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A43095 Killing is murder, and no murder, or, An exercitation concerning a scurrilous pamphlet of one William Allen, a Jesuitical impostor, intituled, Killing no murder wherein His Highness honor is vindicated and Allens impostors discovered : and wherein the true grounds of government are stated, and his fallacious principles detected and rejected : as also his calumnious scoffs are perstringed and cramb'd down his own throat / by Mich. Hawke, of the Middle-Temple, Gentl. Hawke, Michael. 1657 (1657) Wing H1171; ESTC R12455 71,020 66

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time corroborate a principality where the antient of dayes will change it And to the Example of Athaliah who reigned six years it may be answered that though traffick pleadings and all publick Acts of Justice were exercised by and under her for the same time yet wanted she the complete consent of the people all the people generally disaffecting and disliking her Government which was apparent by their publike rejoycing at her death Besides Jehoiada by the impulse of God as a publike Magistrate and Tutor of the Prince to whom by the decree of God the Kingdom of Judah did remain which was irrepealerable might lawfully Act what he did against Athaliah Got. de Jur. l. 1. c. 4. though her Raign had been of longer continuance as Grotius seemeth to intimate To the third question Whether the removing of a Tyrant is like to prove of advantage to the Commonwealth or not he can scarce perswade himself to say any thing because he thinks that needless and all one to enquire whether it is better the man dye or the impostume be launched or the Gangreen Limbe be cut off yet be there some saith he whose cowardice and avarice furnish them with some Arguments to the contrary and would feign make the world believe that to be base and degenerate is to be cautious and prudent and what indeed is a servile fear they basely call a Christian patience and that with continuance in slavery they have lost their courage and with their courage their Fortu●● And thus would he perswade his Auditors to precipitate themselves into mortal dangers upon the rumination of his precepts as Cleombrotus vainly did on Plato's without any prudential circumspection or caution But he might have Learned a more wary Lesson of his Master Mariana who though he Fathers his impious principles De regnis Inst J. 1. c. 6. yet adviseth he every man to be cautious how he enterpriseth such a dangerous attempt Artentè saith he cogit andum est we ought seriously to consider what moderation and reason is to be observed in expelling a Tyrannical Prince least one evil be heaped on another and one impiety avenged by another and the safest and expeditest way is if a publike assembly may be called to deliberate by common consent what is to be determined And especially the Prince is to be admonished to be recalled to health who if he obey and satisfy the Commonwealth I think it fitting to desist and not use bitter and sharp Remedies But his Master Mariana's provident Instructions are too dilatory for this Monsters heady Resolution who will rather hearken to the Counsel of his prime Apostle Machiavel That men deceive themselves saith he to mollify arrogancy with humility a Tyrant is never modest but when he is weak 't is in the Winter of his fortune when the Serpent bites not we must not therefore expect cure from our patience and suffer our selves to be cousened with hopes of amendement though our Saviours Counsel is that if our Brother trespasse against us Matt. 18.15 we should first tell him of his fault privately and if he hear us not to tell him of it before witnesses and if he refuse them to tell it to the Church but if he refuse the Church also let him be as an Heathen and Publicane These are the degrees of charity every Christian is to observe in admonishing his Brother before he exerciseth the severity and extremity of Justice because as our Saviour saith by that means we may win our Brother and he is little less then an Infidel Publicane that resuseth so to do Nay God himself never strikes but he denounceth his admonitions that they might repent as he did by Eliah to Ahab by Jado to Jeroboam by Jeremiah to Zedekiah and by Daniel to Nebuchadnezzar and in civil affaires admonition ought to precede Processe Non autem de necessitate sed de urbanitate honestate Tholos Synt. l. 32. c. 3. not for necessitie sake but for civility and honesty so as this Impostor seems in this suddain fit to be void of all Piety Civility and Honesty and like a Brain-sick Mountebanck will cut off the Limbe before it appeares to be a Gangrene or immedicable and lance the Impostume which with Soveraign Salves may be cured and Judge that a Gangrene and Impostume which is none Yet this Impostor saith Nemo unquam impertum flagitiis quaesitum bonis artibus exercuit never did any man Mannage the Government with Justice that got it by wicked meanes The longer a Tyrant lives the more the Tyrannical humor encreaseth in himself Tac. l. 1. Hist But this is part of Pisos speech against Othe who was a competitor with him for the Empire and therefore the lesse authentical And if Flagitiis is understood by force and might as this Impostor in this pamphlet seemes to take it then this position is not generally true for Julius Caesar who gained the Empire by force and is stiled by Victor Invasor was as he saith tam pacis bellique artibus clarus Vict. vita Caes imprimis clementia longe clarissimus most famous in Peace and Warre and especially in clemency most famous Ib. vita Aug. And though Augustus was Dominandi supra modum avidissimus and by might obtained the Empire yet for his candid Demeanor and civil Justice was he so beloved and honored after his decease by the people that they wished ut non nasceretur aut non moreretur that he had not been born or had not died besides Grotius saith Grot. l. 3. c. 14. Tyranni interdum libertatem reddiderunt Tyrants sometimes have restored Liberty Tacitus himself in the same sense Vitia erunt donec homines Hist l. 4. sed nec haec continua sed interventu meliorum pensantur there will be Vices as long as there be men but these are not continual but are recompensed by the intervening and supply of better things But what saith he would succeed if a Tyrant should be removed I will tell him that cura pejor sit morbo the cure may be more dangerous then the disease And as his Master Mariana saith one evil may be heaped on another and one Impiety avenged by another and all Historians will shew him the lamentable events of such preposierous and precipitated mutations which many times beget effusion of blood ruines and sacking of Cities and sometimes the destruction of Cities and Kingdoms But I will rather instance in some ancient Examples then Novel which as yet adhere in the minds and mouthes of men It is not unknown to those who are versed in Annals that of all the Grecians none were more renowned then the Spartans either for the glory of Military or severity of Civil discipline but they when they could not endure the Dominion of Agis because it seemed to be a Tyranny conspired against him and openly slew him But what were the Fruits of this unhappy Slaughter Cic. Tull. Offic.