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A20031 A true, modest, and iust defence of the petition for reformation, exhibited to the Kings most excellent Maiestie Containing an answere to the confutation published under the names of some of the Vniuersitie of Oxford. Together vvith a full declaration out of the Scriptures, and practise of the primitiue Church, of the severall points of the said petition. Sprint, John, d. 1623. Anatomy of the controversed ceremonies of the church of England. 1618 (1618) STC 6469; ESTC S119326 135,310 312

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cause_n misjudge_v for_o the_o person_n fault_n delictum_fw-la personae_fw-la 76._o reg._n juris_fw-la 37._o reg._n juris_fw-la 76._o non_fw-la debet_fw-la in_o detrimentum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la redundare_fw-la 1._o enormity_n against_o excommunication_n by_o lay_a person_n 1._o their_o first_o defence_n be_v that_o whatsoever_o the_o chancellor_n do_v on_o this_o case_n he_o do_v it_o in_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ordinary_a answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o the_o bishop_n himself_o the_o archdeacon_n or_o any_o other_o ordinary_a alone_o have_v any_o power_n to_o excommunicate_v we_o be_v sure_a that_o neither_o scripture_n or_o example_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n will_v bear_v they_o out_o in_o it_o our_o saviour_n rule_n be_v dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la tell_v it_o to_o the_o church_n after_o the_o contempt_n whereof_o the_o party_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v as_o a_o heathen_a &_o publican_n that_o be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_a but_o never_o be_v it_o yet_o hear_v that_o one_o man_n shall_v stand_v for_o the_o church_n that_o dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la in_o some_o man_n construction_n shall_v be_v dic_fw-la episcopo_fw-la dic_fw-la cancellario_fw-la dic_fw-la officiali_fw-la as_o the_o papist_n wrest_v this_o place_n dic_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la that_o be_v dic_fw-la papae_fw-la dic_fw-la pontifici_fw-la romano_n but_o of_o this_o matter_n more_o shall_v be_v say_v in_o the_o end_n of_o this_o treatise_n then_o if_o they_o have_v not_o this_o power_n in_o themselves_o they_o can_v transfer_v it_o to_o another_o as_o the_o law_n say_v nemo_fw-la potest_fw-la 79._o reg._n juris_fw-la 79._o plus_fw-la iuris_fw-la transfer_v in_fw-la alium_fw-la quam_fw-la sibi_fw-la competere_fw-la dignoscatur_fw-la no_o man_n can_v give_v more_o to_o a_o other_o than_o he_o have_v himself_o as_o the_o comparison_n be_v presumptuous_a to_o compare_v the_o bishop_n to_o the_o king_n the_o chancellor_n to_o the_o lord_n chancellor_n so_o the_o case_n be_v not_o alike_o for_o a_o civil_a power_n may_v be_v commit_v over_o to_o other_o but_o a_o spiritual_a power_n can_v be_v transfer_v but_o aught_o to_o be_v execute_v in_o every_o man_n person_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v he_o that_o have_v a_o office_n let_v he_o attend_v upon_o his_o office_n rom._n 12._o 7._o solomon_n spiritual_a cant._n 8._o 11._o 12._o no_o substitute_n in_o duty_n spiritual_a in_o the_o canticle_n show_v the_o difference_n of_o the_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a administration_n solomon_n give_v his_o vineyard_n to_o keeper_n but_o my_o vineyard_n say_v christ_n which_o be_v i_o be_v always_o before_o i_o as_o we_o mislike_v that_o christ_n shall_v have_v any_o vicar_n in_o earth_n so_o neither_o shall_v any_o of_o christ_n minister_n execute_v their_o charge_n by_o their_o vicar_n s._n peter_n 2._o 1._o pet._n 5._o 2._o say_v feed_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o flock_n which_o be_v in_o you_o that_o be_v always_o in_o your_o sight_n the_o canon_n law_n say_v non_fw-la potest_fw-la esse_fw-la 5._o decr._n greg._n lib._n 5._o tit_n 40_o c._n 5._o pastoris_fw-la excusatio_fw-la si_fw-la lupus_fw-la oves_fw-la comedit_fw-la &_o pastor_n nescit_fw-la it_o be_v no_o excuse_n of_o the_o shepherd_n if_o the_o wolf_n devour_v the_o sheep_n to_o say_v he_o know_v it_o not_o it_o be_v never_o well_o with_o the_o church_n since_o prelate_n take_v more_o upon_o they_o then_o in_o their_o own_o person_n they_o can_v discharge_v commit_v their_o spiritual_a affair_n to_o deputy_n and_o vicar_n of_o this_o abuse_n eckius_fw-la a_o man_n otherwise_o bad_a enough_o complain_v in_o the_o popish_a church_n nostrate_v praelatos_fw-la ordinem_fw-la apostolicum_fw-la invertere_fw-la etc._n etc._n our_o prelate_n invert_v the_o apostolic_a order_n who_o think_v spiritual_a thing_n too_o heavy_a for_o they_o to_o bear_v do_v use_v the_o help_n of_o suffragans_fw-la in_o their_o pontifical_n of_o official_o in_o their_o judicial_n of_o penitentiaries_n in_o 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and_o a_o divers_a profession_n to_o be_v in_o one_o office_n and_o by_o the_o same_o canon_n the_o bishop_n that_o shall_v make_v a_o lie_v man_n his_o vicar_n be_v hold_v to_o be_v contemptor_n canonum_fw-la a_o contemner_n of_o the_o canon_n but_o nothing_o be_v now_o more_o usual_a then_o for_o lay_v man_n civilian_n to_o be_v chancellor_n and_o vicar_n general_n to_o bishop_n the_o second_o defence_n the_o chancellor_n official_a commissary_n decree_v the_o party_n to_o be_v excommunicate_a a_o minister_n associate_v unto_o he_o by_o exprresse_n authority_n from_o the_o ordinary_a denounce_v the_o sentence_n of_o excommunication_n 22_o ans_fw-fr p._n 22_o answ_n 1._o this_o be_v but_o a_o new_a trick_n and_o frivolous_a device_n who_o know_v not_o the_o minister_n assistant_n to_o the_o chancellor_n who_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n of_o the_o mean_a and_o simple_a of_o the_o clergy_n be_v but_o a_o cipher_n he_o do_v nothing_o but_o by_o his_o master_n direction_n 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