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church_n	heathen_a	let_v	publican_n	2,742	5	10.9981	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A56283	A true and full account of a conference held about religion, between Dr. Tenison and A. Pulton, one of the masters in the Savoy	Pulton, A. (Andrew), 1654-1710.	1687 (1687)	Wing P4209; ESTC R7867	12,444	24

usual Bread But that Bread is Bread before the Words of the Sacraments but the Words of Consecration being pronounc'd of Bread it becomes the Flesh of Christ c. 17. Here the Dr. as tho' he had gain'd a great Victory calling for Pen and Ink made some Remarks upon the Authority Quoted and then urged A. P. to set his hand to it A. P. desired the Dr. to have a little patience and promised that when the Dr. should have heard his whole Evidence he would Sign it But the Dr. reply'd he would hear no more that A. P. was a Falcifier that he who would quote one false Text ought not to be credited in another A. P. answered It would be no easie matter to prove that the Work quoted was not of St. Ambrose But if the Dr. doubted thereof he was content to lay no stress upon that Authority and desired him to hear another of the same Author to the very same intent out of an unquestionable Work But he absolutely refused to hear any more and importuned A. P. by himself and some Women present to Subscribe so that A. P. for the space of three quarters of an hour could not obtain the favour of being heard in order to his further Evidence while the Dr. rambled through several impertinent Discourses and amongst other things falling upon Luther recounted I know not what Story of some Priest at Rome who pronouncing the words of Consecation was heard to say Bread thou art and Bread thou shalt be Wine thou art c. and offering at another long passage out of Luther's Books A. P. desired the Dr. not to trifle away the time with idle Stories saying That little credit was to be given to Luther who in his own Works had left written many Dialogues which he had with the Devil and acknowledges that he left off saying of Mass purely upon the Devils persuasion And then A. P. urged that it was not likely if Luther had been of a false Belief the Devil would be zealous to put him into a true One being the Father of Lyes 18. A. P. labour'd in vain to reduce the Dr. from his rambling Discourses and press'd that he might go on in citing his Authorities offering at least 20 times to read one out of Justinus in his Apology to Antoninus Pius which the Dr. being somewhat spent with perpetual talking was oblig'd to hear as follows That Food over which Thanks are given by Prayers in his own to wit Christ's words and whereby our Blood and Flesh are by a change nourished is the Flesh and Blood of the Incarnate JESUS To which the Dr. Answer'd That Text made nothing for Transubstantiation A. P. reply'd It did at least for the Real Presence and he would produce other places which also should prove Transubstantiation The Dr. said he believ'd the Real Presence that is reply'd A. P. you believe the Body and Blood of our Blessed Saviour to be truly and really in the Sacrament of the Altar To which the Dr. answered he would not declare what he held in that matter And thence forward would never be induced to hear a title more relating to a further proof of the matter in debate But press'd ever and anon A. P. to subscribe A. P. being in a little heat at so unreasonable proceedings struck the Table with his hand as on the like occasions he had done twice before saying the Dr. believ'd certainly he had a Fool to deal with the Dr. reply'd he would not come under his Ferula to which A. P. answered it was usual to him in Schools to knock the Pulpit though he had never given Ferula in his life Then he offer'd to read a Text of St. Irenaeus making for Transubstantiation But the Dr. said he had heard enough and the Mistress of the House offering A. P. the Dr's Paper press'd him to Sign it 19. Vpon this occasion A. P. instanced as follows Should I said he present my self at a publick Court of Justice and having 30 Witnesses to produce the first of which being heard and some exceptions taken though perhaps unreasonably at his Evidence Would not that be an unequitable Judge who on that occasion should refuse to hear any more and summing up that single Evidence should require it should be sign'd To which the Doctor answered that A. P. knew well enough simile's had little force to prove any thing A. P. reply'd The Dr. had us'd many much less pertiment altho' this was not so much a smile as his very Case The Holy Fathers being his Witnesses And presently after the Dr. giving a reason why he would hear no more made the following comparison very improperly Should one said he come to pay me 20 l. and the first half Crown which he told out prove naught I would suspect all the rest Whereupon Mr. M. told the Dr. He would make use of his own similitude and therefore ask'd him Whether if one coming to pay him such a sum and he disliking one of the half Crowns he would refuse to receive the Money though the Pay-master should offer another piece instead of that which he dislik'd 20. Here the Dr. forgetful that he had appeal'd to the Holy Fathers said He did not much value what they said and that many of them had fallen into several Errours in other matters and why not in this To which A. P. reply'd That altho' one or two might have err'd in their private judgements yet that in which all or at least much the greater part unanimously agreed had ever been esteem'd the Sentiment of the whole Church The Dr. having Scripture in his hand and A. P. having on some past occasion cited that of our Blessed Saviour He that hears not the Church let him be unto you as a Heathen and a Publican The Dr. ask'd A. P. What Verse that was A. P. answer'd That was not to the purpose if the Dr. allow'd it to be true Scripture and desir'd the Dr. to tell him where it was But he did not At last turning from place to place he found it and then endeavour'd to shew how that Text related to a private debate and had no relation to any matter of Faith Here A. P. complain'd again that all this was impertinent to the question in debate although he said It was usual on particular occasions to make a general Law. 21. Here the Gentleman mention'd above in the second place Desir'd he might say something relating to the said Text But A. P. desir'd the Dr. might have no occasion of complaining there were more than one to encounter with him Though on the Dr. 's side the School-master mention'd above was constantly throwing in some Quaerie or other either to divert A. P. or to entertain the Hearers But as A. P. took little notice of what he said there so he has not much concern'd himself to relate here what he there impertinently insinuated 22. Here the Company breaking into different Parties and A. P. seeing no satisfaction