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A19998 A treatise, intituled; nobody is my name, which beareth eueri-bodies blame wherein is largely laied forth the lawfull bounds of all buying and selling, according to the infallible like of the lawes of the Lord. Compiled dialoguevvise by Iohn Deacon. Minister. Deacon, John, 17th cent. 1587 (1587) STC 6437; ESTC S110928 77,403 192

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so be they were present before No-bodie This was purposely done to expresse the great admiration of Iohn Baptist in beholding the same And thus much also the discretiue autem or but importeth saying a Matth. 3. 7. 8. But when hee sawe many of the Pharisees and Saduces come to his baptisme he said vnto them Oh generation of vipers who hath fore-warned you to flee from the wrath to come As if with a wonderful admiration he had saide to himselfe and is it possible that these men among the rest of the people shold so suddenly repent from the bottome of their hearts Vppon consideration also wherof he crieth out vnto them saying Who hath fore-warned you to flee from the wrath to come whence springeth this so sudden an alteration of your mind with what an affection haue you heard my preching yea with what maner of spirite come you to this my Baptisiue if it be only in hypocrisie of hart I tell you in truth it will nothing auaile you but if it be with vnfained repentance then looke in any wise that you witnesse the same to the worlde by such fruits as are worthie the amendment of life Thus then you see the cause whie the euangelist so precisely expresseth the comming of the Pharises and Saduces to the baptisme of Iohn that also immediatly after the baptizing of the rest of the people Ingroser If he dealt as you say thus roundly with the Pharisees Saduces that also in the presence of all the people with what affection I pray you was he mooued so bitterly to inueigh against those men alone to spare the rest of the people Surelie the one of these two me thinke must necessarilie followe thereof namely that either the rest of the people were departed before or otherwise in speaking so plainely to the Pharises and Saduces alone the people still present that they onlie and not anie of the other people were guiltie of sinne No-bodie Neither of both For first that the people also were sinners aswell as the other it is very apparant by their comming to baptisme otherwise the same had beene needles vnto them For baptisme was a Sacrament of the washing away of their sins And secondlie that the people also were present at this the reprehension of the Pharisees and Saduces it hath beene prooued before Nowe with what affection Iohn Baptist was mooued to speake especiallie to them in the presence of all the rest it is to be considered that this his publike proceeding against the Pharisees and Saduces was principaly done in regard of the whole church of God Who hearing on the one side the wickednesse of those whome they tooke for their guides so openlie reuealed and perceiuing againe on the other side that euen they also which a Math. 23. 27. outwardlie pretended a glittering shewe of godlinesse were inwardlie but rotten bones they might themselues be stricken with a greater terrour of the iudgements of God and therevpon being thus driuen to a deeper consideration of their cursed estate they woulde the more easily be wonne to an vnfained repentaunce of their former wickednesse Which generall commoditie the apostle also himselfe doeth will vs to wait for from such publike reprehensions saying a 1. Tim. 5. 20. Those that offende rebuke openlie that others also may feare Ingroser If the rest of the people as your selfe haue affirmed were sinners as wel as those Pharisees and Saduces of whome wee haue spoken what moued him then so bitterly to bende his force onelie against these and let the other escape This sauoreth very muche me thinke of a partiall minde No-bodie God forbid you should so much as imagine the holie-ghost to be partiall Neither do I say the other escaped scot-free although I affirme that he dealt more roundlie wyth these Pharisees and Saduces than wyth the rest of the people And yet if you list to read the third chapter of Luke you shal finde b Luc. 3. 7. 10 11 12 13 14 there the selfe-same reprehensions applyed to euery particular estate of men which Matthew here onely reporteth of the Pharises and Saduces Ingroser I perceiue maister parson you came of a woman you must haue your minde in this matter whosoeuer saieth nay But can you alleadge anie other examples beside to confirme this point For one swallow we commonlie saie maketh no summer No-bodie Although I cannot denie but that I haue imperfections remaining wythin me yet would I not haue you to thinke a Rom. 6. 12 they raigne ouer me or that I am not readie from time to time to yeelde to a more dexteritie Notwithstanding beeing fullie assured of the truth on my side I am b Eccles taught to striue for the same vnto death And whereas you doe further imagine that Iohn Baptist alone hath taken this course of reprehending particularly you are greatly deceiued For not onelie he with the rest of the Prophetes before him hath c 2. Sam. 12. 7. 1. Kin. 18. 17. 18 Ierem. 20. 3. 4. broken the yee to this enterprise d Matth. 23. 13 Mark 6. 18. Actes 7. 51. Acts 13. 10. Actes 23. 3. but our Sauiour Christ also himself saint Stephan saint Paule and all the other Apostles haue followed this trace as in sundry places of Scripture most plainely appeareth Pedler You conclude then that a preacher in his publike preaching maye vse particular reprehensions so ofte as time and occasion require No-bodie What else that so his agreement may be with the prophets apostles and with our sauior himselfe Alwayes yet prouided that the same a 2. Tim. 2. 15. be performed in truth with all sinceritie of heart and according to that inuiolable rule which is contained at large in the eighteenth of Matthew Eueri-bodie I pray you sir tell vs what rule that is No-bodie With all my heart our Sauior Christ purposing there to prescribe a perpetuall platforme of true discipline concerning the censuring of sinners sayeth on this sorte b Leuit. 19. 17. Eccles 19. 13. Matth. 18. 15. Luke 17. 3. Iames 5. 18. When thy brother doth trespasse against thee alone go and tell him his fault betweene him and thee alone if he heare thee thou hast won thy bother But if hee heare thee not take yet with thee one or two that c Deut. 19. 15. Iohn 8. 17. 1. Cor. 13. 1. 1. Tim. 5. 19. Hebr. 10. 28. by the mouth of one or two witnesses euery woorde may be confirmed If he will not vouchsafe to heare them then tell it vnto the church also let him bee vnto thee as an heathen man and a publican Ingroser Then I perceiue you would haue men first to be priuatelie admonished or euer such bitter and publike reprehensions be permitted to proceede foorth against them But why haue not your selfe obserued the same No-bodie Where and at what time I pray you haue I swarued from it Ingroser Euen in your Sermon to day for it was in Eueri-bodies