argue thus That which was found in general use when Magna Charta was first made and was confirm'd by Magna Charta and is not made void by Statute stands confirm'd both by Common and Statute-Law for the great Charter is both But the Spiritual Courts were found in general use when Magna Charta was first made and were confirmed among the liberties of the Church in their Jurisdiction as my Lord Coke assures us by Magna Charta and are not made void by Statute therefore our Spiritual Courts stand confirm'd both by Common and Statute-Law in the great Charter of England as more at large appears in the Doctors Leges Angliae hadst thou had patience to understand it Object Thou say'st Phil. the Doctor is an old Spectacle-dreamer of idle dreams I say Phil. thou art a better Seer and seest Visions and Apparitions both of things that are and things that are not and among the rest thou seest the Charter of England with its pendent Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction torn all in pieces by a thing of nothing and thus it works pag. 26. Many things say'st thou that were before the rights of Holy Church namely Peter-pence First-fruits to the Pope c. are now taken away by Statute and are not continued by Magna Charta Even just so the Jurisdiction of our Courts which was once the right of the Church and confirm'd by Magna Charta and is not taken away but confirmed by a multitude of Statutes since is not continued by Magna Charta 4. Thus thou art a wonderful Conjurer the Apparition is gone whether thou wilt or not How our Courts are confirm'd in the Statutes the Doctor shew'd thee abundantly in his Book but I find thou hast no stomach to encounter any longer with Leges Angliae or to smell to the Statutes SECT III. More Causes to be tried in our Courts than Mr. Phil. allows Phil. GRant they have Authority 't is but in three or four things and such perhaps they have cognisance of at this day Pag. 34. Tim. Honest Phil. is at granting again when he can deny no longer Our Authority reacht but to three sorts of Causes in pag. 18. To three or four pag. 26. or at most but those ten things mentioned in 5 Eliz. 23. de Excom Capiend thou goest on apace Phil. do but add those fifteen Pag. 34. more which the Doctor enumerates out of Cawdries Case and deny thy self satisfaction if thou canst CHAP. XIII Of Canons their force and power of making them SECT I. Of the Old Canons Phil. THough they may have Authority to keep Courts and to try such Causes I cannot see how they can use that Authority or try such Causes seeing they have no Canons to act by 1. First for the old Canons they were all made void by Hen. 8. and to judge and determine was impossible because they had no Canons Decrees nor Laws Ecclesiastical to judge and determine of them pag. 20. 'T is evident all the old Canons were repealed in the Judgment of the House of Commons in the 37 of Hen. 8. pag. 20. Tim. Stout still Phil. first thou deniedst their power that would not do then thou would'st limit it in its Causes that failed thee and now thou would'st incapacitate them to act in those for want of Canons and here keep thy ground or thou art lost for ever But this must be well examined for it springs from depth of skill or height of confidence or extensive breadth of malice and ignorance none so bold as blind Bayard How Phil. ignorant of that plain Rule in the Common Law That the Law doth appoint every thing to be done by those unto whose office it properly appertaineth Dost thou not know that the Common Law requires and impowers the Spiritual Courts to give remedy in Cases belonging to them Coke Inst pag. 1. Dost thou not know that the Kings Prerogative is a principal part of the Common Law which also flourisheth in the Spiritual as well as the Temporal Courts Coke Cawdr Case and that Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction is part of the Royal Supremacy to which thou art sworn and that he that denieth it denieth the King to be a compleat Monarch and Head of the whole intire body of the Realm according to many Statutes in all Ages as well as the Common Law ibid. And darest thou yet affirm that the Kings Supremacy is crampt and can do nothing for the relief of his Subjects in any Spiritual Cause which cannot be tried in the Civil Courts because there are no Rules or Canons for such Courts of the King to proceed and determine by It is strange thou didst never heed that plain Statute of Hen. 8. it strikes thy notion dead It assures us that the body Spiritual having power when any Cause divine happens to come in question the English Church called the Spiritualty hath been reputed and also found of that sort for knowledge c. without any exterior person to declare and determine all such doubts and to administer all such offices as appertain to them Phil. When the Popes Supremacy was taken away vanish also did the Canons and Episcopal Laws pag. 14. Tim. prethee Phil. how did they vanish of themselves like thy airy fancies or as appendants with the removal of the Popes Supremacy If so tell me why did not all our other Laws vanish too seeing the Pope had so great a hand in them also as thou saidst before But especially why should there be a particular solemn Law made on purpose for the rejection of any of the old Canons And why were such Canons though old ones that were not found contrariant to the Kings Prerogative and the Laws why were such Canons kept in force by the Statute of Hen. 8. as thou confessest pag. 14. Phil. The House of Commons in 37 of Hen. 8. gave their Judgment that all the old Canons were abrogated Tim. What so soon forget thy self Certainly thou hadst said otherwise such as were not contrariant c. to remain in force pag. 14. But thou art ingenuous Phil. the Doctor helpt thee to the Objection and gave thee its answer with it and now thou usest the objection against him without the least notice of the answer or thanks to the observator He gave thee reason why the words of the latter Statute were to be restrained to such Canons as being contrary to the King or Law were abrogated by the former Statute and not to be extended to such as were not so and therefore were not abrogated But what a noise dost thou keep are not the Acts of Parliament the Canons of King James and the ancient practised Rules of Court agreeable to the Ancient Canon which are also allowed by the Common Law sufficient means of proceeding in and determining all Ecclesiastical Causes that are triable in our Courts Phil. thou would'st bite like a Badger but thou canst only shew thy Teeth thou hadst better keep them within thy lips lest one time or other they be
be not to swear against themselves Phil. Nor one word doth he write to vindicate their unjust and unconscionable Impositions and Extortions upon the Clergie in Procurations Synodals Institutions c. Tim. Now thou art in thy Element but thy memory is unfaithful Not one word Phil about Procurations and Synodals the main thing wherein the Arch-deacon is concern'd in the charge Indeed he saith nothing in defence of unjust and unconscionable impositions and extortions but he said enough to prove to any reasonable man the lawfulness of taking the usual Sum for Procurations and Synodals which have been ever paid so far as our Books can discover But this charge is at the end of thy Book and it seems thou hadst forgot what thou saidst at the beginning of it there thou saist that he produceth not one Reason or Argument except the Statute of Hen. 8. for Synodals and Proxies to be granted from dissolved Monasteries c. And Phil the Argument from Dissolved Monasteries to the ordinary Clergy is potent à fortiori the Reason in the Statute is the same for both the Bishop c. pays First-fruits and Tenths as well for his Procurations and Synodals received from the Clergy as from the dissolved Monasteries and the argument stronger because the Clergie are visited the Monasteries are not and you know Procurations are due ratione visitationis But Phil. I ought to have an account why thou saist the Doctor gives not one reason or argument for Procurations and Synodals besides the Statute thus thou leapest like a Squirril from one twigg to another till thou fallest to the ground first not one word next not one Reason except the Statute both alike honest and true doth not he tell thee plainly and in more words that Procurations and Synodals are due by ancient Composition upon a valuable Consideration and by undoubted long Possession and Custom which is Law in England Sit liber Judex Leg. An. p. 64. And in a word if any other fees are taken or exacted from the Clergy or others that are not warrantable by Law or Custom take thy remedy the Law is open CHAP. XV. CONCLUSION Phil. an Advocate for the Courts his Reasons on their behalf from the value of money abuses in civil Court Peace his Declaration Tim. WELL Phil. I find at last thou hast painted thy self too fierce for thy Nature I find some bias upon thy reason inclining thee well and it 's pity but ye should be friends for 1. Thou notest the value of money is so different from what it was in Hen. 8. 's time when a Harry groat would have bought as much Victuals as half a Crown now that they cannot afford to keep Clarks nor to write and to Register Wills at this day for the Legal Fees 2. Again thou observest and that in favour of Ecclesiastical Courts that other Courts are more abusive and excessive in fees I leave thee to make it good and 't was very kindly remarked on our side tho' severely enough against the Common-Law Courts according to thy manner of speaking thus Indeed the Extortions of the Spiritual Courts are inconsiderable in Comparison of those amongst the numerous Frie of Common-Lawyers Attornies Clarks Notaries Sollicitors Splitters of Causes c. whose numbers are numberless and so goes on with the Crie p. 30 31. 3. At length thou seem'st to have studied better politicks than thou hast lately practis'd for in the nature of a Conclusion thou saist Therefore men that trie will certainly find perhaps too late that seldom 〈◊〉 31. comes a better This is very friendly indeed Phil. a little more of this Nature might render thee worthy of an Advocates place in the Spiritual Courts and then thou might'st go snips too hadst thou writ Finis here But I find thou canst not end without one fling more at the Doctor Phil. Thou seest I can speak to thy sense and indeed I could say much more to please thee and the Doctor and the Bishops too had I encouragement as I think I deserve and this I had done before now if the Lady at the beginning of the Doctor 's Book had made me a Curtesie or thank't me for my pains upon Curse ye curse ye MEROZ but no such matter Tim. too much Ingratitude and envy raigns amongst a sort of unthinking Black-coats Tim. No such matter Phil. the Black-coats did think and thought that thy Text was well interpreted and justly turn'd against the Enemies of the Church of England but they thought also that thou playedst too wantonly with a serious subject in an angry Age and indeed thou actedst the part of a Mountebank rather than a grave Preacher Well but what 's this to the Doctor how shall he be satisfied Phil. He was severe with me and I was rude with him and there 's an end Tim. Rude Yea barbarous and prodigiously scurrilous and I should wonder if thou seest not a necessity of giving both thy self and the Doctor and the Church of England better satisfaction I have known many that when they have taken up thy Vindication and with a cast of their eye have perceived the mode of thy Scribble have with disdain and loathing cast it from them and to deal friendly with thee I think thou ought'st to do something to recover thy self with the world Phil. I am sorry to hear that prethee what would'st have me do Tim. Thou hast heard of an Engine call'd Pia fraus but Phil. if thou hast not the skill to joyn Piety and Craft together either of them well used may do thee a kindness My first advice and my best is this that thou would'st be meek and humble and give the world a Cast of thy Piety in an honest retractation and ingenuous peccavi But secondly if repentance be too hard a Task or thy Talent lie not that way the other part of my advice is to use this craft Send to thy Gazetteer he that Printed the Title of thy Vindication and desire him to publish this following Declaration Whereas there was lately Printed a very simple and malicious Pamphlet called a Vindication of Naked Truth the Second Part against the trivial Objections of one Fullwood under the pretended Name of Phil. Hickeringill that the Scandalous Pamphlet might go off the better These are to give Notice that the said Pamphlet is so idle and trivial and rudely Barbarous and so insolently treats an ancient Doctor in Divinity and the Laws of England and our Church-Government that the true Phil-Hickeringill is ashamed of it and doth hereby disown and disavow it as the off-spring of the windy vapour of some hot Spanish Genet or to speak more truly if not so properly some wild English Ass Given under my Hand Philautos or the true Phil-Hickeringill THE END A CATALOGUE of some Books lately Printed for Richard Royston THE Establish'd Church Or a Subversion of all the Romanists Pleas for the Popes Supremacy in England Together with a Vindication of the present Government of the Church of England as allow'd by the Laws of the Land against all Fanatical exceptions particularly of Mr. Hickeringill in his Scandalous Pamphlet stiled NAKED TRVTH the 2d Part. By Fran. Fullwood D. D. Arch-deacon of Totnes in Devon 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Or a Discourse of the Morality of the Sabbath being an Exposition of Exod. xx v. 8 9 10 11. with Prayers relating thereunto humbly offered to this present Age. By John Gregory Arch-deacon of Glocester The New Distemper Or the Dissenters Usual Pleas for Comprehension Toleration and the Renouncing the Covenant Consider'd and Discuss'd with some Reflections upon Mr. Baxter's and Mr. Alsop's late Pamphlets published in Answer to the Reverend Dean of S. Paul's Sermon concerning Separation The Lively Picture of Lewis du Moulin drawn by an incomparable Hand Together with his Last Words Being his Retractation of all the Personal Reflections he had made on the Divines of the Church of England in several Books of his Signed by Himself on the Fifth and the Seventeenth of October 1680.
it said Take thou Authority to preach the word of God or administer the Sacraments Here Phil. thy understanding fail'd thee the political power of the Keys do in a sence belong to our Kings but not the purely Spiritual power except mediately as at first was granted the King is a Priest in tanto not in Toto But if thou canst prove our Kings to be Priests in all respects Look to it Mr. Baxter you are undone for then we have a proper Spiritual head of the Church of England yea look to it Phil. for near thou hast undone thy self in thy state Religion For if the Head be properly a Priest what body can fit him acting as a Priest in making Canons and governing the Church but a body of Priests Is the Parliament with whom he maketh other Laws or the Judges Sheriffs Justices c. by whom he governs the Kingdom a fit body for a Priestly head Do not these act under him rather as a King and a Convocation of Priests and Spiritual Courts more congruously act under him as a Priest if he be in all points a Priest and have all the Spiritual power of the Keys both in making Canons i. e. Spiritual Laws and governing the Church by them Poor Ape why art thou venturing still At this so subtle game and play'st so ill SECT II. Another piece of his Logick against Chancellors c. SEcondly We have another such trial of thy honest Logick upon a part of his Proem which if thou hadst quite as thou say'st thou hadst almost forgotten little had been lost 'T is this the Doctor intimates that Chancellors Registers c. are Assistants by Law allowed to Bishops c. and that in 1 Cor. 12. 28. we read of helps in Government which he intimates is a general warrant to the Law of the Land for such allowance Now reflect upon thy answer Phil. in stead of an answer thou very honestly imposest and intrudest another Conclusion Thou say'st he would prove these inferior Officers to be all Church-officers Jure Divino which was the very objection he went about to remove he doth deny them to be Church-officers strictly speaking neither doth he affirm them to be Jure Divino but he saith and thou say'st nothing to the contrary but a great truth that Esquire Dun is so too he saith that if making and keeping Acts of Court if managing and ordering Causes aright if serving Summons and executing Mandates of the Judge if these be reasonable things and expedient in government then the persons appointed by Law to perform these things are useful in government and agreeable to that general word and warrant in Scripture and upon the very same moral and prudential ground Deacons were at first appointed by the Apostles Acts 6. and many other things justly practised even in the first 300. years though not found in use in the Apostles time for the succeeding Ages of the Church inherited Reason and prudence whose proper use is to apply general Rules in Scripture with particular conveniency to times and places but Phil. if thou hast neither Reason nor Prudence how shall a man beat this into thy head Pag. 25. Thou say'st the Doctor has no guts in his brains one would think thou hadst been in Devonshire and that some body had taken out thy brains and put in White-pot So much upon the Proem too CHAP. VII A step towards the matter of the Doctors Book and the main Battle Phil. THese things Tim. are about the out-works only but do not I quit my self like a man when I come into the open field or at least like a crafty combatant Tim. At present I shall only remark to thy eternal honour that thou preparest thy self like a man of war indeed and viewest thy enemy in all the strength of his five Propositions in opposition to thine Pag. 5. against Ecclesiastical Government but durst thou have stood to any one of them thou hadst been a Man indeed But instead of that thou fliest from his and thy own Propositions too and leavest them to defend themselves And as a man knock'd o th' head and stun'd with the blows received before thou staggerest and ramblest from one impertinent story to another but always avoidest the main point Phil. Perhaps I had reason the point was sharp CHAP. VIII PROP. I. Our Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction was not derived from the Pope but from the Crown before the Reformation by Hen. 8. Tim. NOW for the Rancounter as thy War-like word is Is this Proposition true or no If it be not true why dost thou grant it at last If it be true why dost oppose it and shew all thy little Wit and impertinent story to obscure or weaken it thou art the Author of Naked Truth Phil. I will speak plain anon but I 'le have liberty to shew my Parts and Reading therefore quomodo probas Domine D. D. Pag. 5. Tim. The Doctor begins his proof by minding thee of the Ancient Constitution of the English Church and teaching thee if thou be not too old or too stubborn to learn That it was a known Law 25 Edw. 1. and 25 Edw. 3. long before Hen. 8. that the Church of England was founded in Episcopacy by our Kings c. and not in the Papacy To this great ground of truth how wild an Answer have we Pag. 5. Thou say'st with equal ignorance and scorn I always thought till now that our Church of England I know not for his Church of England was neither founded upon Episcopacy nor the Papacy but on Christ the Rock of Ages Would any man alive beside Phil. have had so many blunders in so few words 1. The Doctor saith as the Law saith that our Church was founded in Episcopacy thou provest by thy wise thought I always thought that it was not founded VPON Episcopacy thou art it seems a thinking black-coat however that may pass for thy first Blunder 2. And the second is like unto it the Doctor says our Church was founded in Episcopacy thou thinkst it was founded ON Christ as if the Church could not be founded in Episcopacy and ON Christ too thy second blunder 3. A Church may be founded on Christ his Person and doctrine principally as the chief Corner-stone and yet mediately secondarily and doctrinally too on his Apostles and their Successors the Bishops thou wast not aware of this Phil. thy third blunder 4. A Church may be said to be founded two ways in its constitution essentially considered and so ours was founded by Christ through the means of his Ministers first calling us secondly Organically by way of Donation Endowment Investiture and Secular advantages thus our Church was at first founded by our Kings as the Law saith this not heeded made thy fourth blunder 5. But the heaviest blunder is thy stumbling over the main observation for which the Doctor cited that Law Viz. that seeing our Church was founded by our Kings in Episcopacy therefore the Bishops power did not
originally nor in those times according to our own Laws depend upon the Pope but upon the Crown Q. E. D. which was then the sence of the Laws and all the States of the Realm long before Hen. 8. as also is noted and assented unto and insisted on at the beginning of his Reformation To assert the contrary is certainly to assert a Popish opinion and one of the greatest Arguments the Romanists use to Justifie the Papal Vsurpation in England take it as thou canst Phil. Leave off this club-way of arguing thou wilt ensnare thy self thy Talent Phil. lies another way thou hast no clear distinguishing Head thou art better at dividing and more skill'd in the methods of confounding than of founding the Church of England What didst mean Phil. by that non-sensical cant upon a place of Scripture I know it was not thy design to stumble upon the Rock of Ages and fall upon St. Peter's Phil. Enough of this Tim. fool thou know'st to escape the Law we may flie to the Gospel thou knowst Phil well enough he is for a Legal Scripture and Religion except when it is against him besides he finds canting on Scripture tho' never so impertinently sounds very lusciously in some Mens ears that I have a mind to gratifie SECT II. His other Arguments against our power before Hen. 8. Tim. THen let 's see how thou prosperest with thy other Arguments against this point 1. Thou saist the Pope was Head of our Church before Hen. 8. but 't is evident he was not so legally either by Law or Construction of Law or really so in the Constitution of the Church of England he was only so in pretence and by illegal Vsurpation he had never possession by Law but what he usurped was contrary to Law and the ancient Customes of the Land as my Lord Coke demonstrates tho' he is not to be taken notice of by Phil. H. yea his very possession in fact was never undisturbed for any considerable time together The Doctor informed thee better that it was the sence of the whole Kingdom that the Pope's Power and Jurisdiction here was usurped and illegal Contrary to God's Laws the Laws and Statutes of this Realm and in derogation of the Imperial Crown thereof and that it was timorously and ignorantly submitted unto before Hen. 8. vid. 28. H. 8. c. 16. 2. Thou saist boldly and ignorantly that H. 8. made Himself Head of the Church by Parliament that 's another Popish opinion the Law is open Phil. and Argument too depending on the former for both the Law and my Lord Coke affirm that the Statutes in that behalf were only declarative of the Ancient Fundamental Rights of the Imperial Crown of England which alone can Justifie the King's Title of the Head of the Church 3. Thou arguest subtilly that before H. 8. Appeals were frequently made to the Pope and that then our Courts were Rome's inferiour Courts What then why then upon the Popes ceasing to be Head the Courts were dissolved i. e. Just as our inferiour Courts were dissolved upon the dissolution of the High Commission Thou ought'st to know that our Laws never allowed or required Appeals to Rome and that our Courts continued in their proper Legal being under the Royal as well as and better than under the Popish head 4. At last thou questionest whether ever a Statute was made from the Conquest or rather from Hen. 3. to Hen. 8. but by the consent of the Popish Clergy i. e. the consent of the Pope their Head Art stark mad Phil were all our Laws Antichristian before Hen. 8. was no Law made by the Nation or Realm as such but only as Popish Are all our Ancient Statutes the Popes Laws Did the Pope consent to all the provisions and premunire's in the Laws made directly against himself Phil. If my Arguments fail take some Stories and my free Concessions and then I hope thou wilt be pleased 1. My Stories prove there was old Tugging betwixt our Kings and the Pope from time to time Tim. Well said at last Phil. and was not the Law on the Kings side Then the Pope had neither legal nor full nor quiet possession Thy cause languisheth in thy own hand and 't is time to yield to it Thy Concessions are most ingenuous instances of a good nature or a baffled cause Speak out man Phil. I grant that the Laws of the Popish party were contrary to the sence of King and Parliament Well said in part Phil. therefore the King and Pag. 13 Parliament were not altogether Popish But prethee what Laws could concern us contrary to the sence of King and Parliament who made those Laws for us in England Tim. But the matter is not clear yet Speak out man Phil. 'T is undoubtedly true that the Crown of this Realm is and has been before Hen. 8. Imperial that is de jure not de facto thanks to the wicked Usurper and his Legats it ought not to have been done it was commonly de facto done before Hen. 8. Tim. This is something more but not all Thou dost imply indeed by commonly that it was not always so done And if the Pope before Hen. 8. was a Vsurper he had not right here and the Jus the Law was against him For if he had had the Law on his side how had he been a Vsurper Speak a little plainer Phil. and all 's well so far Phil. I do ingenuously confess our Ancient Ecclesiastical Government and Laws depended upon the Crown and not upon the Pope by the Laws Pag. 2â— of England and in the Judgment of all the States of the Kingdom before Hen. 8. and so did also the Execution of those Laws by those Governors in the same publick Judgment These are the Doctors words and all this is true and the very Naked Truth in other words varied which saith That all Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction till Hen. 8. was derived from the Pope but my meaning was that it was not derived from the Pope before Hen. 8. thus thou seest I have no mind to quarrel Tim. 'T is well enough but why didst not say so much at first or excuse thy obscurity and distinguish sooner Yea why didst contend for so many pages against that which thou art compell'd to yield at last Art thou obstinate that thou must be press'd before thou wilt confess or hadst an Itch upon thee to vent thy stories as if the world had nothing to do but to hearken to thy impertinencies If storying were arguing thou art a brave fellow indeed but this way it seems thou art not formidable The Doctor set thee up for a Shrovetide-Cock as thy phrase is and thou hast cut thy own Comb. So much for the first Proposition CHAP. IX The Doctor 's Second PROPOSITION Hen. 8. did not make void the Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Neither was it void before it was restor'd by 1 Edw. 6. 2. Phil. I Hope I quit my self better here Tim. Much at one First thou