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nowm_fw-la aliquid_fw-la &_o insolens_fw-la animo_fw-la svo_fw-la concepit_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o we_o suffer_v every_o hedie_n and_o brainless_a fellow_n so_o soon_o as_o he_o have_v conceyve_v any_o new_a thing_n in_o his_o mind_n to_o publish_v
not_o new_a but_o renew_v no_o stranger_n but_o bear_v in_o zion_n whereunto_o it_o be_v before_o unjust_o banish_v ought_v now_o of_o right_a to_o be_v restore_v io._n whitgifte_n snre_o the_o offence_n be_v take_v both_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n and_o of_o the_o cause_n neither_o be_v either_o the_o person_n or_o the_o cause_n charge_v with_o any_o thing_n by_o i_o but_o i_o be_o ready_a either_o to_o prove_v it_o or_o to_o retract_v it_o the_o antiquity_n of_o it_o and_o the_o strangeness_n we_o must_v refer_v to_o be_v judge_v of_o the_o reader_n when_o we_o have_v both_o write_v what_o we_o can_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n i_o suppose_v that_o your_o devise_n with_o the_o circumstance_n will_v appear_v not_o only_o not_o to_o be_v ancient_a but_o very_o strange_a and_o late_o devise_v although_o in_o such_o matter_n antiquity_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v a_o thing_n convenient_a except_o it_o agree_v with_o the_o circumstance_n of_o time_n place_n and_o person_n 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to_o order_n preserve_v peace_n keep_v every_o man_n in_o his_o degree_n and_o calling_n and_o true_o if_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n now_o allow_v by_o public_a authority_n be_v compare_v with_o your_o new_a devise_a policy_n the_o difference_n of_o they_o both_o will_v easy_o appear_v for_o i_o pray_v you_o tell_v i_o how_o many_o of_o you_o which_o have_v be_v permit_v as_o vernment_n the_o admonitor_n agree_v not_o in_o their_o go_n vernment_n preacher_n in_o several_a place_n have_v consent_v in_o one_o kind_n of_o government_n nay_o which_o of_o you_o have_v not_o trouble_v not_o only_o the_o town_n where_o you_o have_v remain_v but_o the_o whole_a country_n reunde_v about_o also_o so_o that_o undoubted_o though_o you_o be_v not_o anabaptist_n as_o i_o hope_v you_o be_v not_o yet_o do_v this_o property_n of_o they_o most_o apt_o agree_v unto_o you_o that_o whersoever_o you_o come_v you_o make_v contention_n and_o kindle_v the_o fire_n of_o discord_n take_v it_o as_o you_o listen_v experience_n do_v teach_v it_o to_o be_v so_o whether_o we_o confound_v the_o pastor_n office_n with_o the_o deacon_n or_o no_o otherwise_o than_o it_o have_v be_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o primative_a church_n whether_o private_a man_n woman_n civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a person_n do_v more_o than_o they_o ought_v to_o do_v or_o no_o to_o be_v short_a whether_o order_n according_a to_o the_o true_a nature_n and_o definition_n thereof_o be_v observe_v or_o no_o i_o shall_v have_v better_a occasion_n hereafter_o to_o discuss_v now_o my_o meaning_n be_v to_o answer_v word_n with_o word_n although_o in_o no_o such_o deride_v and_o opprobrious_a manner_n the_o epist._n of_o t._n c._n sect._n 4._o for_o the_o third_o point_n which_o be_v that_o it_o be_v a_o enemy_n to_o magistrate_n and_o the_o common_a wealth_n if_o it_o be_v enough_o to_o accuse_v without_o proof_n say_v and_o to_o show_v no_o reason_n innocence_n itself_o shall_v not_o be_v guiltless_a this_o doctrine_n be_v in_o time_n past_a even_o by_o their_o confession_n which_o write_v against_o it_o a_o friend_n unto_o prince_n and_o magistrate_n when_o prince_n and_o magistrate_n be_v enemy_n unto_o it_o and_o can_v it_o now_o be_v a_o enemy_n unto_o prince_n and_o magistrate_n which_o be_v friend_n unto_o it_o it_o help_v and_o uphold_v the_o common_a wealth_n which_o be_v govern_v by_o tyrant_n and_o can_v it_o hynder_n those_o which_o be_v govern_v by_o godly_a prince_n and_o in_o what_o be_v it_o a_o enemy_n to_o prince_n and_o magistrate_n note_v the_o variance_n set_v down_o the_o enmity_n if_o the_o question_n be_v whether_o prince_n and_o magistrate_n be_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n it_o hold_v that_o the_o use_n of_o they_o be_v more_o than_o of_o the_o sun_n without_o the_o which_o the_o world_n can_v not_o stand_v if_o it_o be_v of_o their_o honour_n it_o hold_v that_o with_o humble_a submission_n of_o mind_n the_o outward_a also_o of_o the_o body_n yea_o the_o 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of_o so_o many_o good_a king_n so_o many_o hundred_o year_n to_o have_v omit_v the_o feast_n of_o tabernacle_n express_o by_o god_n command_v although_o i_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o such_o man_n also_o may_v sometime_o be_v overséene_a in_o some_o point_n but_o neither_o can_v you_o prove_v that_o they_o be_v deceive_v in_o any_o substantial_a point_n of_o doctrine_n neither_o yet_o if_o they_o be_v be_v this_o place_n apt_o or_o true_o allege_v the_o epistle_n of_o t._n c._n sect._n 8._o the_o dignity_n also_o and_o high_a estate_n of_o those_o which_o be_v not_o so_o earnest_a in_o this_o cause_n can_v not_o hinder_v it_o if_o we_o consider_v the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n almost_o from_o time_n to_o time_n to_o consist_v and_o to_o show_v itself_o most_o in_o set_v forth_o his_o truth_n by_o the_o simple_a and_o weak_a sort_n by_o contemptible_a and_o weak_a instrument_n i._n 1._o cor._n i._n by_o thing_n of_o no_o value_n to_o the_o end_n that_o when_o all_o man_n see_v the_o baseness_n and_o rudeness_n of_o the_o instrument_n they_o may_v the_o more_o wonder_n at_o the_o wisdom_n and_o power_n of_o the_o artificer_n which_o with_o so_o weak_a and_o foolish_a instrument_n bring_v to_o pass_v so_o wise_a and_o mighty_a thing_n and_o if_o man_n will_v with_o such_o a_o eye_n of_o fiesh_n look_v upon_o matter_n they_o shall_v condemn_v that_o excellent_a reformation_n make_v under_o the_o godly_a king_n ezechias_n king_n josias_n be_v here_o allege_v for_o ezechias_n josias_n which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v so_o high_o commend_v in_o which_o it_o be_v witness_v that_o the_o interpret_v the_o this_o place_n be_v not_o right_o interpret_v levite_n chro._n 2._o chro._n which_o be_v a_o degree_n under_o the_o priest_n be_v more_o forward_o and_o more_o zealous_a than_o the_o priest_n chap._n 29._o chap._n themselves_o yea_o wherein_o it_o be_v witness_v that_o the_o people_n be_v yet_o more_o earnest_a and_o more_o willing_a chro._n 2._o chro._n than_o either_o the_o 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of_o one_o man_n over_o sundry_a church_n yea_o over_o many_o shire_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 116._o sect._n 1._o 2._o i_o have_v prove_v before_o in_o my_o answer_n to_o your_o 13._o &_o 14._o reason_n that_o this_o lordship_n of_o one_o man_n as_o you_o term_v it_o but_o in_o deed_n lawful_a jurisdiction_n over_o sundry_a church_n be_v not_o the_o invention_n of_o any_o pope_n but_o of_o great_a antiquity_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n allow_v by_o that_o famous_a council_n of_o nice_a &_o practise_v since_o of_o most_o godly_a and_o learned_a father_n in_o the._n 9_o canon_n council_n antioch_n it_o be_v thus_o write_v per_fw-la singulas_fw-la regiones_fw-la episcopos_fw-la convenit_fw-la nosse_fw-la metropolitanum_n episcopum_fw-la solicitudinem_fw-la totius_fw-la provinciae_fw-la gerere_fw-la propter_fw-la quod_fw-la ad_fw-la metropolim_fw-la omnes_fw-la undique_fw-la qui_fw-la negotia_fw-la videntur_fw-la habere_fw-la concurrant_fw-la undè_fw-la placuit_fw-la 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sect._n 4._o 5._o in_o the._n 116._o page_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o archbishop_n be_v allege_v the._n 9_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n which_o i_o have_v before_o allege_v to_o prove_v how_o far_o different_a the_o authority_n of_o the_o metropolitan_a in_o those_o time_n be_v from_o that_o which_o be_v now_o for_o there_o the_o council_n show_v that_o every_o bishop_n in_o his_o diocese_n have_v the_o order_n of_o all_o the_o matter_n within_o the_o circuit_n thereof_o &_o therefore_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o council_n to_o be_v that_o if_o there_o be_v any_o affair_n that_o touch_v the_o whole_a church_n in_o any_o land_n that_o the_o bishop_n shall_v do_v nothing_o without_o make_v the_o metropolitan_a privy_a as_o also_o the_o metropolitan_a may_v do_v nothing_o without_o make_v the_o other_o bishop_n a_o counsel_n of_o that_o which_o he_o attempt_v which_o m._n doctor_n do_v clean_o leave_v out_o and_o if_o this_o authority_n which_o the_o council_n 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the_o which_o cause_n the_o name_n of_o a_o bishop_n be_v peculiar_o give_v to_o such_o chief_a governor_n of_o church_n etc._n etc._n furthermore_o i_o have_v declare_v that_o it_o engender_v schism_n faction_n &_o contention_n in_o the_o church_n and_o bring_v in_o a_o mere_a confusion_n and_o be_v a_o branch_n of_o anabaptisme_n t._n c._n pag._n 99_o sect._n 6._o 7._o and_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d twenty_o &_o three_o page_n to_o that_o which_o m._n bucer_n say_v y_z t_z in_o the_o church_n there_o have_v be_v one_o which_o have_v be_v 〈◊〉_d over_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o minister_n if_o he_o mean_v one_o chief_a in_o every_o particular_a church_n 〈◊〉_d one_o chief_a over_o the_o minister_n of_o diverse_a church_n meet_v at_o one_o synod_n and_o 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o 〈◊〉_d and_o for_o such_o respect_n as_o i_o have_v before_o show_v than_o i_o be_o of_o that_o mind_n which_o he_o be_v and_o if_o he_o mean_v any_o other_o chief_a or_o after_o any_o other_o sort_n i_o deny_v that_o any_o such_o 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then_o come_v it_o neither_o from_o the_o papist_n nor_o yet_o from_o the_o gentile_n but_o whensoever_o this_o begin_v or_o from_o who_o soever_o it_o be_v take_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n have_v always_o be_v think_v necessary_a in_o the_o church_n by_o all_o such_o as_o have_v not_o divide_v themselves_o by_o any_o schism_n or_o heresy_n from_o the_o same_o chap._n 5._o the._n 3._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n 4._o now_o i_o return_v to_o the_o example_n of_o sephora_n and_o say_v that_o the_o unlawfulnesse_n of_o that_o fact_n do_v appear_v sufficient_o in_o that_o she_o do_v it_o himself_o it_o mose_n by_o reason_n of_o sickness_n be_v not_o able_a to_o do_v it_o himself_o before_o her_o husband_n moses_n which_o be_v a_o prophet_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o 1_o and_o this_o be_v contrary_a to_o that_o he_o have_v pag._n 17_o sect._n 1_o to_o who_o that_o office_n of_o circumcision_n do_v appertain_v so_o that_o unless_o m._n doctor_n will_v have_v midwife_n 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ordinary_o even_o so_o baptism_n be_v true_a baptism_n though_o it_o be_v sometime_o minister_v by_o such_o as_o be_v not_o ordinary_a minister_n the_o event_n do_v oftentimes_o declare_v the_o thing_n exitus_fw-la acta_fw-la probat_fw-la though_o not_o necessary_o but_o this_o be_v certain_a that_o these_o evente_n be_v better_a reason_n to_o justify_v the_o fact_n than_o you_o can_v she_o we_o any_o out_o of_o that_o place_n to_o the_o contrary_n chap._n 5._o the._n 4._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 113._o sect._n ult._n &_o pag._n 114._o sect._n 1_o an_o other_o reason_n he_o have_v which_o be_v that_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o the_o man_n whether_o he_o be_v minister_v or_o no_o minister_n good_a or_o evil_n in_o deed_n upon_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v good_a or_o a_o evil_a minister_n it_o depend_v not_o but_o on_o this_o point_n whether_o he_o be_v a_o minister_n or_o no_o depend_v not_o only_o the_o dignity_n but_o also_o proof_n 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man_n may_v not_o preach_v the_o word_n upon_o occasion_n and_o so_o consequent_o baptise_v chap._n 5._o the._n 7._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 114._o sect._n 1_o i_o know_v there_o be_v diverse_a difficulty_n diverse_a the_o more_o to_o blame_v you_o be_v without_o proo_o to_o enter_v into_o such_o difficulty_n difficulty_n in_o this_o question_n and_o therefore_o i_o be_v sooth_n to_o enter_v into_o it_o but_o that_o the_o answerer_n set_v down_o so_o confident_o that_o it_o make_v no_o matter_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o baptism_n whether_o he_o be_v minister_v or_o no_o minister_n and_o so_o whether_o one_o have_v a_o calling_n or_o no_o calling_n wherein_o notwithstanding_o he_o do_v not_o only_o by_o his_o often_o handle_v of_o one_o thing_n confound_v his_o reader_n but_o himself_o also_o and_o forget_v that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o other_o question_n than_o which_o be_v propound_v for_o although_o it_o shall_v be_v graunce_v he_o that_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o depend_v upon_o 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that_o we_o be_v call_v by_o the_o example_n of_o our_o sa_fw-fr ionce_n christ_n to_o use_v the_o supper_n usual_a and_o common_a bread_n for_o what_o time_n our_o savioure_n christ_n celebrate_v his_o supper_n there_o be_v no_o other_o bread_n to_o be_v get_v but_o unleavened_a bread_n there_o be_v astraight_o charge_v give_v by_o the_o law_n that_o there_o shall_v be_v then_o not_o leaven_a bread_n and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o that_o if_o there_o have_v in_o then_o when_o he_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n as_o at_o other_o time_n nothing_o but_o leaven_a bread_n he_o will_v not_o have_v cause_v unleavened_a bread_n to_o have_v be_v make_v for_o that_o purpose_n of_o celebrate_v his_o supper_n io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v not_o usual_a bread_n but_o proper_o appoint_v for_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o passover_n bread_n christ_n use_v unleven_v bread_n and_o then_o to_o be_v use_v and_o not_o otherwise_o usual_o and_o common_o for_o their_o usual_a and_o common_a bread_n be_v leaven_a wherefore_o this_o make_v against_o you_o and_o if_o you_o will_v have_v the_o commandment_n that_o appertethe_v to_o the_o eat_n of_o the_o passover_n perpetual_a 2_o pa._n 130._o sect._n 2_o and_o to_o be_v refer_v to_o the_o celebrate_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o by_o that_o precept_n 2._o chro._n 35._o before_o allege_v it_o seem_v you_o will_v then_o must_v we_o make_v it_o a_o matter_n of_o necessity_n to_o have_v unleavened_a bread_n but_o as_o that_o be_v 〈◊〉_d so_o be_v this_o also_o for_o the_o kind_n of_o bread_n be_v indifferent_a although_o as_o m._n bucer_n say_v it_o come_v near_a to_o the_o institution_n indifferent_a the_o kind_n of_o bread_n of_o itself_o indifferent_a of_o christ_n to_o use_v unle_fw-mi vened_a bread_n b_o cause_n he_o do_v celebrate_v his_o supper_n with_o it_o if_o there_o be_v not_o other_o circumstance_n and_o reason_n to_o move_v the_o church_n sometime_o to_o use_v the_o contrary_n chap._n 1._o the._n 8._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 131._o sect._n but_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a oversight_n of_o m._n doctor_n both_o 〈◊〉_d this_o section_n and_o that_o which_o go_v 〈◊〉_d fore_n that_o he_o have_v not_o learned_a to_o make_v a_o difference_n between_o that_o which_o be_v not_o ncere_o do_v &_o that_o which_o be_v not_o at_o all_o do_v for_o in_o the_o former_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d upon_o the_o admonition_n because_o they_o conclude_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o there_o be_v no_o examination_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d and_o sincere_o minister_v for_o say_v he_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o communicantes_fw-la be_v not_o of_o the_o jubstaunce_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o in_o this_o section_n he_o say_v that_o for_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v not_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o sacrament_n whether_o there_o be_v leaven_a or_o unleavened_a bread_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o sufficient_o prove_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o sincere_o minister_v but_o he_o ought_v to_o have_v 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the_o substance_n shall_v be_v want_v but_o of_o this_o distinction_n i_o have_v speak_v in_o another_o place_n whereinto_o although_o m._n doctor_n fall_v in_o the_o next_o section_n and_o in_o other_o place_n yet_o this_o shall_v be_v a_o answer_n for_o all_o io._n whitgifte_n it_o be_v as_o gross_o reply_v unto_o but_o my_o belief_n be_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v as_o pure_o and_o sincere_o minister_v with_o the_o one_o as_o it_o be_v with_o the_o other_o for_o not_o every_o fond_a superstitious_a or_o vain_a opinion_n of_o every_o private_a person_n in_o this_o or_o that_o ceremony_n â—erogateth_v any_o thing_n from_o the_o pure_a and_o sincere_a administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n except_o it_o can_v be_v show_v that_o the_o thing_n use_v be_v wicked_a unlawful_a or_o superstitious_a of_o themselves_o wherefore_o this_o be_v a_o gross_a quarrel_n of_o you_o it_o be_v no_o oversighte_n of_o i_o for_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v of_o the_o right_n and_o sincere_a 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the_o most_o part_n you_o go_v beyond_o your_o commission_n and_o make_v yourselves_o judge_n of_o other_o man_n conscience_n contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n of_o christ._n mat._n 7._o luke_n 6._o and_o of_o paul_n rom._n 2._o and._n 14._o 1._o cor._n 4._o and_o of_o james._n 4._o t._n c._n pag._n 132._o sect._n 3_o when_o as_o many_o receyve_v they_o know_v not_o what_o some_o other_o without_o any_o examination_n either_o of_o then selue_o or_o by_o other_o how_o they_o come_v with_o what_o faith_n in_o christ_n with_o what_o love_n towards_o their_o brethren_n i_o see_v not_o against_o what_o rule_n of_o our_o faviour_n christ_n it_o be_v or_o what_o rash_a judgement_n to_o say_v that_o they_o come_v rather_o of_o custom_n than_o of_o conscience_n when_o neither_o they_o speak_v general_o of_o all_o nor_o singular_o of_o any_o one_o particular_a person_n io._n whitgifte_n general_o to_o charge_v the_o whole_a church_n with_o that_o which_o be_v but_o the_o fault_n of_o some_o and_o 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city_n and_o although_o in_o a_o city_n yet_o not_o in_o a_o realm_n io._n whitgifte_n if_o you_o will_v so_o divide_v these_o several_a city_n and_o church_n in_o one_o kingdom_n that_o they_o be_v not_o under_o one_o governoure_n rule_v by_o the_o same_o law_n member_n of_o one_o kingdom_n but_o every_o one_o of_o they_o as_o it_o be_v a_o common_a wealth_n within_o itself_o as_o it_o be_v in_o 〈◊〉_d scon_n spoil_v 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d several_a church_n within_o one_o kingdom_n in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n than_o it_o be_v true_a that_o you_o say_v and_o in_o this_o case_n be_v the_o primitive_a church_n and_o so_o be_v the_o church_n in_o france_n but_o when_o as_o all_o the_o town_n and_o church_n in_o one_o kingdom_n be_v subject_a as_o well_o in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a to_o one_o prince_n rule_v by_o the_o same_o law_n etc._n etc._n then_o can_v you_o not_o establish_v this_o your_o signiory_n without_o great_a confusion_n and_o untollerable_a injury_n to_o the_o minister_n of_o god_n i_o mean_v the_o christian_a magistrate_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o master_n of_o the_o household_n over_o his_o family_n derogate_v nothing_o from_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o prince_n but_o do_v confirm_v and_o establish_v it_o rather_o but_o the_o authority_n of_o your_o senior_n in_o every_o congregation_n spoil_v the_o prince_n of_o his_o jurisdiction_n and_o make_v he_o subject_a where_o he_o ought_v to_o be_v ruler_n and_o therefore_o your_o reason_n be_v not_o like_a chap._n 2._o the._n 13._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 143._o sect._n 3_o to_o be_v short_a say_v he_o when_o he_o can_v say_v no_o more_o it_o can_v be_v govern_v when_o it_o be_v full_a of_o hypocrite_n papist_n atheist_n and_o other_o wicked_a person_n as_o in_o the_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o there_o be_v few_o or_o none_o such_o i_o have_v show_v before_o how_o great_a want_n of_o knowledge_n it_o bewray_v to_o say_v that_o papist_n and_o atheist_n be_v of_o the_o 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free_a from_o that_o crime_n they_o rather_o help_v the_o bishop_n correct_v than_o the_o wicked_a person_n resist_v but_o the_o discrete_a reader_n may_v soon_o understande_v how_o far_o saint_n augustine_n be_v in_o this_o place_n from_o confirm_v your_o assertion_n s._n augustine_n write_v seven_o book_n de_fw-fr baptism_n contra_fw-la donatistas_n and_o will_v you_o not_o vouchsafe_v to_o name_v one_o of_o they_o unto_o i_o nor_o yet_o to_o recite_v his_o word_n that_o i_o may_v know_v whereupon_o you_o ground_n this_o popular_a kind_n of_o government_n false_o ascribe_v unto_o he_o it_o may_v be_v that_o augustine_n in_o your_o understanding_n attribute_v more_o to_o the_o people_n than_o he_o do_v in_o deed_n and_o it_o be_v not_o unlyke_a but_o that_o lack_n of_o diligent_a read_n have_v drive_v you_o into_o this_o judgement_n of_o he_o but_o i_o will_v give_v you_o a_o medicine_n people_n how_o augustine_n be_v to_o be_v understode_v in_o ascribe_v bind_v and_z l_o sing_v to_o the_o people_n for_o this_o disease_n even_o out_o of_o these_o book_n that_o you_o name_n in_o the_o sixth_o book_n and_o four_o chapter_n he_o seem_v to_o give_v authority_n to_o all_o christian_a people_n to_o remit_v and_o to_o retain_v sin_n and_o these_o word_n of_o chryst_n si_fw-la cvi_fw-la dimiseritis_fw-la peccata_fw-la dimittuntur_fw-la ei_fw-la etc._n etc._n to_o who_o soever_o you_o forgive_v sin_n they_o be_v forgive_v unto_o he_o etc._n etc._n to_o be_v speak_v to_o all_o christian_n but_o he_o open_v his_o own_o meaning_n and_o teach_v you_o how_o to_o understande_v all_o such_o like_a kind_n of_o speech_n for_o thus_o he_o say_v in_o the_o same_o book_n and_o chapter_n when_o sin_n be_v remit_v unto_o he_o that_o be_v true_o convert_v unto_o god_n 4._o august_n lib._n 6._o contra_fw-la donatist_n cap._n 4._o they_o be_v remit_v by_o those_o to_o who_o he_o be_v join_v by_o his_o true_a conversion_n for_o the_o same_o holy_a spirit_n do_v forgive_v they_o which_o be_v 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grief_n and_o dismay_n of_o all_o those_o that_o profess_v christian_a religion_n and_o labour_n to_o atteyne_v christian_a reformation_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 146._o 147._o 148._o you_o complain_v much_o of_o unbrother_o and_o uncharitable_a entreat_v cause_n complain_v of_o persecution_n without_o cause_n of_o you_o of_o remove_v you_o from_o your_o office_n and_o place_n sure_o in_o this_o point_n i_o must_v compare_v you_o to_o certain_a heretic_n that_o be_v in_o augustine_n time_n who_o most_o bitter_o by_o sundry_a mean_n afflict_v and_o molest_v the_o true_a minister_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o for_o all_o that_o cry_v out_o that_o they_o be_v extreme_o deal_v with_o and_o cruel_o persecute_v by_o they_o or_o else_o unto_o a_o shrewd_a and_o ungracious_a wife_n which_o beat_v her_o husband_n by_o her_o clamorous_a complaint_n make_v her_o neighbour_n tongue_n persecution_n of_o the_o tongue_n believe_v that_o her_o husband_n beat_v she_o or_o to_o he_o that_o 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disturber_n of_o the_o common_a peace_n and_o quietness_n of_o the_o church_n and_o state_n there_o be_v no_o reform_a church_n that_o i_o can_v hear_v ceremony_n every_o church_n have_v a_o determinate_a order_n of_o ceremony_n tell_v of_o but_o it_o have_v a_o certain_a prescript_n and_o determinate_a order_n aswell_o touch_v ceremony_n and_o discipline_n as_o doctrine_n to_o the_o which_o all_o those_o be_v constrain_v to_o give_v their_o consent_n that_o will_v live_v under_o the_o protection_n of_o it_o and_o why_o then_o may_v not_o this_o church_n of_o england_n have_v so_o in_o like_a manner_n be_v it_o meet_v that_o every_o man_n shall_v have_v his_o own_o fancy_n or_o live_v as_o he_o list_v true_o i_o know_v not_o whereunto_o these_o your_o do_n can_v tend_v but_o either_o to_o anabaptisme_n or_o to_o mere_a confusion_n but_o now_o to_o the_o reason_n that_o move_v you_o not_o to_o subscribe_v to_o those_o article_n minister_v unto_o you_o by_o her_o majesty_n high_a commissioner_n t._n c._n pag._n 156._o sect._n 2._o say_fw-la etiam_fw-la quodam_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la facetus_fw-la esse_fw-la voluisti_fw-la deus_fw-la bene_fw-la quam_fw-la te_fw-la illud_fw-la non_fw-la decet_fw-la here_o m._n divinity_n pleasant_a divinity_n doctor_n be_v dispose_v to_o make_v himself_o and_o his_o reader_n merry_a but_o it_o be_v with_o the_o bagpipe_n or_o country_n mirth_n not_o with_o the_o harp_n or_o lute_n which_o the_o learned_a be_v wont_a to_o handle_v for_o he_o have_v pack_v by_o together_o the_o old_a tale_n of_o the_o curse_a wife_n and_o of_o the_o thief_n that_o take_v away_o the_o priest_n purse_n very_o familiar_a and_o homely_a gear_n it_o may_v peradventure_o make_v m._n doctor_n hop_n about_o the_o house_n but_o the_o learned_a and_o the_o wise_n can_v not_o dance_v by_o this_o instrument_n it_o please_v m._n doctor_n to_o compare_v those_o which_o be_v put_v out_o of_o their_o live_n without_o just_a cause_n to_o heretic_n curse_a wyve_n and_o to_o thief_n but_o all_o man_n do_v understande_v how_o right_o what_o his_o trouble_n be_v within_o and_o in_o his_o conscience_n the_o lord_n god_n and_o he_o know_v best_o but_o as_o for_o the_o outward_a persecution_n which_o he_o suffer_v it_o be_v not_o such_o as_o he_o need_v thus_o to_o stoop_v and_o to_o groan_v and_o to_o blow_v underneath_o it_o as_o though_o he_o have_v some_o great_a burden_n upon_o his_o shoulder_n and_o if_o he_o complain_v of_o the_o persecution_n of_o the_o tongue_n to_o let_v pass_v his_o immoderate_a heat_n of_o speech_n which_o he_o use_v with_o those_o that_o he_o have_v to_o do_v withal_o the_o tongue_n which_o be_v more_o intemperate_a than_o he_o be_v in_o all_o his_o book_n shall_v hardly_o be_v find_v io._n whitgifte_n and_o i_o thank_v god_n i_o can_v be_v merry_a with_o the_o bagpype_n i_o be_o neither_o ashamed_a of_o the_o instrument_n nor_o of_o the_o country_n but_o what_o divinity_n call_v you_o this_o alack_o poor_a spite_n at_o 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a_o priest_n to_o be_v slacken_v because_o we_o be_v revile_v and_o evil_o speak_v of_o etc._n etc._n and_o again_o the_o opprobrious_a speech_n of_o the_o wicked_a ought_v not_o to_o move_v we_o so_o that_o we_o decline_v from_o the_o right_a way_n and_o the_o sure_a rule_n see_v that_o the_o apostle_n instruct_v we_o say_v if_o i_o â–ª_o shall_v please_v man_n i_o be_v not_o the_o servant_n of_o christ._n if_o the_o heat_n of_o my_o tongue_n be_v immoderate_a what_o shall_v be_v say_v of_o you_o but_o this_o kind_n of_o deal_n be_v nothing_o meet_v for_o us._n wherefore_o if_o you_o continue_v in_o this_o vain_a you_o shall_v have_v the_o best_a game_n for_o i_o t._n c._n pag._n 156._o sect._n 2._o and_o although_o it_o be_v unreasonable_a enough_o that_o he_o shall_v not_o give_v man_n leave_v to_o complain_v of_o their_o trouble_n
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2._o 3._o you_o say_v all_o these_o come_v from_o the_o pope_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o material_a from_o whence_o they_o come_v so_o they_o be_v good_a profitable_a &_o necessary_a for_o the_o mainteyn_v of_o religion_n learning_n wise_a &_o learned_a man_n but_o i_o pray_v you_o from_o what_o pope_n come_v they_o or_o in_o what_o time_n do_v the_o pope_n invent_v they_o i_o tell_v you_o before_o that_o such_o place_n and_o college_n be_v in_o augustine_n augustine_n deane_n allow_v by_o s._n augustine_n time_n &_o that_o he_o both_o have_v the_o name_n of_o m._n deane_n and_o allow_v of_o his_o office_n if_o you_o have_v read_v any_o ancient_a learned_a author_n as_o your_o writing_n declare_v you_o have_v not_o then_o shall_v you_o find_v that_o collegiate_n church_n be_v of_o great_a antiquity_n even_o since_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 235._o but_o what_o can_v you_o speak_v against_o cathedral_n church_n which_o you_o may_v not_o as_o well_o speak_v against_o the_o 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than_o we_o they_o see_v in_o no_o respect_n we_o be_v inferior_a to_o they_o well_o to_o conclude_v your_o word_n be_v but_o vain_a and_o your_o proof_n none_o at_o all_o and_o therefore_o i_o doubt_v not_o but_o cathedral_n church_n shall_v be_v able_a to_o withstand_v both_o your_o opprobrious_a speech_n &_o the_o greediness_n of_o all_o their_o adversary_n so_o long_o as_o it_o shall_v please_v god_n to_o bless_v this_o land_n with_o so_o virtuous_a &_o learned_a a_o queen_n &_o so_o wise_a and_o discrete_a counselor_n t._n c._n pag._n 164._o sect._n 2._o and_o where_o he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o material_a although_o these_o dean_n uycedeane_n canon_n petycanon_n prebendary_n etc._n etc._n come_v from_o y_fw-fr e_fw-la pope_n it_o be_v as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v that_o it_o skill_v not_o although_o they_o come_v out_o of_o y_fw-fr e_o bottomless_a pit_n for_o whatsoever_o come_v from_o the_o pope_n which_o be_v antichrist_n come_v first_o from_o the_o devil_n and_o where_o he_o 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confusion_n wherefore_o as_o the_o use_n of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o hse_fw-mi of_o cathedral_n church_n as_o necessary_a now_o as_o afore_o 〈◊〉_d they_o then_o for_o those_o time_n &_o state_n be_v good_a and_o godly_a so_o be_v the_o use_n of_o they_o now_o in_o this_o age_n and_o state_n no_o less_o convenient_a godly_a and_o necessary_a which_o you_o nor_o all_o your_o fautor_n shall_v ever_o be_v able_a to_o disprove_v the._n 5._o division_n t._n c._n pag._n 164._o in_o the_o end_n afterward_o the_o honour_n which_o the_o small_a church_n give_v unto_o they_o in_o ask_v they_o council_n ▪_o they_o take_v unto_o themselves_o and_o that_o which_o they_o have_v by_o the_o courtesy_n and_o good_a will_n procede_v of_o a_o reverend_a estimation_n of_o they_o they_o do_v not_o only_o take_v unto_o they_o of_o right_a but_o also_o dispossess_v they_o of_o all_o authority_n of_o hear_v and_o determine_v any_o matter_n at_o all_o and_o in_o the_o end_n they_o come_v to_o this_o which_o they_o be_v 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ministration_n and_o thereby_o help_v somewhat_o in_o the_o way_n of_o comeliness_n and_o order_n to_o the_o increase_n of_o faith_n what_o i_o pray_v you_o can_v be_v bring_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n why_o that_o church_n be_v not_o leave_v to_o her_o own_o judgement_n in_o this_o matter_n neither_o therefore_o to_o be_v contemn_v or_o to_o be_v call_v into_o question_n for_o her_o judgement_n sake_n that_o church_n very_o will_v keep_v in_o these_o thing_n a_o mean_a agreeable_a to_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n and_o will_v diligent_o attend_v that_o no_o abuse_n creep_v into_o it_o hitherto_o m._n bucer_n to_o the_o like_a effect_n also_o write_v m._n martyr_n in_o the_o epistle_n before_o name_v chap._n 7._o the._n 5._o division_n answer_v to_o the_o admonition_n fol._n 239._o sect._n 1_o furthermore_o that_o they_o do_v edify_v it_o be_v manifest_a first_o because_o they_o cause_n the_o apparel_n do_v tend_v to_o edify_v for_o three_o cause_n be_v by_o a_o lawful_a 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as_o have_v wear_v this_o apparel_n and_o do_v wear_v it_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n have_v great_o edifyed_a and_o do_v daily_o t._n c._n page_n 58._o sect._n 1_o the_o second_o reason_n be_v that_o they_o that_o wear_v this_o apparel_n have_v edifyed_a and_o do_v edify_v which_o be_v as_o if_o a_o man_n will_v say_v the_o midwife_n which_o lie_v unto_o pharaoh_n do_v much_o good_a among_o the_o israelit_n ergo_fw-la their_o lie_v do_v much_o good_a if_o he_o will_v say_v the_o comparison_n be_v not_o like_a because_o the_o one_o be_v not_o sin_n in_o his_o own_o nature_n whereas_o the_o other_o be_v sin_n then_o take_v this_o one_o that_o stammer_v and_o stut_v in_o his_o tongue_n edify_v the_o people_n therefore_o stammer_n and_o stut_v be_v good_a to_o edify_v for_o what_o if_o the_o lord_n give_v his_o blessing_n unto_o his_o word_n and_o to_o other_o good_a gift_n which_o he_o have_v that_o preach_v and_o wear_v a_o surplis_n etc._n etc._n be_v it_o to_o be_v 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io._n whitgifte_n indeed_o if_o this_o apparel_n be_v of_o that_o nature_n that_o a_o lie_n be_v your_o similitude_n of_o the_o midwife_n have_v some_o show_n in_o it_o and_o yet_o must_v you_o of_o necessity_n confess_v that_o their_o lie_v to_o pharaoh_n do_v much_o good_a per_fw-la accidens_fw-la for_o otherwise_o the_o man_n child_n of_o the_o israelite_n and_o even_o moses_n himself_o have_v be_v murder_v and_o you_o be_v not_o ignorant_a that_o diverse_a writer_n in_o this_o respect_n excuse_v that_o do_v of_o they_o you_o know_v likewise_o what_o the_o opinion_n of_o some_o be_v touch_v that_o kind_n of_o lie_n that_o be_v call_v officiosum_fw-la mendacium_fw-la but_o for_o my_o part_n i_o be_o in_o that_o point_n of_o sainte_n augustine_n judgement_n but_o your_o similitude_n be_v not_o like_a and_o if_o it_o be_v yet_o make_v it_o against_o you_o for_o their_o lie_v do_v good_a as_o i_o have_v say_v e_o before_o yo_n r_o other_o similitude_n of_o stammer_n &_o stut_v be_v 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