o rome_n pag._n 122_o 3._o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o any_o pag._n 124_o 4._o whether_o the_o pope_n may_v be_v depose_v from_o his_o papacy_n pag._n 125_o 5._o the_o original_n of_o the_o primacy_n of_o rome_n p._n 128_o 6._o of_o the_o name_n and_o title_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n pag._n 131_o 6._o quest_n whether_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n as_o likewise_o whether_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v err_v pag._n 134_o 7._o quest_n of_o the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o pope_n two_o part_n 1._o whether_o he_o may_v make_v law_n to_o bind_v the_o conscience_n pag._n 141_o 2._o whether_o all_o bishop_n do_v receive_v their_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n from_o the_o pope_n p._n 145_o 8_o of_o the_o temporal_a jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n two_o part_n 1_o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v above_o king_n and_o emperor_n pag._n 148_o 2_o whether_o he_o be_v a_o temporal_a prince_n pag._n 151_o 9_o of_o the_o pope_n prerogative_n 3._o part_n 1_o of_o his_o power_n dispensative_a pag._n 154_o 2_o of_o his_o power_n exemptive_a ibid._n 3_o of_o his_o power_n transcendent_a ibid._n 10._o of_o antichrist_n 9_o part_n 1_o whether_o antichrist_n shall_v be_v one_o particular_a man_n pag._n 155_o 2_o whether_o antichrist_n be_v yet_o come_v and_o how_o long_o he_o shall_v reign_v pag._n 157_o 3_o concern_v the_o name_n &_o character_n of_o antichrist_n p._n 162_o 4_o of_o the_o generation_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 168_o 5_o of_o the_o seat_n and_o place_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 169_o 6_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 172_o 7_o the_o miracle_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 176_o 8_o the_o war_n and_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n pag._n 179_o 9_o whether_o the_o pope_n be_v antichrist_n pag._n 182_o the_o five_o controversy_n of_o the_o clergy_n six_o question_n 1._o quest_n of_o the_o name_n of_o clerk_n or_o clergy_n man_n pag._n 190_o 2_o of_o the_o election_n of_o bishop_n and_o