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An ansvver to a popish pamphlet called the touch-stone of the reformed gospell. made speciallie out of themselves. By William Guild, D.D. and preacher of Gods word.
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Guild, William, 1586-1657.
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Wing G2202; ESTC R221580
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the_o world_n can_v receive_v because_o they_o be_v not_o elect_a and_o who_o shall_v dwell_v in_o they_o and_o be_v in_o they_o as_o he_o be_v only_o in_o the_o elect_a likewise_o the_o three_o place_n be_v math._n 18._o 17._o and_o if_o he_o neglect_v to_o hear_v the_o church_n let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a &_o publican_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o this_o place_n speak_v only_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n which_o papist_n grant_v may_v err_v as_o also_o relate_v only_o to_o discipline_n and_o church_n censure_n &_o not_o to_o doctrine_n or_o determination_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n but_o of_o fact_n and_o scandal_n the_o four_o place_n be_v ephes_n 5._o 27._o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o he_o may_v present_v to_o himself_o a_o glorious_a church_n without_o spot_n or_o wrinkle_n whereunto_o i_o answer_v that_o their_o late_a estius_n out_o of_o augustin_n show_v that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v not_o of_o thâ_n church_n militant_a but_o triumphant_a and_o 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